[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Introduction and Information on Anthony (Antonio, Antonie) Family from Flores
Hi Ed. My parent's families are also from Flores I find the records challenging because of clarity more than not being able to read Portuguese. I don't know about the surname Anthony or Antonio but my relatives have that as a first name the last name Miguel (which is really a first name as is Anthony). Their surname is also listed as da Freitas with the Miguel, sometimes used alone. I also have Nicolau as a first name for my 2nd great grandfather. I would play around with some of my surnames use Antonio or Antone as a first name. You have given me a great idea for mine that is to use my Antonio as a last name. Thanks! They often switched names around; e.g., the father would be Joao Antonio the son would be Antonio Joao. Good luck! On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 12:16:13 PM UTC-8, destin...@gmail.com wrote: Good afternoon, My name is Ed Anthony originally from Connecticut and now residing in Tennessee. I have been helping my son with the family tree over the last few years and one our greatest challenges is on the “Anthony” line since it apparently goes through the Azores. I am checking to see if anyone has worked with the “Anthony” family from Flores, Azores. All the U.S information for the family leads back through my 3 GG who is Nicholas C. Anthony and is documented as being from Flores, Azores. Based on the records in the U. S. his parents were also born there. I have no parish or village to go by. Nicholas was born on January 6, 1808 and came to the states sometime before 1830 when he married in New London CT. I know he was a mariner (whaling?) and eventually was a sea captain as his name is on several CT crew lists and all note his birth place as Flores. My guess is that his name has been Americanized or the last name dropped but not sure in what way (Nicholau Antonio or Nicholau Antonio ?). I took a stab at looking at some of the baptismal records in Flores on the CCA Web site but my eyes are not great and have no knowledge of Portuguese. I was able to make out some of the words but the script can be a challenge. I found 5 parishes with baptismal records back to 1808 on Flores. If there is someone who already has worked on this family or who already has already translated some of the records I would be grateful for any help you could provide. I am particularly interested in Nicholas’ Portuguese name (including what the “C” represents), and that of his parents, grandparents, and other siblings if any. I am open to other suggestions on steps to take in locating this information. Thank you for your time. Ed -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Introduction
Miguel de Freitas. This exact thing is very common in the Azores, at least. It would surprise me if it wasn't also common elsewhere in Portugal, but I don't have enough experience elsewhere to tell you with any confidence. I have an ancestor whose name was Lourenço da Rocha Homem on my direct paternal line. Most of the time he used just Lourenço da Rocha, born in 1751, if I recall correctly, in Terceira. My line continued with the double surname of Rocha Homem (now Rocha Holmes for my children), but his brothers, four of them, honored their father by using as their surname the combination of Rocha Lourenço. And like your Miguel line, this name combination continues to this day in Terceira. In fact, there is a person in the USA who got the DNA test named Lawrence who is one of these descendants and they didn't even know it was in honor of that ancestor. Good luck. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Introduction From: Steve Burton up4orch...@gmail.com Date: Sun, December 08, 2013 9:34 pm To: azores@googlegroups.com Cheri Thanks for responding so promptly. I have some information on my 2nd great grandfather Nicolau de Freitas (B-abt 1795 I think Lomba, Lajes das Flores D-12 Feb 1860 documented in Lomba, Lajes das Flores) on his wife Ana de Jesus Pimentel (B-1800, D-1886) also Lomba, Lajes das Flores. I'm looking to expand information on Nicolau's parents (Francisco de Freitas Miguel B-abt 1732 Maria Francisca Pimentel). We have looked at records in Flores nearby Corvo but we're not finding anything. Should I look on other islands? If so, do you have an on-line resource that I could research? Since the surname Miguel does not seem common in the islands, could they have immigrated from mainland Portugal? What source is available for Portugal? I've done the search on the Ancestry data base found nothing on any island. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/Y5NvkbCkvZ0/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Introduction
Cheri Thanks for responding so promptly. I have some information on my 2nd great grandfather Nicolau de Freitas (B-abt 1795 I think Lomba, Lajes das Flores D-12 Feb 1860 documented in Lomba, Lajes das Flores) on his wife Ana de Jesus Pimentel (B-1800, D-1886) also Lomba, Lajes das Flores. I'm looking to expand information on Nicolau's parents (Francisco de Freitas Miguel B-abt 1732 Maria Francisca Pimentel). We have looked at records in Flores nearby Corvo but we're not finding anything. Should I look on other islands? If so, do you have an on-line resource that I could research? Since the surname Miguel does not seem common in the islands, could they have immigrated from mainland Portugal? What source is available for Portugal? I've done the search on the Ancestry data base found nothing on any island. I appreciate any help and/or direction. Also, can I use my DNA results from Ancestry.com to join the Azores DNA project? I also had my DNA analyzed through 23 me was very disappointed in the results. Shirley Miguel Burton On Saturday, December 7, 2013 8:10:34 PM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote: Shirley Miguel, I run the Azores DNA project with Family Tree DNA (FTDNA). There are 616 of us in the Azores DNA project. I think there are maybe 12 people on Ancestry (I run the project there too, but their admin tools are lame). Spain and Portugal make up the Iberian Peninsula. I don't remember the reference population for Ancestry, but it was recently updated. FTDNA is currently updating their reference population database and it will include Portuguese. Hopefully they will have it ready to go next year. You never really stated what you perceive your 'logjam to be, nor did you ask any direct questions, so I'm not real sure how to help you. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: European Portuguese?
Helen Thanks, I will. I'm new to this, but will try catch up. Shirley Miguel On Saturday, December 7, 2013 8:35:02 PM UTC-8, hke...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Shirley, See my email of Friday that has a link that answers your question. Best, helen cunha kerner *From:* Shirley Miguel up4g...@gmail.com javascript: *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: *Sent:* Saturday, December 7, 2013 6:12 PM *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: European Portuguese? I'd like the answer as well. I bought a dictionary, but returned it because it was Brazilian Portuguese. Shirley On Thursday, December 5, 2013 7:45:33 PM UTC-8, Anthony Soares wrote: Does any one out there know a good source to learn European as opposed to Brazillian Portuguese ? -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.