Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Side bar help! Pedro Miguel
I know!! I had not heard of it before! Thanks for the info! Susan > On May 2, 2019, at 3:14 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Wow, what a name! > > If no one can get it, you may need to email the archives and ask them if they > could so kindly tell you what is written in the left margin of that record. > That bend is difficult. > bpar.horta.i...@azores.gov.pt > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > >> On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 2:11 PM 'Susan Vargas Murphy' via Azores Genealogy >> wrote: >> Hi Everyone, >> >> I have been going over some research that i did long ago and wondered if the >> experts here could take a look at the side bar on this baptism record for >> Grinaldo on the right page middle record. I do not need help with reading >> the record itself.but the side bar, which is very faded. >> >> This is the thing.This family had a ton of children.14 at >> least.this Grinaldo is never heard from again...no marriage or >> death.. >> >> Then they had a Jose and I could never find his baptism record.Jose >> marries to Francisca Jacinta in Pedro Miguel, Faial.on 27 May 1759 >> He dies 26 Sept 1781 >> >> Looking at the side bar of Grinaldo's baptism, it looks like the name Joseph >> is there and maybe even a reference to Francisca Jacinta?? I just wondered >> if there is anything there that might say that Grinaldo might have ended up >> being called Jose? >> >> Thanks! >> >> Susan Vargas Murphy >> >> Ps...Cheri, I am looking at these records again because they are my >> ancestors and ALSO Jerome Silveira's:) >> >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-B-1716-1729/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-B-1716-1729_item1/P81.html?fbclid=IwAR1aEhQAIxg45XsM6DvcGSZUTYszh_28k_B3YJzhqpRf78RBM2Cqvw9h5UU >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Poor's Asylum, Matriz, Faial
Thank you Sent from my iPhone > On May 2, 2019, at 3:19 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Hi Liz, > > No, the expostos (exposto - male or exposta-female) were the foundlings or > abandoned babies that were left at the roda at the CHURCH. You open the small > door on the church wall to place your offering (or baby) and spin it around > so the baby (or offering) goes inside the church. The one I saw last summer > had a door of about 18 inches high by about 12 inches wide. I didn't measure > it. > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > >> On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 3:14 PM Liz Migliori wrote: >> Was this also the place where the Esposta makes Rhoda was >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On May 2, 2019, at 1:30 PM, saudade...@gmail.com wrote: >>> >>> Thank you ladies! So, if I'm reading correctly, this place eventually >>> become the Walter Bensaude Hospital and was such when my great-grandfather >>> was there in 1948? >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Poor's Asylum, Matriz, Faial
Hi Liz, No, the expostos (exposto - male or exposta-female) were the foundlings or abandoned babies that were left at the roda at the CHURCH. You open the small door on the church wall to place your offering (or baby) and spin it around so the baby (or offering) goes inside the church. The one I saw last summer had a door of about 18 inches high by about 12 inches wide. I didn't measure it. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 3:14 PM Liz Migliori wrote: > Was this also the place where the Esposta makes Rhoda was > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 2, 2019, at 1:30 PM, saudade...@gmail.com wrote: > > Thank you ladies! So, if I'm reading correctly, this place eventually > become the Walter Bensaude Hospital and was such when my great-grandfather > was there in 1948? > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Side bar help! Pedro Miguel
Wow, what a name! If no one can get it, you may need to email the archives and ask them if they could so kindly tell you what is written in the left margin of that record. That bend is difficult. bpar.horta.i...@azores.gov.pt Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 2:11 PM 'Susan Vargas Murphy' via Azores Genealogy < azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I have been going over some research that i did long ago and wondered if > the experts here could take a look at the side bar on this baptism record > for Grinaldo on the right page middle record. I do not need help with > reading the record itself.but the side bar, which is very faded. > > This is the thing.This family had a ton of children.14 at > least.this Grinaldo is never heard from again...no marriage or > death.. > > Then they had a Jose and I could never find his baptism record.Jose > marries to Francisca Jacinta in Pedro Miguel, Faial.on 27 May 1759 > He dies 26 Sept 1781 > > Looking at the side bar of Grinaldo's baptism, it looks like the name > Joseph is there and maybe even a reference to Francisca Jacinta?? I just > wondered if there is anything there that might say that Grinaldo might have > ended up being called Jose? > > Thanks! > > Susan Vargas Murphy > > Ps...Cheri, I am looking at these records again because they are my > ancestors and ALSO Jerome Silveira's:) > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-B-1716-1729/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-B-1716-1729_item1/P81.html?fbclid=IwAR1aEhQAIxg45XsM6DvcGSZUTYszh_28k_B3YJzhqpRf78RBM2Cqvw9h5UU > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Poor's Asylum, Matriz, Faial
Was this also the place where the Esposta makes Rhoda was Sent from my iPhone > On May 2, 2019, at 1:30 PM, saudade...@gmail.com wrote: > > Thank you ladies! So, if I'm reading correctly, this place eventually become > the Walter Bensaude Hospital and was such when my great-grandfather was there > in 1948? > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Side bar help! Pedro Miguel
Hi Everyone, I have been going over some research that i did long ago and wondered if the experts here could take a look at the side bar on this baptism record for Grinaldo on the right page middle record. I do not need help with reading the record itself.but the side bar, which is very faded. This is the thing.This family had a ton of children.14 at least.this Grinaldo is never heard from again...no marriage or death.. Then they had a Jose and I could never find his baptism record.Jose marries to Francisca Jacinta in Pedro Miguel, Faial.on 27 May 1759 He dies 26 Sept 1781 Looking at the side bar of Grinaldo's baptism, it looks like the name Joseph is there and maybe even a reference to Francisca Jacinta?? I just wondered if there is anything there that might say that Grinaldo might have ended up being called Jose? Thanks! Susan Vargas Murphy Ps...Cheri, I am looking at these records again because they are my ancestors and ALSO Jerome Silveira's:) http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-B-1716-1729/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-B-1716-1729_item1/P81.html?fbclid=IwAR1aEhQAIxg45XsM6DvcGSZUTYszh_28k_B3YJzhqpRf78RBM2Cqvw9h5UU -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Poor's Asylum, Matriz, Faial
Thank you ladies! So, if I'm reading correctly, this place eventually become the Walter Bensaude Hospital and was such when my great-grandfather was there in 1948? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Poor's Asylum, Matriz, Faial
It was what today is the Santa Casa da Misericórdia, like Cheri said. In this case, here's the convent where it was: https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convento_de_S%C3%A3o_Francisco_(Horta) Cheri Mello escreveu no dia quinta, 2/05/2019 à(s) 21:14: > Today, the are the Casa de Misericórdia. > Do an Internet search for: "Asilo de Mendicidade" Horta > If you are using Google, you can use the "Translate this page" link to > help you read. > Good luck, > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > > On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 1:11 PM wrote: > >> If I have it right, it says "Asilo de Mendicidade, da freguesia de >> Matriz". >> >> On Thursday, May 2, 2019 at 1:42:34 PM UTC-6, Cheri Mello wrote: >>> >>> Saudade064, >>> >>> I didn't know that the Azores had the poor asylums. I know about the >>> American ones. What does it say for "poor asylum" on the document in the >>> Portuguese language? >>> >>> Thanks, Cheri >>> Cheri Mello >>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira >>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >>> >>> >>> On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 12:23 PM wrote: >>> I was able to get a death certificate for my great-grandfather who came to California but went back to Faial, his island of birth sometime in the 1930s. In the translation of the record, I discovered he died in a place called "Poor's Asylum" in 1948, which was located in Matriz, Faial. I cannot find anything online about this place. I'd like to know it's history and see what it looked like. I'm wondering if it was part of a church? Thanks in advance to anyone who can shed some light on this place! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azo...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Poor's Asylum, Matriz, Faial
Today, the are the Casa de Misericórdia. Do an Internet search for: "Asilo de Mendicidade" Horta If you are using Google, you can use the "Translate this page" link to help you read. Good luck, Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 1:11 PM wrote: > If I have it right, it says "Asilo de Mendicidade, da freguesia de > Matriz". > > On Thursday, May 2, 2019 at 1:42:34 PM UTC-6, Cheri Mello wrote: >> >> Saudade064, >> >> I didn't know that the Azores had the poor asylums. I know about the >> American ones. What does it say for "poor asylum" on the document in the >> Portuguese language? >> >> Thanks, Cheri >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >> >> >> On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 12:23 PM wrote: >> >>> I was able to get a death certificate for my great-grandfather who came >>> to California but went back to Faial, his island of birth sometime in the >>> 1930s. In the translation of the record, I discovered he died in a place >>> called "Poor's Asylum" in 1948, which was located in Matriz, Faial. I >>> cannot find anything online about this place. I'd like to know it's history >>> and see what it looked like. I'm wondering if it was part of a church? >>> Thanks in advance to anyone who can shed some light on this place! >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to azo...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Poor's Asylum, Matriz, Faial
If I have it right, it says "Asilo de Mendicidade, da freguesia de Matriz". On Thursday, May 2, 2019 at 1:42:34 PM UTC-6, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Saudade064, > > I didn't know that the Azores had the poor asylums. I know about the > American ones. What does it say for "poor asylum" on the document in the > Portuguese language? > > Thanks, Cheri > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > > On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 12:23 PM > wrote: > >> I was able to get a death certificate for my great-grandfather who came >> to California but went back to Faial, his island of birth sometime in the >> 1930s. In the translation of the record, I discovered he died in a place >> called "Poor's Asylum" in 1948, which was located in Matriz, Faial. I >> cannot find anything online about this place. I'd like to know it's history >> and see what it looked like. I'm wondering if it was part of a church? >> Thanks in advance to anyone who can shed some light on this place! >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azo...@googlegroups.com . >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Poor's Asylum, Matriz, Faial
Saudade064, I didn't know that the Azores had the poor asylums. I know about the American ones. What does it say for "poor asylum" on the document in the Portuguese language? Thanks, Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 12:23 PM wrote: > I was able to get a death certificate for my great-grandfather who came to > California but went back to Faial, his island of birth sometime in the > 1930s. In the translation of the record, I discovered he died in a place > called "Poor's Asylum" in 1948, which was located in Matriz, Faial. I > cannot find anything online about this place. I'd like to know it's history > and see what it looked like. I'm wondering if it was part of a church? > Thanks in advance to anyone who can shed some light on this place! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Poor's Asylum, Matriz, Faial
I was able to get a death certificate for my great-grandfather who came to California but went back to Faial, his island of birth sometime in the 1930s. In the translation of the record, I discovered he died in a place called "Poor's Asylum" in 1948, which was located in Matriz, Faial. I cannot find anything online about this place. I'd like to know it's history and see what it looked like. I'm wondering if it was part of a church? Thanks in advance to anyone who can shed some light on this place! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
