Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Question re: Searching Passportes

2019-07-14 Thread jomig...@sbcglobal.net
Thank you, Margaret,

Yes, I did mean Passenger #369 - my input of #309 was a typo.  Thank you 
for your sharp eye in noticing his brother Manuel as #370.  Originally I 
was not aware the wife's name and age were shown on the same line.

The column that states Occupation (re: Passport list 1882) I cannot make 
out the letters to arrive at the Portuguese word for their occupations, so 
that I can translate from there.  I would appreciate any help from anyone 
who can.

Thanks to all,
Josephine


On Wednesday, July 10, 2019 at 7:14:07 PM UTC-7, Mara wrote:
>
> Yes, that’s the right date.  April 1st 1882.  Passenger # 369 he’s 
> travelling with his wife.  Also note his brother Manuel is # 370, also 
> travelling with wife and son.
>
>  
>
> Margaret
>
>  
>
> *From: *jomi...@sbcglobal.net 
> *Sent: *July 10, 2019 9:59 PM
> *To: *Azores Genealogy 
> *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Question re: Searching Passportes
>
>  
>
> Thanks, I understand.  I'm quite sure I located Jacinto Miguel on page 
> 0094, passenger number 309.  Am I reading the date correctly, as 1882 April 
> 1 ??
>
> On Wednesday, July 10, 2019 at 1:48:35 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Josephine,
>
>  
>
> A group of villages (freguesias) belong to a council (concelho - similar 
> to a U.S. County).
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>  
>
>  
>
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 1:47 PM JOSEPHINE MIGUEL  
> wrote:
>
> Cheri,
>
> Got it...thank you.  What does "council" mean?
>
>  
>
> Josephine
>
>  
>
> On Tuesday, July 9, 2019, 05:25:51 PM PDT, Cheri Mello  
> wrote: 
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>  
>
> Try this: 
> https://sites.rootsweb.com/~azrwgw/research-aids-a---l/finding-your-portuguese/finding-your-portuguese-8.html
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>  
>
>  
>
> On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 5:23 PM jomi...@sbcglobal.net <
> jomi...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> I have been doing a search in Passportes - Ponta Delgada.  Is there 
> somewhere to find what the Headings at the top of each column say (in 
> English)?
>
>  
>
> Thanks,
>
> Josephine Miguel
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Question re: Searching Passportes

2019-07-11 Thread jomig...@sbcglobal.net
Then that answer brings up a couple more questions.  Is his wife counted on 
the same line, or is she signed in with her own Passenger Number?  I looked 
through several pages and never found her name, nor did I see her name 
mentioned on his line. I was able to make out all information up to 
Occupation, Destination, etc.  Next, what does the date April 1st 
indicate?  I had prior information that their ship Monarch's sailing date 
was March 28, 1882.

Thank you so much for your help.
-Josephine Miguel

On Wednesday, July 10, 2019 at 7:14:07 PM UTC-7, Mara wrote:
>
> Yes, that’s the right date.  April 1st 1882.  Passenger # 369 he’s 
> travelling with his wife.  Also note his brother Manuel is # 370, also 
> travelling with wife and son.
>
>  
>
> Margaret
>
>  
>
> *From: *jomi...@sbcglobal.net 
> *Sent: *July 10, 2019 9:59 PM
> *To: *Azores Genealogy 
> *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Question re: Searching Passportes
>
>  
>
> Thanks, I understand.  I'm quite sure I located Jacinto Miguel on page 
> 0094, passenger number 309.  Am I reading the date correctly, as 1882 April 
> 1 ??
>
> On Wednesday, July 10, 2019 at 1:48:35 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Josephine,
>
>  
>
> A group of villages (freguesias) belong to a council (concelho - similar 
> to a U.S. County).
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>  
>
>  
>
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 1:47 PM JOSEPHINE MIGUEL  
> wrote:
>
> Cheri,
>
> Got it...thank you.  What does "council" mean?
>
>  
>
> Josephine
>
>  
>
> On Tuesday, July 9, 2019, 05:25:51 PM PDT, Cheri Mello  
> wrote: 
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Try this: 
> https://sites.rootsweb.com/~azrwgw/research-aids-a---l/finding-your-portuguese/finding-your-portuguese-8.html
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>  
>
>  
>
> On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 5:23 PM jomi...@sbcglobal.net <
> jomi...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> I have been doing a search in Passportes - Ponta Delgada.  Is there 
> somewhere to find what the Headings at the top of each column say (in 
> English)?
>
>  
>
> Thanks,
>
> Josephine Miguel
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Question re: Searching Passportes

2019-07-10 Thread jomig...@sbcglobal.net
Thanks, I understand.  I'm quite sure I located Jacinto Miguel on page 
0094, passenger number 309.  Am I reading the date correctly, as 1882 April 
1 ??

On Wednesday, July 10, 2019 at 1:48:35 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Josephine,
>
> A group of villages (freguesias) belong to a council (concelho - similar 
> to a U.S. County).
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 1:47 PM JOSEPHINE MIGUEL  > wrote:
>
>> Cheri,
>> Got it...thank you.  What does "council" mean?
>>
>> Josephine
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 9, 2019, 05:25:51 PM PDT, Cheri Mello > > wrote: 
>>
>>
>> Try this: 
>> https://sites.rootsweb.com/~azrwgw/research-aids-a---l/finding-your-portuguese/finding-your-portuguese-8.html
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 5:23 PM jomi...@sbcglobal.net  <
>> jomi...@sbcglobal.net > wrote:
>>
>> I have been doing a search in Passportes - Ponta Delgada.  Is there 
>> somewhere to find what the Headings at the top of each column say (in 
>> English)?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Josephine Miguel
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Question re: Searching Passportes

2019-07-10 Thread jomig...@sbcglobal.net
Thank you Rosemarie. That helps it make sense.

On Wednesday, July 10, 2019 at 2:25:29 PM UTC-7, rcapodc wrote:
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> Josephine, Councelho is like our County in the US. 
>
> Rosemarie 
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> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
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> On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 1:47 PM JOSEPHINE MIGUEL  > wrote:
>
>> Cheri,
>> Got it...thank you.  What does "council" mean?
>>
>> Josephine
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 9, 2019, 05:25:51 PM PDT, Cheri Mello > > wrote: 
>>
>>
>> Try this: 
>> https://sites.rootsweb.com/~azrwgw/research-aids-a---l/finding-your-portuguese/finding-your-portuguese-8.html
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 5:23 PM jomi...@sbcglobal.net  <
>> jomi...@sbcglobal.net > wrote:
>>
>> I have been doing a search in Passportes - Ponta Delgada.  Is there 
>> somewhere to find what the Headings at the top of each column say (in 
>> English)?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Josephine Miguel
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[AZORES-Genealogy] New Question re: Searching Passportes

2019-07-09 Thread jomig...@sbcglobal.net
I have been doing a search in Passportes - Ponta Delgada.  Is there 
somewhere to find what the Headings at the top of each column say (in 
English)?

Thanks,
Josephine Miguel

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Question re:Portuguese surname traditions, going back to my children's great-grandfather.

2019-06-29 Thread jomig...@sbcglobal.net
Their great-grandfather sailed from the Azores under a name different from 
the name used after immigrating to Hawaii in 1882. 
Any input or comments to help give a clearer understanding would be greatly 
appreciated.

-Josephine Miguel


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