Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Warning about DNA Projects on Social Media.

[Cheri Mello]

I became aware that Doug was removed as an admin from his project. I don't
know what's going on. I've been busy teaching and dealing with hospice and
the nursing home for the past couple of weeks.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Warning about DNA Projects on Social Media.

[Pam Santos]

Yes MtDNA is important. I had a gentleman who was searching for my ggg
grandmother for 25years!!! I emailed him and told him I believed it was my
ggg grandmother. Luckily we found a female couisn 94 from his side and mine
which came back as positive match.

On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 8:15 PM, Steve Wright  wrote:

> Upsetting that he asking people to remove their kits from project!
>
> Colleen
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 11, 2017, at 8:05 PM, Mary Bordi  wrote:
>
> Good to know I'm not the only one wondering what's going on. I have been a
> little irritated by certain things on social media, too. Someone, not the
> "main" person, has been giving (possibly well meant but...) erroneous
> information to newbies. I can't stand to watch.
>
> I have only one mtDNA match and that's at the lowest level. But it's to a
> man whose mother's family has lived in a certain part of Portugal for
> generations. That means a lot to me! It's worth having taken the test! As
> more people test I'm sure there will be more matches.
>
> Mary
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Warning about DNA Projects on Social Media.

[Steve Wright]

Upsetting that he asking people to remove their kits from project!

Colleen

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 11, 2017, at 8:05 PM, Mary Bordi  wrote:
> 
> Good to know I'm not the only one wondering what's going on.  I have been a 
> little irritated by certain things on social media, too.  Someone, not the 
> "main" person,  has been giving (possibly well meant but...) erroneous 
> information to newbies. I can't stand to watch. 
> 
> I have only one mtDNA match and that's at the lowest level. But it's to a man 
> whose mother's family has lived in a certain part of Portugal for 
> generations. That means a lot to me! It's worth having taken the test! As 
> more people test I'm sure there will be more matches. 
> 
> Mary
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Warning about DNA Projects on Social Media.

[Mary Bordi]

Good to know I'm not the only one wondering what's going on. I have been a
little irritated by certain things on social media, too. Someone, not the
"main" person, has been giving (possibly well meant but...) erroneous
information to newbies. I can't stand to watch.

I have only one mtDNA match and that's at the lowest level. But it's to a
man whose mother's family has lived in a certain part of Portugal for
generations. That means a lot to me! It's worth having taken the test! As
more people test I'm sure there will be more matches.

Mary

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Warning about DNA Projects on Social Media.

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Thank you Colleen,  things like this damage the good relationships that 
genealogy does to bring us together.

Rick

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Steve Wright
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 8:52 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Warning about DNA Projects on Social Media.

 

Thank you for clarifying. I've seen the statements on social media and was a 
little irritated. This person seems to have a lot of hatred towards a certain 
person. I became very Leary after reading his comments.

 

Thank you for all you and the administrators due for the Azores project!

 

Colleen

Researching: Rosa, Cunha, Bettencourt from Graciosa and Silva, Machado, 
Goncalves from Terceira and Pico

Sent from my iPad


On Aug 11, 2017, at 5:30 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel <rickredle...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

I have been involved in DNA Testing for over 10 years having started with the 
National Geographic Project in 2006. During the course of the years I have read 
and learned much about DNA Testing and what it will and will not do.

I have recently learned that a DNA Group in Social Media is giving wrong and 
misleading information about DNA in an effort to draw people from legitimate 
projects sponsored by DNA testing Companies.

People are being told:  “mtDNA is still too useless until we get a massive 
increase and even then I don't think being in a project will really help. The 
only real help for mtDNA is to look at your matches and contact them. Nothing 
more is necessary“. This statement shows me a total lack of understanding DNA. 

mtDNA is useful. If two tests match at the full sequence testing level and live 
in the same geographical area. (in this case an island or better Freguesia in 
the Azores), then the odds that they have a common maternal ancestor is greatly 
increased. I recently came across a project where the founding women from the 
Arcadian region in Canada were being matched to their female descendant’s 
mtDNA.   I can guarantee that a person who tests their full sequence mtDNA with 
the results of W3a2 with a female French Canadian line are a direct maternal 
line descendant of Marie Marguarite who was born in France around 1620. So to 
say that MtDNA is useless is ignorant.

I was a family finder match with a gentleman and when I looked at his profile I 
saw he was and adoptee. I also noted he had done the mtDNA and his results were 
he was a W3a2. When I contacted him for more information he told me his 
adoptive parents were told he was of Canadian and Irish decent. I told him of 
the French Canadian W3a2’s and that gave him his first big clue in finding his 
biological mother. When I checked back with him several months later he had 
broken his maternal wall thanks to mtDNA and Autosomal DNA testing and yes 
Marie Marguarite was his maternal line.

People are also being told “The same thing goes for people who have done Family 
Finder testing. I see no reason to join a project – zero”. It is well proven 
that Autosomal DNA testing will identify relationships and rule out 
relationships. For those who have taken this test, know, Family Finder will 
give you results that help  in breaking down walls.

Why should you join a DNA Project with Family Tree DNA (FTDNA)? 

FTDNA regards privacy of the individual most important and will not release 
information to 3rd parties for research or allow open searching of results. 
Your contact information is only given to persons that you match.

FTDNA search tools are better than any which you will find on social media.

FTDNA allows you to isolate matches that belong to a single project.

FTDNA administrators are given opportunities to further their knowledge at 
yearly conferences in Houston with DNA experts such as Spencer Wells.

FTDNA administrators are held accountable for enforcing company rules in regard 
to privacy.

The FTDNA administrators will never make changes to kits unless they are 
directed by the owner of the kits or add or delete projects they belong to 
unlike the owner of this group on Facebook.

The bottom line is that this individual has a vendetta against the Azores DNA 
Project and the Portugal project because the Administrators refused to provide 
personal information that they had a fiduciary responsibility to protect.

If you feel your DNA Test logon password is compromised then I urge you to 
change it so that just you have control over your information and not any 
unscrupulous person on social media.

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

Co-Administrator Azores DNA Project.

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Warning about DNA Projects on Social Media.

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Thank you for the explanation on the mtDNA, Richard. I always think that it
is a hard test to get a good trace but you've explained how it can really
help. I will pay more attention in the future!


Rosemarie
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Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 5:30 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel <
rickredle...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have been involved in DNA Testing for over 10 years having started with
> the National Geographic Project in 2006. During the course of the years I
> have read and learned much about DNA Testing and what it will and will not
> do.
>
> I have recently learned that a DNA Group in Social Media is giving wrong
> and misleading information about DNA in an effort to draw people from
> legitimate projects sponsored by DNA testing Companies.
>
> People are being told:  “mtDNA is still too useless until we get a
> massive increase and even then I don't think being in a project will really
> help. The only real help for mtDNA is to look at your matches and contact
> them. Nothing more is necessary“. This statement shows me a total lack of
> understanding DNA.
>
> mtDNA is useful. If two tests match at the full sequence testing level and
> live in the same geographical area. (in this case an island or better
> Freguesia in the Azores), then the odds that they have a common maternal
> ancestor is greatly increased. I recently came across a project where the
> founding women from the Arcadian region in Canada were being matched to
> their female descendant’s mtDNA.   I can guarantee that a person who tests
> their full sequence mtDNA with the results of W3a2 with a female French
> Canadian line are a direct maternal line descendant of Marie Marguarite who
> was born in France around 1620. So to say that MtDNA is useless is ignorant.
>
> I was a family finder match with a gentleman and when I looked at his
> profile I saw he was and adoptee. I also noted he had done the mtDNA and
> his results were he was a W3a2. When I contacted him for more information
> he told me his adoptive parents were told he was of Canadian and Irish
> decent. I told him of the French Canadian W3a2’s and that gave him his
> first big clue in finding his biological mother. When I checked back with
> him several months later he had broken his maternal wall thanks to mtDNA
> and Autosomal DNA testing and yes Marie Marguarite was his maternal line.
>
> People are also being told “The same thing goes for people who have done
> Family Finder testing. I see no reason to join a project – zero”. It is
> well proven that Autosomal DNA testing will identify relationships and rule
> out relationships. For those who have taken this test, know, Family Finder
> will give you results that help  in breaking down walls.
>
> Why should you join a DNA Project with Family Tree DNA (FTDNA)?
>
> FTDNA regards privacy of the individual most important and will not
> release information to 3rd parties for research or allow open searching
> of results. Your contact information is only given to persons that you
> match.
>
> FTDNA search tools are better than any which you will find on social media.
>
> FTDNA allows you to isolate matches that belong to a single project.
>
> FTDNA administrators are given opportunities to further their knowledge at
> yearly conferences in Houston with DNA experts such as Spencer Wells.
>
> FTDNA administrators are held accountable for enforcing company rules in
> regard to privacy.
>
> The FTDNA administrators will never make changes to kits unless they are
> directed by the owner of the kits or add or delete projects they belong to
> unlike the owner of this group on Facebook.
>
> The bottom line is that this individual has a vendetta against the Azores
> DNA Project and the Portugal project because the Administrators refused to
> provide personal information that they had a fiduciary responsibility to
> protect.
>
> If you feel your DNA Test logon password is compromised then I urge you to
> change it so that just you have control over your information and not any
> unscrupulous person on social media.
>
>
>
> Rick
>
> Richard Francis Pimentel
>
> Epping, NH
>
> Co-Administrator Azores DNA Project.
>
> Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and
> Ponta Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Warning about DNA Projects on Social Media.

[Steve Wright]

Thank you for clarifying. I've seen the statements on social media and was a 
little irritated. This person seems to have a lot of hatred towards a certain 
person. I became very Leary after reading his comments.

Thank you for all you and the administrators due for the Azores project!

Colleen
Researching: Rosa, Cunha, Bettencourt from Graciosa and Silva, Machado, 
Goncalves from Terceira and Pico

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 11, 2017, at 5:30 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have been involved in DNA Testing for over 10 years having started with the 
> National Geographic Project in 2006. During the course of the years I have 
> read and learned much about DNA Testing and what it will and will not do.
> 
> I have recently learned that a DNA Group in Social Media is giving wrong and 
> misleading information about DNA in an effort to draw people from legitimate 
> projects sponsored by DNA testing Companies.
> 
> People are being told:  “mtDNA is still too useless until we get a massive 
> increase and even then I don't think being in a project will really help. The 
> only real help for mtDNA is to look at your matches and contact them. Nothing 
> more is necessary“. This statement shows me a total lack of understanding DNA.
> 
> mtDNA is useful. If two tests match at the full sequence testing level and 
> live in the same geographical area. (in this case an island or better 
> Freguesia in the Azores), then the odds that they have a common maternal 
> ancestor is greatly increased. I recently came across a project where the 
> founding women from the Arcadian region in Canada were being matched to their 
> female descendant’s mtDNA.   I can guarantee that a person who tests their 
> full sequence mtDNA with the results of W3a2 with a female French Canadian 
> line are a direct maternal line descendant of Marie Marguarite who was born 
> in France around 1620. So to say that MtDNA is useless is ignorant.
> 
> I was a family finder match with a gentleman and when I looked at his profile 
> I saw he was and adoptee. I also noted he had done the mtDNA and his results 
> were he was a W3a2. When I contacted him for more information he told me his 
> adoptive parents were told he was of Canadian and Irish decent. I told him of 
> the French Canadian W3a2’s and that gave him his first big clue in finding 
> his biological mother. When I checked back with him several months later he 
> had broken his maternal wall thanks to mtDNA and Autosomal DNA testing and 
> yes Marie Marguarite was his maternal line.
> 
> People are also being told “The same thing goes for people who have done 
> Family Finder testing. I see no reason to join a project – zero”. It is well 
> proven that Autosomal DNA testing will identify relationships and rule out 
> relationships. For those who have taken this test, know, Family Finder will 
> give you results that help  in breaking down walls.
> 
> Why should you join a DNA Project with Family Tree DNA (FTDNA)?
> 
> FTDNA regards privacy of the individual most important and will not release 
> information to 3rd parties for research or allow open searching of results. 
> Your contact information is only given to persons that you match.
> 
> FTDNA search tools are better than any which you will find on social media.
> 
> FTDNA allows you to isolate matches that belong to a single project.
> 
> FTDNA administrators are given opportunities to further their knowledge at 
> yearly conferences in Houston with DNA experts such as Spencer Wells.
> 
> FTDNA administrators are held accountable for enforcing company rules in 
> regard to privacy.
> 
> The FTDNA administrators will never make changes to kits unless they are 
> directed by the owner of the kits or add or delete projects they belong to 
> unlike the owner of this group on Facebook.
> 
> The bottom line is that this individual has a vendetta against the Azores DNA 
> Project and the Portugal project because the Administrators refused to 
> provide personal information that they had a fiduciary responsibility to 
> protect.
> 
> If you feel your DNA Test logon password is compromised then I urge you to 
> change it so that just you have control over your information and not any 
> unscrupulous person on social media.
> 
>  
> 
> Rick
> Richard Francis Pimentel
> Epping, NH
> Co-Administrator Azores DNA Project.
> Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
> Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores
>  
> 
>  
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Warning about DNA Projects on Social Media.

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

I have been involved in DNA Testing for over 10 years having started with
the National Geographic Project in 2006. During the course of the years I
have read and learned much about DNA Testing and what it will and will not
do.

I have recently learned that a DNA Group in Social Media is giving wrong and
misleading information about DNA in an effort to draw people from legitimate
projects sponsored by DNA testing Companies.

People are being told:  "mtDNA is still too useless until we get a massive
increase and even then I don't think being in a project will really help.
The only real help for mtDNA is to look at your matches and contact them.
Nothing more is necessary". This statement shows me a total lack of
understanding DNA. 

mtDNA is useful. If two tests match at the full sequence testing level and
live in the same geographical area. (in this case an island or better
Freguesia in the Azores), then the odds that they have a common maternal
ancestor is greatly increased. I recently came across a project where the
founding women from the Arcadian region in Canada were being matched to
their female descendant's mtDNA.   I can guarantee that a person who tests
their full sequence mtDNA with the results of W3a2 with a female French
Canadian line are a direct maternal line descendant of Marie Marguarite who
was born in France around 1620. So to say that MtDNA is useless is ignorant.

I was a family finder match with a gentleman and when I looked at his
profile I saw he was and adoptee. I also noted he had done the mtDNA and his
results were he was a W3a2. When I contacted him for more information he
told me his adoptive parents were told he was of Canadian and Irish decent.
I told him of the French Canadian W3a2's and that gave him his first big
clue in finding his biological mother. When I checked back with him several
months later he had broken his maternal wall thanks to mtDNA and Autosomal
DNA testing and yes Marie Marguarite was his maternal line.

People are also being told "The same thing goes for people who have done
Family Finder testing. I see no reason to join a project - zero". It is well
proven that Autosomal DNA testing will identify relationships and rule out
relationships. For those who have taken this test, know, Family Finder will
give you results that help  in breaking down walls.

Why should you join a DNA Project with Family Tree DNA (FTDNA)? 

FTDNA regards privacy of the individual most important and will not release
information to 3rd parties for research or allow open searching of results.
Your contact information is only given to persons that you match.

FTDNA search tools are better than any which you will find on social media.

FTDNA allows you to isolate matches that belong to a single project.

FTDNA administrators are given opportunities to further their knowledge at
yearly conferences in Houston with DNA experts such as Spencer Wells.

FTDNA administrators are held accountable for enforcing company rules in
regard to privacy.

The FTDNA administrators will never make changes to kits unless they are
directed by the owner of the kits or add or delete projects they belong to
unlike the owner of this group on Facebook.

The bottom line is that this individual has a vendetta against the Azores
DNA Project and the Portugal project because the Administrators refused to
provide personal information that they had a fiduciary responsibility to
protect.

If you feel your DNA Test logon password is compromised then I urge you to
change it so that just you have control over your information and not any
unscrupulous person on social media.

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

Co-Administrator Azores DNA Project.

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

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