[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading a name

[Barb Davis]

Thanks, everyone.  It is indeed dos Reis... I found the marriage record and 
baptism records of the children with corresponding dates.

Barb

On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 2:12:56 PM UTC-7, Barb Davis wrote:
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-PV-VILANOVA-C-1721-1776/TER-PV-VILANOVA-C-1721-1776_item1/P76.html
>
> In the above record on the left page, line 16 of the record for Mattias 
> Goncalves and Maria de Jesus lists the mother of the groom.  I am having 
> trouble determining her last name.  I see that the groom's father is Manuel 
> Goncalves and his wife is Maria do Sao ?
>
> Thanks for the help!
>
> Barb 
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading a name

[Joe Matias]

Dos Reis is what I see.


On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 4:45 PM,  wrote:

> I don't see a "São" there.  I think it is "dos Reis" but written as "do S
> Reis" if that makes any sense.
>
> Bill Seidler
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 1:12:56 PM UTC-8, Barb Davis wrote:
>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-PV-VILANOVA-C-1721-1776/TER-PV-VILANOVA-C-1721-1776_item1/P76.html
>>
>> In the above record on the left page, line 16 of the record for Mattias
>> Goncalves and Maria de Jesus lists the mother of the groom.  I am having
>> trouble determining her last name.  I see that the groom's father is Manuel
>> Goncalves and his wife is Maria do Sao ?
>>
>> Thanks for the help!
>>
>> Barb
>>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading a name

[Aaron Pereira]

I agree with Bill, it's dos Reis.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading a name

[bsei2816]

I don't see a "São" there.  I think it is "dos Reis" but written as "do S 
Reis" if that makes any sense.

Bill Seidler

On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 1:12:56 PM UTC-8, Barb Davis wrote:

>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-PV-VILANOVA-C-1721-1776/TER-PV-VILANOVA-C-1721-1776_item1/P76.html
>
> In the above record on the left page, line 16 of the record for Mattias 
> Goncalves and Maria de Jesus lists the mother of the groom.  I am having 
> trouble determining her last name.  I see that the groom's father is Manuel 
> Goncalves and his wife is Maria do Sao ?
>
> Thanks for the help!
>
> Barb 
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading a name

[Sheri Fenley]

Wow, it makes all the difference in the world.  I was looking for
Regina daughter of Francisco Camillo and Maria Da Gloria.  The mother
of Francisco being Maria Espirito Santo and the parents of Maria da
Gloria be Maneul Machado and Isabel Josefa.

Francisco Camillo from Village of Praia, Island of Graciosa

Looks like I missed by a long shot on this one.  Thanks to all for the
help.

Sheri Fenley
Stockton, California

On Apr 18, 7:35 pm, p...@dholmes.com wrote:
 Hi Sheri,



 I didn't notice if anyone told you that the child you found is not Regina. 
 It's Angelina.



 Knowing that, do you think this is your ancestor?

 Or are you looking for a Regina in this same family?



 Do you know they came from Conceicao, Angra?

 My grandfather was born in Conceicao back in 1889, I think. His name was 
 Manuel Joaquim Leal da Rocha Homem (changed to Manuel Rocha Holmes).



 If Angelina is your ancestor, then we are very distantly related. I think the 
 most recent connection is from the late 1500s. I have traced her ancestors 
 way back.



 Doug da Rocha Holmes
 Sacramento, California
 Pico  Terceira Genealogist
 916-550-1618

 www.dholmes.com



  Original Message 
 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading a name
 From: Sheri Fenley sherilan...@gmail.com
 Date: Wed, April 17, 2013 12:34 am
 To:azores@googlegroups.com
 I need help reading a name from a birth record which I have attached.  It is 
 #5 which begins at the bottom left hand side of the page and continues at the 
 top right.  The name of the child is Regina.

 The name of the father is Francisco__ (I cannot read what comes 
 after his name)

 The name of the mother is Maria da Gloria



 I can't make out the name of the Godparents either.



 I think I have been able to pick out that Francisco is from the Village of 
 Praia on the Island of Graciosa, that his mother is named Maria Espirito 
 Santo.

 The parents of Maria da Gloria are Manuel Machado and Maria Isabela.



 Thank you in advance for help in reading this document.



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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading a name

[Sheri Fenley]

Doug,

In re-reading the document again, I think I have to disagree.  The
name of the child is Regina.  I found a birth record for another child
and it makes Regina's make sense now.

Francisco José Dutra Camillo, fisherman, born in the parish of Matriz
de São Matheus of Villa da Praia, Graciosa Island, and of Maria da
Gloria, domestic labor, born in this Parish of Nossa Senhora da
Conceição, where they were married and are parishioners, living in Rua
do Castellinho. Granddaughter, on the father’s side, of unknown
grandfather, and Maria do Espírito Santo; and on the mother’s side of
Manoel Machado, deceased, and Isabel Josefa.

Now I just need to understand where the Jose Dutra is coming from.
It is only in these 2 birth records that this name is used.

On Apr 18, 7:35 pm, p...@dholmes.com wrote:
 Hi Sheri,



 I didn't notice if anyone told you that the child you found is not Regina. 
 It's Angelina.



 Knowing that, do you think this is your ancestor?

 Or are you looking for a Regina in this same family?



 Do you know they came from Conceicao, Angra?

 My grandfather was born in Conceicao back in 1889, I think. His name was 
 Manuel Joaquim Leal da Rocha Homem (changed to Manuel Rocha Holmes).



 If Angelina is your ancestor, then we are very distantly related. I think the 
 most recent connection is from the late 1500s. I have traced her ancestors 
 way back.



 Doug da Rocha Holmes
 Sacramento, California
 Pico  Terceira Genealogist
 916-550-1618

 www.dholmes.com



  Original Message 
 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading a name
 From: Sheri Fenley sherilan...@gmail.com
 Date: Wed, April 17, 2013 12:34 am
 To:azores@googlegroups.com
 I need help reading a name from a birth record which I have attached.  It is 
 #5 which begins at the bottom left hand side of the page and continues at the 
 top right.  The name of the child is Regina.

 The name of the father is Francisco__ (I cannot read what comes 
 after his name)

 The name of the mother is Maria da Gloria



 I can't make out the name of the Godparents either.



 I think I have been able to pick out that Francisco is from the Village of 
 Praia on the Island of Graciosa, that his mother is named Maria Espirito 
 Santo.

 The parents of Maria da Gloria are Manuel Machado and Maria Isabela.



 Thank you in advance for help in reading this document.



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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading a name

[Sheri Fenley]

David,

Thank you so much for you help.  So Francisco was born out of wedlock
then?  I wonder where the name of Camillo comes from that he uses?

Sheri Fenley

On Apr 18, 7:41 pm, p...@dholmes.com wrote:
 David,



 It's interesting what you found about the parents of the single mother Maria 
 do Espirito Santo.

 It isn't stated in the marriage, but when Francisco married, he might not 
 have known it was to a cousin.

 They are related in the the 3º e 4º grau de consanguinidade. Common ancestors 
 are Bezerra.



 Doug da Rocha Holmes
 Sacramento, California
 Pico  Terceira Genealogist
 916-550-1618

 www.dholmes.com



  Original Message 
 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading a name
 From: Kawika322 oldschoo...@gmail.com
 Date: Wed, April 17, 2013 6:42 pm
 To:azores@googlegroups.comSheri,



 I found the baptismal record for Francisco Jose Dutra. He was born on 4 Nov 
 1865 in Sao Matheus, Praia, Graciosa and baptized on 5 Nov 1865. His mother 
 is listed as Maria do Espirito Santo, and she is a native of Santa Barbara 
 (Ribeiras), Pico. The father is listed as unknown. Maternal grandparents are 
 listed as Jose Pereira and Maria do Espirito Santo. They are natives of Santa 
 Barbara (Ribeiras), Pico.



 I am attaching the baptismal record I made a copy of at the Family History 
 Center.



 You can find more info going back on the maternal grandparents Jose Pereira 
 and Maria do Espirito Santo on the University of Minho website in the Lajes 
 do Pico, Ribeiras section.

 http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=Ribeiras;lang=en;p=jose;n=pereira;oc=2



 On the website link, the mother of Francisco Jose Dutra is presumably the 
 youngest child of Jose Pereira and Maria do Espirito Santo, born 25 Jan 1820.



 Hope this info helps, and let me know if you have any other questions.



     David




 On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 12:34:48 AM UTC-7, Sheri Fenley wrote:

 I need help reading a name from a birth record which I have attached.  It is 
 #5 which begins at the bottom left hand side of the page and continues at the 
 top right.  The name of the child is Regina.

 The name of the father is Francisco__ (I cannot read what comes 
 after his name)

 The name of the mother is Maria da Gloria



 I can't make out the name of the Godparents either.



 I think I have been able to pick out that Francisco is from the Village of 
 Praia on the Island of Graciosa, that his mother is named Maria Espirito 
 Santo.

 The parents of Maria da Gloria are Manuel Machado and Maria Isabela.



 Thank you in advance for help in reading this document.





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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading a name

[pico]

David,It's interesting what you found about the parents of the single mother Maria do Espirito Santo.It isn't stated in the marriage, but when Francisco married, he might not have known it was to a cousin.They are related in the the 3º e 4º grau de consanguinidade. Common ancestors are Bezerra.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico  Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com


 Original Message 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading a name
From: Kawika322 oldschoo...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, April 17, 2013 6:42 pm
To: azores@googlegroups.com

Sheri, I found the baptismal record for Francisco Jose Dutra. He was born on 4 Nov 1865 in Sao Matheus, Praia, Graciosa and baptized on 5 Nov 1865. His mother is listed as Maria do Espirito Santo, and she is a native of Santa Barbara (Ribeiras), Pico.The father is listed as unknown. Maternal grandparents are listed as Jose Pereira and Maria do Espirito Santo. They are natives of Santa Barbara (Ribeiras), Pico. I am attaching the baptismal record I made a copy of at the Family History Center. You can find more info going back on the maternal grandparents Jose Pereira and Maria do Espirito Santo on the University of Minho website in the Lajes do Pico, Ribeiras section. http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=Ribeiras;lang=en;p=jose;n=pereira;oc=2On the website link, the mother of Francisco Jose Dutra is presumably the youngest child of Jose Pereira and Maria do Espirito Santo, born 25 Jan 1820. Hope this info helps, and let me know if you have any other questions.  DavidOn Wednesday, April 17, 2013 12:34:48 AM UTC-7, Sheri Fenley wrote:I need help reading a name from a birth record which I have attached. It is #5 which begins at the bottom left hand side of the page and continues at the top right. The name of the child is Regina.The name of the father is Francisco__ (I cannot read what comes after his name)The name of the mother is Maria da GloriaI can't make out the name of the Godparents either.I think I have been able to pick out that Francisco is from the Village of Praia on the Island of Graciosa, that his mother is named Maria Espirito Santo.The parents of Maria da Gloria are Manuel Machado and Maria Isabela.Thank you in advance for help in reading this document. 





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