RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name patterns in genealogy programs

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

I had to go back and correct over 2000 names several years ago. Today I am up 
to 8200. It took me several weeks to make corrections but eventually, I had it 
done.

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

 

 

 

From: 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] 
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Thanks Rick.   So many things I should have paid closer attention to when I 
first started using my genealogy program.

 

Sam (Mazatlán, MX)

 

From: Richard Francis Pimentel <mailto:richard.francis.pimen...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Saturday, March 2, 2019 11:16 AM
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Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name patterns in genealogy programs

 

Something else I thought of this morning is that if you have a person like 
“Maria de Jesus” and no last name you enter “Maria de Jesus   
\\”  the program would then leave the last name blank otherwise it would 
arbitrarily assign “Jesus” as the last name. You can try entering names in 
different ways and then check on how everything sorts when you do a search.

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

 

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cheri Mello
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 7:18 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name patterns in genealogy programs

 

I believe Rick is correct. I'm not a FTM user, but I don't think that program 
asks for Given Names and then Last Name. I think it just asks for Name and does 
the American thing of assuming the very last name is the surname. It doesn't 
work that way in all countries. 


Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

 

 

On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 4:07 PM Richard Francis Pimentel 
 wrote:

That is the same method I use in TMG. Sorting and searching by last name is 
much easier without the de’s, da’s, do’s, and dos’s, and of course it prints 
out in the right order.  In FTM the last time I used it you had to use I think 
back-slashes at each end of the last name for example: Maria da Gloria de 
\Sousa\.  Then the program would treat  Sousa as the last name 

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rosemarie Capodicci
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 6:32 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name patterns in genealogy programs

 

Sam,

I use Legacy but when I am in the "Given " name field, I write it as Maria da 
Gloria de and then Sousa in the "Surname" Field. When it prints out it comes 
out Maria da Gloria de Sousa all in a row. I would think that FTM does the 
same? 

 

Rosemarie 

 <mailto:rcap...@gmail.com> rcap...@gmail.com

Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,

Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

 

 

On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 3:02 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy 
 wrote:

Hi all;  I’ve been trying to see if I can follow Cheri’s procedure in my 
familytreemaker program.  That is First name/names followed by de/da/do and 
surname only in surname field.  So far, I only see one space for inputting the 
name and it is for the full name.  Am I missing something?  Is there a work 
around?

 

Thanks all,

 

Sam (Mazatlán, MX)

 

 


 
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name patterns in genealogy programs

['Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy]

Thanks Rick.   So many things I should have paid closer attention to when I 
first started using my genealogy program.

Sam (Mazatlán, MX)

From: Richard Francis Pimentel
Sent: Saturday, March 2, 2019 11:16 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name patterns in genealogy programs

Something else I thought of this morning is that if you have a person like 
“Maria de Jesus” and no last name you enter “Maria de Jesus \\”  the program 
would then leave the last name blank otherwise it would arbitrarily assign 
“Jesus” as the last name. You can try entering names in different ways and then 
check on how everything sorts when you do a search.

Rick
Richard Francis Pimentel
Epping, NH




From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cheri Mello
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 7:18 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name patterns in genealogy programs

I believe Rick is correct. I'm not a FTM user, but I don't think that program 
asks for Given Names and then Last Name. I think it just asks for Name and does 
the American thing of assuming the very last name is the surname. It doesn't 
work that way in all countries. 

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 4:07 PM Richard Francis Pimentel 
 wrote:
That is the same method I use in TMG. Sorting and searching by last name is 
much easier without the de’s, da’s, do’s, and dos’s, and of course it prints 
out in the right order.  In FTM the last time I used it you had to use I think 
back-slashes at each end of the last name for example: Maria da Gloria de 
\Sousa\.  Then the program would treat  Sousa as the last name 
 
Rick
Richard Francis Pimentel
Epping, NH
 
From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rosemarie Capodicci
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 6:32 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name patterns in genealogy programs
 
Sam,
I use Legacy but when I am in the "Given " name field, I write it as Maria da 
Gloria de and then Sousa in the "Surname" Field. When it prints out it comes 
out Maria da Gloria de Sousa all in a row. I would think that FTM does the 
same? 
 
Rosemarie 
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
 
 
On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 3:02 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy 
 wrote:
Hi all;  I’ve been trying to see if I can follow Cheri’s procedure in my 
familytreemaker program.  That is First name/names followed by de/da/do and 
surname only in surname field.  So far, I only see one space for inputting the 
name and it is for the full name.  Am I missing something?  Is there a work 
around?
 
Thanks all,
 
Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
 
 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name patterns in genealogy programs

['Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy]

Messages crossed in ciber space.  LOL!

Sam (Mazatlán, MX)

From: Cheri Mello
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 5:48 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name patterns in genealogy programs

Sam, maybe you missed Rick's response. You put backslashes around the \surname\.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 4:41 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy 
 wrote:
Rosemarie;  Unfortunately, the FamilyTree program only has a “name” field with 
one blank line.  Unless, there is a way I am not aware of, entirely possible, 
to change it to  “Given” and “Surname” fields.  If any FamilyTree users out 
there know of a way to do that, I would sure appreciate you sharing.
 
Thanks,
 
Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
 
From: Rosemarie Capodicci
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 4:32 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name patterns in genealogy programs
 
Sam,
I use Legacy but when I am in the "Given " name field, I write it as Maria da 
Gloria de and then Sousa in the "Surname" Field. When it prints out it comes 
out Maria da Gloria de Sousa all in a row. I would think that FTM does the 
same? 
 
Rosemarie 
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
 
 
On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 3:02 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy 
 wrote:
Hi all;  I’ve been trying to see if I can follow Cheri’s procedure in my 
familytreemaker program.  That is First name/names followed by de/da/do and 
surname only in surname field.  So far, I only see one space for inputting the 
name and it is for the full name.  Am I missing something?  Is there a work 
around?
 
Thanks all,
 
Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
 
 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name patterns in genealogy programs

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Wow, that's too bad! Maybe you need to do the name as Richard says with the
/Sousa/ around the 'Surname'? That's what we used to have to do with PAF.

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily


On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 4:41 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Rosemarie;  Unfortunately, the FamilyTree program only has a “name” field
> with one blank line.  Unless, there is a way I am not aware of, entirely
> possible, to change it to  “Given” and “Surname” fields.  If any FamilyTree
> users out there know of a way to do that, I would sure appreciate you
> sharing.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
>
>
>
> *From: *Rosemarie Capodicci 
> *Sent: *Friday, March 1, 2019 4:32 PM
> *To: *azores@googlegroups.com
> *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name patterns in genealogy programs
>
>
>
> Sam,
>
> I use Legacy but when I am in the "Given " name field, I write it as Maria
> da Gloria de and then Sousa in the "Surname" Field. When it prints out it
> comes out Maria da Gloria de Sousa all in a row. I would think that FTM
> does the same?
>
>
>
> Rosemarie
>
> rcap...@gmail.com
>
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 3:02 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all;  I’ve been trying to see if I can follow Cheri’s procedure in my
> familytreemaker program.  That is First name/names followed by de/da/do and
> surname only in surname field.  So far, I only see one space for inputting
> the name and it is for the full name.  Am I missing something?  Is there a
> work around?
>
>
>
> Thanks all,
>
>
>
> Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
>
>
>
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name patterns in genealogy programs

[Cheri Mello]

Sam, maybe you missed Rick's response. You put backslashes around the
\surname\.
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 4:41 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Rosemarie;  Unfortunately, the FamilyTree program only has a “name” field
> with one blank line.  Unless, there is a way I am not aware of, entirely
> possible, to change it to  “Given” and “Surname” fields.  If any FamilyTree
> users out there know of a way to do that, I would sure appreciate you
> sharing.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
>
>
>
> *From: *Rosemarie Capodicci 
> *Sent: *Friday, March 1, 2019 4:32 PM
> *To: *azores@googlegroups.com
> *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name patterns in genealogy programs
>
>
>
> Sam,
>
> I use Legacy but when I am in the "Given " name field, I write it as Maria
> da Gloria de and then Sousa in the "Surname" Field. When it prints out it
> comes out Maria da Gloria de Sousa all in a row. I would think that FTM
> does the same?
>
>
>
> Rosemarie
>
> rcap...@gmail.com
>
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 3:02 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all;  I’ve been trying to see if I can follow Cheri’s procedure in my
> familytreemaker program.  That is First name/names followed by de/da/do and
> surname only in surname field.  So far, I only see one space for inputting
> the name and it is for the full name.  Am I missing something?  Is there a
> work around?
>
>
>
> Thanks all,
>
>
>
> Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
>
>
>
>
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['Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy]

Rick and Cheri;  Thanks so much for this info.  Now that you’ve said it, I 
recall having read that before.  If only I had been intelligent enough to do it 
that way!  Now, I have some 5,000 plus names, with a large percentage being 
Portuguese and I will have to go back and add the back-slashes. Oh, dear!  
Something to keep me busy, I guess!

Sam (Mazatlán, MX)

From: Richard Francis Pimentel
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 5:07 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name patterns in genealogy programs

That is the same method I use in TMG. Sorting and searching by last name is 
much easier without the de’s, da’s, do’s, and dos’s, and of course it prints 
out in the right order.  In FTM the last time I used it you had to use I think 
back-slashes at each end of the last name for example: Maria da Gloria de 
\Sousa\.  Then the program would treat  Sousa as the last name 

Rick
Richard Francis Pimentel
Epping, NH

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rosemarie Capodicci
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 6:32 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name patterns in genealogy programs

Sam,
I use Legacy but when I am in the "Given " name field, I write it as Maria da 
Gloria de and then Sousa in the "Surname" Field. When it prints out it comes 
out Maria da Gloria de Sousa all in a row. I would think that FTM does the 
same? 

Rosemarie 
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily


On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 3:02 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy 
 wrote:
Hi all;  I’ve been trying to see if I can follow Cheri’s procedure in my 
familytreemaker program.  That is First name/names followed by de/da/do and 
surname only in surname field.  So far, I only see one space for inputting the 
name and it is for the full name.  Am I missing something?  Is there a work 
around?
 
Thanks all,
 
Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
 


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['Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy]

Rosemarie;  Unfortunately, the FamilyTree program only has a “name” field with 
one blank line.  Unless, there is a way I am not aware of, entirely possible, 
to change it to  “Given” and “Surname” fields.  If any FamilyTree users out 
there know of a way to do that, I would sure appreciate you sharing.

Thanks,

Sam (Mazatlán, MX)

From: Rosemarie Capodicci
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 4:32 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name patterns in genealogy programs

Sam,
I use Legacy but when I am in the "Given " name field, I write it as Maria da 
Gloria de and then Sousa in the "Surname" Field. When it prints out it comes 
out Maria da Gloria de Sousa all in a row. I would think that FTM does the 
same? 

Rosemarie 
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily


On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 3:02 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy 
 wrote:
Hi all;  I’ve been trying to see if I can follow Cheri’s procedure in my 
familytreemaker program.  That is First name/names followed by de/da/do and 
surname only in surname field.  So far, I only see one space for inputting the 
name and it is for the full name.  Am I missing something?  Is there a work 
around?
 
Thanks all,
 
Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
 


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name patterns in genealogy programs

[Cheri Mello]

I believe Rick is correct. I'm not a FTM user, but I don't think that
program asks for Given Names and then Last Name. I think it just asks for
Name and does the American thing of assuming the very last name is the
surname. It doesn't work that way in all countries.
Cheri Mello
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Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 4:07 PM Richard Francis Pimentel <
richard.francis.pimen...@gmail.com> wrote:

> *That is the same method I use in TMG. Sorting and searching by last name
> is much easier without the de’s, da’s, do’s, and dos’s, and of course it
> prints out in the right order.  In FTM the last time I used it you had to
> use I think back-slashes at each end of the last name for example: Maria da
> Gloria de \Sousa\.  Then the program would treat  Sousa as the last name *
>
>
>
> *Rick*
>
> *Richard Francis Pimentel*
>
> *Epping, NH*
>
>
>
> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Rosemarie Capodicci
> *Sent:* Friday, March 1, 2019 6:32 PM
> *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name patterns in genealogy programs
>
>
>
> Sam,
>
> I use Legacy but when I am in the "Given " name field, I write it as Maria
> da Gloria de and then Sousa in the "Surname" Field. When it prints out it
> comes out Maria da Gloria de Sousa all in a row. I would think that FTM
> does the same?
>
>
>
> Rosemarie
>
> rcap...@gmail.com
>
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 3:02 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all;  I’ve been trying to see if I can follow Cheri’s procedure in my
> familytreemaker program.  That is First name/names followed by de/da/do and
> surname only in surname field.  So far, I only see one space for inputting
> the name and it is for the full name.  Am I missing something?  Is there a
> work around?
>
>
>
> Thanks all,
>
>
>
> Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name patterns in genealogy programs

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

That is the same method I use in TMG. Sorting and searching by last name is 
much easier without the de’s, da’s, do’s, and dos’s, and of course it prints 
out in the right order.  In FTM the last time I used it you had to use I think 
back-slashes at each end of the last name for example: Maria da Gloria de 
\Sousa\.  Then the program would treat  Sousa as the last name 

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

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Rosemarie Capodicci
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 6:32 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name patterns in genealogy programs

 

Sam,

I use Legacy but when I am in the "Given " name field, I write it as Maria da 
Gloria de and then Sousa in the "Surname" Field. When it prints out it comes 
out Maria da Gloria de Sousa all in a row. I would think that FTM does the 
same? 

 

Rosemarie 

 <mailto:rcap...@gmail.com> rcap...@gmail.com

Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,

Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

 

 

On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 3:02 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy 
 wrote:

Hi all;  I’ve been trying to see if I can follow Cheri’s procedure in my 
familytreemaker program.  That is First name/names followed by de/da/do and 
surname only in surname field.  So far, I only see one space for inputting the 
name and it is for the full name.  Am I missing something?  Is there a work 
around?

 

Thanks all,

 

Sam (Mazatlán, MX)

 

 


 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name patterns in genealogy programs

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Sam,
I use Legacy but when I am in the "Given " name field, I write it as Maria
da Gloria de and then Sousa in the "Surname" Field. When it prints out it
comes out Maria da Gloria de Sousa all in a row. I would think that FTM
does the same?

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily


On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 3:02 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hi all;  I’ve been trying to see if I can follow Cheri’s procedure in my
> familytreemaker program.  That is First name/names followed by de/da/do and
> surname only in surname field.  So far, I only see one space for inputting
> the name and it is for the full name.  Am I missing something?  Is there a
> work around?
>
>
>
> Thanks all,
>
>
>
> Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
>
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