Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: N. S. De Lourdes Ilha do Pico

[Cheri Mello]

Jeremy,

You may be going off on a tangent here.

If you really want to pursue your method, you need to date the card. It
looks like you have scanned a cabinet card. I'm not sure. Here's
information on cabinet cards: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabinet_card

I have a book on photography for genealogy. It could be another type of
card too (daguerreotype comes to mind, but I don't think so -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daguerreotype).

It's best to start with your ancestor: name, date, and place. Create a
timeline for your ancestor (censuses, emigration/immigration), birth,
marriage(s), death. Use other records to try to narrow things down or to
find the freguesia.

I'm not so sure that a card that has popped up from ?? is going to hold
the clue that you need. Maybe it will, but there's a chance it may not.

I can meet you in the genealogy room of the civic center library and we can
go over what you have. If you want to do that, we need to go off list and
email each other privately. gfscherim at gmail.com.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: N. S. De Lourdes Ilha do Pico

['j Bc' via Azores Genealogy]

Hello! Thanks ever so much for the clarification.  You wrote "It must have been 
issued to raise funds to build one of the lateral altars where the image of our 
Lady of Lourdes stands" - so I appreciate knowing what it was... I am 
attempting to date it, so do you think that the church might have record of 
when the altar was constructed? There is an image of it on the front to use in 
identification Does anyone happen to know who I might contact there?
Thanks!
Jeremy

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: N. S. De Lourdes Ilha do Pico

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Wow, how beautiful! Thank you, Margaret for the lovely photo!

Rosemarie
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Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 6:55 AM, Margaret Vicente  wrote:

> Hi Jeremy,
>
> Regarding Luciana's translation I would read it as "true replica of .":
>
> This email your reading is correct.  Esmola translates into "Alms" or more
> current "donation".  This photo belongs to Criacao Velha as translated in
> prior email by Cheri.  It must have been issued to raise funds to build one
> of the lateral altars where the image of our Lady of Lourdes stands. The
> Patron Saint of Criacao Velha is N. Sra. das Dores as also mentioned by
> Cheri.
>
> Have a look.
>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Igreja_de_Nossa_Senhora_das_Dores,_altar_lateral_3_Cria%C3%A7%C3%A3o_velha,_concelho_da_Madalena,_ilha_do_Pico,_A%C3%A7ores,_Portugal.JPG
>
> On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 2:46 AM, 'j Bc' via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Okay! Thanks so much for all your help! I'm attaching a scan of the back
>> side. (See the right one) Am I right in that it reads: "pede-se uma esmola
>> para o seu altar"? If so how would you translate "esmola" Google is
>> uncertain and gives me different answers. Is it "are asked alms to the
>> altar"?
>> Thanks ever so much!
>> Lastly, Cheri, you mentioned the church there is Nossa Senhora das
>> Doress. What do you make of this? Is it from that church, or is there a
>> possibility it was from another one nearby in C. Velha? Is there just 1? I
>> can't locate my relatives in C. Velha at culturacores registers even though
>> I have this new lead
>> Jeremy
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: N. S. De Lourdes Ilha do Pico

[Margaret Vicente]

Hi Jeremy,

Regarding Luciana's translation I would read it as "true replica of .":

This email your reading is correct.  Esmola translates into "Alms" or more
current "donation".  This photo belongs to Criacao Velha as translated in
prior email by Cheri.  It must have been issued to raise funds to build one
of the lateral altars where the image of our Lady of Lourdes stands. The
Patron Saint of Criacao Velha is N. Sra. das Dores as also mentioned by
Cheri.

Have a look.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Igreja_de_Nossa_Senhora_das_Dores,_altar_lateral_3_Cria%C3%A7%C3%A3o_velha,_concelho_da_Madalena,_ilha_do_Pico,_A%C3%A7ores,_Portugal.JPG

On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 2:46 AM, 'j Bc' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>
> Okay! Thanks so much for all your help! I'm attaching a scan of the back
> side. (See the right one) Am I right in that it reads: "pede-se uma esmola
> para o seu altar"? If so how would you translate "esmola" Google is
> uncertain and gives me different answers. Is it "are asked alms to the
> altar"?
> Thanks ever so much!
> Lastly, Cheri, you mentioned the church there is Nossa Senhora das Doress.
> What do you make of this? Is it from that church, or is there a possibility
> it was from another one nearby in C. Velha? Is there just 1? I can't locate
> my relatives in C. Velha at culturacores registers even though I have this
> new lead
> Jeremy
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: N. S. De Lourdes Ilha do Pico

[nancy jean baptiste]

Criacao  Velhait's a village between Madalena and Candelaria Pico.


From: azores@googlegroups.com <azores@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Luciana 
Pio Raposo <lrapos...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 1:16:34 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: N. S. De Lourdes Ilha do Pico

"C?pia fiel da imagem que se venera na Egreja (Igreja) da C. Velha da Ilha do 
Pico"-
True copy of the image worshipped at C. Velha , Pico Island `s Church.

Em segunda-feira, 23 de maio de 2016 19:28:50 UTC-3, j Bc escreveu:
Hello. This is an inscription on a card I found, and I am hoping that it may 
help me locate my ancestors on Pico.  Any help would be greatly appreciated in 
regards to making sence of the attached image.  There is more writig on the 
bacj starting with parce-se and it has a name mello but its in bad shape 
and Im still working on getting a decent scan of it to read it!

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: N. S. De Lourdes Ilha do Pico

[Luciana Pio Raposo]

"Cópia fiel da imagem que se venera na Egreja (Igreja) da C. Velha da Ilha 
do Pico"-  
True copy of the image worshipped at C. Velha , Pico Island `s Church.

Em segunda-feira, 23 de maio de 2016 19:28:50 UTC-3, j Bc escreveu:
>
> Hello. This is an inscription on a card I found, and I am hoping that it 
> may help me locate my ancestors on Pico.  Any help would be greatly 
> appreciated in regards to making sence of the attached image.  There is 
> more writig on the bacj starting with parce-se and it has a name mello 
> but its in bad shape and Im still working on getting a decent scan of it to 
> read it!
>

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