Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Warning about DNA Projects on Social Media.

[Steve Wright]

Upsetting that he asking people to remove their kits from project!

Colleen

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> On Aug 11, 2017, at 8:05 PM, Mary Bordi  wrote:
> 
> Good to know I'm not the only one wondering what's going on.  I have been a 
> little irritated by certain things on social media, too.  Someone, not the 
> "main" person,  has been giving (possibly well meant but...) erroneous 
> information to newbies. I can't stand to watch. 
> 
> I have only one mtDNA match and that's at the lowest level. But it's to a man 
> whose mother's family has lived in a certain part of Portugal for 
> generations. That means a lot to me! It's worth having taken the test! As 
> more people test I'm sure there will be more matches. 
> 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Warning about DNA Projects on Social Media.

[Steve Wright]

Thank you for clarifying. I've seen the statements on social media and was a 
little irritated. This person seems to have a lot of hatred towards a certain 
person. I became very Leary after reading his comments.

Thank you for all you and the administrators due for the Azores project!

Colleen
Researching: Rosa, Cunha, Bettencourt from Graciosa and Silva, Machado, 
Goncalves from Terceira and Pico

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> On Aug 11, 2017, at 5:30 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have been involved in DNA Testing for over 10 years having started with the 
> National Geographic Project in 2006. During the course of the years I have 
> read and learned much about DNA Testing and what it will and will not do.
> 
> I have recently learned that a DNA Group in Social Media is giving wrong and 
> misleading information about DNA in an effort to draw people from legitimate 
> projects sponsored by DNA testing Companies.
> 
> People are being told:  “mtDNA is still too useless until we get a massive 
> increase and even then I don't think being in a project will really help. The 
> only real help for mtDNA is to look at your matches and contact them. Nothing 
> more is necessary“. This statement shows me a total lack of understanding DNA.
> 
> mtDNA is useful. If two tests match at the full sequence testing level and 
> live in the same geographical area. (in this case an island or better 
> Freguesia in the Azores), then the odds that they have a common maternal 
> ancestor is greatly increased. I recently came across a project where the 
> founding women from the Arcadian region in Canada were being matched to their 
> female descendant’s mtDNA.   I can guarantee that a person who tests their 
> full sequence mtDNA with the results of W3a2 with a female French Canadian 
> line are a direct maternal line descendant of Marie Marguarite who was born 
> in France around 1620. So to say that MtDNA is useless is ignorant.
> 
> I was a family finder match with a gentleman and when I looked at his profile 
> I saw he was and adoptee. I also noted he had done the mtDNA and his results 
> were he was a W3a2. When I contacted him for more information he told me his 
> adoptive parents were told he was of Canadian and Irish decent. I told him of 
> the French Canadian W3a2’s and that gave him his first big clue in finding 
> his biological mother. When I checked back with him several months later he 
> had broken his maternal wall thanks to mtDNA and Autosomal DNA testing and 
> yes Marie Marguarite was his maternal line.
> 
> People are also being told “The same thing goes for people who have done 
> Family Finder testing. I see no reason to join a project – zero”. It is well 
> proven that Autosomal DNA testing will identify relationships and rule out 
> relationships. For those who have taken this test, know, Family Finder will 
> give you results that help  in breaking down walls.
> 
> Why should you join a DNA Project with Family Tree DNA (FTDNA)?
> 
> FTDNA regards privacy of the individual most important and will not release 
> information to 3rd parties for research or allow open searching of results. 
> Your contact information is only given to persons that you match.
> 
> FTDNA search tools are better than any which you will find on social media.
> 
> FTDNA allows you to isolate matches that belong to a single project.
> 
> FTDNA administrators are given opportunities to further their knowledge at 
> yearly conferences in Houston with DNA experts such as Spencer Wells.
> 
> FTDNA administrators are held accountable for enforcing company rules in 
> regard to privacy.
> 
> The FTDNA administrators will never make changes to kits unless they are 
> directed by the owner of the kits or add or delete projects they belong to 
> unlike the owner of this group on Facebook.
> 
> The bottom line is that this individual has a vendetta against the Azores DNA 
> Project and the Portugal project because the Administrators refused to 
> provide personal information that they had a fiduciary responsibility to 
> protect.
> 
> If you feel your DNA Test logon password is compromised then I urge you to 
> change it so that just you have control over your information and not any 
> unscrupulous person on social media.
> 
>  
> 
> Rick
> Richard Francis Pimentel
> Epping, NH
> Co-Administrator Azores DNA Project.
> Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
> Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores
>  
> 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Mateus, Terceria - meaning of ribbon?

[Steve Wright]

Thank you Richard for the information.

>From what I can tell, parent did not return to claim baby.

Colleen
*Researching Goncalves, Machado, Silva from Terceria and Pico. Cunha, Rosa,
Bettencourt from Graciosa*

On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 1:18 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel <
rickredle...@gmail.com> wrote:

> *Many times the person leaving the child would leave something with the
> child. In this case a white satin ribbon with purple branches on his right
> arm and a note with his name, this was in case they decided to reclaim the
> child they could be identified as the parent/parents.*
>
>
>
> *Rick*
>
>
>
> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Steve Wright
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 11, 2017 4:14 PM
> *To:* AZORES GENEALOGY - Google group
> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Mateus, Terceria - meaning of ribbon?
>
>
>
> My great grandfather, Roberto Luis Goncalves, was exposed at the wheel
> with the following signal:  a white satin ribbon with purple branches on
> his right arm and a note with his name.
>
>
>
> Does anyone know the significance of the ribbon and purple branches?
>
>
>
> Thanks for you continued support in researching our ancestors.
>
>
>
> Colleen Wright
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Mateus, Terceria - meaning of ribbon?

[Steve Wright]

My great grandfather, Roberto Luis Goncalves, was exposed at the wheel with
the following signal:  a white satin ribbon with purple branches on his
right arm and a note with his name.

Does anyone know the significance of the ribbon and purple branches?

Thanks for you continued support in researching our ancestors.

Colleen Wright

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with translation

[Steve Wright]

Thank you so much Margaret for your quick response. Much appreciated.

Colleen Wright

On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Margaret Vicente <
margaretvice...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Steve,
>
> Agostinho Machado da Silva, de 20 anos, solteiro, natural da freguesia de
> Sao Pedro, d'esta
> cidade, filho de Antonio Machado da Silva e de Maria Silva?, levando sua
> irma Marianna Silva,
> de 18 anos, solteira, da mesma freguesia.
>
> Agostinho Machado da Silva, 20 years old, single, natural of the Parish of
> Sao Pedro, of this City.
> Son of Antonio Machado da Silva and of Maria Silva?, taking his sister
> Mariana Silva with him, 18 years old, single, of this same Parish
>
> The Mother's surname is not clear to me as I don't see the (i) in Silva,
> but the rest of the letters seem to match.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Margaret Vicente
>
> On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 1:25 PM, Steve Wright <cswrigh...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> This is the passport for my grandfather's brother, Augostino Machada da
>> Silva - traveling with sister Marianna to Lowell Mass.
>>
>> It is # 729 on July 29
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPO
>> RTES-TER-1909-1911/PASSAPORTES-TER-1909-1911_item1/P126.html
>>
>> Thank you so appreciate the help.
>>
>> Colleen Wright
>>
>> Researching - Machado, Silva, Goncalves on Terceira and Pico  and Rosa
>> and Cunha  - Graciosa
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with translation

[Steve Wright]

This is the passport for my grandfather's brother, Augostino Machada da
Silva - traveling with sister Marianna to Lowell Mass.

It is # 729 on July 29

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-TER-1909-1911/PASSAPORTES-TER-1909-1911_item1/P126.html

Thank you so appreciate the help.

Colleen Wright

Researching - Machado, Silva, Goncalves on Terceira and Pico  and Rosa and
Cunha  - Graciosa

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Dual Citizenship

[Steve Wright]

Has anyone done this and how difficult of a process was getting Dual
citizenship?

Obrigado,

Colleen Wright

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Interrupting translation

[Steve Wright]

Thank you to Joao Ventura for finding my grandfather's birth/baptismal re rods 
and his parents (my great-grandparents) marriage records and translating for me.
My question is understanding this part of translation -  "dispensed 1st and 2nd 
consiguenanty .  Does that mean she married her uncle?

Colleen Wright
Researching Graciosa, Rosa Cunha

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with translation

[Steve Wright]

thanks Cheri. Will check the site. I'm so excited to be finding more in the 
records, although very time consuming.

Colleen Wright

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> On Oct 10, 2016, at 8:42 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
> 
> There's a link to the word list as well as record transcriptions on the 
> Azores GenWeb. Cheri
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: ANNUAL DAR ANCESTOR ROUND-UP

[Steve Wright]

Rosemarie:

I've done that and the title does say 2017 but forms below states 2016.  Is
this the form to use.

Colleen

On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 11:49 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
wrote:

> It's there, just type in Ancestor Roundup in the 'search' box on Facebook
> and the class schedule, teachers bios and the flyer with the cost etc. is
> all there.
>
>
> Rosemarie
> rcap...@gmail.com
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
> On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 6:51 PM, linda  wrote:
>
>> Thanks Rosmarie,
>>
>> It looks like they haven't yet posted the 2017 class info/schedule yet,
>> but I'll keep an eye open for it.
>>
>> much appreciated!
>>
>> :)
>>
>> Linda
>>
>> On Saturday, October 8, 2016 at 10:32:06 PM UTC-7, rcapodc wrote:
>>>
>>> Ancestor Roundup:
>>>
>>> https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=36th%20annual%20dar%2
>>> 0ancestor%20roundup%20%20genealogy%20seminar%20january%2021%202017
>>>
>>> Rosemarie
>>> rcap...@gmail.com
>>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 8, 2016 at 10:01 PM, linda  wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Rosmarie!

 Could you possibly post a link?  I tried searching for the fliers, but
 had no luck finding them.

 :)

 Linda


 On Saturday, October 8, 2016 at 9:33:23 PM UTC-7, rcapodc wrote:
>
> The flyer with class info and registration info is now on Facebook
> under 36th Annual DAR Ancestor Round-up. There are many, many great 
> classes
> available. I will be presenting a two hour class on reading the Portuguese
> Church Records (this includes the Azores, Madeira, Portugal and Cape Verde
> records) This is a fun day for all and your registration can include lunch
> or you can bring a bag lunch and still eat with everyone! There is a flyer
> showing the classes available and a separate flyer for registration. You
> will have a good time and learn a lot about researching genealogy.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with translation

[Steve Wright]

Linda,
Interesting! She did go back to Graciosa, where she died. I was told she missed 
Graciosa.

I will look up the list on Family Search. You have been a big help.  

Now to find my grandmother's passport. She came at a later date.

Colleen

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> On Oct 10, 2016, at 8:28 PM, linda  wrote:
> 
> 
> oh, btw, "proprietaria" means that your great grandmother was a property 
> owner.
> 
> :)
> 
> Linda
> 
> 
>> On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 8:21:54 PM UTC-7, linda wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I'm glad to have helped :D  The vocabulary used in the records is limited, 
>> and with very little practice, you can be reading them in no time.  
>> FamilySearch.org has a list of words used in the records on their site, and 
>> that's really all you need to get started.
>> 
>> Here's a transcription:
>> 
>> Elvira Augusa de 30 anos,
>> casada com Antonio Augus-
>> to da Cunha, proprieta-
>> ria, natural da freguesia
>> de Santa Cruz ilha Gracio-
>> sa deste districto; levando seu
>> filho, Joao Augusto da Cu-
>> nha de 15 anos solteiro, traba-
>> lhador, Alfredo Augusto da
>> Cunha de 11, e Rosalia de 6 anos,
>> todos da dita freguesia.
>> 
>> 
>> Good luck!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 7:49:53 PM UTC-7, Colleen Wright wrote:
>>> Thank you so very much Linda. That is definitely my great grandmother and 
>>> her children.  My grandmother, her daughter came at a different time. So 
>>> thrilled to have found this.My skill level is zero!  It is good enough for 
>>> me to be able scan the records on tombo.pt but I'm not able to translate.
>>> 
>>> So excited to share this with a cousin of my father's who happens to be 
>>> daughter of Alfredo!
>>> 
>>> Obrigado,
>>> 
>>> Colleen
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
 On Oct 10, 2016, at 7:41 PM, linda  wrote:
 
 Hi Colleen,
 
 Here's a translation of the top, right corner entry.  I broke it up by 
 lines as they are in the original document so you can compare the two.  I 
 don't know your skill level, but I'd be happy to provide a transcription 
 too if you're trying to learn to read the records.
 
 passport number: 838 
 August 30th
 Destination: United States of North America
 
 Elvira Augusta, aged 30,
 married to Antonio Augus-
 to de Cunha, proprieta-
 ria, native of the parish
 of Santa Cruz, isle [of] Gracio-
 sa of this district; taking her
 son, Joao Augusto da Cu-
 nha aged 15 single, labor
 -er, Alfredo Augusto da
 Cunha [the age] of 11, and Rosalia [aged] 6 years,
 all of the said [i.e., the same] parish.
 
 Linda
 
 
> On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 4:46:29 PM UTC-7, Colleen Wright wrote:
> I believe this to be my great-grandmother's passport along with 3 of her 
> children, Alreado, Rosalia, Joao (Jose)! I know they arrived 9/16/1913 on 
> the ship Canopic.
> 
> Top right corner 
> 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-TER-1912-1914/PASSAPORTES-TER-1912-1914_item1/P118.html
> 
> Thank you again for your help,
> 
> Colleen Wright
> Researching: Cunha, Bettencourt, Rosa from Graciosa
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] ANNUAL DAR ANCESTOR ROUND-UP

[Steve Wright]

Rosemarie,
The forms seem to be for 2016. Do you know when they will be updated.

Thank you,

Colleen

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> On Oct 8, 2016, at 9:33 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci  wrote:
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> The flyer with class info and registration info is now on Facebook under 36th 
> Annual DAR Ancestor Round-up. There are many, many great classes available. I 
> will be presenting a two hour class on reading the Portuguese Church Records 
> (this includes the Azores, Madeira, Portugal and Cape Verde records) This is 
> a fun day for all and your registration can include lunch or you can bring a 
> bag lunch and still eat with everyone! There is a flyer showing the classes 
> available and a separate flyer for registration. You will have a good time 
> and learn a lot about researching genealogy. 
> Rosemarie
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with translation

[Steve Wright]

Thank you so very much Linda. That is definitely my great grandmother and her 
children.  My grandmother, her daughter came at a different time. So thrilled 
to have found this.My skill level is zero!  It is good enough for me to be able 
scan the records on tombo.pt but I'm not able to translate.

So excited to share this with a cousin of my father's who happens to be 
daughter of Alfredo!

Obrigado,

Colleen

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> On Oct 10, 2016, at 7:41 PM, linda  wrote:
> 
> Hi Colleen,
> 
> Here's a translation of the top, right corner entry.  I broke it up by lines 
> as they are in the original document so you can compare the two.  I don't 
> know your skill level, but I'd be happy to provide a transcription too if 
> you're trying to learn to read the records.
> 
> passport number: 838 
> August 30th
> Destination: United States of North America
> 
> Elvira Augusta, aged 30,
> married to Antonio Augus-
> to de Cunha, proprieta-
> ria, native of the parish
> of Santa Cruz, isle [of] Gracio-
> sa of this district; taking her
> son, Joao Augusto da Cu-
> nha aged 15 single, labor
> -er, Alfredo Augusto da
> Cunha [the age] of 11, and Rosalia [aged] 6 years,
> all of the said [i.e., the same] parish.
> 
> Linda
> 
> 
>> On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 4:46:29 PM UTC-7, Colleen Wright wrote:
>> I believe this to be my great-grandmother's passport along with 3 of her 
>> children, Alreado, Rosalia, Joao (Jose)! I know they arrived 9/16/1913 on 
>> the ship Canopic.
>> 
>> Top right corner 
>> 
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-TER-1912-1914/PASSAPORTES-TER-1912-1914_item1/P118.html
>> 
>> Thank you again for your help,
>> 
>> Colleen Wright
>> Researching: Cunha, Bettencourt, Rosa from Graciosa
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation

[Steve Wright]

I believe this to be my great-grandmother's passport along with 3 of her
children, Alreado, Rosalia, Joao (Jose)! I know they arrived 9/16/1913 on
the ship Canopic.

Top right corner

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-TER-1912-1914/PASSAPORTES-TER-1912-1914_item1/P118.html

Thank you again for your help,

Colleen Wright
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with place of passports

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Thank you!

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 4:18 PM, Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com> wrote:

> You'll have to look in both, but I would think people from Graciosa
> registered in Angra. However, I don't research that island, so don't take
> my word for it.
>
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> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 4:15 PM, Steve Wright <cswrigh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have found the ship (Canopic) manifest for my great-grandmother and my
>> grandmother.  It arrived in Boston, MA on September 16, 1913.  Says it
>> sailed from St. Michaels.
>>
>> They were from Graciosa.  Is it most likely they went to Horta to obtain
>> passport and sailed to Ponta Delgado  and left for states from their.
>>
>> Any clue on which passport book to look - Horta or Ponta Delgado.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Colleen
>>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with place of passports

[Steve Wright]

I have found the ship (Canopic) manifest for my great-grandmother and my
grandmother.  It arrived in Boston, MA on September 16, 1913.  Says it
sailed from St. Michaels.

They were from Graciosa.  Is it most likely they went to Horta to obtain
passport and sailed to Ponta Delgado  and left for states from their.

Any clue on which passport book to look - Horta or Ponta Delgado.

Thank you,

Colleen

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with translation

[Steve Wright]

Sorry Cheri - I'm researching Antonio Da Cunha born 1860

and Elvira Augusta Cunha forn 1862

Colleen

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 3:22 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> There are 3 records on these two pages. You need to pick one and state the
> names of the people you are looking for. Thanks.
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with translation

[Steve Wright]

I believe this to be information regarding my great grandparents but I am
unable to read.  Any clues would be helpful. I recognize the names on both
pages.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1904-1911/GRA-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1904-1911_item1/P35.html

Thank you,

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with translation!

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No, my mother's parents, Joseph (Jose) Machado Silva and Maria Goncalves Silva.

Colleen 

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> On Aug 9, 2016, at 10:56 PM, 'Helen Huckobey' via Azores Genealogy 
> <azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
> Was this your grandfather Rosa 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 9, 2016, at 2:37 PM, Steve Wright <cswrigh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> It was suppose to come into port in New Bedford.  Here is a link to the 
>> newspaper article.  
>> http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=9B01E7D7113FEE3ABC4850DFB266838A639EDE
>> 
>> Colleen
>> 
>>> On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 7:36 AM, Liz Migliori <lizmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Wow.  Where was it supposed to come into port?  Newport?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 8, 2016, at 9:09 PM, Steve Wright <cswrigh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you everyone! It is Luz!  I have their marriage from several years 
>>>> ago when I had Joao Ventura do some research for me.  Good to have their 
>>>> passport info.
>>>> 
>>>> I have also found their ship manifest, The Mormugao. Interestingly, it ran 
>>>> aground on Block Island. Hard to imagine them sailing to a strange country 
>>>> and that happening.
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you again for all the help that is given on this site!
>>>> 
>>>> Colleen
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 8, 2016, at 8:19 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci <rcap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks Margaret! I just couldn't make it out for the life of me!! 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Rosemarie
>>>>> rcap...@gmail.com
>>>>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>>>>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 6:55 PM, Margaret Vicente 
>>>>>> <margaretvice...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> It is Maria da Lus (Luz).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Here's the link to Jose's marriage information but here's the link to  
>>>>>> his Parent's Marriage:
>>>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-SAOPEDRO-C-1880-1889/TER-AH-SAOPEDRO-C-1880-1889_item1/P16.html
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 9:19 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci <rcap...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Jose Machado da Silva, 26 years old, married and native of Sao Pedro 
>>>>>>> son of Antonio Machado da Silva and Maria Deus?? not sure what the name 
>>>>>>> is only that it is four letters. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Maria Augusta da Silva, 24 years, married to Jose Machado da Silva, 
>>>>>>> native of Sao Matheus, Councelho of Angra. 
>>>>>>> Both going to Boston
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Rosemarie
>>>>>>> rcap...@gmail.com
>>>>>>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>>>>>>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 4:17 PM, Steve Wright <cswrigh...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I have found my maternal grandparents passports and can make out their 
>>>>>>>> names, Frequisa they are from but need more help.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Their names are Jose Machado Silva and Maria Augusta Silva
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> # 424 and 425 in ledger.  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thank you so very much.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-TER-1921-1923/PASSAPORTES-TER-1921-1923_item1/P49.html
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Colleen Wright
>>>>>>>> Researching: Rosa, Cunha, Bettencourt from Graciosa; Machado, Silva 
>>>>>>>> from Pico; Machado, Silva and Goncalves from Terceira
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with translation!

[Steve Wright]

It was suppose to come into port in New Bedford.  Here is a link to the
newspaper article.
http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=9B01E7D7113FEE3ABC4850DFB266838A639EDE

Colleen

On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 7:36 AM, Liz Migliori <lizmi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Wow.  Where was it supposed to come into port?  Newport?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 8, 2016, at 9:09 PM, Steve Wright <cswrigh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thank you everyone! It is Luz!  I have their marriage from several years
> ago when I had Joao Ventura do some research for me.  Good to have their
> passport info.
>
> I have also found their ship manifest, The Mormugao. Interestingly, it ran
> aground on Block Island. Hard to imagine them sailing to a strange country
> and that happening.
>
> Thank you again for all the help that is given on this site!
>
> Colleen
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Aug 8, 2016, at 8:19 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci <rcap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Margaret! I just couldn't make it out for the life of me!!
>
> Rosemarie
> rcap...@gmail.com
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
> On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 6:55 PM, Margaret Vicente <
> margaretvice...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> It is Maria da Lus (Luz).
>>
>> Here's the link to Jose's marriage information but here's the link to
>>  his Parent's Marriage:
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-
>> SAOPEDRO-C-1880-1889/TER-AH-SAOPEDRO-C-1880-1889_item1/P16.html
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 9:19 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci <rcap...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Jose Machado da Silva, 26 years old, married and native of Sao Pedro son
>>> of Antonio Machado da Silva and Maria Deus?? not sure what the name is only
>>> that it is four letters.
>>>
>>> Maria Augusta da Silva, 24 years, married to Jose Machado da Silva,
>>> native of Sao Matheus, Councelho of Angra.
>>> Both going to Boston
>>>
>>> Rosemarie
>>> rcap...@gmail.com
>>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 4:17 PM, Steve Wright <cswrigh...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have found my maternal grandparents passports and can make out their
>>>> names, Frequisa they are from but need more help.
>>>>
>>>> Their names are Jose Machado Silva and Maria Augusta Silva
>>>>
>>>> # 424 and 425 in ledger.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you so very much.
>>>>
>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPO
>>>> RTES-TER-1921-1923/PASSAPORTES-TER-1921-1923_item1/P49.html
>>>>
>>>> Colleen Wright
>>>> Researching: Rosa, Cunha, Bettencourt from Graciosa; Machado, Silva
>>>> from Pico; Machado, Silva and Goncalves from Terceira
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with translation!

[Steve Wright]

Thank you everyone! It is Luz!  I have their marriage from several years ago 
when I had Joao Ventura do some research for me.  Good to have their passport 
info.

I have also found their ship manifest, The Mormugao. Interestingly, it ran 
aground on Block Island. Hard to imagine them sailing to a strange country and 
that happening.

Thank you again for all the help that is given on this site!

Colleen

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 8, 2016, at 8:19 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci <rcap...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Margaret! I just couldn't make it out for the life of me!! 
> 
> Rosemarie
> rcap...@gmail.com
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
> 
>> On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 6:55 PM, Margaret Vicente <margaretvice...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> It is Maria da Lus (Luz).
>> 
>> Here's the link to Jose's marriage information but here's the link to  his 
>> Parent's Marriage:
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-SAOPEDRO-C-1880-1889/TER-AH-SAOPEDRO-C-1880-1889_item1/P16.html
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 9:19 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci <rcap...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> Jose Machado da Silva, 26 years old, married and native of Sao Pedro son of 
>>> Antonio Machado da Silva and Maria Deus?? not sure what the name is only 
>>> that it is four letters. 
>>> 
>>> Maria Augusta da Silva, 24 years, married to Jose Machado da Silva, native 
>>> of Sao Matheus, Councelho of Angra. 
>>> Both going to Boston
>>> 
>>> Rosemarie
>>> rcap...@gmail.com
>>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 4:17 PM, Steve Wright <cswrigh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I have found my maternal grandparents passports and can make out their 
>>>> names, Frequisa they are from but need more help.
>>>> 
>>>> Their names are Jose Machado Silva and Maria Augusta Silva
>>>> 
>>>> # 424 and 425 in ledger.  
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you so very much.
>>>> 
>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-TER-1921-1923/PASSAPORTES-TER-1921-1923_item1/P49.html
>>>> 
>>>> Colleen Wright
>>>> Researching: Rosa, Cunha, Bettencourt from Graciosa; Machado, Silva from 
>>>> Pico; Machado, Silva and Goncalves from Terceira
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with translation!

[Steve Wright]

I have found my maternal grandparents passports and can make out their
names, Frequisa they are from but need more help.

Their names are Jose Machado Silva and Maria Augusta Silva

# 424 and 425 in ledger.

Thank you so very much.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-TER-1921-1923/PASSAPORTES-TER-1921-1923_item1/P49.html

Colleen Wright
Researching: Rosa, Cunha, Bettencourt from Graciosa; Machado, Silva from
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with a birth place

[Steve Wright]

Yahoo!  Found my grandfather's passport information.  It verifies what my
father always said that he was from Sao Mateus,  Graciosa! He left from
Angra and came through New York at the age of 11! Settled in Lawrence,
Mass.  Doesn't look like he traveled with his parents though - so more
unanswered questions!
His name was not written correctly on ship's manifest which added to
confusion.  I have been searching for him for several years.  I had records
of him once he was in Massachusetts but not in Azores.  So exciting to have
this information.

Thank you Cheri Mello and Richard Pimentel all for your help.

Colleen Wright
Researching Rosa, Cunha-Bettencourt in Graciosa,  Machado-Silva in Pico and
Terceira,  and Goncalves in Terceira

On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 9:14 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Terceira passaportes for Angra (Terceira) for 1896-1902 are here:
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-TER-1896-1902/PASSAPORTES-TER-1896-1902_item1/index.html
>
> Since there are about 300 images and 1899 is in the middle, I clicked on
> image 150. I wasn't in 1899. So I went to image 140 which has October 1899.
> Work your way back. You are close. Very close.
>
> And please, no one find the image and give it to her unless she asks for
> help. Let her do it, scream and yell and freak her neighbors out! LOL
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with a birth place

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thanks Cheri!  Yes, I will jump for joy when I find it!

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> On Aug 3, 2016, at 9:14 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
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> Terceira passaportes for Angra (Terceira) for 1896-1902 are here:
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-TER-1896-1902/PASSAPORTES-TER-1896-1902_item1/index.html
> 
> Since there are about 300 images and 1899 is in the middle, I clicked on 
> image 150. I wasn't in 1899. So I went to image 140 which has October 1899. 
> Work your way back. You are close. Very close.
> 
> And please, no one find the image and give it to her unless she asks for 
> help. Let her do it, scream and yell and freak her neighbors out! LOL
> 
> Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with a birth place

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It was my mother's DNA. Francisco Sousa Rosa is my father's father. 

I found the ship manifest and he is listed as Franco de Sensa Rosa age 11.  
When looking at writing, I'm almost sure Sensa is Sousa.  He was born Oct. 
1887, so age fits.  Shows leaving from Terceira.  So I will search passports 
for Terceira now.  Trying to make out other passengers names he may have 
traveled with.

If I did my DNA, would it help in showing my father's?  My only brother has 
passed and no other living males. I see that FTDNA is having a sale now.

So excited to finally find out more about my dads side.

Colleen

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> On Aug 3, 2016, at 8:48 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
> 
> Unless "Sul" is Luz. Fenais da Luz but that's Sao Miguel island, not Graciosa.
> 
> Did you DNA test and are you matching S.Miguel people or Graciosa people?
> 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with a birth place

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Thanks for your suggestions.


Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 3, 2016, at 4:51 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel 
> <rfrancispimen...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Colleen,
>  
> I would suggest you go to the Ellis Island website. Try looking up his name 
> in any number of variations with the ship name and date of arrival you can 
> always find the manifest by backing into it and then check the names one by 
> one. The manifest should also say where what island it departed from and then 
> go to the passport records which are on line at the CCA web site. Most people 
> emigrating applied for their passport within a month of departing so start 
> searching with the arrival date and work back a couple of months. 
>  
>  
> Rick
>  
> Richard Francis Pimentel
> Epping, NH
>  
> Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
> Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores
>  
>  
>  
> From: 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2016 7:03 PM
> To: azores@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with a birth place
>  
> Are you sure its not Fayal or Faial. There several Fenais in the Azores.
>  
> 
> On Wednesday, August 3, 2016 4:46 PM, Steve Wright <cswrigh...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>  
> 
> I finally found my grandfather, Francisco Sousa Rosa's, Declaration of Intent 
> for Naturalization in Boston, Massachusetts.  
>  At least, I think it is him.  Birthdate and name are correct.  He has been 
> my brickwall for several years.
>  
> Form was definitely completed by someone else because his signature does not 
> match writing on form.
>  
> My question is for birthplace it is listed as Fenais, Azores.  Has anyone 
> ever heard of Fenais?  Also, on the form it states he immigrated to the 
> United States from Sul, Azores on the vessel da Maria and arrived at New York 
> harbor on Oct. 5th, 1899.  Also, lists last residence as Said Fenais, Azores. 
>  
> Do you think person wrote what they thought they heard?  He was 24 at time of 
> Declaration.
>  
> My father always said he was from Graciosa.  I'm not so sure because when 
> visiting Graciosa several years ago, I couldn't find anything.  I have also 
> had Joao Ventura search to no avail.  His wife Elvira Cunha was definitely 
> born there.  Have fun most of her records.  They married in Massachusetts.
>  
> Thank you for any help with my brickwall.
>  
> Colleen Wright
> Researching: Rosa, Cunha from Graciosa and Machado Silva and Gonsalves from 
> Pico and Terceira. 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with a birth place

[Steve Wright]

Thanks Cheri, appreciate your help and this group.

Colleen

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> On Aug 3, 2016, at 6:44 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
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> The Dona Maria sailed into New York on Oct. 1, 1899. That must be your ship 
> and the date.
> 
> However, that ship picked up people from all 3 Azorean ports before making it 
> to New York. However, you may be able to find him on Ancestry as only you 
> know your ancestor's birth date. The ships list will say sailed from Sao 
> Miguel and list those passengers for a few pages, then say Angra and list 
> those passengers and so on. So once you find your ancestor, then go to the 
> CCA and look there.
> 
> If you don't have an Ancestry subscription, your local FHC and public library 
> have one. It is against Ancestry terms for anyone to look up the stuff for 
> you and publicly post it.
> 
> Yeah, they wrote what they heard. My ancestor said she came on the Pensailor. 
> No ship ever existed by that name. I had the date and found the Peninsular. 
> Also, she said she immigrated under the name of Gloria Correia. She was 13 at 
> the time of immigration. 50 years later when she's filling out these forms 
> (well, she couldn't write) her memory as a bit different. And she was not the 
> one giving her name to the immigration officials. Her 16 year old sister was. 
> And her 16 year old sister liked using the family alcunha. Her paperwork for 
> the INS had a big stamp that said UNABLE TO VERIFY. Nope, they could not find 
> any Gloria Correia coming to New York on that date (but they did figure out 
> it was the Peninsular). Why would American INS workers in the 1950s even 
> think that Gloria Correia was the same person as Maria da Gloria Viola?
> 
> Anyways, you're getting close!
> 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with a birth place

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Definitely Fenais. Handwriting very clear.

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> On Aug 3, 2016, at 4:03 PM, 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy 
> <azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
> Are you sure its not Fayal or Faial. There several Fenais in the Azores.
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, August 3, 2016 4:46 PM, Steve Wright <cswrigh...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I finally found my grandfather, Francisco Sousa Rosa's, Declaration of Intent 
> for Naturalization in Boston, Massachusetts.  
>  At least, I think it is him.  Birthdate and name are correct.  He has been 
> my brickwall for several years.
> 
> Form was definitely completed by someone else because his signature does not 
> match writing on form.
> 
> My question is for birthplace it is listed as Fenais, Azores.  Has anyone 
> ever heard of Fenais?  Also, on the form it states he immigrated to the 
> United States from Sul, Azores on the vessel da Maria and arrived at New York 
> harbor on Oct. 5th, 1899.  Also, lists last residence as Said Fenais, Azores. 
> 
> Do you think person wrote what they thought they heard?  He was 24 at time of 
> Declaration.
> 
> My father always said he was from Graciosa.  I'm not so sure because when 
> visiting Graciosa several years ago, I couldn't find anything.  I have also 
> had Joao Ventura search to no avail.  His wife Elvira Cunha was definitely 
> born there.  Have fun most of her records.  They married in Massachusetts.
> 
> Thank you for any help with my brickwall.
> 
> Colleen Wright
> Researching: Rosa, Cunha from Graciosa and Machado Silva and Gonsalves from 
> Pico and Terceira. 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with a birth place

[Steve Wright]

I finally found my grandfather, Francisco Sousa Rosa's, Declaration of
Intent for Naturalization in Boston, Massachusetts.
 At least, I think it is him.  Birthdate and name are correct.  He has been
my brickwall for several years.

Form was definitely completed by someone else because his signature does
not match writing on form.

My question is for birthplace it is listed as Fenais, Azores.  Has anyone
ever heard of Fenais?  Also, on the form it states he immigrated to the
United States from Sul, Azores on the vessel da Maria and arrived at New
York harbor on Oct. 5th, 1899.  Also, lists last residence as Said Fenais,
Azores.

Do you think person wrote what they thought they heard?  He was 24 at time
of Declaration.

My father always said he was from Graciosa.  I'm not so sure because when
visiting Graciosa several years ago, I couldn't find anything.  I have also
had Joao Ventura search to no avail.  His wife Elvira Cunha was definitely
born there.  Have fun most of her records.  They married in Massachusetts.

Thank you for any help with my brickwall.

Colleen Wright
Researching: Rosa, Cunha from Graciosa and Machado Silva and Gonsalves from
Pico and Terceira.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Passports

[Steve Wright]

Is the information written in the log books dated the day they set sail for
United States.  If not how soon before sailing did they typically go down
to register?

Thank you,

Colleen Rosa Wright

Researching Machado, Silva, Goncalves in Pico and Terceira and Rosa, Cunha
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Researching the archives in Angra

[Steve Wright]

Where in Angra is a good place/museum that display pictures of the islands, 
people, villages from 1800's?  I will be in the Azores, mainly in Pico, this 
summer. Does anyone have recommendations?

Colleen

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 Note that they'll probably tell you to use the Internet to search for the 
 baptism, marriages and death records.. It may actually be slower than doing 
 it from home. For other documents not yet online, they'll probably let you 
 handle the real records.
 
 Don't waste your time (and theirs) doing something during that time that you 
 could do from home.
 
 Joao Ventura
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 On Friday, 15 May 2015 05:08:15 UTC+2, Cheri Mello wrote:
 Lisa,
 
 You can walk in there just like most archives. They have the baptisms, 
 marriages, and deaths for the central island group of Terceira, Sao Jorge, 
 Graciosa, and may be Pico. Because the Diocese is in Angra, they have all 
 EXISTING dispensations for all the islands.
 
 Joao will have to answer you himself.
 Cheri
 
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 I am travelling to the Azores in August and want an idea of what records 
 are available in Angra for research.  Do I need an appointment?  Are there 
 any land records available to research?  Joao, can I hire you to help me 
 out for a few hours or a day?
  
 Thank you!
  
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Book - About Azorean Boy on Whaleship

[Steve Wright]

Thanks Cheri - I will be ordering for my grandchildren.  My dad always
spoke of whalers in his family.

Colleen

On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:

 The New Bedford Whaling Museum shop.
 http://store.whalingmuseum.org/collections/childrens-books

 On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Steve Wright cswrigh...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Where can this book be purchased?

 Colleen

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  Someone, contacted me, about the name of the book.
  It, is called, Xico.
  A Boy, A Rat, and A Whaleship.
  The author is, David Blanchette.
 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: GRACIOSA ancestors

[Steve Wright]

I have a Joao Jose Bettencourt born June 16, 1782 - father Antonio.
 Haven't gone further back yet.

I have not had much luck in finding information for my grandfather,
Francisco Souza Rosa born 1887 in Graciosa (I am told). Arrive in Boston at
around age 4 or 5.  His parents were Manuel Rosa and Maria A. Rosa.   Any
clues would be appreciated.

Colleen Wright
Researching  Cunha, Rosa, Bettencourt in Graciosa


On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 1:25 AM, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva 
eliseuman...@sapo.pt wrote:

 Hi,



 Somehow I messed up some of my research I did some years ago J so I need
 help!!!



 Does anyone have this line:

 -  João Espínola Bettencourt married to Catarina Paula
 Bettencourt (I am not including the “de” on purpose). João was born in S.
 Mateus around 1724 and Catarina (may be) in Guadalupe. They married on the
 24 April, 1748 in Guadalupe. Catarina was born around 1724.



 (The Bettencourt surname have various forms depending on who wrote it:
 Bitancór, Bitencôr, Bitencor, Bitencurt, Bittencurt, Bitencourt,
 Bittencourt and may be other…)



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] GRACIOSA researcher's list

[Steve Wright]

Hi Eliseu:

I would like to be added to your Graciosa list.  I am researching my
grandparents, Francisco Sousa Rosa and Elvira Bettancourt Cunha.  Thanks to
Joao Ventura I have found information for my grandmother Elvira.  I have
been to Graciosa several years ago and saw my great grandmother, same name
as grandmother,  gravestone in village of Santa Cruz.  My grandfather is my
Brick Wall.  I even wonder if he was really born there.  Both immigrated
to Massachusetts at different times.   My great grandmother also immigrated
to States but later went back to Graciosa.

Thanks for adding my email.

Colleen Wright
searching Rosa, Cunha in Graciosa and Goncalves and Machado Silva in
Teceira.


On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva 
eliseuman...@sapo.pt wrote:

 Hi,



 Some time ago I have asked to GRACIOSA researchers to send me their email
 addresses.

 I have sent now to everyone who answered back the list of the addresses.

 Now  I think it will be easier to contact among us.



 I will update that list if someone wants to participate on it J.





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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azorean Genealogy Workshops

[Steve Wright]

Sorry - did not come through correctly!!

Colleen Wright


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  This year I am returning to California to do some workshops on genealogy
 research. See attached information for details.

  There is a limit of 10 people for each workshop.

  Please feel free to share the flyer with who you think may be interested.

  Regards,

  João Ventura
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] SS Harpalien to Hawaii - 1912

[Steve Wright]

Is PortugueseAncestry.com a part of Ancestory.com?

Colleen
Researching Machado, Silva, Goncalves, Cunha and Rosa; islands of Teceira,
Graciosa and Pico

On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 1:58 PM, p...@dholmes.com wrote:

 I had written this question for the list, but then answered myself. Look
 at the bottom for the answer:

 There is a person named Leal who might have arrived from the Azores to
 Hawaii aboard the ship Harpalien in 1912 and so I was looking to see if
 this list has been extracted by anyone and available online.

 It appears this is offered by PortugueseAncestry.com but one must be a
 member:

 http://www.portugueseancestry.com/genresources/Detail2.CFM?Hawaiianships__ID=29

 I have many passenger ship lists available on my own website that are
 free. If anyone happens to have an extracted list not already available on
 my website and wants to make it available to everyone, by all means feel
 free to send it to me for posting. Here is the link to the three from
 Hawaii I currently have:

 http://www.dholmes.com/ships.html#hawaii

 I seem to be related to this Leal family and don't yet have any idea how
 that is. This is one of the Family Finder DNA test results telling me this.

 I found this ship on Ancestry.com:

 http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=Viewr=andbid=1502iid=31073_169476-00282fn=Luiz+Manoelln=Lealst=rssrc=pid=2012371

 Thanks,

 Doug da Rocha Holmes
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pereira-Pimentel Family Silveira-Martins Family Ponta Delgada Flores

[Steve Wright]

Cheri;
When I click on the link below - it takes me to Ancestory site and has
these blue boxes that looks like from Azores Gen site.  I try to click on a
box and it goes no where.  The blue boxes keep moving around.
Any idea?

Thanks,
Colleen

On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:

 Maria B,

 It depends on if it was in the last 100 years or not.  Addresses for older
 than 100 years or less than 100 years can be found here:
 http://goo.gl/81ye1
 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pereira-Pimentel Family Silveira-Martins Family Ponta Delgada Flores

[Steve Wright]

Thank you - big help.  I will ask my husband about cookies.

Colleen

On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:

 Colleen,

 Look again. The URL takes you to the Rootsweb site (sponsored by
 Ancestry.com - and Ancestry has a banner at the top of the page).  You
 scroll just a little bit down the page and you will see the addresses.

 As to things that keep moving aroundtry clearing your cache or
 cookies??  Maybe someone with more computer expertise knows about that one.

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 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Terceira marriage records... how to find?

[Steve Wright]

I totally agree with Celeste.  He has found lots for us.

Colleen

On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 6:05 PM, celeste perry ccgran...@yahoo.com wrote:

 In my optinion, Joao Ventura is the go to person for research information
 and, in Terceira, where he lives, he has a wealth of information.
  Celeste, Hayward, CA

 Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com
*From:* Mendes Ferreira tewin...@comcast.net
 *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
 *Sent:* Monday, June 4, 2012 12:10 PM
 *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Terceira marriage records... how to find?

 How does someone in the U.S. go about finding marriage records in the
 Azores (specifically Terceira)?  The story was always that Avo came over
 alone after being married by proxy (1920-1921). I would think that would
 involve lots of paperwork but not necessarily church records.  I suspect it
 is just a story because I've found conflicting information in the Ellis
 Island database and in passenger line records.
 Is this the kind of thing you'd need to hire someone (on Terceira) to
 research? Has anyone had any success with this?

 Thank you in advance for your help and suggestions.
 Timya
 St Paul, MN

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Home Is An Island

[Steve Wright]

Thank you Lorraine.  I will keep for my records.  I have been concentrating
on my mother's side - Silva and Goncalves. Hopefully, will start paternal
side later this summer.
I will keep you posted.

Colleen

On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Lorraine designther...@cox.net wrote:

 Cunha in Graciosa search
 To Colleen Wright,
 I notice here that you are searching Cunha from Graciosa.  My family
 may be connected:  grandfather was Joao Cunha Dias, b1858, grandmother
 was Maria Jesus Cunha, b 1864, father Jayme Cunha Dias, b 1890,
 father's first wife Maria Tomas Cunha, b 1890.  All born in Barro
 Branco section of Graciosa.
 Lorraine Price

 On May 27, 6:25 pm, Ralph Sellars resj...@yahoo.com wrote:
  Hello Listers:
 
  I too have purchased this book based on the great reviews on this list.
 
  I am up to page 129 of 188, not to shabby for a non reading engineer,
 and I will agree that  it is a well done unusual book, an easy read, and a
 pleasant read.
 
  I bought the book because my mothers maiden name was  LEWIS.  Her
 grandfather Manuel, my G Grandfather Lewis, also came from FLORES, AZORES
 as did the author!  The earliest record I have found for my Manuel is as a
 member of the crew on the Whaling ship Ocmulgee docked at Edgardtown
 Harbor on Martha's Vineyard Island  off the Massachusetts coast in the 1860
 census.
 
  Starving for information on the Lewis line, and particularly on the
 Island Of Flores Azores and the reviews indicate that the book is an
 autobiographical novel, I was sort of hoping, and expecting mention of
 family members such as names, ages, locations etc, of siblings,
 aunts/uncles nieces/nephews grand parents etc that came and went around
 family gatherings etc., would be noted in the book.
 
  Unfortunately, so far, I have not found  that is  the case.  It goes
 into detail of a boys dreams, hopes, fears, joys, sorrows, anticipations,
 etc, school, teachers, church, the color of the sea, or trees, the moon ,
 the sun etc. but not about family or relatives.  He mentions his mother and
 father often , punishments, encouragements, and difference in approach
 between his mother and dad etc. but so far genealogical type of data of
 names, relationships, dates or locations are not featured. .
 
  Again,  it is a well done unusual book, an easy read, and a pleasant
 read.  It does what the reviewers have said it does.  It provides
 documentation and the development of the society at the time as seen
 through the eyes of a frank and honest person who lived it and has shared
 it.   But it would be misleading to hope or anticipate a trove of
 genealogical information.
 
  Ralph
 
  
  From: Steve Wright cswrigh...@gmail.com
  To: azores@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 1:44 PM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Home Is An Island
 
  I am also reading this book and thoroughly enjoying.  Yes, it does help
 in understanding why my grandparents left the Azores and came to America.
 My grandparents left Teceira and never returned.  I highly recommend.
 Thank you for your other book recommendation.
  I wish I had spoken with my grandparents more about how, why.  It is
 amazing to me how they left family and came to America not knowing anyone
 or the language.  What brave people they were.
  Thanks for sharing.
 
  Colleen Wright
  Researchng Silva, Goncalves from
  Teceriia and Pico and  Rosa, Cunha from Graciosa
 
  On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 5:26 AM, John Raposo marra...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  Earlier this week I started reading Home is an Island by Alfred Lewis
 (Tagus Press at UMass Dartmouth: 2012) which was published last month.
 Alfred was born in Flores (1902) and became prominant in California where
 he died in 1977. The book is an atobiographical novel and it is an absolute
 must read especially for 3rd and 4th generation Azorean Americans who are
 trying to understand why people in a tiny island would leave everything and
 everybody they ever knew and loved and sail off on whaling ships for the
 great and vast unknown, possibly never to return. Some did return many
 years later, loaded with treasure, becoming celebrities in their village;
 others returned quietly with empty pockets, pitied by someand ridiculed by
 others. Some died at sea, some just disappeared; others just never saw the
 familes left back on the island again. Their great grandchildren in America
 are trying to discover who Frank Marshall of the Wester Islands was
 before he
   became assimilated and acculturated into the melting pot and married
 their great-grandmother Mamie Murphy in California.
 
  Lewis's novel is lyrical and has a beautiful poetry like feeling about
 it.
 
  Another great read, along the same lines is Dark Stones by Dias de
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Home Is An Island

[Steve Wright]

I am also reading this book and thoroughly enjoying.  Yes, it does help in
understanding why my grandparents left the Azores and came to America. My
grandparents left Teceira and never returned.  I highly recommend.  Thank
you for your other book recommendation.
I wish I had spoken with my grandparents more about how, why.  It is
amazing to me how they left family and came to America not knowing anyone
or the language.  What brave people they were.
Thanks for sharing.

Colleen Wright
Researchng Silva, Goncalves from
Teceriia and Pico and  Rosa, Cunha from Graciosa

On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 5:26 AM, John Raposo marra...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Earlier this week I started reading Home is an Island by Alfred Lewis
 (Tagus Press at UMass Dartmouth: 2012) which was published last month.
 Alfred was born in Flores (1902) and became prominant in California where
 he died in 1977. The book is an atobiographical novel and it is an absolute
 must read especially for 3rd and 4th generation Azorean Americans who are
 trying to understand why people in a tiny island would leave everything and
 everybody they ever knew and loved and sail off on whaling ships for the
 great and vast unknown, possibly never to return. Some did return many
 years later, loaded with treasure, becoming celebrities in their village;
 others returned quietly with empty pockets, pitied by someand ridiculed by
 others. Some died at sea, some just disappeared; others just never saw the
 familes left back on the island again. Their great grandchildren in America
 are trying to discover who Frank Marshall of the Wester Islands was
 before he became assimilated and acculturated into the melting pot
 and married their great-grandmother Mamie Murphy in California.

 Lewis's novel is lyrical and has a beautiful poetry like feeling about it.

 Another great read, along the same lines is Dark Stones by Dias de Melo
 (from Pico) published by Gavea Brown:1988

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Concelho da Praia, Terceira

[Steve Wright]

How do you get to the CCA website?  What is the best research website for
the Azores?

Thanks,
Colleen

On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 6:00 PM, rcap...@redshift.com wrote:

 Great! I need several villages in the Concelho da Praia so I hope they get
 there soon! RC

 Rosemarie,
 
  Hooray!! One of my great aunts was baptized in this village. Although I
 do
  have her baptism record, I think it's great these records are going
  online.
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] norte grande, são jorge

[Steve Wright]

Thanks for the information.  I have just began my research for my
ancestors.  I haven't been able to get much information.
So far I know that my grandfather Joseph (Jose)  Machado Silva was born
about 1894 on Terceira and from Angra or San Mateus.  His parents were
Antonio Machado Silva and Maria Luz.  He and my grandmother came to the
United States in 1921.

My grandmother was Maria Augusta Gonsalves Silva born Jan. 14, 1897 in San
Mateus.  Her mother's name may have been Maria Clementina.

That is all the information I have right now.  I would love to know how I
can find out more.  I may be traveling to Teceira in August, 2012.  Is it
best to go directly to the churches for information.

I am also told that my grandmother's father may have been left at an
orphanage on a table.  Any information about how orphanages were run would
be appreciated.

Thanks again,

Colleen Wright




On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 2:50 PM, joao ventura hero...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Dear Listers,

  I want to inform that I have completed the genealogy of Norte Grande.
 Those interested in records from this village please contact me privatly.

  Other villages completed:

  In São Jorge Island: Norte Pequeno and Ribeira Seca

 In Terceira Island: Ribeirinha, Feteira, Porto Judeu, São Sebastião, Fonte
 do Bastardo, Cabo da Praia, Fontinhas, Agualva, Quatro Ribeiras, and São
 Mateus.

 This research covers the records from 1911 back to the early records of
 the village, plus all villages are in a single database, which means that
 the information is crossed.

  Good research to all!

  João Ventura
  Terceira Island

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