Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Please help me make sense of this couple - Sebastião de Medeiros and Joanna, São Miguel
Ha! My excuse is always the same, it is there so it needs to be visited! I'm actually planning on going to Algarve & Sao Miguel in October 2020 with 2 of my cousins for research. On Friday, 29 March 2019 09:43:06 UTC-4, JR wrote: > > Leonor, you should have stayed in the dark. Now you don't have excuse to > visit Sao Miguel;) > > Margaret thanks again! > > JR > > On Thursday, March 28, 2019 at 9:56:56 PM UTC-4, Leonor Bertoni wrote: >> >> Margaret!! Thank you so much! >> >> I was getting ready to book my trip to search for these myself! >> >> On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 21:54, Margaret Vicente >> wrote: >> >>> Good news, check the back of the book, you will find all of the 135 >>> pages. >>> >>> >>> >>> Here’s 34v >>> >>> >>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1829-1836/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1829-1836_item1/P345.html >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From: *JR >>> *Sent: *March 28, 2019 9:37 PM >>> *To: *Azores Genealogy >>> *Subject: *[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Please help me make sense of this >>> couple - Sebastião de Medeiros and Joanna, São Miguel >>> >>> >>> >>> Some interesting findings, Leonor. Go to this link, which is the index >>> for baptisms in Rosario, 1829-1836: >>> >>> >>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-I-1797-1859/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-I-1797-1859_item1/P35.html >>> >>> >>> >>> You will see Joanna, page 34 verso, filha de Antonio de Medeiros and >>> Anna Jacinta, book 1829-1836. This is a different couple than your finding >>> of Joanna. It is your missing Joanna. Now when you try to find page 34 >>> verso, it is missing!! They left out pages from about 1829-April 1833 >>> (pages 1-135). Three years of baptisms are missing! >>> >>> >>> >>> JR >>> >>> On Thursday, March 28, 2019 at 2:39:23 PM UTC-4, leonor...@gmail.com >>> wrote: >>> >>> With the help of JR, I have been able to find a bunch of information on >>> my greats (Thank you). But this one leaves me a little bit confused. (A >>> little bit is an understatement) >>> >>> >>> >>> Sebastiao is my 2nd great grandfather and Joanna is, obviously, my 2nd >>> great grandmother but in a plot twist, she's also my 2nd great aunt. >>> >>> >>> >>> Sebastiao's records are pretty consistent (until his son Victorino) but >>> Joanna leaves my head spinning. I am hoping that someone with more >>> experience can help me make sense of this. >>> >>> >>> >>> Their marriage record shows Sebastiao de Medeiros s/o Henrique Jose & >>> Maria Magdalena and Joanna Emilia d/o Antonio de Medeiros & Anna Jacinta >>> >>> >>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1832-1853/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1832-1853_item1/P330.html >>> >>> >>> >>> Sebastiao's baptismal record shows s/o Henrique Jose & Maria Magdalena >>> >>> >>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1823-1829/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1823-1829_item1/P57.html >>> >>> >>> >>> I believe this to be Joanna's baptismal record (I am still >>> looking) which shows d/o Antonio Medeiros & Helena Thomazia >>> >>> >>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1823-1829/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1823-1829_item1/P322.html >>> >>> >>> >>> What I have: >>> >>> Children of Sebastiao de Medeiros & Joanna Candida >>> >>> Manoel - Jul. 8 1850 - Pat - Henrique de Medeiros & Maria Magdalena; Mat >>> - Antonio da Costa & Maria de Jesus >>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1847-1851/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1847-1851_item1/P301.html >>> >>> Manoel - Jun. 24 1853 - Pat - Henrique de Medeiros & Maria de Jesus; Mat >>> - Antonio de Medeiros & Jacinta Thomazia >>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1851-1854/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1851-1854_item1/P242.html >>> >>> >>> >>> Children of Sebastiao de Medeiros & Joanna Emilia >>> >>> Maria - Abt. 1859 (from obit) >>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/bibli
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Please help me make sense of this couple - Sebastião de Medeiros and Joanna, São Miguel
Leonor, you should have stayed in the dark. Now you don't have excuse to visit Sao Miguel;) Margaret thanks again! JR On Thursday, March 28, 2019 at 9:56:56 PM UTC-4, Leonor Bertoni wrote: > > Margaret!! Thank you so much! > > I was getting ready to book my trip to search for these myself! > > On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 21:54, Margaret Vicente > wrote: > >> Good news, check the back of the book, you will find all of the 135 pages. >> >> >> >> Here’s 34v >> >> >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1829-1836/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1829-1836_item1/P345.html >> >> >> >> >> >> *From: *JR >> *Sent: *March 28, 2019 9:37 PM >> *To: *Azores Genealogy >> *Subject: *[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Please help me make sense of this >> couple - Sebastião de Medeiros and Joanna, São Miguel >> >> >> >> Some interesting findings, Leonor. Go to this link, which is the index >> for baptisms in Rosario, 1829-1836: >> >> >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-I-1797-1859/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-I-1797-1859_item1/P35.html >> >> >> >> You will see Joanna, page 34 verso, filha de Antonio de Medeiros and Anna >> Jacinta, book 1829-1836. This is a different couple than your finding of >> Joanna. It is your missing Joanna. Now when you try to find page 34 verso, >> it is missing!! They left out pages from about 1829-April 1833 (pages >> 1-135). Three years of baptisms are missing! >> >> >> >> JR >> >> On Thursday, March 28, 2019 at 2:39:23 PM UTC-4, leonor...@gmail.com >> wrote: >> >> With the help of JR, I have been able to find a bunch of information on >> my greats (Thank you). But this one leaves me a little bit confused. (A >> little bit is an understatement) >> >> >> >> Sebastiao is my 2nd great grandfather and Joanna is, obviously, my 2nd >> great grandmother but in a plot twist, she's also my 2nd great aunt. >> >> >> >> Sebastiao's records are pretty consistent (until his son Victorino) but >> Joanna leaves my head spinning. I am hoping that someone with more >> experience can help me make sense of this. >> >> >> >> Their marriage record shows Sebastiao de Medeiros s/o Henrique Jose & >> Maria Magdalena and Joanna Emilia d/o Antonio de Medeiros & Anna Jacinta >> >> >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1832-1853/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1832-1853_item1/P330.html >> >> >> >> Sebastiao's baptismal record shows s/o Henrique Jose & Maria Magdalena >> >> >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1823-1829/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1823-1829_item1/P57.html >> >> >> >> I believe this to be Joanna's baptismal record (I am still >> looking) which shows d/o Antonio Medeiros & Helena Thomazia >> >> >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1823-1829/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1823-1829_item1/P322.html >> >> >> >> What I have: >> >> Children of Sebastiao de Medeiros & Joanna Candida >> >> Manoel - Jul. 8 1850 - Pat - Henrique de Medeiros & Maria Magdalena; Mat >> - Antonio da Costa & Maria de Jesus >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1847-1851/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1847-1851_item1/P301.html >> >> Manoel - Jun. 24 1853 - Pat - Henrique de Medeiros & Maria de Jesus; Mat >> - Antonio de Medeiros & Jacinta Thomazia >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1851-1854/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1851-1854_item1/P242.html >> >> >> >> Children of Sebastiao de Medeiros & Joanna Emilia >> >> Maria - Abt. 1859 (from obit) >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-O-1906-1911/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-O-1906-1911_item1/P5.html >> >> Maria - Jul. 26 1863 Pat - Henrique Jose de Medeiros & Maria Thomazia; >> Mats - Antonio da Costa & Maria de Jesus >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1860-1866/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1860-1866_item1/P299.html >> >> Francisco - Sept. 25 1867 - Pat - Henrique de Medeiros & Maria >> Magdalena; Mat - Antonio da Costa Zangao & Anna Jacintha >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1867-1869/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1867-1869_item1/P32.html >> >> Victorino - Apr. 10 1872 - Pat - Joaquim de Medeiro
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Please help me make sense of this couple - Sebastião de Medeiros and Joanna, São Miguel
Margaret!! Thank you so much! I was getting ready to book my trip to search for these myself! On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 21:54, Margaret Vicente wrote: > Good news, check the back of the book, you will find all of the 135 pages. > > > > Here’s 34v > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1829-1836/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1829-1836_item1/P345.html > > > > > > *From: *JR > *Sent: *March 28, 2019 9:37 PM > *To: *Azores Genealogy > *Subject: *[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Please help me make sense of this > couple - Sebastião de Medeiros and Joanna, São Miguel > > > > Some interesting findings, Leonor. Go to this link, which is the index for > baptisms in Rosario, 1829-1836: > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-I-1797-1859/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-I-1797-1859_item1/P35.html > > > > You will see Joanna, page 34 verso, filha de Antonio de Medeiros and Anna > Jacinta, book 1829-1836. This is a different couple than your finding of > Joanna. It is your missing Joanna. Now when you try to find page 34 verso, > it is missing!! They left out pages from about 1829-April 1833 (pages > 1-135). Three years of baptisms are missing! > > > > JR > > On Thursday, March 28, 2019 at 2:39:23 PM UTC-4, leonor...@gmail.com > wrote: > > With the help of JR, I have been able to find a bunch of information on my > greats (Thank you). But this one leaves me a little bit confused. (A little > bit is an understatement) > > > > Sebastiao is my 2nd great grandfather and Joanna is, obviously, my 2nd > great grandmother but in a plot twist, she's also my 2nd great aunt. > > > > Sebastiao's records are pretty consistent (until his son Victorino) but > Joanna leaves my head spinning. I am hoping that someone with more > experience can help me make sense of this. > > > > Their marriage record shows Sebastiao de Medeiros s/o Henrique Jose & > Maria Magdalena and Joanna Emilia d/o Antonio de Medeiros & Anna Jacinta > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1832-1853/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1832-1853_item1/P330.html > > > > Sebastiao's baptismal record shows s/o Henrique Jose & Maria Magdalena > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1823-1829/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1823-1829_item1/P57.html > > > > I believe this to be Joanna's baptismal record (I am still looking) which > shows d/o Antonio Medeiros & Helena Thomazia > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1823-1829/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1823-1829_item1/P322.html > > > > What I have: > > Children of Sebastiao de Medeiros & Joanna Candida > > Manoel - Jul. 8 1850 - Pat - Henrique de Medeiros & Maria Magdalena; Mat - > Antonio da Costa & Maria de Jesus > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1847-1851/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1847-1851_item1/P301.html > > Manoel - Jun. 24 1853 - Pat - Henrique de Medeiros & Maria de Jesus; Mat - > Antonio de Medeiros & Jacinta Thomazia > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1851-1854/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1851-1854_item1/P242.html > > > > Children of Sebastiao de Medeiros & Joanna Emilia > > Maria - Abt. 1859 (from obit) > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-O-1906-1911/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-O-1906-1911_item1/P5.html > > Maria - Jul. 26 1863 Pat - Henrique Jose de Medeiros & Maria Thomazia; > Mats - Antonio da Costa & Maria de Jesus > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1860-1866/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1860-1866_item1/P299.html > > Francisco - Sept. 25 1867 - Pat - Henrique de Medeiros & Maria Magdalena; > Mat - Antonio da Costa Zangao & Anna Jacintha > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1867-1869/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1867-1869_item1/P32.html > > Victorino - Apr. 10 1872 - Pat - Joaquim de Medeiros & Maria Magdalena; > Mat - Joao de Medeiros Manteiga & Anna de Jesus > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1870-1879/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1870-1879_item1/P159.html > > > > If we say that both of these couples are the same couple, then Antonio da > Costa, Antonio de Medeiros and Joao de Medeiros are the same person as well > (Manteiga and Zangao are apelidos). Maria de Jesus, Anna Jacintha, Jacinta > Thomazia and Anna de Jesus are also the same person. Henrique Jose de > Medeiros and Joaquim de Medeiros are the same person and Maria Thomazia, > Maria Magdalena and Maria de Jesus are also the same person. It doesn't > make a whole lot of sense bu
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Please help me make sense of this couple - Sebastião de Medeiros and Joanna, São Miguel
Good news, check the back of the book, you will find all of the 135 pages. Here’s 34v http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1829-1836/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1829-1836_item1/P345.html From: JR Sent: March 28, 2019 9:37 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Please help me make sense of this couple - Sebastião de Medeiros and Joanna, São Miguel Some interesting findings, Leonor. Go to this link, which is the index for baptisms in Rosario, 1829-1836: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-I-1797-1859/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-I-1797-1859_item1/P35.html You will see Joanna, page 34 verso, filha de Antonio de Medeiros and Anna Jacinta, book 1829-1836. This is a different couple than your finding of Joanna. It is your missing Joanna. Now when you try to find page 34 verso, it is missing!! They left out pages from about 1829-April 1833 (pages 1-135). Three years of baptisms are missing! JR On Thursday, March 28, 2019 at 2:39:23 PM UTC-4, leonor...@gmail.com wrote: With the help of JR, I have been able to find a bunch of information on my greats (Thank you). But this one leaves me a little bit confused. (A little bit is an understatement) Sebastiao is my 2nd great grandfather and Joanna is, obviously, my 2nd great grandmother but in a plot twist, she's also my 2nd great aunt. Sebastiao's records are pretty consistent (until his son Victorino) but Joanna leaves my head spinning. I am hoping that someone with more experience can help me make sense of this. Their marriage record shows Sebastiao de Medeiros s/o Henrique Jose & Maria Magdalena and Joanna Emilia d/o Antonio de Medeiros & Anna Jacinta http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1832-1853/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1832-1853_item1/P330.html Sebastiao's baptismal record shows s/o Henrique Jose & Maria Magdalena http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1823-1829/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1823-1829_item1/P57.html I believe this to be Joanna's baptismal record (I am still looking) which shows d/o Antonio Medeiros & Helena Thomazia http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1823-1829/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1823-1829_item1/P322.html What I have: Children of Sebastiao de Medeiros & Joanna Candida Manoel - Jul. 8 1850 - Pat - Henrique de Medeiros & Maria Magdalena; Mat - Antonio da Costa & Maria de Jesus http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1847-1851/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1847-1851_item1/P301.html Manoel - Jun. 24 1853 - Pat - Henrique de Medeiros & Maria de Jesus; Mat - Antonio de Medeiros & Jacinta Thomazia http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1851-1854/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1851-1854_item1/P242.html Children of Sebastiao de Medeiros & Joanna Emilia Maria - Abt. 1859 (from obit) http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-O-1906-1911/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-O-1906-1911_item1/P5.html Maria - Jul. 26 1863 Pat - Henrique Jose de Medeiros & Maria Thomazia; Mats - Antonio da Costa & Maria de Jesus http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1860-1866/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1860-1866_item1/P299.html Francisco - Sept. 25 1867 - Pat - Henrique de Medeiros & Maria Magdalena; Mat - Antonio da Costa Zangao & Anna Jacintha http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1867-1869/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1867-1869_item1/P32.html Victorino - Apr. 10 1872 - Pat - Joaquim de Medeiros & Maria Magdalena; Mat - Joao de Medeiros Manteiga & Anna de Jesus http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1870-1879/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1870-1879_item1/P159.html If we say that both of these couples are the same couple, then Antonio da Costa, Antonio de Medeiros and Joao de Medeiros are the same person as well (Manteiga and Zangao are apelidos). Maria de Jesus, Anna Jacintha, Jacinta Thomazia and Anna de Jesus are also the same person. Henrique Jose de Medeiros and Joaquim de Medeiros are the same person and Maria Thomazia, Maria Magdalena and Maria de Jesus are also the same person. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense but it doesn't make any sense any other way either. Am I seeing this right? If so, how do I record this? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
