Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of João Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge

[Eric Souza]

I did indeed miss it ... thanks for sharing the link - I'll follow up and 
will submit data.

On Saturday, August 12, 2017 at 9:18:42 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Eric S,
>
> I posted on June 5th about Blaine's study and then a reminder again on 
> June 17th. Maybe life got in the way and you missed it:
>
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/azores/bettinger%7Csort:relevance/azores/9x41hGzYawQ/ZSpaSJOzBgAJ
>
> The study is ongoing. You can submit at any time. It's just that Blaine 
> took the data that was submitted to him by June 30th and he's now rerunning 
> the stats. And he'll rerun them again in the future. Because a sample size 
> of 2 endogamous 3C2R does not make for a good sample size. But it's a 
> start. That's why I told your match maybe "something like" a 3C2R. There's 
> not good data out there for me to say with total confidence. That's why I 
> said you may even have to go back 1-2 generations further. So all the iffy, 
> fuzzy type responses. But as we all chip in to work on this puzzle together 
> (and it's REAL nice of you to create the tree of your match), it will start 
> to come into focus.
>
> (New to genealogy people: 3C2R = 3rd Cousin 2 times Removed)
> Cheri
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 8:53 AM, Eric Souza <ericchar...@gmail.com 
> > wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Cheri. I don't know about Blaine's study ... or is that the 
>> Azores project with FTDNA that I opted into? Just wanting to make sure I'm 
>> helping if there's a way to help weave the web ...
>>
>> I do think I'm getting close!
>>
>> On Saturday, August 12, 2017 at 8:47:26 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>>
>>> Eric S,
>>>
>>> Since I can see your DNA page with your match, I'll use the FTDNA 
>>> numbers. Your match may be something like a 3C2R or maybe further. There's 
>>> not good data out there for 4th, 5th, etc cousins. Maybe more people 
>>> submitted their cMs for Blaine Bettinger's study and maybe he'll be able to 
>>> report 4C and 4C1R data to us this time. We'll have to wait and see. 
>>>
>>> In the meantime, you'll probably have to go back to the 4 greats to 
>>> figure it out. Maybe 1-2 generations more. That's my best guess based on 
>>> what others have found.   Cheri
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira 
>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 8:35 AM, Eric Souza <ericchar...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have a DNA match with Julie Souza Bassett with 36.7 cM. I'm in 
>>>> GEDmatch with Kit T153402.
>>>>
>>>> I started with her grandparents, and started going back from there.
>>>>
>>>> GrandfaterJoaquin Azevedo Souza b. 2/23/1894 d. 9/10/1953
>>>> Grandmother Maria Ezilda Leonardo Souza b. 1/1/1901 d. 12/3/1987
>>>>
>>>> Here's a screenshot of what I've found so far, and believe to be 
>>>> accurate ... it's a private tree in Ancestry, so my "work in progress" 
>>>> isn't out as public fact, as I haven't found all documentation.
>>>>
>>>> Haven't found our common ancestor yet ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, August 12, 2017 at 2:31:01 AM UTC-7, nancy jean baptiste 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Eric,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> These are my ggg grandparents, Martinho and Anna. I descend from their 
>>>>> daughter, Agueda, born 1809. How do you relate to them? I don't see you 
>>>>> among my matches in the DNA project..unless you are John Souza?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Nancy Jean
>>>>> --
>>>>> *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com <azo...@googlegroups.com> on behalf 
>>>>> of Rosemarie Capodicci <rca...@gmail.com>
>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, August 11, 2017 6:48:23 PM
>>>>> *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of 
>>>>> João Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge 
>>>>>  
>>>>> Eric, 
>>>>> There marriage 15 Nov 1808 Image #85
>>>>> Martinho de Souza M

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of João Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge

[Cheri Mello]

Eric S,

I posted on June 5th about Blaine's study and then a reminder again on June
17th. Maybe life got in the way and you missed it:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/azores/bettinger%7Csort:relevance/azores/9x41hGzYawQ/ZSpaSJOzBgAJ

The study is ongoing. You can submit at any time. It's just that Blaine
took the data that was submitted to him by June 30th and he's now rerunning
the stats. And he'll rerun them again in the future. Because a sample size
of 2 endogamous 3C2R does not make for a good sample size. But it's a
start. That's why I told your match maybe "something like" a 3C2R. There's
not good data out there for me to say with total confidence. That's why I
said you may even have to go back 1-2 generations further. So all the iffy,
fuzzy type responses. But as we all chip in to work on this puzzle together
(and it's REAL nice of you to create the tree of your match), it will start
to come into focus.

(New to genealogy people: 3C2R = 3rd Cousin 2 times Removed)
Cheri

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 8:53 AM, Eric Souza <ericcharles.so...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thanks, Cheri. I don't know about Blaine's study ... or is that the Azores
> project with FTDNA that I opted into? Just wanting to make sure I'm helping
> if there's a way to help weave the web ...
>
> I do think I'm getting close!
>
> On Saturday, August 12, 2017 at 8:47:26 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>
>> Eric S,
>>
>> Since I can see your DNA page with your match, I'll use the FTDNA
>> numbers. Your match may be something like a 3C2R or maybe further. There's
>> not good data out there for 4th, 5th, etc cousins. Maybe more people
>> submitted their cMs for Blaine Bettinger's study and maybe he'll be able to
>> report 4C and 4C1R data to us this time. We'll have to wait and see.
>>
>> In the meantime, you'll probably have to go back to the 4 greats to
>> figure it out. Maybe 1-2 generations more. That's my best guess based on
>> what others have found.   Cheri
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 8:35 AM, Eric Souza <ericchar...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have a DNA match with Julie Souza Bassett with 36.7 cM. I'm in
>>> GEDmatch with Kit T153402.
>>>
>>> I started with her grandparents, and started going back from there.
>>>
>>> GrandfaterJoaquin Azevedo Souza b. 2/23/1894 d. 9/10/1953
>>> Grandmother Maria Ezilda Leonardo Souza b. 1/1/1901 d. 12/3/1987
>>>
>>> Here's a screenshot of what I've found so far, and believe to be
>>> accurate ... it's a private tree in Ancestry, so my "work in progress"
>>> isn't out as public fact, as I haven't found all documentation.
>>>
>>> Haven't found our common ancestor yet ...
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, August 12, 2017 at 2:31:01 AM UTC-7, nancy jean baptiste
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Eric,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> These are my ggg grandparents, Martinho and Anna. I descend from their
>>>> daughter, Agueda, born 1809. How do you relate to them? I don't see you
>>>> among my matches in the DNA project..unless you are John Souza?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Nancy Jean
>>>> --
>>>> *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com <azo...@googlegroups.com> on behalf of
>>>> Rosemarie Capodicci <rca...@gmail.com>
>>>> *Sent:* Friday, August 11, 2017 6:48:23 PM
>>>> *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of
>>>> João Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge
>>>>
>>>> Eric,
>>>> There marriage 15 Nov 1808 Image #85
>>>> Martinho de Souza Machado & Anna Silveira Leonardes in Topo.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rosemarie
>>>> rcap...@gmail.com
>>>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>>>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 2:44 PM, Eric Souza <ericchar...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm having difficulty with some of the names in this record ...
>>>>>
>>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/S

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of João Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge

[Eric Souza]

Thanks, Cheri. I don't know about Blaine's study ... or is that the Azores 
project with FTDNA that I opted into? Just wanting to make sure I'm helping 
if there's a way to help weave the web ...

I do think I'm getting close!

On Saturday, August 12, 2017 at 8:47:26 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Eric S,
>
> Since I can see your DNA page with your match, I'll use the FTDNA numbers. 
> Your match may be something like a 3C2R or maybe further. There's not good 
> data out there for 4th, 5th, etc cousins. Maybe more people submitted their 
> cMs for Blaine Bettinger's study and maybe he'll be able to report 4C and 
> 4C1R data to us this time. We'll have to wait and see. 
>
> In the meantime, you'll probably have to go back to the 4 greats to figure 
> it out. Maybe 1-2 generations more. That's my best guess based on what 
> others have found.   Cheri
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 8:35 AM, Eric Souza <ericchar...@gmail.com 
> > wrote:
>
>> I have a DNA match with Julie Souza Bassett with 36.7 cM. I'm in GEDmatch 
>> with Kit T153402.
>>
>> I started with her grandparents, and started going back from there.
>>
>> GrandfaterJoaquin Azevedo Souza b. 2/23/1894 d. 9/10/1953
>> Grandmother Maria Ezilda Leonardo Souza b. 1/1/1901 d. 12/3/1987
>>
>> Here's a screenshot of what I've found so far, and believe to be accurate 
>> ... it's a private tree in Ancestry, so my "work in progress" isn't out as 
>> public fact, as I haven't found all documentation.
>>
>> Haven't found our common ancestor yet ...
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, August 12, 2017 at 2:31:01 AM UTC-7, nancy jean baptiste 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Eric,
>>>
>>>
>>> These are my ggg grandparents, Martinho and Anna. I descend from their 
>>> daughter, Agueda, born 1809. How do you relate to them? I don't see you 
>>> among my matches in the DNA project..unless you are John Souza?
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Nancy Jean
>>> ------
>>> *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com <azo...@googlegroups.com> on behalf of 
>>> Rosemarie Capodicci <rca...@gmail.com>
>>> *Sent:* Friday, August 11, 2017 6:48:23 PM
>>> *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of 
>>> João Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge 
>>>  
>>> Eric, 
>>> There marriage 15 Nov 1808 Image #85
>>> Martinho de Souza Machado & Anna Silveira Leonardes in Topo. 
>>>
>>>
>>> Rosemarie 
>>> rcap...@gmail.com
>>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 2:44 PM, Eric Souza <ericchar...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm having difficulty with some of the names in this record ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879_item1/P46.html
>>>>
>>>> 16 Nov 1871, João Silveira Leonardo
>>>>
>>>> Specifically, the paternal grandfather ... is that "Mocticho" de Souza 
>>>> Machado? And paternal grandmother Anna Silveira Leonardo?
>>>>
>>>> Maternal grandparents, Francisco Joze de Azevedo and Marianna Cucicao?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> - Eric
>>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of João Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Eric,
I think your Rosie Cravaho should be Carvalho but just a suggestion to
search!

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 8:50 AM, Eric Souza <ericcharles.so...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Nancy Jean, thanks for your family information ... I see your Agueda's
> birth record here ...
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-
> CH-TOPO-B-1801-1815/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1801-1815_item1/P151.html
>
> It's entirely possible my connection with Julie goes through another of
> the branches, so that's helpful information, that we likely don't share a
> DNA link.
>
> These are such nice records!
>
> On Saturday, August 12, 2017 at 2:31:01 AM UTC-7, nancy jean baptiste
> wrote:
>>
>> Eric,
>>
>>
>> These are my ggg grandparents, Martinho and Anna. I descend from their
>> daughter, Agueda, born 1809. How do you relate to them? I don't see you
>> among my matches in the DNA project..unless you are John Souza?
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Nancy Jean
>> --
>> *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com <azo...@googlegroups.com> on behalf of
>> Rosemarie Capodicci <rca...@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Friday, August 11, 2017 6:48:23 PM
>> *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of
>> João Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge
>>
>> Eric,
>> There marriage 15 Nov 1808 Image #85
>> Martinho de Souza Machado & Anna Silveira Leonardes in Topo.
>>
>>
>> Rosemarie
>> rcap...@gmail.com
>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 2:44 PM, Eric Souza <ericchar...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm having difficulty with some of the names in this record ...
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-
>>> TOPO-B-1870-1879/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879_item1/P46.html
>>>
>>> 16 Nov 1871, João Silveira Leonardo
>>>
>>> Specifically, the paternal grandfather ... is that "Mocticho" de Souza
>>> Machado? And paternal grandmother Anna Silveira Leonardo?
>>>
>>> Maternal grandparents, Francisco Joze de Azevedo and Marianna Cucicao?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> - Eric
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of João Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge

[Eric Souza]

Nancy Jean, thanks for your family information ... I see your Agueda's 
birth record here ...
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1801-1815/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1801-1815_item1/P151.html

It's entirely possible my connection with Julie goes through another of the 
branches, so that's helpful information, that we likely don't share a DNA 
link. 

These are such nice records!

On Saturday, August 12, 2017 at 2:31:01 AM UTC-7, nancy jean baptiste wrote:
>
> Eric,
>
>
> These are my ggg grandparents, Martinho and Anna. I descend from their 
> daughter, Agueda, born 1809. How do you relate to them? I don't see you 
> among my matches in the DNA project..unless you are John Souza?
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Nancy Jean
> --
> *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com  <azo...@googlegroups.com 
> > on behalf of Rosemarie Capodicci <rca...@gmail.com 
> >
> *Sent:* Friday, August 11, 2017 6:48:23 PM
> *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of 
> João Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge 
>  
> Eric, 
> There marriage 15 Nov 1808 Image #85
> Martinho de Souza Machado & Anna Silveira Leonardes in Topo. 
>
>
> Rosemarie 
> rcap...@gmail.com 
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 2:44 PM, Eric Souza <ericchar...@gmail.com 
> > wrote:
>
>> I'm having difficulty with some of the names in this record ...
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879_item1/P46.html
>>
>> 16 Nov 1871, João Silveira Leonardo
>>
>> Specifically, the paternal grandfather ... is that "Mocticho" de Souza 
>> Machado? And paternal grandmother Anna Silveira Leonardo?
>>
>> Maternal grandparents, Francisco Joze de Azevedo and Marianna Cucicao?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> - Eric
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of João Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge

[Cheri Mello]

Eric S,

Since I can see your DNA page with your match, I'll use the FTDNA numbers.
Your match may be something like a 3C2R or maybe further. There's not good
data out there for 4th, 5th, etc cousins. Maybe more people submitted their
cMs for Blaine Bettinger's study and maybe he'll be able to report 4C and
4C1R data to us this time. We'll have to wait and see.

In the meantime, you'll probably have to go back to the 4 greats to figure
it out. Maybe 1-2 generations more. That's my best guess based on what
others have found.   Cheri

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 8:35 AM, Eric Souza <ericcharles.so...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I have a DNA match with Julie Souza Bassett with 36.7 cM. I'm in GEDmatch
> with Kit T153402.
>
> I started with her grandparents, and started going back from there.
>
> GrandfaterJoaquin Azevedo Souza b. 2/23/1894 d. 9/10/1953
> Grandmother Maria Ezilda Leonardo Souza b. 1/1/1901 d. 12/3/1987
>
> Here's a screenshot of what I've found so far, and believe to be accurate
> ... it's a private tree in Ancestry, so my "work in progress" isn't out as
> public fact, as I haven't found all documentation.
>
> Haven't found our common ancestor yet ...
>
>
> On Saturday, August 12, 2017 at 2:31:01 AM UTC-7, nancy jean baptiste
> wrote:
>>
>> Eric,
>>
>>
>> These are my ggg grandparents, Martinho and Anna. I descend from their
>> daughter, Agueda, born 1809. How do you relate to them? I don't see you
>> among my matches in the DNA project..unless you are John Souza?
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Nancy Jean
>> --
>> *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com <azo...@googlegroups.com> on behalf of
>> Rosemarie Capodicci <rca...@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Friday, August 11, 2017 6:48:23 PM
>> *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of
>> João Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge
>>
>> Eric,
>> There marriage 15 Nov 1808 Image #85
>> Martinho de Souza Machado & Anna Silveira Leonardes in Topo.
>>
>>
>> Rosemarie
>> rcap...@gmail.com
>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 2:44 PM, Eric Souza <ericchar...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm having difficulty with some of the names in this record ...
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-
>>> TOPO-B-1870-1879/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879_item1/P46.html
>>>
>>> 16 Nov 1871, João Silveira Leonardo
>>>
>>> Specifically, the paternal grandfather ... is that "Mocticho" de Souza
>>> Machado? And paternal grandmother Anna Silveira Leonardo?
>>>
>>> Maternal grandparents, Francisco Joze de Azevedo and Marianna Cucicao?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> - Eric
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of João Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

You are welcome, just glad I could help. I probably wouldn't have realized
the Leonardes if I hadn't been editing the Sao Jorge Marriage Database! It
clicked so I looked up their marriage data!

Rosemarie
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On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 8:16 AM, Eric Souza 
wrote:

> Thanks Rosemarie, you're the best!!
>
> On Friday, August 11, 2017 at 4:48:26 PM UTC-7, rcapodc wrote:
>>
>> Eric,
>> There marriage 15 Nov 1808 Image #85
>> Martinho de Souza Machado & Anna Silveira Leonardes in Topo.
>>
>>
>> Rosemarie
>> rcap...@gmail.com
>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 2:44 PM, Eric Souza 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm having difficulty with some of the names in this record ...
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-
>>> TOPO-B-1870-1879/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879_item1/P46.html
>>>
>>> 16 Nov 1871, João Silveira Leonardo
>>>
>>> Specifically, the paternal grandfather ... is that "Mocticho" de Souza
>>> Machado? And paternal grandmother Anna Silveira Leonardo?
>>>
>>> Maternal grandparents, Francisco Joze de Azevedo and Marianna Cucicao?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> - Eric
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of João Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge

[Eric Souza]

Thanks Rosemarie, you're the best!!

On Friday, August 11, 2017 at 4:48:26 PM UTC-7, rcapodc wrote:
>
> Eric, 
> There marriage 15 Nov 1808 Image #85
> Martinho de Souza Machado & Anna Silveira Leonardes in Topo. 
>
>
> Rosemarie 
> rcap...@gmail.com 
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 2:44 PM, Eric Souza  > wrote:
>
>> I'm having difficulty with some of the names in this record ...
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879_item1/P46.html
>>
>> 16 Nov 1871, João Silveira Leonardo
>>
>> Specifically, the paternal grandfather ... is that "Mocticho" de Souza 
>> Machado? And paternal grandmother Anna Silveira Leonardo?
>>
>> Maternal grandparents, Francisco Joze de Azevedo and Marianna Cucicao?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> - Eric
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of João Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge

[Donald Vasconcelos]

I'll check!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 12, 2017, at 1:57 PM, nancy jean baptiste <fishsongf...@hotmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Don, I think this is the same family but I don't have this person...I have:
> 
> 
> Adjudante,Antonio da Silveira Leonardes married to Micaela do Rosario in 1777
> 
> 
> Capitao, Caetano da Silveira Leonardes married to Antonia Maria in 1740
> 
> 
> Capitao, Francisco Teixeira Leonardes married to Luisa do Espirito Santo da 
> Silveira in 1685
> 
> 
> Any of these familiar?
> 
> 
> Nancy Jean
> 
>  
> From: azores@googlegroups.com <azores@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Donald 
> Vasconcelos <dfvasc...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 4:53:38 AM
> To: azores@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of João 
> Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge
>  
> Nancy and Eric,
> This might be how I am connected to Nancy. 
> Do you have a Francisca Maria de Jesus (b. Topo 10 Oct 1770) married Adjutant 
> Warrant Officer Francisco da Silverado Leonardo on 7 Nov 1803 in your tree?
> Don Vasconcelos
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 12, 2017, at 9:30 AM, nancy jean baptiste <fishsongf...@hotmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Eric,
>> 
>> 
>> These are my ggg grandparents, Martinho and Anna. I descend from their 
>> daughter, Agueda, born 1809. How do you relate to them? I don't see you 
>> among my matches in the DNA project..unless you are John Souza?
>> 
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Nancy Jean
>> 
>>  
>> From: azores@googlegroups.com <azores@googlegroups.com> on behalf of 
>> Rosemarie Capodicci <rcap...@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 6:48:23 PM
>> To: azores@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of João 
>> Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge
>>  
>> Eric, 
>> There marriage 15 Nov 1808 Image #85
>> Martinho de Souza Machado & Anna Silveira Leonardes in Topo. 
>> 
>> 
>> Rosemarie
>> rcap...@gmail.com
>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>> 
>>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 2:44 PM, Eric Souza <ericcharles.so...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> I'm having difficulty with some of the names in this record ...
>>> 
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879_item1/P46.html
>>> 
>>> 16 Nov 1871, João Silveira Leonardo
>>> 
>>> Specifically, the paternal grandfather ... is that "Mocticho" de Souza 
>>> Machado? And paternal grandmother Anna Silveira Leonardo?
>>> 
>>> Maternal grandparents, Francisco Joze de Azevedo and Marianna Cucicao?
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
>>> - Eric
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of João Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge

[nancy jean baptiste]

Don, I think this is the same family but I don't have this person...I have:


Adjudante,Antonio da Silveira Leonardes married to Micaela do Rosario in 1777


Capitao, Caetano da Silveira Leonardes married to Antonia Maria in 1740


Capitao, Francisco Teixeira Leonardes married to Luisa do Espirito Santo da 
Silveira in 1685


Any of these familiar?


Nancy Jean


From: azores@googlegroups.com <azores@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Donald 
Vasconcelos <dfvasc...@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 4:53:38 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of João 
Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge

Nancy and Eric,
This might be how I am connected to Nancy.
Do you have a Francisca Maria de Jesus (b. Topo 10 Oct 1770) married Adjutant 
Warrant Officer Francisco da Silverado Leonardo on 7 Nov 1803 in your tree?
Don Vasconcelos

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 12, 2017, at 9:30 AM, nancy jean baptiste 
<fishsongf...@hotmail.com<mailto:fishsongf...@hotmail.com>> wrote:


Eric,


These are my ggg grandparents, Martinho and Anna. I descend from their 
daughter, Agueda, born 1809. How do you relate to them? I don't see you among 
my matches in the DNA project..unless you are John Souza?


Best regards,

Nancy Jean


From: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> 
<azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Rosemarie Capodicci <rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 6:48:23 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of João 
Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge

Eric,
There marriage 15 Nov 1808 Image #85
Martinho de Souza Machado & Anna Silveira Leonardes in Topo.


Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 2:44 PM, Eric Souza 
<ericcharles.so...@gmail.com<mailto:ericcharles.so...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I'm having difficulty with some of the names in this record ...

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879_item1/P46.html

16 Nov 1871, João Silveira Leonardo

Specifically, the paternal grandfather ... is that "Mocticho" de Souza Machado? 
And paternal grandmother Anna Silveira Leonardo?

Maternal grandparents, Francisco Joze de Azevedo and Marianna Cucicao?

Thanks!

- Eric

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of João Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge

[Donald Vasconcelos]

Nancy and Eric,
This might be how I am connected to Nancy. 
Do you have a Francisca Maria de Jesus (b. Topo 10 Oct 1770) married Adjutant 
Warrant Officer Francisco da Silverado Leonardo on 7 Nov 1803 in your tree?
Don Vasconcelos

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 12, 2017, at 9:30 AM, nancy jean baptiste <fishsongf...@hotmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Eric,
> 
> 
> These are my ggg grandparents, Martinho and Anna. I descend from their 
> daughter, Agueda, born 1809. How do you relate to them? I don't see you among 
> my matches in the DNA project..unless you are John Souza?
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Nancy Jean
> 
>  
> From: azores@googlegroups.com <azores@googlegroups.com> on behalf of 
> Rosemarie Capodicci <rcap...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 6:48:23 PM
> To: azores@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of João 
> Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge
>  
> Eric, 
> There marriage 15 Nov 1808 Image #85
> Martinho de Souza Machado & Anna Silveira Leonardes in Topo. 
> 
> 
> Rosemarie
> rcap...@gmail.com
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
> 
>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 2:44 PM, Eric Souza <ericcharles.so...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> I'm having difficulty with some of the names in this record ...
>> 
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879_item1/P46.html
>> 
>> 16 Nov 1871, João Silveira Leonardo
>> 
>> Specifically, the paternal grandfather ... is that "Mocticho" de Souza 
>> Machado? And paternal grandmother Anna Silveira Leonardo?
>> 
>> Maternal grandparents, Francisco Joze de Azevedo and Marianna Cucicao?
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> - Eric
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of João Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge

[nancy jean baptiste]

Eric,


These are my ggg grandparents, Martinho and Anna. I descend from their 
daughter, Agueda, born 1809. How do you relate to them? I don't see you among 
my matches in the DNA project..unless you are John Souza?


Best regards,

Nancy Jean


From: azores@googlegroups.com <azores@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Rosemarie 
Capodicci <rcap...@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 6:48:23 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of João 
Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge

Eric,
There marriage 15 Nov 1808 Image #85
Martinho de Souza Machado & Anna Silveira Leonardes in Topo.


Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 2:44 PM, Eric Souza 
<ericcharles.so...@gmail.com<mailto:ericcharles.so...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I'm having difficulty with some of the names in this record ...

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879_item1/P46.html

16 Nov 1871, João Silveira Leonardo

Specifically, the paternal grandfather ... is that "Mocticho" de Souza Machado? 
And paternal grandmother Anna Silveira Leonardo?

Maternal grandparents, Francisco Joze de Azevedo and Marianna Cucicao?

Thanks!

- Eric

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of João Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Eric,
There marriage 15 Nov 1808 Image #85
Martinho de Souza Machado & Anna Silveira Leonardes in Topo.


Rosemarie
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Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 2:44 PM, Eric Souza 
wrote:

> I'm having difficulty with some of the names in this record ...
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-
> CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879_item1/P46.html
>
> 16 Nov 1871, João Silveira Leonardo
>
> Specifically, the paternal grandfather ... is that "Mocticho" de Souza
> Machado? And paternal grandmother Anna Silveira Leonardo?
>
> Maternal grandparents, Francisco Joze de Azevedo and Marianna Cucicao?
>
> Thanks!
>
> - Eric
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of João Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Eric,
Paternal:
Martinho de Souza Machado & Anna Silveira Leonardes (I think)

Maternal Francisco Jose de Azevedo & Mariana da Conceicao
Hope this helps!



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On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 2:44 PM, Eric Souza 
wrote:

> I'm having difficulty with some of the names in this record ...
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-
> CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879_item1/P46.html
>
> 16 Nov 1871, João Silveira Leonardo
>
> Specifically, the paternal grandfather ... is that "Mocticho" de Souza
> Machado? And paternal grandmother Anna Silveira Leonardo?
>
> Maternal grandparents, Francisco Joze de Azevedo and Marianna Cucicao?
>
> Thanks!
>
> - Eric
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of João Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge

[Mary Bordi]

Could it be Martinho de Souza Machado?

Mary

On Friday, August 11, 2017, Eric Souza  wrote:

> I'm having difficulty with some of the names in this record ...
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-
> CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879_item1/P46.html
>
> 16 Nov 1871, João Silveira Leonardo
>
> Specifically, the paternal grandfather ... is that "Mocticho" de Souza
> Machado? And paternal grandmother Anna Silveira Leonardo?
>
> Maternal grandparents, Francisco Joze de Azevedo and Marianna Cucicao?
>
> Thanks!
>
> - Eric
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Trouble with names ... relatives of João Silveira Leonardo, Sao Jorge

[Eric Souza]

I'm having difficulty with some of the names in this record ...

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1870-1879_item1/P46.html

16 Nov 1871, João Silveira Leonardo

Specifically, the paternal grandfather ... is that "Mocticho" de Souza 
Machado? And paternal grandmother Anna Silveira Leonardo?

Maternal grandparents, Francisco Joze de Azevedo and Marianna Cucicao?

Thanks!

- Eric

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