RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto. Need a little help,please

2019-08-17 Thread 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy 
Thank you everyone for your help on this.  😊

Sam (Mazatlán, MX)

From: Rosemarie Capodicci
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 8:00 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto. Need a little 
help,please

Thank you both for the info, always learning something new! 

Rosemarie 
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Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily


On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 6:06 AM Margaret Vicente  
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Bol. Dir.= boletim direito ou direto [direct bulletin]
 
From: Ângela Loura
Sent: August 16, 2019 8:11 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto. Need a little 
help,please
 
In 1997 the guy from the archive in Ponta Delgada wrote that side note. I can't 
understand the abbreviation "Bol. Dir.".
 
#2 the sentence is tricky but basically the priest meant that both son and 
father were from the same parish (from São Pedro), and them moved on to the 
mother (from Barbara), going back to the "formal" model of the marriage 
records. Uff! 
 
A sexta, 16 de ago de 2019, 23:35, Cheri Mello  escreveu:
Side margin note #1: The marriage was dissolved by the death of the spouse, 
Maria Umbelina de Jesus, on the 31 March 1905, in the same parish, record #2. 
Then the next might be a 2nd margin note. Something happened on the 1 Oct 1997. 
I'm not sure if it's his death. There's 2 abbreviated words right after the 
(Ass. No.2).
 
On the groom's mother, yeah, it says legitimate mother. There's something 
before the dad's name too. More research is needed. Perhaps his mother died and 
he was raised by a stepmom? I've never seen this either, so perhaps a native 
speaker can shed more light on this.
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
 
 
On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 2:50 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy 
 wrote:
I have two questions on this one.  #1 what does the side note say?  It goes on 
to the next page for the side note and my second question.  #2 what is the word 
and what does it mean in front of the groom’s mother’s name?  The priest seems 
to be calling out that this is the father’s “legitimate” wife.  I don’t usually 
see that done….
 
#6, bottom right:  Manoel Soares Coelho and Maria Umbelina de Jesus
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-C-1890-1899/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-C-1890-1899_item1/P45.html
 
As always, your help is much appreciated,
 
Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
 
 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto. Need a little help,please

2019-08-17 Thread Rosemarie Capodicci 
Thank you both for the info, always learning something new!

Rosemarie
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Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily


On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 6:06 AM Margaret Vicente 
wrote:

> Bol. Dir.= boletim direito ou direto [direct bulletin]
>
>
>
> *From: *Ângela Loura 
> *Sent: *August 16, 2019 8:11 PM
> *To: *azores@googlegroups.com
> *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto. Need a little
> help,please
>
>
>
> In 1997 the guy from the archive in Ponta Delgada wrote that side note. I
> can't understand the abbreviation "Bol. Dir.".
>
>
>
> #2 the sentence is tricky but basically the priest meant that both son and
> father were from the same parish (from São Pedro), and them moved on to the
> mother (from Barbara), going back to the "formal" model of the marriage
> records. Uff!
>
>
>
> A sexta, 16 de ago de 2019, 23:35, Cheri Mello 
> escreveu:
>
> Side margin note #1: The marriage was dissolved by the death of the
> spouse, Maria Umbelina de Jesus, on the 31 March 1905, in the same parish,
> record #2. Then the next might be a 2nd margin note. Something happened on
> the 1 Oct 1997. I'm not sure if it's his death. There's 2 abbreviated words
> right after the (Ass. No.2).
>
>
>
> On the groom's mother, yeah, it says legitimate mother. There's something
> before the dad's name too. More research is needed. Perhaps his mother died
> and he was raised by a stepmom? I've never seen this either, so perhaps a
> native speaker can shed more light on this.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 2:50 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> I have two questions on this one.  #1 what does the side note say?  It
> goes on to the next page for the side note and my second question.  #2 what
> is the word and what does it mean in front of the groom’s mother’s name?
> The priest seems to be calling out that this is the father’s “legitimate”
> wife.  I don’t usually see that done….
>
>
>
> #6, bottom right:  Manoel Soares Coelho and Maria Umbelina de Jesus
>
>
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-C-1890-1899/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-C-1890-1899_item1/P45.html
>
>
>
> As always, your help is much appreciated,
>
>
>
> Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto. Need a little help,please

2019-08-17 Thread Margaret Vicente 
Bol. Dir.= boletim direito ou direto [direct bulletin]

From: Ângela Loura
Sent: August 16, 2019 8:11 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto. Need a little 
help,please

In 1997 the guy from the archive in Ponta Delgada wrote that side note. I can't 
understand the abbreviation "Bol. Dir.".

#2 the sentence is tricky but basically the priest meant that both son and 
father were from the same parish (from São Pedro), and them moved on to the 
mother (from Barbara), going back to the "formal" model of the marriage 
records. Uff! 

A sexta, 16 de ago de 2019, 23:35, Cheri Mello  escreveu:
Side margin note #1: The marriage was dissolved by the death of the spouse, 
Maria Umbelina de Jesus, on the 31 March 1905, in the same parish, record #2. 
Then the next might be a 2nd margin note. Something happened on the 1 Oct 1997. 
I'm not sure if it's his death. There's 2 abbreviated words right after the 
(Ass. No.2).

On the groom's mother, yeah, it says legitimate mother. There's something 
before the dad's name too. More research is needed. Perhaps his mother died and 
he was raised by a stepmom? I've never seen this either, so perhaps a native 
speaker can shed more light on this.
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 2:50 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy 
 wrote:
I have two questions on this one.  #1 what does the side note say?  It goes on 
to the next page for the side note and my second question.  #2 what is the word 
and what does it mean in front of the groom’s mother’s name?  The priest seems 
to be calling out that this is the father’s “legitimate” wife.  I don’t usually 
see that done….
 
#6, bottom right:  Manoel Soares Coelho and Maria Umbelina de Jesus
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-C-1890-1899/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-C-1890-1899_item1/P45.html
 
As always, your help is much appreciated,
 
Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
 


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto. Need a little help, please

2019-08-16 Thread Cheri Mello 
So #2 in a nutshell: Too much vinho! LOL
Cheri Mello
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On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 5:11 PM Ângela Loura  wrote:

> In 1997 the guy from the archive in Ponta Delgada wrote that side note. I
> can't understand the abbreviation "Bol. Dir.".
>
> #2 the sentence is tricky but basically the priest meant that both son and
> father were from the same parish (from São Pedro), and them moved on to the
> mother (from Barbara), going back to the "formal" model of the marriage
> records. Uff!
>
> A sexta, 16 de ago de 2019, 23:35, Cheri Mello 
> escreveu:
>
>> Side margin note #1: The marriage was dissolved by the death of the
>> spouse, Maria Umbelina de Jesus, on the 31 March 1905, in the same parish,
>> record #2. Then the next might be a 2nd margin note. Something happened on
>> the 1 Oct 1997. I'm not sure if it's his death. There's 2 abbreviated words
>> right after the (Ass. No.2).
>>
>> On the groom's mother, yeah, it says legitimate mother. There's something
>> before the dad's name too. More research is needed. Perhaps his mother died
>> and he was raised by a stepmom? I've never seen this either, so perhaps a
>> native speaker can shed more light on this.
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 2:50 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy <
>> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I have two questions on this one.  #1 what does the side note say?  It
>>> goes on to the next page for the side note and my second question.  #2 what
>>> is the word and what does it mean in front of the groom’s mother’s name?
>>> The priest seems to be calling out that this is the father’s “legitimate”
>>> wife.  I don’t usually see that done….
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> #6, bottom right:  Manoel Soares Coelho and Maria Umbelina de Jesus
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-C-1890-1899/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-C-1890-1899_item1/P45.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As always, your help is much appreciated,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto. Need a little help, please

2019-08-16 Thread Ângela Loura 
In 1997 the guy from the archive in Ponta Delgada wrote that side note. I
can't understand the abbreviation "Bol. Dir.".

#2 the sentence is tricky but basically the priest meant that both son and
father were from the same parish (from São Pedro), and them moved on to the
mother (from Barbara), going back to the "formal" model of the marriage
records. Uff!

A sexta, 16 de ago de 2019, 23:35, Cheri Mello 
escreveu:

> Side margin note #1: The marriage was dissolved by the death of the
> spouse, Maria Umbelina de Jesus, on the 31 March 1905, in the same parish,
> record #2. Then the next might be a 2nd margin note. Something happened on
> the 1 Oct 1997. I'm not sure if it's his death. There's 2 abbreviated words
> right after the (Ass. No.2).
>
> On the groom's mother, yeah, it says legitimate mother. There's something
> before the dad's name too. More research is needed. Perhaps his mother died
> and he was raised by a stepmom? I've never seen this either, so perhaps a
> native speaker can shed more light on this.
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 2:50 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> I have two questions on this one.  #1 what does the side note say?  It
>> goes on to the next page for the side note and my second question.  #2 what
>> is the word and what does it mean in front of the groom’s mother’s name?
>> The priest seems to be calling out that this is the father’s “legitimate”
>> wife.  I don’t usually see that done….
>>
>>
>>
>> #6, bottom right:  Manoel Soares Coelho and Maria Umbelina de Jesus
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-C-1890-1899/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-C-1890-1899_item1/P45.html
>>
>>
>>
>> As always, your help is much appreciated,
>>
>>
>>
>> Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto. Need a little help, please

2019-08-16 Thread Cheri Mello 
Side margin note #1: The marriage was dissolved by the death of the spouse,
Maria Umbelina de Jesus, on the 31 March 1905, in the same parish, record
#2. Then the next might be a 2nd margin note. Something happened on the 1
Oct 1997. I'm not sure if it's his death. There's 2 abbreviated words right
after the (Ass. No.2).

On the groom's mother, yeah, it says legitimate mother. There's something
before the dad's name too. More research is needed. Perhaps his mother died
and he was raised by a stepmom? I've never seen this either, so perhaps a
native speaker can shed more light on this.
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 2:50 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I have two questions on this one.  #1 what does the side note say?  It
> goes on to the next page for the side note and my second question.  #2 what
> is the word and what does it mean in front of the groom’s mother’s name?
> The priest seems to be calling out that this is the father’s “legitimate”
> wife.  I don’t usually see that done….
>
>
>
> #6, bottom right:  Manoel Soares Coelho and Maria Umbelina de Jesus
>
>
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-C-1890-1899/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-C-1890-1899_item1/P45.html
>
>
>
> As always, your help is much appreciated,
>
>
>
> Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
>
>
>
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto. Need a little help, please

2019-08-16 Thread 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy 
I have two questions on this one.  #1 what does the side note say?  It goes on 
to the next page for the side note and my second question.  #2 what is the word 
and what does it mean in front of the groom’s mother’s name?  The priest seems 
to be calling out that this is the father’s “legitimate” wife.  I don’t usually 
see that done….

#6, bottom right:  Manoel Soares Coelho and Maria Umbelina de Jesus

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-C-1890-1899/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-C-1890-1899_item1/P45.html

As always, your help is much appreciated,

Sam (Mazatlán, MX)



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