Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage certificate.

[Rob Whaite]

Yes,right!! Cheri

On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 3:05 AM Cheri Mello  wrote:

> The 2nd marriage on the page #1047, is what I am looking at, right?
>
> The groom is the son of Antonio Josephs and Mary Antonio. So over there it
> would be Antonio Jose and Maria Antonio. More likely she is Maria ___.
> It's 1868 and in that time period, women did not have surnames, so the
> groom may be taking his best guess as to what her "maiden name" may be.
> I've seen Antonio as a surname here or there.
>
> Joaquim as a surname does happen, but it's kinda like seeing the surname
> Antonio. Both are given names and for some reason, the family tacked on
> that given name as a surname to differentiate themselves.
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 8:15 AM Rob Whaite  wrote:
>
>> Hi Cheri
>>
>> I attach another Australian Marriage certificate also from Victoria.
>>
>> The one I refer to is the marriage of Antonio Josephs and Eliza Smith in
>> 1868.
>>
>> I think his real surname was Joaquime as he was living in the same
>> general area as three of his cousins who all came out here together and
>> that was the name shown on the passenger list.
>>
>> When you look at the entries for the names of his parents I find it
>> strange that his mother's surname was the same as his father's christian
>> name?
>>
>> It appears to me that he made it all up as he went along in his attempt
>> to anglicize his surname?
>>
>> Any ideas would be appreciated
>>
>> Rob
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage certificate.

[Rob Whaite]

Thanks heaps Nancy

On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 4:20 AM Nancy Couto  wrote:

> Dear Rob,
>
> I found a listing for Jose Antonio (b. before 1795) married to Antonia
> Maria on the Cabral Genealogies website. On this site people are listed
> last name first, with no punctuation after the surname. So these people are
> Antonio Jose married to Maria Antonia. The “Antonia” could be a typo or a
> misreading, or the name could have been spelled with an “a” at the end. I
> haven’t checked this out, but the owner of this website has proven to be
> reliable and her information comes from church records. The time frame
> could work out, since Antonio Josephs (the son) was 40 at the time of his
> marriage in 1868.
>
> http://www.cabralgenealogy.org/getperson.php?personID=I570=Cabral
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Nancy
>
>
> On Jan 27, 2020, at 4:00 AM, Rob Whaite  wrote:
>
> Hi Cheri
>
> I attach another Australian Marriage certificate also from Victoria.
>
> The one I refer to is the marriage of Antonio Josephs and Eliza Smith in
> 1868.
>
> I think his real surname was Joaquime as he was living in the same general
> area as three of his cousins who all came out here together and that was
> the name shown on the passenger list.
>
> When you look at the entries for the names of his parents I find it
> strange that his mother's surname was the same as his father's christian
> name?
>
> It appears to me that he made it all up as he went along in his attempt to
> anglicize his surname?
>
> Any ideas would be appreciated
>
> Rob
>
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage certificate.

[Nancy Couto]

Dear Rob,

I found a listing for Jose Antonio (b. before 1795) married to Antonia Maria on 
the Cabral Genealogies website. On this site people are listed last name first, 
with no punctuation after the surname. So these people are Antonio Jose married 
to Maria Antonia. The “Antonia” could be a typo or a misreading, or the name 
could have been spelled with an “a” at the end. I haven’t checked this out, but 
the owner of this website has proven to be reliable and her information comes 
from church records. The time frame could work out, since Antonio Josephs (the 
son) was 40 at the time of his marriage in 1868. 

http://www.cabralgenealogy.org/getperson.php?personID=I570=Cabral

Hope this helps.

Nancy 


> On Jan 27, 2020, at 4:00 AM, Rob Whaite  wrote:
> 
> Hi Cheri
> 
> I attach another Australian Marriage certificate also from Victoria.
> 
> The one I refer to is the marriage of Antonio Josephs and Eliza Smith in 1868.
> 
> I think his real surname was Joaquime as he was living in the same general 
> area as three of his cousins who all came out here together and that was the 
> name shown on the passenger list.
> 
> When you look at the entries for the names of his parents I find it strange 
> that his mother's surname was the same as his father's christian name?
> 
> It appears to me that he made it all up as he went along in his attempt to 
> anglicize his surname?
> 
> Any ideas would be appreciated
> 
> Rob
> 
> 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage certificate.

[Cheri Mello]

The 2nd marriage on the page #1047, is what I am looking at, right?

The groom is the son of Antonio Josephs and Mary Antonio. So over there it
would be Antonio Jose and Maria Antonio. More likely she is Maria ___.
It's 1868 and in that time period, women did not have surnames, so the
groom may be taking his best guess as to what her "maiden name" may be.
I've seen Antonio as a surname here or there.

Joaquim as a surname does happen, but it's kinda like seeing the surname
Antonio. Both are given names and for some reason, the family tacked on
that given name as a surname to differentiate themselves.
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 8:15 AM Rob Whaite  wrote:

> Hi Cheri
>
> I attach another Australian Marriage certificate also from Victoria.
>
> The one I refer to is the marriage of Antonio Josephs and Eliza Smith in
> 1868.
>
> I think his real surname was Joaquime as he was living in the same general
> area as three of his cousins who all came out here together and that was
> the name shown on the passenger list.
>
> When you look at the entries for the names of his parents I find it
> strange that his mother's surname was the same as his father's christian
> name?
>
> It appears to me that he made it all up as he went along in his attempt to
> anglicize his surname?
>
> Any ideas would be appreciated
>
> Rob
>
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] marriage certificate

[Cheri Mello]

Joe M,

The New England states (including RI) file their vital records on the town
level.  A Google search of providence marriages turned this up:
http://www.providenceri.com/efile/59

It came off of this main Web site:
http://www.providenceri.com/vital-statistics/index-es.html

Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] marriage certificate

[Joe Matias]

thanx Cheri!


On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:

 Joe M,

 The New England states (including RI) file their vital records on the town
 level.  A Google search of providence marriages turned this up:
 http://www.providenceri.com/efile/59

 It came off of this main Web site:
 http://www.providenceri.com/vital-statistics/index-es.html

 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
 Tainhas, Achada

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] marriage certificate

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Vital records for the time period are kept at the state level in Rhode
Island State Department of Health, Division of Vital Statistics.

 

 

Rick

 

Richard Francis Pimentel

Spring, TX

Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire 

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

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Can anyone help me obtain the original marriage certificate from this
attachment.Thanx joe matias 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] marriage certificate

[Marilyn Thompson]

A film ( film # 2209075) could be ordered from any Family History Center in
your area.


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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] marriage certificate

[Judi Phillips]

You can write to the RI Archives, 337 Westminster Street, Providence, RI 02903, 
 Give them the names and dates, place and parents names if you have them.  They 
will send you the record and a bill, approx $1.50 per page.  If it is not what 
you want, it should name the church and you can write them.  The number for the 
archives is 401/222-2353.  They are very helpful and will answer your 
questions, but want the request in writing.Good luckJudi
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Vital records for the time period are kept at the state level in Rhode Island 
State Department of Health, Division of Vital Statistics.  Rick Richard Francis 
PimentelSpring, TXFormerly of Epping, New Hampshire  Researching, Riberia 
Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta Delgada,  Sao Miguel, 
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