Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Another Altares baptism were I need helpreading the relationship of the godparents to the child

2018-08-04 Thread bsei2816
Hi Doreen,

I suspect the Francisco and Beatriz couple you have in your database is the 
correct couple (parents of the brother/sister godparents) and the priest 
simply made a mistake by repeating the godmother's name instead of her 
mother's.  I do not find a Francisco Gonçalves Velho marrying a MARIA do 
Espirito Santo on the Terceira marriage index, but there is one marrying a 
BEATRIZ do Espirito Santo (which you know because you put it in another 
post)

Furthermore, in a quick scan I found three children from this couple.  

*http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1826-1838/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1826-1838_item1/P33.html*
 

 
(Francisco, bottom left)

*http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1826-1838/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1826-1838_item1/P105.html*
 

 
(Maria, top right)

*http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1826-1838/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1826-1838_item1/P166.html*
 

 
(Joam, bottom left)
I think it likely that the Francisco and Maria above are Narcisa's 
godparents and the priest just made a mistake on their mother's name.  

I hope this helps.

Bill

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Another Altares baptism were I need helpreading the relationship of the godparents to the child

2018-08-04 Thread doreencaetano

Ok that means this is not the family I have in my database. I believe they are 
related though, Does any one know anything about this family?
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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Another Altares baptism were I need helpreading 
the relationship of the godparents to the child

It says the godparents Francisco Gonçalves Velho and his sister Maria do 
Espirito Santo; and thay they are children of Francisco Gonçalves Velho and his 
wife Maria do Espirito.  It doesn't give their relationship to the baby.  There 
is not Beatriz named.

Bill Seidler

On Saturday, August 4, 2018 at 9:01:58 AM UTC-7, doreencaetano wrote:
Good morning again. Here is another baptism records where I need help 
understanding the relationship of the godparents to the baby. The baby Narcisa 
is the daughter of Jose Martins Coelho? And Maria Joaquina. The godparents are 
Francisco Goncalves Velho? Is it saying that he is the son of Maria do Espirito 
Santoor his sisiter. Then it mentions Francisco Goncalves and Maria do Espirito 
Santo. Not a hard record to read, it is just that my ability to read Portuguese 
is poor.
Narcisa’s record is on the right side of the page. 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1842-1852/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1842-1852_item1/P199.html
In my database I have Francisco Goncalves Velho senior and Beatriz de Espirito 
Santo having two children Francisco Goncalves Velho born 12/1827 I n Altares 
and Francisco Goncalves Velho Jr, born 1835. I do not have parents listed for  
Francisco and Beatriz. I have Francisco Jr. and Francisca Rosa having a child 
named Manuel Goncalves Velho. And Francisco Jr. He has another wife named Maria 
de Socorro.
Any help you could provide in helping me build this family group would be 
greatly appreciated. Thanks
 
 
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