Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question regarding the meaning of: Velho

2019-08-25 Thread Liz Migliori 
Oh no.  Now I’m gonna have to go back and look them all up again to see if 
there was a comma or not

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> On Aug 25, 2019, at 12:53 AM, JR  wrote:
> 
> O Velho, is definitely, the elder. However, Velho is a very old legitimate 
> surname. So I would agree, if the name is prefaced by a comma, it means the 
> elder. If there is no comma, it is a surname. Velho as a surname predates the 
> written church records. The name appears to have fallen out of favour and is 
> hardly used any more, at least based on what I see in the later 1800-1899 
> records. Though I could be wrong. Frei Goncalo Velho Cabral was the 
> discoverer of the Azores and the first Capitao Donatario of Sao Miguel and 
> Santa Maria. He was the son of Fernao Velho, who was Knight of Santiago. Ilha 
> de St Maria has many Velho names. This all from the the first edition of 
> Rodrigo Rodrigues.
> 
> JR 
> 
>> On Sunday, August 25, 2019 at 12:17:32 AM UTC-4, Lizmig wrote:
>> I have that also in several of mine. Sometimes even O Velho
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>>> On Aug 24, 2019, at 6:58 PM, Ângela Loura  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It depends on the case. Sometimes it was only used to mention the elder 
>>> person with X name, and sometimes it became a last name just like some 
>>> nicknames do.
>>> 
>>> 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy  escreveu 
>>> no dia sábado, 24/08/2019 à(s) 23:53:
 Good afternoon everyone; I have a question regarding the word/name: Velho. 
  When you see it after someone’s name without a comma, is it a part of the 
 name or just it mean, “the elder” or something like that.
 
  
 
 Thanks for your responses,
 
  
 
 Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
 
  
 
 
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question regarding the meaning of: Velho

2019-08-25 Thread 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy 
Thank you everyone for your thoughts on my question of Velho, O Velho, etc.  
The various uses of names, parts of names, etc. in the records sometimes makes 
me want to give up.  Who knew the journey this hunt for ancestors would take me 
on! LOL!

Muito Obrigado,

Sam (Mazatlán, MX)

From: JR
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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question regarding the meaning of: Velho

O Velho, is definitely, the elder. However, Velho is a very old legitimate 
surname. So I would agree, if the name is prefaced by a comma, it means the 
elder. If there is no comma, it is a surname. Velho as a surname predates the 
written church records. The name appears to have fallen out of favour and is 
hardly used any more, at least based on what I see in the later 1800-1899 
records. Though I could be wrong. Frei Goncalo Velho Cabral was the discoverer 
of the Azores and the first Capitao Donatario of Sao Miguel and Santa Maria. He 
was the son of Fernao Velho, who was Knight of Santiago. Ilha de St Maria has 
many Velho names. This all from the the first edition of Rodrigo Rodrigues.

JR 

On Sunday, August 25, 2019 at 12:17:32 AM UTC-4, Lizmig wrote:
I have that also in several of mine. Sometimes even O Velho
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On Aug 24, 2019, at 6:58 PM, Ângela Loura  wrote:
It depends on the case. Sometimes it was only used to mention the elder person 
with X name, and sometimes it became a last name just like some nicknames do.

'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy  escreveu no 
dia sábado, 24/08/2019 à(s) 23:53:
Good afternoon everyone; I have a question regarding the word/name: Velho.  
When you see it after someone’s name without a comma, is it a part of the name 
or just it mean, “the elder” or something like that.
 
Thanks for your responses,
 
Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
 


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question regarding the meaning of: Velho

2019-08-24 Thread JR 
O Velho, is definitely, the elder. However, Velho is a very old legitimate 
surname. So I would agree, if the name is prefaced by a comma, it means the 
elder. If there is no comma, it is a surname. Velho as a surname predates 
the written church records. The name appears to have fallen out of favour 
and is hardly used any more, at least based on what I see in the later 
1800-1899 records. Though I could be wrong. Frei Goncalo Velho Cabral was 
the discoverer of the Azores and the first Capitao Donatario of Sao Miguel 
and Santa Maria. He was the son of Fernao Velho, who was Knight of 
Santiago. Ilha de St Maria has many Velho names. This all from the the 
first edition of Rodrigo Rodrigues.

JR 

On Sunday, August 25, 2019 at 12:17:32 AM UTC-4, Lizmig wrote:
>
> I have that also in several of mine. Sometimes even O Velho
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Aug 24, 2019, at 6:58 PM, Ângela Loura  > wrote:
>
> It depends on the case. Sometimes it was only used to mention the elder 
> person with X name, and sometimes it became a last name just like some 
> nicknames do.
>
> 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy  > escreveu no dia sábado, 24/08/2019 à(s) 23:53:
>
>> Good afternoon everyone; I have a question regarding the word/name: 
>> Velho.  When you see it after someone’s name without a comma, is it a part 
>> of the name or just it mean, “the elder” or something like that.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Thanks for your responses,
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question regarding the meaning of: Velho

2019-08-24 Thread Elizabeth Migliori 
I have that also in several of mine. Sometimes even O Velho

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> On Aug 24, 2019, at 6:58 PM, Ângela Loura  wrote:
> 
> It depends on the case. Sometimes it was only used to mention the elder 
> person with X name, and sometimes it became a last name just like some 
> nicknames do.
> 
> 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy  escreveu no 
> dia sábado, 24/08/2019 à(s) 23:53:
>> Good afternoon everyone; I have a question regarding the word/name: Velho.  
>> When you see it after someone’s name without a comma, is it a part of the 
>> name or just it mean, “the elder” or something like that.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thanks for your responses,
>> 
>>  
>> 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question regarding the meaning of: Velho

2019-08-24 Thread Ângela Loura 
It depends on the case. Sometimes it was only used to mention the elder
person with X name, and sometimes it became a last name just like some
nicknames do.

'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy  escreveu
no dia sábado, 24/08/2019 à(s) 23:53:

> Good afternoon everyone; I have a question regarding the word/name:
> Velho.  When you see it after someone’s name without a comma, is it a part
> of the name or just it mean, “the elder” or something like that.
>
>
>
> Thanks for your responses,
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question regarding the meaning of: Velho

2019-08-24 Thread 'Deb McCabe' via Azores Genealogy 
Hi Sam,
When I encountered the name without a comma, I was told it was an alcunha 
meaning old.  Others more experienced than I may weigh in with other info.
Deb
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On Saturday, August 24, 2019, 03:53:42 PM PDT, 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores 
Genealogy  wrote:  
 
 
Good afternoon everyone; I have a question regarding the word/name: Velho.  
When you see it after someone’s name without a comma, is it a part of the name 
or just it mean, “the elder” or something like that.

  

Thanks for your responses,

  

Sam (Mazatlán, MX)

  


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[AZORES-Genealogy] Question regarding the meaning of: Velho

2019-08-24 Thread 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy 
Good afternoon everyone; I have a question regarding the word/name: Velho.  
When you see it after someone’s name without a comma, is it a part of the name 
or just it mean, “the elder” or something like that.

Thanks for your responses,

Sam (Mazatlán, MX)



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