Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Hi, I am having a difficult time tryingtoread this record ...

2019-05-05 Thread JR
Sorry guys. I thought her translations were so good that I didn't bother to 
review the dates! Nevertheless, I think Lisa does quite well for a beginner.

JR

On Sunday, May 5, 2019 at 10:53:34 PM UTC-4, Mara wrote:
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> That’s correct, Bill and thank you.  My typo, “1766”
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> *From: *bsei...@gmail.com 
> *Sent: *May 5, 2019 10:51 PM
> *To: *Azores Genealogy 
> *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Hi, I am having a difficult time 
> tryingtoread this record ...
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> I see the year as 1766
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> Bill Seidler
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> On Sunday, May 5, 2019 at 6:50:59 PM UTC-7, Mara wrote:
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> Hi Lisa,
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> The marriage date for Joao Carvalho and Maria Rosa is April 14 1763. 
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> I have these families both lines are my ancestors.  PM me if you’re 
> looking for more information.
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> Margaret
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> *From: *JR
> *Sent: *May 5, 2019 8:51 PM
> *To: *Azores Genealogy
> *Subject: *[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Hi, I am having a difficult time trying 
> toread this record ...
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> It all looks good to me. The name is Simao Machado. The variations on 
> Filipa (the modern version) are not that important. They are same name, 
> Phelipa, Felipa, with or without two p's or two l's. Loiro in other records 
> may turn out to be Louro. The bride, Felipa was disobligated in Sao Pedro, 
> so likely was also baptised there.
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> JR
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> On Sunday, May 5, 2019 at 6:16:17 PM UTC-4, Lisa S wrote:
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> The first one is this:
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> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1747-1778/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1747-1778_item1/P129.html
> Marriage - 12 April 1863
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> João Carvalho de Sousa
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> son of Jozeph Carvalho and Maria Martins
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> Maria Rosa
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> daughter of Francisco de Sousa and Philippa??? Pereira
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> All baptized in this same frequesia São Pedro, Ponta Delgada, São Miguel
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> Gonçalo Correia and Manoel da Costa = witnesses ???
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> Next I checked the indexes to try to help me guess the name of the parents 
> of Maria Rosa.  Here is the link to that page.  I think that it's Francisco 
> de Sousa Loiro and Philipa Pereira.  Does this appear right?
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> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-I-1617-1860/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-I-1617-1860_item1/P26.html
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> Then there's the 3rd record which is also so hard to read:
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> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1718-1747/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1718-1747_item1/P65.html
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> Groom: Francisco de Sousa Loiro Son of Manoel Rodrigues Loiro and his wife 
> Maria dos Santos Naturals of Estrella (Nossa Senhora da Estrela) in the 
> village of Ribeira Grande Bride: Fellippa Pereira Daughter of Simao or 
> Manoel (sp? hard to read) Machado and Maria Pereira DIGO Isabel Pereira (I 
> think that DIGO means that the priest made a mistake by writing Maria 
> Pereira, and is correcting himself by then writing the proper name which is 
> Isabel Pereira.) Naturals of this same freguesia Apóstolo de São Pedro, 
> Ponta Delgada, São Miguel, Açores, Portugal Of note is that the groom signs 
> his name Francisco de Sousa, without Loiro at the end. Margin Note: 10 
> March 1812
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> Does anyone else get anything different please?
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> Thank you for any help.
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Hi, I am having a difficult time tryingtoread this record ...

2019-05-05 Thread Margaret Vicente
That’s correct, Bill and thank you.  My typo, “1766”


From: bsei2...@gmail.com
Sent: May 5, 2019 10:51 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Hi, I am having a difficult time 
tryingtoread this record ...

I see the year as 1766

Bill Seidler

On Sunday, May 5, 2019 at 6:50:59 PM UTC-7, Mara wrote:
Hi Lisa,
 
The marriage date for Joao Carvalho and Maria Rosa is April 14 1763. 
 
I have these families both lines are my ancestors.  PM me if you’re looking for 
more information.
 
Margaret
 
 
From: JR
Sent: May 5, 2019 8:51 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Hi, I am having a difficult time trying toread 
this record ...
 
It all looks good to me. The name is Simao Machado. The variations on Filipa 
(the modern version) are not that important. They are same name, Phelipa, 
Felipa, with or without two p's or two l's. Loiro in other records may turn out 
to be Louro. The bride, Felipa was disobligated in Sao Pedro, so likely was 
also baptised there.
 
JR
 


On Sunday, May 5, 2019 at 6:16:17 PM UTC-4, Lisa S wrote:
The first one is this:
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1747-1778/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1747-1778_item1/P129.html
Marriage - 12 April 1863
João Carvalho de Sousa
son of Jozeph Carvalho and Maria Martins
Maria Rosa
daughter of Francisco de Sousa and Philippa??? Pereira
 
All baptized in this same frequesia São Pedro, Ponta Delgada, São Miguel
 
Gonçalo Correia and Manoel da Costa = witnesses ???
 
===
 
Next I checked the indexes to try to help me guess the name of the parents of 
Maria Rosa.  Here is the link to that page.  I think that it's Francisco de 
Sousa Loiro and Philipa Pereira.  Does this appear right?
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-I-1617-1860/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-I-1617-1860_item1/P26.html
 
 
 
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Then there's the 3rd record which is also so hard to read:
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1718-1747/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1718-1747_item1/P65.html
 
Groom: Francisco de Sousa Loiro Son of Manoel Rodrigues Loiro and his wife 
Maria dos Santos Naturals of Estrella (Nossa Senhora da Estrela) in the village 
of Ribeira Grande Bride: Fellippa Pereira Daughter of Simao or Manoel (sp? hard 
to read) Machado and Maria Pereira DIGO Isabel Pereira (I think that DIGO means 
that the priest made a mistake by writing Maria Pereira, and is correcting 
himself by then writing the proper name which is Isabel Pereira.) Naturals of 
this same freguesia Apóstolo de São Pedro, Ponta Delgada, São Miguel, Açores, 
Portugal Of note is that the groom signs his name Francisco de Sousa, without 
Loiro at the end. Margin Note: 10 March 1812
 

 
Does anyone else get anything different please?
 
Thank you for any help.
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