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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Margin notes on Marriage of Manuel (Luiz) de Costa and Maria do Carmo 1856 Lagoa

2017-07-11 Thread Margaret Vicente

You are welcome.  
High time years to look out for were 1861 and 1862. 


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> On Jul 11, 2017, at 6:17 PM, JR  wrote:
> 
> Yes, thank you. It explains why so many individuals have those certifications 
> that appear to be unrelated to property, inheritance or marriage.
> 
> JR
> 
>> On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 5:29:01 PM UTC-4, Joanne wrote:
>> I wasn’t aware of this bit of history, Margaret. Thanks!
>> 
>> 
>>> On July 10, 2017 at 4:34:28 PM, Margaret Vicente (margare...@gmail.com) 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Coming in a little on this, however and reference to the margin notes.  In 
>>> 1860 there was a call to Arms as the Civil War broke out.These 
>>> certificates were proof of marriage.  The dates in between 1860-1865 will 
>>> also be reflected in every man/boy that were of age birth records.  Proof 
>>> of age.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jul 7, 2017, at 8:48 AM, Richard Francis Pimentel  
 wrote:
 
 It would be speculation on my part as to why they needed a certificate but 
 the first thing that comes to mind is they needed for a governmental 
 purpose such as a passport or perhaps to inherit property.
 
 Rick
 
  
 
 From: azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Joanne Mercier
 Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 10:32 PM
 To: azo...@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Margin notes on Marriage 
 of Manuel (Luiz) de Costa and Maria do Carmo 1856 Lagoa
 
  
 
 Thanks, Rick - any idea why the priest would notate when certificates were 
 issued? Or why? Just curious...
 
  
 
  
 
 On July 6, 2017 at 9:40:22 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel 
 (rickre...@gmail.com) wrote:
 
 The top one is a certificate issued on 31 Mar 1862 and the second one is 
 also a certificate issued on 28 Feb 1864.
 
  
 
 Rick
 
  
 
 From: azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Joanne Mercier
 Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 9:16 PM
 To: azo...@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Margin notes on Marriage of 
 Manuel (Luiz) de Costa and Maria do Carmo 1856 Lagoa
 
  
 
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1853-1860/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1853-1860_item1/P77.html
 
  
 
 I was finally able to find the documentation on my great great 
 grandparents marriage but there are two margin notes that I’m having 
 difficulty reading. The upper is dated 31 March 1862 and the lower is 1864 
 - everything else is blurry to me. If anyone can help me decipher this 
 hard-to-read handwriting I’d really appreciate it. 
 
  
 
 Thanks!
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Margin notes on Marriage of Manuel (Luiz) de Costa and Maria do Carmo 1856 Lagoa

2017-07-11 Thread JR

Yes, thank you. It explains why so many individuals have those 
certifications that appear to be unrelated to property, inheritance or 
marriage.

JR

On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 5:29:01 PM UTC-4, Joanne wrote:
>
> I wasn’t aware of this bit of history, Margaret. Thanks!
>
>
> On July 10, 2017 at 4:34:28 PM, Margaret Vicente (margare...@gmail.com 
> ) wrote:
>
> Coming in a little on this, however and reference to the margin notes.  In 
> 1860 there was a call to Arms as the Civil War broke out.These 
> certificates were proof of marriage.  The dates in between 1860-1865 will 
> also be reflected in every man/boy that were of age birth records.  Proof 
> of age.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 7, 2017, at 8:48 AM, Richard Francis Pimentel  > wrote:
>
> *It would be speculation on my part as to why they needed a certificate 
> but the first thing that comes to mind is they needed for a governmental 
> purpose such as a passport or perhaps to inherit property.*
>
> *Rick*
>
>  
>
> *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com  [mailto...@googlegroups.com 
> ] *On Behalf Of *Joanne Mercier
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 6, 2017 10:32 PM
> *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Margin notes on 
> Marriage of Manuel (Luiz) de Costa and Maria do Carmo 1856 Lagoa
>
>  
>
> Thanks, Rick - any idea why the priest would notate when certificates were 
> issued? Or why? Just curious...
>
>  
>
>  
>
> On July 6, 2017 at 9:40:22 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel (
> rickre...@gmail.com ) wrote:
>
> *The top one is a certificate issued on 31 Mar 1862 and the second one is 
> also a certificate issued on 28 Feb 1864.*
>
>  
>
> *Rick*
>
>  
>
> *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
> azo...@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *Joanne Mercier
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 6, 2017 9:16 PM
> *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Margin notes on Marriage 
> of Manuel (Luiz) de Costa and Maria do Carmo 1856 Lagoa
>
>  
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1853-1860/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1853-1860_item1/P77.html
>
>  
>
> I was finally able to find the documentation on my great great 
> grandparents marriage but there are two margin notes that I’m having 
> difficulty reading. The upper is dated 31 March 1862 and the lower is 1864 
> - everything else is blurry to me. If anyone can help me decipher this 
> hard-to-read handwriting I’d really appreciate it. 
>
>  
>
> Thanks!
>
> Joanne Grota Mercier
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Margin notes on Marriage of Manuel (Luiz) de Costa and Maria do Carmo 1856 Lagoa

2017-07-11 Thread Joanne Mercier

I wasn’t aware of this bit of history, Margaret. Thanks!

On July 10, 2017 at 4:34:28 PM, Margaret Vicente (margaretvice...@gmail.com)
wrote:

Coming in a little on this, however and reference to the margin notes. In
1860 there was a call to Arms as the Civil War broke out.These
certificates were proof of marriage. The dates in between 1860-1865 will
also be reflected in every man/boy that were of age birth records. Proof
of age.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 7, 2017, at 8:48 AM, Richard Francis Pimentel
wrote:

*It would be speculation on my part as to why they needed a certificate but
the first thing that comes to mind is they needed for a governmental
purpose such as a passport or perhaps to inherit property.*

*Rick*

*From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com
] *On Behalf Of *Joanne Mercier
*Sent:* Thursday, July 6, 2017 10:32 PM
*To:* azores@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Margin notes on
Marriage of Manuel (Luiz) de Costa and Maria do Carmo 1856 Lagoa

Thanks, Rick - any idea why the priest would notate when certificates were
issued? Or why? Just curious...

On July 6, 2017 at 9:40:22 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel (
rickredle...@gmail.com) wrote:

*The top one is a certificate issued on 31 Mar 1862 and the second one is
also a certificate issued on 28 Feb 1864.*

*Rick*

*From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf
Of *Joanne Mercier
*Sent:* Thursday, July 6, 2017 9:16 PM
*To:* azores@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Margin notes on Marriage of
Manuel (Luiz) de Costa and Maria do Carmo 1856 Lagoa

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1853-1860/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1853-1860_item1/P77.html

I was finally able to find the documentation on my great great grandparents
marriage but there are two margin notes that I’m having difficulty reading.
The upper is dated 31 March 1862 and the lower is 1864 - everything else is
blurry to me. If anyone can help me decipher this hard-to-read handwriting
I’d really appreciate it.

Thanks!

Joanne Grota Mercier

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Margin notes on Marriage of Manuel (Luiz) de Costa and Maria do Carmo 1856 Lagoa

2017-07-10 Thread Margaret Vicente

Coming in a little on this, however and reference to the margin notes.  In 1860 
there was a call to Arms as the Civil War broke out.These certificates were 
proof of marriage.  The dates in between 1860-1865 will also be reflected in 
every man/boy that were of age birth records.  Proof of age.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 7, 2017, at 8:48 AM, Richard Francis Pimentel  
> wrote:
> 
> It would be speculation on my part as to why they needed a certificate but 
> the first thing that comes to mind is they needed for a governmental purpose 
> such as a passport or perhaps to inherit property.
> Rick
>  
> From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Joanne Mercier
> Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 10:32 PM
> To: azores@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Margin notes on Marriage of 
> Manuel (Luiz) de Costa and Maria do Carmo 1856 Lagoa
>  
> Thanks, Rick - any idea why the priest would notate when certificates were 
> issued? Or why? Just curious...
>  
>  
> On July 6, 2017 at 9:40:22 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel 
> (rickredle...@gmail.com) wrote:
> 
> The top one is a certificate issued on 31 Mar 1862 and the second one is also 
> a certificate issued on 28 Feb 1864.
>  
> Rick
>  
> From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Joanne Mercier
> Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 9:16 PM
> To: azores@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Margin notes on Marriage of 
> Manuel (Luiz) de Costa and Maria do Carmo 1856 Lagoa
>  
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1853-1860/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1853-1860_item1/P77.html
>  
> I was finally able to find the documentation on my great great grandparents 
> marriage but there are two margin notes that I’m having difficulty reading. 
> The upper is dated 31 March 1862 and the lower is 1864 - everything else is 
> blurry to me. If anyone can help me decipher this hard-to-read handwriting 
> I’d really appreciate it. 
>  
> Thanks!
> Joanne Grota Mercier
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Margin notes on Marriage of Manuel (Luiz) de Costa and Maria do Carmo 1856 Lagoa

2017-07-10 Thread Joanne Mercier

Thanks, Rick - another road to travel down… :)

On July 7, 2017 at 8:48:55 AM, Richard Francis Pimentel (
rickredle...@gmail.com) wrote:

*Rick*

*From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf
Of *Joanne Mercier
*Sent:* Thursday, July 6, 2017 10:32 PM
*To:* azores@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Margin notes on
Marriage of Manuel (Luiz) de Costa and Maria do Carmo 1856 Lagoa

Thanks, Rick - any idea why the priest would notate when certificates were
issued? Or why? Just curious...

On July 6, 2017 at 9:40:22 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel (
rickredle...@gmail.com) wrote:

*The top one is a certificate issued on 31 Mar 1862 and the second one is
also a certificate issued on 28 Feb 1864.*

*Rick*

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1853-1860/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1853-1860_item1/P77.html

Thanks!

Joanne Grota Mercier

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Margin notes on Marriage of Manuel (Luiz) de Costa and Maria do Carmo 1856 Lagoa

2017-07-07 Thread Richard Francis Pimentel

It would be speculation on my part as to why they needed a certificate but the 
first thing that comes to mind is they needed for a governmental purpose such 
as a passport or perhaps to inherit property.

Rick

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joanne Mercier
Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 10:32 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Margin notes on Marriage of 
Manuel (Luiz) de Costa and Maria do Carmo 1856 Lagoa

 

Thanks, Rick - any idea why the priest would notate when certificates were 
issued? Or why? Just curious...

 

 

On July 6, 2017 at 9:40:22 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel 
(rickredle...@gmail.com) wrote:

The top one is a certificate issued on 31 Mar 1862 and the second one is also a 
certificate issued on 28 Feb 1864.

 

Rick

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joanne Mercier
Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 9:16 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Margin notes on Marriage of 
Manuel (Luiz) de Costa and Maria do Carmo 1856 Lagoa

 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1853-1860/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1853-1860_item1/P77.html

 

I was finally able to find the documentation on my great great grandparents 
marriage but there are two margin notes that I’m having difficulty reading. The 
upper is dated 31 March 1862 and the lower is 1864 - everything else is blurry 
to me. If anyone can help me decipher this hard-to-read handwriting I’d really 
appreciate it. 

 

Thanks!

Joanne Grota Mercier

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Margin notes on Marriage of Manuel (Luiz) de Costa and Maria do Carmo 1856 Lagoa

2017-07-06 Thread Joanne Mercier

Thanks, Rick - any idea why the priest would notate when certificates were
issued? Or why? Just curious...

On July 6, 2017 at 9:40:22 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel (
rickredle...@gmail.com) wrote:

*The top one is a certificate issued on 31 Mar 1862 and the second one is
also a certificate issued on 28 Feb 1864.*

*Rick*

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1853-1860/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1853-1860_item1/P77.html

Thanks!

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Margin notes on Marriage of Manuel (Luiz) de Costa and Maria do Carmo 1856 Lagoa

2017-07-06 Thread Richard Francis Pimentel

The top one is a certificate issued on 31 Mar 1862 and the second one is also a 
certificate issued on 28 Feb 1864.

 

Rick

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joanne Mercier
Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 9:16 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Margin notes on Marriage of 
Manuel (Luiz) de Costa and Maria do Carmo 1856 Lagoa

 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1853-1860/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1853-1860_item1/P77.html

 

I was finally able to find the documentation on my great great grandparents 
marriage but there are two margin notes that I’m having difficulty reading. The 
upper is dated 31 March 1862 and the lower is 1864 - everything else is blurry 
to me. If anyone can help me decipher this hard-to-read handwriting I’d really 
appreciate it. 

 

Thanks!

Joanne Grota Mercier

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