Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Poor's Asylum, Matriz, Faial

2019-05-03 Thread JesseAndDeborah Mendonca
This has been so interesting.   I had no idea that the Catholic Church had
such a well-used system for dealing with foundlings.

The google translate option makes this amazing!   I’m off to Joao Ventura’s
Azores Workshop this weekend and it will be a big help. (Cheri, if that
grandbaby arrives this weekend, I am in such trouble, lol.)

Debbie



On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 3:42 PM Liz Migliori  wrote:

> Thank you
>
> Sent from my iPhones amazing!
>

> On May 2, 2019, at 3:19 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
> Hi Liz,
>
> No, the expostos (exposto - male or exposta-female) were the foundlings or
> abandoned babies that were left at the roda at the CHURCH. You open the
> small door on the church wall to place your offering (or baby) and spin it
> around so the baby (or offering) goes inside the church. The one I saw last
> summer had a door of about 18 inches high by about 12 inches wide. I didn't
> measure it.
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
> On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 3:14 PM Liz Migliori  wrote:
>
>> Was this also the place where the Esposta makes Rhoda was
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 2, 2019, at 1:30 PM, saudade...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Thank you ladies! So, if I'm reading correctly, this place eventually
>> become the Walter Bensaude Hospital and was such when my great-grandfather
>> was there in 1948?
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Poor's Asylum, Matriz, Faial

2019-05-02 Thread Liz Migliori
Thank you

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 2, 2019, at 3:19 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
> 
> Hi Liz,
> 
> No, the expostos (exposto - male or exposta-female) were the foundlings or 
> abandoned babies that were left at the roda at the CHURCH. You open the small 
> door on the church wall to place your offering (or baby) and spin it around 
> so the baby (or offering) goes inside the church. The one I saw last summer 
> had a door of about 18 inches high by about 12 inches wide. I didn't measure 
> it. 
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
> 
> 
>> On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 3:14 PM Liz Migliori  wrote:
>> Was this also the place where the Esposta makes Rhoda was
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 2, 2019, at 1:30 PM, saudade...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thank you ladies! So, if I'm reading correctly, this place eventually 
>>> become the Walter Bensaude Hospital and was such when my great-grandfather 
>>> was there in 1948? 
>>> 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Poor's Asylum, Matriz, Faial

2019-05-02 Thread Cheri Mello
Hi Liz,

No, the expostos (exposto - male or exposta-female) were the foundlings or
abandoned babies that were left at the roda at the CHURCH. You open the
small door on the church wall to place your offering (or baby) and spin it
around so the baby (or offering) goes inside the church. The one I saw last
summer had a door of about 18 inches high by about 12 inches wide. I didn't
measure it.
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 3:14 PM Liz Migliori  wrote:

> Was this also the place where the Esposta makes Rhoda was
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 2, 2019, at 1:30 PM, saudade...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Thank you ladies! So, if I'm reading correctly, this place eventually
> become the Walter Bensaude Hospital and was such when my great-grandfather
> was there in 1948?
>
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Poor's Asylum, Matriz, Faial

2019-05-02 Thread Liz Migliori
Was this also the place where the Esposta makes Rhoda was

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 2, 2019, at 1:30 PM, saudade...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Thank you ladies! So, if I'm reading correctly, this place eventually become 
> the Walter Bensaude Hospital and was such when my great-grandfather was there 
> in 1948? 
> 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Poor's Asylum, Matriz, Faial

2019-05-02 Thread saudade064
Thank you ladies! So, if I'm reading correctly, this place eventually 
become the Walter Bensaude Hospital and was such when my great-grandfather 
was there in 1948? 


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Poor's Asylum, Matriz, Faial

2019-05-02 Thread Ângela Loura
It was what today is the Santa Casa da Misericórdia, like Cheri said. In
this case, here's the convent where it was:
https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convento_de_S%C3%A3o_Francisco_(Horta)

Cheri Mello  escreveu no dia quinta, 2/05/2019 à(s)
21:14:

> Today, the are the Casa de Misericórdia.
> Do an Internet search for: "Asilo de Mendicidade" Horta
> If you are using Google, you can use the "Translate this page" link to
> help you read.
> Good luck,
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
> On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 1:11 PM  wrote:
>
>> If I have it right, it says "Asilo de Mendicidade, da freguesia de
>> Matriz".
>>
>> On Thursday, May 2, 2019 at 1:42:34 PM UTC-6, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>>
>>> Saudade064,
>>>
>>> I didn't know that the Azores had the poor asylums. I know about the
>>> American ones. What does it say for "poor asylum" on the document in the
>>> Portuguese language?
>>>
>>> Thanks, Cheri
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 12:23 PM  wrote:
>>>
 I was able to get a death certificate for my great-grandfather who came
 to California but went back to Faial, his island of birth sometime in the
 1930s. In the translation of the record, I discovered he died in a place
 called "Poor's Asylum" in 1948, which was located in Matriz, Faial. I
 cannot find anything online about this place. I'd like to know it's history
 and see what it looked like. I'm wondering if it was part of a church?
 Thanks in advance to anyone who can shed some light on this place!

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Poor's Asylum, Matriz, Faial

2019-05-02 Thread Cheri Mello
Today, the are the Casa de Misericórdia.
Do an Internet search for: "Asilo de Mendicidade" Horta
If you are using Google, you can use the "Translate this page" link to help
you read.
Good luck,
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 1:11 PM  wrote:

> If I have it right, it says "Asilo de Mendicidade, da freguesia de
> Matriz".
>
> On Thursday, May 2, 2019 at 1:42:34 PM UTC-6, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>
>> Saudade064,
>>
>> I didn't know that the Azores had the poor asylums. I know about the
>> American ones. What does it say for "poor asylum" on the document in the
>> Portuguese language?
>>
>> Thanks, Cheri
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 12:23 PM  wrote:
>>
>>> I was able to get a death certificate for my great-grandfather who came
>>> to California but went back to Faial, his island of birth sometime in the
>>> 1930s. In the translation of the record, I discovered he died in a place
>>> called "Poor's Asylum" in 1948, which was located in Matriz, Faial. I
>>> cannot find anything online about this place. I'd like to know it's history
>>> and see what it looked like. I'm wondering if it was part of a church?
>>> Thanks in advance to anyone who can shed some light on this place!
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Poor's Asylum, Matriz, Faial

2019-05-02 Thread saudade064
If I have it right, it says "Asilo de Mendicidade, da freguesia de Matriz". 

On Thursday, May 2, 2019 at 1:42:34 PM UTC-6, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Saudade064,
>
> I didn't know that the Azores had the poor asylums. I know about the 
> American ones. What does it say for "poor asylum" on the document in the 
> Portuguese language?
>
> Thanks, Cheri
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
> On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 12:23 PM > wrote:
>
>> I was able to get a death certificate for my great-grandfather who came 
>> to California but went back to Faial, his island of birth sometime in the 
>> 1930s. In the translation of the record, I discovered he died in a place 
>> called "Poor's Asylum" in 1948, which was located in Matriz, Faial. I 
>> cannot find anything online about this place. I'd like to know it's history 
>> and see what it looked like. I'm wondering if it was part of a church? 
>> Thanks in advance to anyone who can shed some light on this place! 
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Poor's Asylum, Matriz, Faial

2019-05-02 Thread Cheri Mello
Saudade064,

I didn't know that the Azores had the poor asylums. I know about the
American ones. What does it say for "poor asylum" on the document in the
Portuguese language?

Thanks, Cheri
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 12:23 PM  wrote:

> I was able to get a death certificate for my great-grandfather who came to
> California but went back to Faial, his island of birth sometime in the
> 1930s. In the translation of the record, I discovered he died in a place
> called "Poor's Asylum" in 1948, which was located in Matriz, Faial. I
> cannot find anything online about this place. I'd like to know it's history
> and see what it looked like. I'm wondering if it was part of a church?
> Thanks in advance to anyone who can shed some light on this place!
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Poor's Asylum, Matriz, Faial

2019-05-02 Thread saudade064
I was able to get a death certificate for my great-grandfather who came to 
California but went back to Faial, his island of birth sometime in the 
1930s. In the translation of the record, I discovered he died in a place 
called "Poor's Asylum" in 1948, which was located in Matriz, Faial. I 
cannot find anything online about this place. I'd like to know it's history 
and see what it looked like. I'm wondering if it was part of a church? 
Thanks in advance to anyone who can shed some light on this place! 

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