RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Patron Saints

2017-07-13 Thread doreencaetano 
I was told by some very traditional old Catholics that the when a couple 
married they too also declared a patron saint. I wonder if that is how we 
became the Caetano do Canto from Saint Caetano, the patron saint of bread, 
farmers, gamblers and the unemployed.

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From: Rosemarie Capodicci
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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Patron Saints

Wow, thanks Mary, that is good to know since my people worshiped at Nossa 
Senhora das Neves too! 



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Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 6:58 AM, Mary Bordi  wrote:
My great grandmother was Maria. Her religious name, which she still signed 
occasionally after coming to the US and marrying, was Maria das Neves. She was 
from Norte Grande, Sao Jorge where the parish church is Nossa Senhora das 
Neves. 

I actually found a medal of "Our Lady of the Snows" on eBay. 

Mary

On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 12:05 AM 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy 
 wrote:
Just an observation…if you want to get medals to represent your grandparents 
ancestry….I think what Margaret said is meaningful about the patron saints for 
the parishes….

My ancestry is from mostly Castelo Branco Faial…..My grandmother, had in her 
belongings a little statue of St Catarina and then, just recently, I watched 
over a 94 year old relative who passed away and her father was born also in 
Castelo Branco. In my relative’s wallet was a very old Holy Card of Sta 
Catarina. So it is my deduction that these parish saints were very meaningful 
to our people.

Susan Vargas Murphy

On Jul 12, 2017, at 8:27 PM, Tish M  wrote:

Very nice explanation. I do enjoy learning about the culture of the Islands and 
the Catholic Church which is so intertwined with one another.
 

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 7:44 PM, Margaret Vicente  
wrote:
If I may, and to clarify - because an island bears the name of a Saint it does 
not mean it is "The" patron saint for that island.  Sao Miguel is the patron 
saint in the parish that venerates him which is the Matrix of Vila Franca do 
Campo.  

Sao Miguel, Santa Maria and Sao Jorge are island names.

Regarding patron saints for Faial.

There's no St John of Caldeira.  Following is a list of all the patron saints 
for that island

• Senhor Santo Cristo (Holy Christ) -  Paia do Almoxarife (February 1st)
• São João Baptista,[St. John Baptist] patron of the nobility of the island 
(June 24th)
•  Divino Espírito Santo [Divine Holy Spirity) (across all islands)
• Nossa Senhora das Angústias [Our Lady of Anguish]  - Semana do Mar
•  Nossa Senhora da Graça [Our Lady of Grace] - Praia do Almoxarife
•  Nossa Senhora de Lurdes [Our Lady of Lurdes] -  Feteira, 
•  Santa Cecília, in te Matriz, [ Sain Cecilia] patron of the muscialns (25th 
of Novembro)
• Santa Catarina de Alexandria [Sain Catherine of Alenxadria] -  Castelo Branco
• Nossa Senhora da Conceição [Our lady of Conception] (8th of December) (across 
all islands)
The list is to the credit of Ilha do Faial -  Memória Portuguesa

http://terrasdeportugal.wikidot.com/ilha-do-faial

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 7:17 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
Yes. That is why I mentioned St. John the Baptist's feast day is June 24rh, 
same as St. John Caldeira.
On Jul 12, 2017 4:15 PM, "Sami"  wrote:
Thanks for the replies. I'm wondering which "St. John" that Sao Joao da 
Caldeira is? I cannot find anything about this saint. Is he the same as St. 
John the Baptist, or Saint John of God? 

On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 2:29:19 PM UTC-5, Sami wrote:
I was just wondering if there were any "official" patron saints of the island 
of Faial, and of Capelo and Feteira specifically?  I would like to get a 
medal/s to wear in remembrance of my great-grandparents. Thanks in advance for 
any answers! :)

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Patron Saints

2017-07-13 Thread Rosemarie Capodicci 
Wow, thanks Mary, that is good to know since my people worshiped at Nossa
Senhora das Neves too!


Rosemarie
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Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 6:58 AM, Mary Bordi  wrote:

> My great grandmother was Maria. Her religious name, which she still signed
> occasionally after coming to the US and marrying, was Maria das Neves. She
> was from Norte Grande, Sao Jorge where the parish church is Nossa Senhora
> das Neves.
>
> I actually found a medal of "Our Lady of the Snows" on eBay.
>
> Mary
>
> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 12:05 AM 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Just an observation…if you want to get medals to represent your
>> grandparents ancestry….I think what Margaret said is meaningful about the
>> patron saints for the parishes….
>>
>> My ancestry is from mostly Castelo Branco Faial…..My grandmother, had in
>> her belongings a little statue of St Catarina and then, just recently, I
>> watched over a 94 year old relative who passed away and her father was born
>> also in Castelo Branco. In my relative’s wallet was a very old Holy Card of
>> Sta Catarina. So it is my deduction that these parish saints were very
>> meaningful to our people.
>>
>> Susan Vargas Murphy
>>
>> On Jul 12, 2017, at 8:27 PM, Tish M  wrote:
>>
>> Very nice explanation. I do enjoy learning about the culture of the
>> Islands and the Catholic Church which is so intertwined with one another.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 7:44 PM, Margaret Vicente <
>> margaretvice...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> If I may, and to clarify - because an island bears the name of a Saint
>>> it does not mean it is "The" patron saint for that island.  Sao Miguel is
>>> the patron saint in the parish that venerates him which is the Matrix of
>>> Vila Franca do Campo.
>>>
>>> Sao Miguel, Santa Maria and Sao Jorge are island names.
>>>
>>> Regarding patron saints for Faial.
>>>
>>> There's no St John of Caldeira.  Following is a list of all the patron
>>> saints for that island
>>>
>>>
>>>- Senhor Santo Cristo (Holy Christ) -  Paia do Almoxarife (February
>>>1st)
>>>- São João Baptista,[St. John Baptist] patron of the nobility of the
>>>island (June 24th)
>>>-  Divino Espírito Santo [Divine Holy Spirity) (across all islands)
>>>- Nossa Senhora das Angústias [Our Lady of Anguish]  - Semana do Mar
>>>-  Nossa Senhora da Graça [Our Lady of Grace] - Praia do Almoxarife
>>>-  Nossa Senhora de Lurdes [Our Lady of Lurdes] -  Feteira,
>>>-  Santa Cecília, in te Matriz, [ Sain Cecilia] patron of the
>>>muscialns (25th of Novembro)
>>>- Santa Catarina de Alexandria [Sain Catherine of Alenxadria] -
>>> Castelo Branco
>>>- Nossa Senhora da Conceição [Our lady of Conception] (8th of
>>>December) (across all islands)
>>>
>>> The list is to the credit of Ilha do Faial -  Memória Portuguesa
>>> 
>>>
>>> http://terrasdeportugal.wikidot.com/ilha-do-faial
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 7:17 PM, Cheri Mello 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Yes. That is why I mentioned St. John the Baptist's feast day is June
 24rh, same as St. John Caldeira.
 On Jul 12, 2017 4:15 PM, "Sami"  wrote:

> Thanks for the replies. I'm wondering which "St. John" that Sao Joao
> da Caldeira is? I cannot find anything about this saint. Is he the same as
> St. John the Baptist, or Saint John of God?
>
> On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 2:29:19 PM UTC-5, Sami wrote:
>>
>> I was just wondering if there were any "official" patron saints of
>> the island of Faial, and of Capelo and Feteira specifically?  I would 
>> like
>> to get a medal/s to wear in remembrance of my great-grandparents. Thanks 
>> in
>> advance for any answers! :)
>>
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Patron Saints

2017-07-13 Thread Mary Bordi 
My great grandmother was Maria. Her religious name, which she still signed
occasionally after coming to the US and marrying, was Maria das Neves. She
was from Norte Grande, Sao Jorge where the parish church is Nossa Senhora
das Neves.

I actually found a medal of "Our Lady of the Snows" on eBay.

Mary

On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 12:05 AM 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Just an observation…if you want to get medals to represent your
> grandparents ancestry….I think what Margaret said is meaningful about the
> patron saints for the parishes….
>
> My ancestry is from mostly Castelo Branco Faial…..My grandmother, had in
> her belongings a little statue of St Catarina and then, just recently, I
> watched over a 94 year old relative who passed away and her father was born
> also in Castelo Branco. In my relative’s wallet was a very old Holy Card of
> Sta Catarina. So it is my deduction that these parish saints were very
> meaningful to our people.
>
> Susan Vargas Murphy
>
> On Jul 12, 2017, at 8:27 PM, Tish M  wrote:
>
> Very nice explanation. I do enjoy learning about the culture of the
> Islands and the Catholic Church which is so intertwined with one another.
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 7:44 PM, Margaret Vicente <
> margaretvice...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> If I may, and to clarify - because an island bears the name of a Saint it
>> does not mean it is "The" patron saint for that island.  Sao Miguel is the
>> patron saint in the parish that venerates him which is the Matrix of Vila
>> Franca do Campo.
>>
>> Sao Miguel, Santa Maria and Sao Jorge are island names.
>>
>> Regarding patron saints for Faial.
>>
>> There's no St John of Caldeira.  Following is a list of all the patron
>> saints for that island
>>
>>
>>- Senhor Santo Cristo (Holy Christ) -  Paia do Almoxarife (February
>>1st)
>>- São João Baptista,[St. John Baptist] patron of the nobility of the
>>island (June 24th)
>>-  Divino Espírito Santo [Divine Holy Spirity) (across all islands)
>>- Nossa Senhora das Angústias [Our Lady of Anguish]  - Semana do Mar
>>-  Nossa Senhora da Graça [Our Lady of Grace] - Praia do Almoxarife
>>-  Nossa Senhora de Lurdes [Our Lady of Lurdes] -  Feteira,
>>-  Santa Cecília, in te Matriz, [ Sain Cecilia] patron of the
>>muscialns (25th of Novembro)
>>- Santa Catarina de Alexandria [Sain Catherine of Alenxadria] -
>> Castelo Branco
>>- Nossa Senhora da Conceição [Our lady of Conception] (8th of
>>December) (across all islands)
>>
>> The list is to the credit of Ilha do Faial -  Memória Portuguesa
>> 
>>
>> http://terrasdeportugal.wikidot.com/ilha-do-faial
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 7:17 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>
>>> Yes. That is why I mentioned St. John the Baptist's feast day is June
>>> 24rh, same as St. John Caldeira.
>>> On Jul 12, 2017 4:15 PM, "Sami"  wrote:
>>>
 Thanks for the replies. I'm wondering which "St. John" that Sao Joao da
 Caldeira is? I cannot find anything about this saint. Is he the same as St.
 John the Baptist, or Saint John of God?

 On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 2:29:19 PM UTC-5, Sami wrote:
>
> I was just wondering if there were any "official" patron saints of the
> island of Faial, and of Capelo and Feteira specifically?  I would like to
> get a medal/s to wear in remembrance of my great-grandparents. Thanks in
> advance for any answers! :)
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Patron Saints

2017-07-13 Thread 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy 
Just an observation…if you want to get medals to represent your grandparents 
ancestry….I think what Margaret said is meaningful about the patron saints for 
the parishes….

My ancestry is from mostly Castelo Branco Faial…..My grandmother, had in her 
belongings a little statue of St Catarina and then, just recently, I watched 
over a 94 year old relative who passed away and her father was born also in 
Castelo Branco. In my relative’s wallet was a very old Holy Card of Sta 
Catarina. So it is my deduction that these parish saints were very meaningful 
to our people.

Susan Vargas Murphy
> On Jul 12, 2017, at 8:27 PM, Tish M  wrote:
> 
> Very nice explanation. I do enjoy learning about the culture of the Islands 
> and the Catholic Church which is so intertwined with one another.
>  
> 
> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 7:44 PM, Margaret Vicente  > wrote:
> If I may, and to clarify - because an island bears the name of a Saint it 
> does not mean it is "The" patron saint for that island.  Sao Miguel is the 
> patron saint in the parish that venerates him which is the Matrix of Vila 
> Franca do Campo.  
> 
> Sao Miguel, Santa Maria and Sao Jorge are island names.
> 
> Regarding patron saints for Faial.
> 
> There's no St John of Caldeira.  Following is a list of all the patron saints 
> for that island
> 
> Senhor Santo Cristo (Holy Christ) -  Paia do Almoxarife (February 1st)
> São João Baptista,[St. John Baptist] patron of the nobility of the island 
> (June 24th)
>  Divino Espírito Santo [Divine Holy Spirity) (across all islands)
> Nossa Senhora das Angústias [Our Lady of Anguish]  - Semana do Mar
>  Nossa Senhora da Graça [Our Lady of Grace] - Praia do Almoxarife
>  Nossa Senhora de Lurdes [Our Lady of Lurdes] -  Feteira, 
>  Santa Cecília, in te Matriz, [ Sain Cecilia] patron of the muscialns (25th 
> of Novembro)
> Santa Catarina de Alexandria [Sain Catherine of Alenxadria] -  Castelo Branco
> Nossa Senhora da Conceição [Our lady of Conception] (8th of December) (across 
> all islands)
> The list is to the credit of Ilha do Faial -  Memória Portuguesa 
> 
> 
> http://terrasdeportugal.wikidot.com/ilha-do-faial 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 7:17 PM, Cheri Mello  > wrote:
> Yes. That is why I mentioned St. John the Baptist's feast day is June 24rh, 
> same as St. John Caldeira.
> 
> On Jul 12, 2017 4:15 PM, "Sami"  > wrote:
> Thanks for the replies. I'm wondering which "St. John" that Sao Joao da 
> Caldeira is? I cannot find anything about this saint. Is he the same as St. 
> John the Baptist, or Saint John of God? 
> 
> On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 2:29:19 PM UTC-5, Sami wrote:
> I was just wondering if there were any "official" patron saints of the island 
> of Faial, and of Capelo and Feteira specifically?  I would like to get a 
> medal/s to wear in remembrance of my great-grandparents. Thanks in advance 
> for any answers! :)
> 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Patron Saints

2017-07-12 Thread Cheri Mello 
Sao Joao de Caldeira? I know St. John the Baptist's feast day is June 24th.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 12:44 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel <
rickredle...@gmail.com> wrote:

> *https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faial_Island
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faial_Island> Scroll down to Culture –
> Festivities   and you will find St John is the patron Saint of Faial*
>
>
>
> *Rick*
>
>
>
> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Cheri Mello
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 12, 2017 3:33 PM
> *To:* Azores Genealogy
> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Patron Saints
>
>
>
> Santa Maria island uses St. Mary. Sao Miguel island uses St. Michael (the
> archangel?). Sao Jorge uses St. George (the dragonslayer? Don't know which
> St. George).
>
> Other than that, I think it's usually whatever the church is. So my guess
> is Capelo uses Santa Ana and Feteira uses the Divino Espirito Santo. Again,
> just my guess.
>
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 11:52 AM, Sami  wrote:
>
> I was just wondering if there were any "official" patron saints of the
> island of Faial, and of Capelo and Feteira specifically?  I would like to
> get a medal/s to wear in remembrance of my great-grandparents. Thanks in
> advance for any answers! :)
>
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Patron Saints

2017-07-12 Thread Richard Francis Pimentel 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faial_Island Scroll down to Culture – Festivities 
  and you will find St John is the patron Saint of Faial

 

Rick

 

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Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 3:33 PM
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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Patron Saints

 

Santa Maria island uses St. Mary. Sao Miguel island uses St. Michael (the 
archangel?). Sao Jorge uses St. George (the dragonslayer? Don't know which St. 
George).

Other than that, I think it's usually whatever the church is. So my guess is 
Capelo uses Santa Ana and Feteira uses the Divino Espirito Santo. Again, just 
my guess.




Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

 

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 11:52 AM, Sami  wrote:

I was just wondering if there were any "official" patron saints of the island 
of Faial, and of Capelo and Feteira specifically?  I would like to get a 
medal/s to wear in remembrance of my great-grandparents. Thanks in advance for 
any answers! :)

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Patron Saints

2017-07-12 Thread Cheri Mello 
Santa Maria island uses St. Mary. Sao Miguel island uses St. Michael (the
archangel?). Sao Jorge uses St. George (the dragonslayer? Don't know which
St. George).

Other than that, I think it's usually whatever the church is. So my guess
is Capelo uses Santa Ana and Feteira uses the Divino Espirito Santo. Again,
just my guess.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 11:52 AM, Sami  wrote:

> I was just wondering if there were any "official" patron saints of the
> island of Faial, and of Capelo and Feteira specifically?  I would like to
> get a medal/s to wear in remembrance of my great-grandparents. Thanks in
> advance for any answers! :)
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Patron Saints

2017-07-12 Thread Sami 
I was just wondering if there were any "official" patron saints of the 
island of Faial, and of Capelo and Feteira specifically?  I would like to 
get a medal/s to wear in remembrance of my great-grandparents. Thanks in 
advance for any answers! :)

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