[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Death record

[JR]

Beatriz Gonsalves died March 25- 1707, more or less fifty years old, filha 
de Domingos Manoel and Maria Gaspar; left will, buried in Capello, church 
of Santissima Trindade.

So it is possible she or her children are located in Capello. Not sure 
records go back that far.

JR

On Monday, July 8, 2019 at 12:36:55 PM UTC-4, doreencaetano wrote:
>
> Once again I find myself needing help. This time a death record. I just do 
> not have the language skills to read this. I working with someone on their 
> tree and it seems to be a mixture of several other trees with just dates. 
> So when I look to fin the record that goes with that date I think I’m 
> finding a LOT of misread records. BUT since my skills are so elementary I 
> do not want to disregard someone else’s work. Top of the page. It is 
> suppose to be a death record for a Beatriz Cota, married to Domingos Nunes 
> Coelho. Thanks
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-O-1707-1747/TER-AH-ALTARES-O-1707-1747_item1/P4.html
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Death Record Listing Family Preceded in Death

[climbatree2]

:)Maybe we should get a group of people together and start extracting 
the baptisms followed by death records now that the marriages are done.   

Suzanne

On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 2:23:51 PM UTC-7, Jeremy G. B-C: 
Researching Sao Jorge wrote:
>
> Hello All,
>
> I just was researching one of my lines in Sao Jorge and got another 
> generation back in the early 1700's but I did so in a rather unique way, 
> and thought that I would share because it may hep someone.  Unknowingly, I 
> did so exactly the same way as previously done by Marcio Borba.
>
> I had traced my line back to a 5th great grandfather in Sao Jorge, and 
> since his marriage record is among the missing,  I was not able to 
> determine his parenthood.  However, I knew that based on his death record 
> he was born in Calheta about 1700.  His name was Francisco and so there are 
> way to many births for me to latch on to any particular one.  I was doing 
> research on another line going through the early death records of the same 
> town.  I stumbled across one for a lady named Maria de Sousa.  The record 
> mentioned the soul of her grandson Pascoal de Sousa, son of Francisco de 
> Sousa Goulart, her son.  I always to at least some research on my distant 
> aunts and uncles (as all should) and so I knew when he died, and it was 
> indeed before her.  The Francisco de Sousa Goulart was my ancestor, 
> ThereforeI was able to tac on another generation.
>
> The moral of this being that there is some good information in some of 
> those older death records where they list whom the person was predeceased 
> by, and always always always pull at least the baptismal records of your 
> ancestors siblings.  The collateral research always pays off.
>
> JEREMY
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Death Record Listing Family Preceded in Death

[climbatree2]

Good job, Jeremy.   I agree with Cheri, working on the collateral lines is 
a good way to go. 

Suzanne

On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 2:23:51 PM UTC-7, Jeremy G. B-C: 
Researching Sao Jorge wrote:
>
> Hello All,
>
> I just was researching one of my lines in Sao Jorge and got another 
> generation back in the early 1700's but I did so in a rather unique way, 
> and thought that I would share because it may hep someone.  Unknowingly, I 
> did so exactly the same way as previously done by Marcio Borba.
>
> I had traced my line back to a 5th great grandfather in Sao Jorge, and 
> since his marriage record is among the missing,  I was not able to 
> determine his parenthood.  However, I knew that based on his death record 
> he was born in Calheta about 1700.  His name was Francisco and so there are 
> way to many births for me to latch on to any particular one.  I was doing 
> research on another line going through the early death records of the same 
> town.  I stumbled across one for a lady named Maria de Sousa.  The record 
> mentioned the soul of her grandson Pascoal de Sousa, son of Francisco de 
> Sousa Goulart, her son.  I always to at least some research on my distant 
> aunts and uncles (as all should) and so I knew when he died, and it was 
> indeed before her.  The Francisco de Sousa Goulart was my ancestor, 
> ThereforeI was able to tac on another generation.
>
> The moral of this being that there is some good information in some of 
> those older death records where they list whom the person was predeceased 
> by, and always always always pull at least the baptismal records of your 
> ancestors siblings.  The collateral research always pays off.
>
> JEREMY
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: death record

[Katharine]

One more excellent book, long out of print but available at libraries
(try Inter Library Loan if yours doesn't have a copy):

Amaral, Pat: They Ploughed the Seas. St. Petersburg: Valkyrie Press,
1978.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: death record

[Cheri Mello]

And this book has death records that will help Mike?

Cheri Mello
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Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
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Re: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: death record

[bellemarco]

Mike,

Call, write the NB Whaling Museum. They have many records for these ships  
including the Charles W. Morgan.


E

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: death record

[Michael Gilfilian]

I only asked about the whaling because my grt grt grandpa ran away from
home on Faial to go whaling on the cw Morgan, but the death is what I
really want
On May 18, 2012 11:56 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:

 And this book has death records that will help Mike?

 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
 Tainhas, Achada

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: death record

[Katharine]

No, but it has a lot of the whaling history of the Portuguese out of
New Bedford.  Katharine.


On May 18, 11:56 am, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:
 And this book has death records that will help Mike?

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: death record

[John Vasconcelos]

Some of those whalers were pretty colorful characters. One in particular
who is in the Amaral book was Captain Antonio Caetano Corvello who was my
mother's second cousin. According to accounts that I've read, he had firery
red hair and a temper to match and was hard to work for. During one voyage,
he was faced with a mutiny which is documented in a book The Mutiny of the
Pedro Varela It's a paperback which you might be able to find to buy for
$3 or $4 by googling it. He was originally from Fajazinha, Flores, my
mother's home village.
John Vasconcelos

On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Katharine katharine.f.ba...@gmail.comwrote:

 One more excellent book, long out of print but available at libraries
 (try Inter Library Loan if yours doesn't have a copy):

 Amaral, Pat: They Ploughed the Seas. St. Petersburg: Valkyrie Press,
 1978.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: death record

[Mike]

I for got to ask do any of you study the whaling history of the portuguese?

On Thursday, May 17, 2012 9:18:36 AM UTC-4, Mike wrote:

 You all helped me find my great grandfather Joseph Pine born 10/23/1894 
 and his marriage to my great grandmother mary perry in new bedford, MA. on 
 may 19, 1917 in new bedford.
 I was hoping that you can help find a record of his death. My grandmother 
 believes he died sometime early in the 1920 shortly after their second son 
 donald was born.
 We're not sure what his portuguese last name is but think it might be 
 Pinheiro.

 thank you,   Mike


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: death record

[bellemarco]

Mike,

Google Portuguese Whaling and you will some books on the subject. I have  
one from NB area A Window Back - Photography in a Whaling Port by Nicholas  
Whitman. It is one of the Spinner books. These are great books on NB area  
and their are several. You can usually find them used on addall.com and  
sometimes on Ebay. I have company right now and when I can get to some  
research, I will try and help you. It's going to be pretty difficult to try  
and find his death date with just a year as most online records only go to  
1910 and I think they are trying to get to 1915 eventually. I am not sure  
what is on familysearch.org You might contact the NB Library on this if you  
haven't already and usually if they are not too busy, they will try to  
help, but please be sure to send them a donation for their help as they  
surely need it and are very cooperative in our efforts to research our  
families.


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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: death record

[Katharine]

Two respected books on Portuguese whalers that might interest you are:

Bertão, David E.  The Portuguese Shore Whalers of California,
1854-1904 (San Jose, CA.: Portuguese Heritage Publications of
California, 2006.  (300 pp., 9″ x 12″):
http://portuguesebooks.org/books/the-portuguese-shore-whalers-of-california-1854-1904

Warrin [sic], Donald, Ph.D.  So Ends This Day: The Portuguese in
American Whaling, 1765–1927. Dartmouth, MA: Tagus Press at UMass
Dartmouth, 2010.  (416 pp. 49 illus.):
http://www.upne.com/1933227283.html

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: death record

[Michael Gilfilian]

The reason why I asked about whaling is that my grt grt grandfather ran
away from the family farm on Faial at 16 yrs old in 1884 to go whaling on
the Charles W Morgan. After 8 months the Morgan went back to Faial to
resupply and he went home. But he heard so much about the USA from the crew
in 1888 he came to new Bedford for good.
On May 17, 2012 8:39 PM, Katharine katharine.f.ba...@gmail.com wrote:

 Two respected books on Portuguese whalers that might interest you are:

 Bertão, David E.  The Portuguese Shore Whalers of California,
 1854-1904 (San Jose, CA.: Portuguese Heritage Publications of
 California, 2006.  (300 pp., 9″ x 12″):

 http://portuguesebooks.org/books/the-portuguese-shore-whalers-of-california-1854-1904

 Warrin [sic], Donald, Ph.D.  So Ends This Day: The Portuguese in
 American Whaling, 1765–1927. Dartmouth, MA: Tagus Press at UMass
 Dartmouth, 2010.  (416 pp. 49 illus.):
 http://www.upne.com/1933227283.html

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Death Record Sao Jorge

[Marilyn]

My family is from Santo Antao, Topo, and Ribeira Seca. These are all
in the Calheta council. In 2002 we visited the Calheta council. They
actually let me look at the book (at the counter in front of them
because I did not have an exact date) to find the information I was
looking for. Then they made the copy for me.


Marilyn Thompson
Researching:  Santo Antao, Topo, Ribeira Seca


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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Death Record Sao Jorge

[Cheri Mello]

Hi Lisa,

It's here, item 2:
http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/genresources.html
Cheri
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