RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Digest for azores@googlegroups.com - 16 Messages in 9 Topics

[Hermano C. Pires]

Marcos and group!

For all those who can read Portuguse, for Revista Micheaelense try this site.

Hermano
 http://www.archive.org/stream/revistamichaelen0618pont#page/171/mode/1up


Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 10:02:38 -0200
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Digest for azores@googlegroups.com - 16 
Messages in 9 Topics
From: rapos...@gmail.com
To: azores@googlegroups.com


Hi, Margaret, hi, John,
 
Thanks, you are both incredible!  May I add to the list I made to Margaret yet 
another son of Tomé Raposo and Sebastiana da Costa, just pointed out by John.  
Allow me to quote:
 
"marra...@cs.com Jan 12 04:42PM -0500 
There is also their son Domingos Raposo born in S. José, who married 
Antónia Carvalho, also of S. José along with her parents, Domingos Dias and 
Maria 
Carvalho, on 27 April 1730 in S. José.
John Miranda Raposo"

By the way, have you noticed Revista Michaelense, at Google Books?  There are 
lots of genealogical information there, but only a few lines on each name can 
be seen on-line.  
 
Thank you  both, again and again,
Marcos.
 
2010/1/13 


  Today's Topic Summary
Group: http://groups.google.com/group/azores/topics


Marriage records [3 Updates]
Digest for azores@googlegroups.com - 8 Messages in 6 Topics [2 Updates]
ShirleyMay Re: Mello [1 Update]
Fregoisia on Faial for Bria St. Cres. residence [2 Updates]
Duarte's Tavern Pescadero CA [1 Update]
Pico [2 Updates]
Digest for azores@googlegroups.com - 8 Messages in 6 [1 Update]
Mello [2 Updates]
Negrito on Faial [2 Updates]
 Topic: Marriage records
Tish M  Jan 12 05:39PM -0800 ^

 
Hi Margaret,
My husband and I have finished the baptisms from Santa Barbara, Santa Maria
and I am now
on to the marriages. Now I need a few new Portuguese words. What words will
tip me off as
to if the nubentes were related.
Thanks in advance,
Tish
 
-- 
sfig
Researching
Island: Santa Maria
Freguesia: Santa Barbara

 

Margaret Vicente  Jan 12 10:17PM -0500 ^

 
Hi Tish,
 
This is for blood relations:
 
1st, 2nd and 3rd degree of consanguinity: "*primeiro, segundo e terceiro
degrau de consanguinidade de que obtiveram dispensa por sentença
apostolica*".
 
 
Also, watch for; 1st, 2nd, and 3rd degree of licit affinity. It usually
reads like this;
 
"*alem do primeiro, segundo e terceiro grau de afinidade licita, de que
obtiveram dispensa por sentença apostolica*".
 
An exammple of "licit" would be when in-laws remarry each other after their
respective husband/wife pass away, and or any other similar "legal"
relationship.
 
Margaret Vicente
 
 

 

Sam Koester  Jan 12 07:53PM -0800 ^

 
Tish; If you should come across any records on Cordeiro, Soares, 
Coelho, Tavares do Rego; I would greatly appreciate you sharing them 
with me. Many thanks in advance, Sam in CA
 
Sam in CA researching: Cordeiro,Soares, Coelho, Tavares
do Rego in Santa Maria; Faria in Pedro Miguel, Faial;
Fraga in Sao Jorge and Silva (island unknown).
 
 
On 1/12/2010 5:39 PM, Tish M wrote:

 

 Topic: Digest for azores@googlegroups.com - 8 Messages in 6 Topics
Marcos Arruda Raposo  Jan 12 11:27AM -0200 ^

 
Margaret,
 
Here is what I know about the sons of *Tomé Raposo* (who died before 1734)
and *Sebastiana da Costa. * In the marriage record of their son António it
says that Tomé and Sebastiana were from Arrifes:
 
*Antonio Raposo* married Vitoria Cordeiro, daughter of Bartolomeu Afonso
Sardinha and Teresa Ferreira in Relva, 1721. Since men used to first marry
at 25, let's take 1696 as his probable year of birth. Vitoria died
and Antonio married Maria de São José, who was the daughter of Manuel de
Teves, of S. Antonio Além Capelas, and Maria de Souza, of S. José - Ponta
Delgada, where the marriage took place in 1744.
 
*Pedro Raposo, *christened in Patriarch S. José, married Antonia de Souza,
christened in S. Sebastião, Ponta Delgada, daughter of André de Souza and
Luzia de Almeida, in S. Sebastião, Ponta Delgada, 1734. Supposing Pedro to
be 25 then, he should have been born around 1709.
 
*Gonçalo Raposo*, christened in S. José, Ponta Delgada, married Maria
Pereira, of Bretanha, daughter of José Carvalho and Maria Pereira, in S.
Antonio Além Capelas in 1735. It's reasonable to suppose he was born by
1710.
 
*Silvestre Raposo*, christened in S. José, Ponta Delgada, married Joana
Botelho, daughter of Amaro Botelho and Francisca Pacheco in S. Antonio Além
Capelas 1n 1739. Let's assume Silvestre was born in 1714. After her death,
he married Bárbara Medeiros, christened in S. Antonio Além Capelas ,
daughter of Domingos de Souza and Teresa da Costa, in 1743, in that same
parish.
 
Except for my gfather Pedro, all the above information is the result of
a research by John Miranda Raposo.
 
Hope you will come across something. If you Raposos are from Arrifes, as
mine, there should be a connection somehow.
 
Thank you, so much,
Marcos.
P.S. - I've checked the Almanak Laemmert of Rio de Janeiro from 1880 to 1889
in quest for your 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Digest for azores@googlegroups.com - 16 Messages in 9 Topics

[Marcos Arruda Raposo]

Hi, Margaret, hi, John,

Thanks, you are both incredible!  May I add to the list I made to Margaret
yet another son of Tomé Raposo and Sebastiana da Costa, just pointed out by
John.  Allow me to quote:

"marra...@cs.com *Jan 12 04:42PM -0500**
There is also their son Domingos Raposo born in S. José, who married
Antónia Carvalho, also of S. José along with her parents, Domingos Dias and
Maria
Carvalho, on 27 April 1730 in S. José.
John Miranda Raposo"
*
By the way, have you noticed Revista Michaelense, at Google Books?  There
are lots of genealogical information there, but only a few lines on
each name can be seen on-line.

Thank you  both, again and again,
Marcos.
*
*
2010/1/13 
>

>   Today's Topic Summary
>
> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/azores/topics
>
>- Marriage 
> records[3
>  Updates]
>- Digest for azores@googlegroups.com - 8 Messages in 6 
> Topics[2
>  Updates]
>- ShirleyMay Re: 
> Mello[1
>  Update]
>- Fregoisia on Faial for Bria St. Cres. 
> residence[2
>  Updates]
>- Duarte's Tavern Pescadero 
> CA[1
>  Update]
>- 
> Pico[2
>  Updates]
>- Digest for azores@googlegroups.com - 8 Messages in 
> 6[1
>  Update]
>- 
> Mello[2
>  Updates]
>- Negrito on 
> Faial[2
>  Updates]
>
>  Topic: Marriage 
> records
>
>Tish M  Jan 12 05:39PM -0800 
> ^
>
>Hi Margaret,
>My husband and I have finished the baptisms from Santa Barbara, Santa
>Maria
>and I am now
>on to the marriages. Now I need a few new Portuguese words. What words
>will
>tip me off as
>to if the nubentes were related.
>Thanks in advance,
>Tish
>
>--
>sfig
>Researching
>Island: Santa Maria
>Freguesia: Santa Barbara
>
>
>
>
>Margaret Vicente  Jan 12 10:17PM -0500 
> ^
>
>Hi Tish,
>
>This is for blood relations:
>
>1st, 2nd and 3rd degree of consanguinity: "*primeiro, segundo e
>terceiro
>degrau de consanguinidade de que obtiveram dispensa por sentença
>apostolica*".
>
>
>Also, watch for; 1st, 2nd, and 3rd degree of licit affinity. It usually
>reads like this;
>
>"*alem do primeiro, segundo e terceiro grau de afinidade licita, de que
>obtiveram dispensa por sentença apostolica*".
>
>An exammple of "licit" would be when in-laws remarry each other after
>their
>respective husband/wife pass away, and or any other similar "legal"
>relationship.
>
>Margaret Vicente
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Sam Koester  Jan 12 07:53PM -0800 
> ^
>
>Tish; If you should come across any records on Cordeiro, Soares,
>Coelho, Tavares do Rego; I would greatly appreciate you sharing them
>with me. Many thanks in advance, Sam in CA
>
>Sam in CA researching: Cordeiro,Soares, Coelho, Tavares
>do Rego in Santa Maria; Faria in Pedro Miguel, Faial;
>Fraga in Sao Jorge and Silva (island unknown).
>
>
>On 1/12/2010 5:39 PM, Tish M wrote:
>
>
>
>  Topic: Digest for azores@googlegroups.com - 8 Messages in 6 
> Topics
>
>Marcos Arruda Raposo  Jan