[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family size survey
My great grandmother Maria Jacintha de Sousa, born 1858 in Velas, Sao Jorge had seven children and 22 grandchildren. Phil Lopes On Monday, September 23, 2019 at 6:34:46 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Can you all let me know the largest Azorean family you have in your > database? I prefer the late 1800s onwards, and it must be from ONE wife. > All kids, whether or not they lived to adulthood. > > Example: 14 kids from ONE wife, includes one set of twins. Kids born from > 1890-1913. > > Thanks, Cheri > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/e239a286-dd3e-4893-9129-9b5dda76c9ef%40googlegroups.com.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: I.D.E.S. Fraternal Organization
IDES along with several other Societies merged into Portuguese Fraternal Societies of America some years ago. Headquarters is in bay area of CA. I and my nuclear family were members of IDES, now are members of PFSA. Phil Lopes On Sunday, September 10, 2017 at 10:42:08 AM UTC-7, Jeremy G. B-C: Researching Sao Jorge wrote: > > Hello, > > I just found out that my grandfather was a member of the Irmandade do > Divono Espirito Santo (I.D.E.S.), does anyone know the whereabouts of their > records (if they exist)? > > Thanks! > > JEREMY > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azores DNA Project News email
I received it. Phil Lopes On Wednesday, May 10, 2017 at 10:30:12 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Did any existing FTDNA customers get the email that I sent through the > FTDNA system regarding the DNA Project? It basically reminded people to > upload their Gedcom, the project was growing, the conference in Salt Lake. > And maybe a couple of other things. > > FTDNA said it went out. The few people I've asked said they didn't get it. > So I need more than a few to tell me that they didn't get it. Thanks! Cheri > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Dual Citizenship
David, I am curious, did your son secure citizenship as a result of your citizenship or did he have to go through the same process as you did? Thanks. *Phil Lopes* On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 11:45 AM, David Perry <djperr...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > I too had a stumbling block - my father had changed his last name from > Pereira to Perry. That would be a "break" in the paper trail and was > sufficient to deny my application. Fortunately, I had a document from 1938 > when my father legally changed his name using his two brothers as > witnesses. The San Francisco Consulate was a bit reluctant to accept > anything that old and in fact they had rejected my father's birth > certificate from the Azores also acquired in 1938 so I had to get a more > recent copy. Anyway, they sent everything off to Lisbon and someone in > Lisbon apparently was happy with the name change document and approved my > application. > > My son had applied before I did in New York and was told he had to learn > the language, etc., etc. I applied in San Francisco with no such > requirement - just submit the papers and pay the money. After I received > my citizenship, I sent my paper trail along with my Lisbon acceptance to my > son in New York who was then able to sail through with no additional > requirements and he received his citizenship in just a few weeks. > > David > > > On Tuesday, January 10, 2017 10:28 AM, Phil Lopes <lopesp...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > I secured dual citizenship several years ago and it took 5+ years but the > offer for second generation citizenship was new at the time. It seems the > process now is less time consuming. My major stumbling block was that since > I had lived in three countries, I had to secure police reports from each > which was impossible. The block was only overcome by the Portuguese Consul > General in San Francisco securing a waiver of this requirement for me. > Phil Lopes > > On Monday, January 9, 2017 at 1:51:44 PM UTC-7, Colleen Wright wrote: > > Has anyone done this and how difficult of a process was getting Dual > citizenship? > > Obrigado, > > Colleen Wright > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/ > topic/azores/E_FxJBlCA4I/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/ > topic/azores/E_FxJBlCA4I/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Dual Citizenship
I am a grandchild, parents born in US, grandparents in Portugal. A language test was required, reading, writing, and speaking. I was required to travel to San Jose State University an official testing center, to have the language test. Since, as I said in my previous email I secured citizenship a few years ago, the requirements may have changed. Hope this helps. *Phil Lopes* On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 2:22 PM, nancy jean baptiste < fishsongf...@hotmail.com> wrote: > It's my understanding that if you are a grandchild and your parent was > born in the U.S. that you need the language exam. I'd like to know if that > is not the case if anyone knows! > > > Thanks, > > Nancy Jean > -- > *From:* azores@googlegroups.com <azores@googlegroups.com> on behalf of > Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 10, 2017 2:29:44 PM > *To:* Azores Genealogy > *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Dual Citizenship > > It sounds like the children or grandchildren don't need the language > requirement, but greats onwards do. > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 12:25 PM, Marilyn Thompson <mari...@jmtmlt.com> > wrote: > >> So am I understanding that you are not required to have a knowledge of >> the language to get dual citizenship? >> That is my limiting factor. >> >> Marilyn Thompson >> >> On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 11:45 AM, David Perry <djperr...@sbcglobal.net> >> wrote: >> >>> I too had a stumbling block - my father had changed his last name from >>> Pereira to Perry. That would be a "break" in the paper trail and was >>> sufficient to deny my application. Fortunately, I had a document from 1938 >>> when my father legally changed his name using his two brothers as >>> witnesses. The San Francisco Consulate was a bit reluctant to accept >>> anything that old and in fact they had rejected my father's birth >>> certificate from the Azores also acquired in 1938 so I had to get a more >>> recent copy. Anyway, they sent everything off to Lisbon and someone in >>> Lisbon apparently was happy with the name change document and approved my >>> application. >>> >>> My son had applied before I did in New York and was told he had to learn >>> the language, etc., etc. I applied in San Francisco with no such >>> requirement - just submit the papers and pay the money. After I received >>> my citizenship, I sent my paper trail along with my Lisbon acceptance to my >>> son in New York who was then able to sail through with no additional >>> requirements and he received his citizenship in just a few weeks. >>> >>> David >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, January 10, 2017 10:28 AM, Phil Lopes <lopesp...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> I secured dual citizenship several years ago and it took 5+ years but >>> the offer for second generation citizenship was new at the time. It seems >>> the process now is less time consuming. My major stumbling block was that >>> since I had lived in three countries, I had to secure police reports from >>> each which was impossible. The block was only overcome by the Portuguese >>> Consul General in San Francisco securing a waiver of this requirement for >>> me. >>> Phil Lopes >>> >>> On Monday, January 9, 2017 at 1:51:44 PM UTC-7, Colleen Wright wrote: >>> >>> Has anyone done this and how difficult of a process was getting Dual >>> citizenship? >>> >>> Obrigado, >>> >>> Colleen Wright >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>> Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/to >>> pic/azores/E_FxJBlCA4I/unsubscribe. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>> azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Dual Citizenship
I secured dual citizenship several years ago and it took 5+ years but the offer for second generation citizenship was new at the time. It seems the process now is less time consuming. My major stumbling block was that since I had lived in three countries, I had to secure police reports from each which was impossible. The block was only overcome by the Portuguese Consul General in San Francisco securing a waiver of this requirement for me. Phil Lopes On Monday, January 9, 2017 at 1:51:44 PM UTC-7, Colleen Wright wrote: > > Has anyone done this and how difficult of a process was getting Dual > citizenship? > > Obrigado, > > Colleen Wright > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fwd: Interested in Portuguese citizenship
I received my citizenship about a year ago. I was required to take a Portuguese exam offered by the University of Lisbon at San Jose State University. At the time exam was only offered twice a year. Exam took about three hours and included comprehension, writing, and conversation and cost about $100.00. My guess is that the ability to speak Portuguese will continue to be required. On Wednesday, August 19, 2015 at 4:46:40 AM UTC-7, nancy jean baptiste wrote: Thanks for the information. It's still unclear if a language exam will be necessary. Does anyone know? Nancy Jean -- From: ma...@nyu.edu javascript: Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 06:27:28 -0400 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fwd: Interested in Portuguese citizenship To: azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: Here is information I received from the Portuguese Citizenship Reconnect organization. Attached are two documents with specific information. Hope this helps! MaryAnn -- Forwarded message -- From: *Portuguese Citizenship* ptciti...@gmail.com javascript: Date: Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 6:40 PM Subject: Re: Interested in Portuguese citizenship To: MaryAnn Santos ma...@nyu.edu javascript: Good afternoon Ms. MaryAnn Santos, I hope this e-mail finds you well. On 29 July an alteration to the Portuguese Nationality Act was approved in order to consider the grandchildren of Portuguese citizens Portuguese by origin. In sum, under the newly enacted law, obtaining citizenship depends on three requirements: (i) knowledge of the Portuguese language; (ii) regular visits to Portugal; and (iii) the applicant cannot have been found guilty of a crime with a prison sentence over 3 years. I attach hereto our Legal News Alert on the new law. If you feel you meet these requirements, kindly complete the assessment form attached hereto. Feel free to contact me with any questions or concerns. Best Regards, Lisette -- -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Seeking Portuguese citizenship
Sam, Did not keep close track of costs but not counting expenses of trip to Colombia to try to get police report, I would guess costs were about $500 which was for translation costs, language test fees, and processing fees. I did not use a lawyer. This is my answer to another inquiry about the language exam: Hard to assess difficulty of exam. At the time I spoke my best Brazilian Portuguese over 25 yrs ago I took a standardized test and scored just below an educated native speaker. On the test for citizenship which I took last November I received a score of 85 which barely got me into the top category, a muito bom. The test took almost three hours and included written, reading and listening comprehension, and conversing with the test monitor. When one signs up for the language test (and pay your money) you will receive a sample test which I found very useful. You do not have to show connection to all grandparents. The Portuguese government accepted my connection to my paternal grandfather only who was born on the mainland. However, interestingly my Portuguese citizenship card lists my parents who were born in US. I do not know if one's children can become citizens if you get it through this process. Hope this helps. *Phil Lopes* On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 7:58 AM, aportugee via Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com wrote: Phil Lopes; Since you have recently obtained your Portuguese citizenship, a few questions, if you don’t mind. 1. What did the entire process cost you? 2. As, I believe E asked, how complicated was the language test? Was it entirely written or also spoken? 3. Do all 4 of your grandparents have to have been born in Portugal/Azores? 4. Will this citizenship pass on to your children? (or make it easier/possible for them to also obtain Portuguese citizenship? Thanks in advance for your time, Sam in NC Sent from Windows Mail -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/FWSQYrNoLok/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
