Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anthero R. Santos and Thereza Furtado, Fall River MA 1907

2017-09-08 Thread herb 
Thank you  Maragaret that is very helpful

Herb

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> On Sep 8, 2017, at 10:05 AM, Margaret Vicente <margaretvice...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Herb,
> 
> If it helps, my grandfather was an agente. After serving in the Army he 
> enrolled in the police force and became an  Agente (Policeman).
> 
>> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 11:35 PM, Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> You're going to have to trace the mother's line to figure out how he's 
>> related. 73 cMs could be something like a 3C1R, but it could be a 4th or 5th 
>> cousin too. Depends on the amount of endogamy shared.
>> 
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>> 
>>> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 8:32 PM, herb <herbandj...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>> So now we know Antherio's father was a soldier from Coimbra. Thank you JR. 
>>> Fascinating!!
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 7, 2017, at 10:57 PM, JR <jmro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1880-1889/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1880-1889_item1/P139.html
>>>> 
>>>> Record No 33, page 16, bottom right, Sept 8- 1884, Igreja de Sam Jose de 
>>>> Ponta Delgada, casou,
>>>> 
>>>> Antonio dos Santos com Maria Tereza Raposo on margin, and Maria Tereza de 
>>>> Andrade de Raposo in body of text. elle de 32 annos, solteiro, segunda 
>>>> Sargento d'artilheria, filho de Jose dos Santo e Antonia Rita, naturaes da 
>>>> freguezia da Senhora  de Assumpcao de concleho de Pena Cova , em Coimbra, 
>>>> onde elle foi baptizado; ella de vinte tres annos, solteira, domestica, 
>>>> filha de Antonio de Andrade de Raposo, e Antonia Emilia, naturaes de 
>>>> Matriz  desta cidade [Ponta Delgada], onde ella foi baptizada, e ambos 
>>>> dezobrigados nesta Igreja de Sam Jose, e moradores  na rua da Canada desta 
>>>> freguezia...
>>>> 
>>>> JR
>>>> 
>>>>> On Thursday, September 7, 2017 at 10:39:39 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>>>> Herb,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Go back and read where Anthero's mom was from.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheri Mello
>>>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
>>>>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 7:25 PM, <herba...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>>> Thank you so much Rick. Greatly appreciated.   The father  apparently 
>>>>>> was an 'agente" from Coimbra Portugal??? whatever that is..  The dates 
>>>>>> match 3 January 1888 birth date. Somehow my dad  shared 73CM of DNA with 
>>>>>> this family, which is not insignificant. Dad's  grandmother was a Santos 
>>>>>> but from Agua de Pau born 1862, so maybe the match is through some other 
>>>>>> line. The search continues, the adventure never ends.  Many thanks to all
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Herb  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> herba...@verizon.net
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>> From: Richard Francis Pimentel <rickre...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: azores <azo...@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Thu, Sep 7, 2017 9:56 pm
>>>>>> Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anthero R. Santos and Thereza Furtado, 
>>>>>> Fall River MA 1907
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Here it is from Sao Jose. 
>>>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1885-1889/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1885-1889_item1/P246.html
>>>>>> Rick
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> From: azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
>>>>>> Cheri Mello
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2017 9:06 PM
>>>>>> To: Azores Genealogy
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anthero R. Santos and Thereza Furtado, 
>>>>>> Fall River MA 1907
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> That's not Anthero. The dad isn't a Raposo or a Santos either. :(
>>>>>> Herb, you need to contact Santo Cristo in Fall

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anthero R. Santos and Thereza Furtado, Fall River MA 1907

2017-09-08 Thread herb 
I will look into this further. My father was born and raised on Rua Santana 
#28. 

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> On Sep 8, 2017, at 12:40 PM, JR <jmro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Good to know that. Thanks Margaret. 
> 
> Here is what I found Herb. When you get to Antonio Andrade Raposo and Antonia 
> Emilia marriage, the names I found do not exactly match. I was speculating it 
> was going to be the Santos Raposo line of Nordeste that I am familiar with. 
> But as you can see, it is not the same at all. Perhaps I have wrong people. 
> You may want to check it. I picked this couple based on baptism of Maria 
> Teresa Raposo:
> 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1860-1864/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1860-1864_item1/P206.html
> 
> Maria, segunda de nome, born- Dec 15- 1861, bap- Dec 21- 1861, filha de 
> Antonio de Andrade and Anna Izabel nats Matriz de Sao Sebastiao, moradore rua 
> de Santa Anna desta freg. Pat- Manoel de Andrade and Felicia Rosa; Mat- Joao 
> Jacinto and Rosa Jacinta
> ---
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1841-1854/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1841-1854_item1/P143.html
> 
> Matriz de PD, Dec 23- 1850 Antonio de Andrade cc Anna Izabel. Could not find 
> a match with Antonia Emilia.
> 
> JR
> 
>> On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 10:05:34 AM UTC-4, Mara wrote:
>> Herb,
>> 
>> If it helps, my grandfather was an agente. After serving in the Army he 
>> enrolled in the police force and became an  Agente (Policeman).
>> 
>>> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 11:35 PM, Cheri Mello <gfsc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> You're going to have to trace the mother's line to figure out how he's 
>>> related. 73 cMs could be something like a 3C1R, but it could be a 4th or 
>>> 5th cousin too. Depends on the amount of endogamy shared.
>>> 
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
>>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 8:32 PM, herb <herba...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>> So now we know Antherio's father was a soldier from Coimbra. Thank you JR. 
>>>> Fascinating!!
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 7, 2017, at 10:57 PM, JR <jmr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1880-1889/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1880-1889_item1/P139.html
>>>>> 
>>>>> Record No 33, page 16, bottom right, Sept 8- 1884, Igreja de Sam Jose de 
>>>>> Ponta Delgada, casou,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Antonio dos Santos com Maria Tereza Raposo on margin, and Maria Tereza de 
>>>>> Andrade de Raposo in body of text. elle de 32 annos, solteiro, segunda 
>>>>> Sargento d'artilheria, filho de Jose dos Santo e Antonia Rita, naturaes 
>>>>> da freguezia da Senhora  de Assumpcao de concleho de Pena Cova , em 
>>>>> Coimbra, onde elle foi baptizado; ella de vinte tres annos, solteira, 
>>>>> domestica, filha de Antonio de Andrade de Raposo, e Antonia Emilia, 
>>>>> naturaes de Matriz  desta cidade [Ponta Delgada], onde ella foi 
>>>>> baptizada, e ambos dezobrigados nesta Igreja de Sam Jose, e moradores  na 
>>>>> rua da Canada desta freguezia...
>>>>> 
>>>>> JR
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thursday, September 7, 2017 at 10:39:39 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>>>>> Herb,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Go back and read where Anthero's mom was from.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheri Mello
>>>>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>>>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira 
>>>>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 7:25 PM, <herba...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> Thank you so much Rick. Greatly appreciated.   The father  apparently 
>>>>>>> was an 'agente" from Coimbra Portugal??? whatever that is..  The dates 
>>>>>>> match 3 January 1888 birth date. Somehow my dad  shared 73CM of DNA 
>>>>>>> with this family, which is not insignificant. Dad's  grandmother was a 
>>>>>>> Santos but from Agua de Pau born 1862, so maybe the match is through 
>&

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anthero R. Santos and Thereza Furtado, Fall River MA 1907

2017-09-08 Thread JR 
Good to know that. Thanks Margaret. 

Here is what I found Herb. When you get to Antonio Andrade Raposo and 
Antonia Emilia marriage, the names I found do not exactly match. I was 
speculating it was going to be the Santos Raposo line of Nordeste that I am 
familiar with. But as you can see, it is not the same at all. Perhaps I 
have wrong people. You may want to check it. I picked this couple based on 
baptism of Maria Teresa Raposo:

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1860-1864/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1860-1864_item1/P206.html

Maria, segunda de nome, born- Dec 15- 1861, bap- Dec 21- 1861, filha de 
Antonio de Andrade and Anna Izabel nats Matriz de Sao Sebastiao, moradore 
rua de Santa Anna desta freg. Pat- Manoel de Andrade and Felicia Rosa; Mat- 
Joao Jacinto and Rosa Jacinta
---
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1841-1854/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1841-1854_item1/P143.html

Matriz de PD, Dec 23- 1850 Antonio de Andrade cc Anna Izabel. Could not 
find a match with Antonia Emilia.

JR

On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 10:05:34 AM UTC-4, Mara wrote:
>
> Herb,
>
> If it helps, my grandfather was an agente. After serving in the Army he 
> enrolled in the police force and became an  Agente (Policeman).
>
> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 11:35 PM, Cheri Mello <gfsc...@gmail.com 
> > wrote:
>
>> You're going to have to trace the mother's line to figure out how he's 
>> related. 73 cMs could be something like a 3C1R, but it could be a 4th or 
>> 5th cousin too. Depends on the amount of endogamy shared.
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 8:32 PM, herb <herba...@verizon.net > 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> So now we know Antherio's father was a soldier from Coimbra. Thank you 
>>> JR. Fascinating!!
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Sep 7, 2017, at 10:57 PM, JR <jmr...@gmail.com > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1880-1889/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1880-1889_item1/P139.html
>>>
>>> Record No 33, page 16, bottom right, Sept 8- 1884, Igreja de Sam Jose de 
>>> Ponta Delgada, casou,
>>>
>>> Antonio dos Santos com Maria Tereza Raposo on margin, and Maria Tereza 
>>> de Andrade de Raposo in body of text. elle de 32 annos, solteiro, segunda 
>>> Sargento d'artilheria, filho de Jose dos Santo e Antonia Rita, naturaes da 
>>> freguezia da Senhora  de Assumpcao de concleho de Pena Cova , em Coimbra, 
>>> onde elle foi baptizado; ella de vinte tres annos, solteira, domestica, 
>>> filha de Antonio de Andrade de Raposo, e Antonia Emilia, naturaes de Matriz 
>>>  desta cidade [Ponta Delgada], onde ella foi baptizada, e ambos 
>>> dezobrigados nesta Igreja de Sam Jose, e moradores  na rua da Canada desta 
>>> freguezia...
>>> 
>>> JR
>>>
>>> On Thursday, September 7, 2017 at 10:39:39 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Herb,
>>>>
>>>> Go back and read where Anthero's mom was from.
>>>>
>>>> Cheri Mello
>>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira 
>>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 7:25 PM, <herba...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thank you so much Rick. Greatly appreciated.   The father  apparently 
>>>>> was an 'agente" from Coimbra Portugal??? whatever that is..  The dates 
>>>>> match 3 January 1888 birth date. Somehow my dad  shared 73CM of DNA with 
>>>>> this family, which is not insignificant. Dad's  grandmother was a Santos 
>>>>> but from Agua de Pau born 1862, so maybe the match is through some other 
>>>>> line. The search continues, the adventure never ends.  Many thanks to all 
>>>>>
>>>>> Herb  
>>>>>
>>>>> herba...@verizon.net
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: Richard Francis Pimentel <rickre...@gmail.com>
>>>>> To: azores <azo...@googlegroups.com>
>>>>> Sent: Thu, Sep 7, 2017 9:56 pm
>>>>> Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anthero R. Santos and Thereza Furtado, 
>>>>> Fall Ri

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anthero R. Santos and Thereza Furtado, Fall River MA 1907

2017-09-08 Thread Margaret Vicente 
Herb,

If it helps, my grandfather was an agente. After serving in the Army he
enrolled in the police force and became an  Agente (Policeman).

On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 11:35 PM, Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com> wrote:

> You're going to have to trace the mother's line to figure out how he's
> related. 73 cMs could be something like a 3C1R, but it could be a 4th or
> 5th cousin too. Depends on the amount of endogamy shared.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 8:32 PM, herb <herbandj...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> So now we know Antherio's father was a soldier from Coimbra. Thank you
>> JR. Fascinating!!
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 7, 2017, at 10:57 PM, JR <jmro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-
>> SAOJOSE-C-1880-1889/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1880-1889_item1/P139.html
>>
>> Record No 33, page 16, bottom right, Sept 8- 1884, Igreja de Sam Jose de
>> Ponta Delgada, casou,
>>
>> Antonio dos Santos com Maria Tereza Raposo on margin, and Maria Tereza de
>> Andrade de Raposo in body of text. elle de 32 annos, solteiro, segunda
>> Sargento d'artilheria, filho de Jose dos Santo e Antonia Rita, naturaes da
>> freguezia da Senhora  de Assumpcao de concleho de Pena Cova , em Coimbra,
>> onde elle foi baptizado; ella de vinte tres annos, solteira, domestica,
>> filha de Antonio de Andrade de Raposo, e Antonia Emilia, naturaes de Matriz
>>  desta cidade [Ponta Delgada], onde ella foi baptizada, e ambos
>> dezobrigados nesta Igreja de Sam Jose, e moradores  na rua da Canada desta
>> freguezia...
>> 
>> JR
>>
>> On Thursday, September 7, 2017 at 10:39:39 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>>
>>> Herb,
>>>
>>> Go back and read where Anthero's mom was from.
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 7:25 PM, <herba...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank you so much Rick. Greatly appreciated.   The father  apparently
>>>> was an 'agente" from Coimbra Portugal??? whatever that is..  The dates
>>>> match 3 January 1888 birth date. Somehow my dad  shared 73CM of DNA with
>>>> this family, which is not insignificant. Dad's  grandmother was a Santos
>>>> but from Agua de Pau born 1862, so maybe the match is through some other
>>>> line. The search continues, the adventure never ends.  Many thanks to all
>>>>
>>>> Herb
>>>>
>>>> herba...@verizon.net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: Richard Francis Pimentel <rickre...@gmail.com>
>>>> To: azores <azo...@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Sent: Thu, Sep 7, 2017 9:56 pm
>>>> Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anthero R. Santos and Thereza Furtado,
>>>> Fall River MA 1907
>>>>
>>>> *Here it is from Sao Jose.
>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1885-1889/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1885-1889_item1/P246.html
>>>> <http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1885-1889/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1885-1889_item1/P246.html>
>>>> *
>>>> *Rick*
>>>>
>>>> *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto...@googlegroups.com] *On
>>>> Behalf Of *Cheri Mello
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 7, 2017 9:06 PM
>>>> *To:* Azores Genealogy
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anthero R. Santos and Thereza
>>>> Furtado, Fall River MA 1907
>>>>
>>>> That's not Anthero. The dad isn't a Raposo or a Santos either. :(
>>>> Herb, you need to contact Santo Cristo in Fall River for his marriage,
>>>> as Joe Mendonça suggested. That 1907 time period is the right time to be
>>>> telling the priest which freguesia you are from.   Cheri
>>>>
>>>> Cheri Mello
>>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
>>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>> --
>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
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>>>> To unsubscr

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anthero R. Santos and Thereza Furtado, Fall River MA 1907

2017-09-07 Thread Cheri Mello 
You're going to have to trace the mother's line to figure out how he's
related. 73 cMs could be something like a 3C1R, but it could be a 4th or
5th cousin too. Depends on the amount of endogamy shared.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 8:32 PM, herb <herbandj...@verizon.net> wrote:

> So now we know Antherio's father was a soldier from Coimbra. Thank you JR.
> Fascinating!!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 7, 2017, at 10:57 PM, JR <jmro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> PD-SAOJOSE-C-1880-1889/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1880-1889_item1/P139.html
>
> Record No 33, page 16, bottom right, Sept 8- 1884, Igreja de Sam Jose de
> Ponta Delgada, casou,
>
> Antonio dos Santos com Maria Tereza Raposo on margin, and Maria Tereza de
> Andrade de Raposo in body of text. elle de 32 annos, solteiro, segunda
> Sargento d'artilheria, filho de Jose dos Santo e Antonia Rita, naturaes da
> freguezia da Senhora  de Assumpcao de concleho de Pena Cova , em Coimbra,
> onde elle foi baptizado; ella de vinte tres annos, solteira, domestica,
> filha de Antonio de Andrade de Raposo, e Antonia Emilia, naturaes de Matriz
>  desta cidade [Ponta Delgada], onde ella foi baptizada, e ambos
> dezobrigados nesta Igreja de Sam Jose, e moradores  na rua da Canada desta
> freguezia...
> 
> JR
>
> On Thursday, September 7, 2017 at 10:39:39 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>
>> Herb,
>>
>> Go back and read where Anthero's mom was from.
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 7:25 PM, <herba...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you so much Rick. Greatly appreciated.   The father  apparently
>>> was an 'agente" from Coimbra Portugal??? whatever that is..  The dates
>>> match 3 January 1888 birth date. Somehow my dad  shared 73CM of DNA with
>>> this family, which is not insignificant. Dad's  grandmother was a Santos
>>> but from Agua de Pau born 1862, so maybe the match is through some other
>>> line. The search continues, the adventure never ends.  Many thanks to all
>>>
>>> Herb
>>>
>>> herba...@verizon.net
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Richard Francis Pimentel <rickre...@gmail.com>
>>> To: azores <azo...@googlegroups.com>
>>> Sent: Thu, Sep 7, 2017 9:56 pm
>>> Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anthero R. Santos and Thereza Furtado,
>>> Fall River MA 1907
>>>
>>> *Here it is from Sao Jose.
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1885-1889/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1885-1889_item1/P246.html
>>> <http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1885-1889/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1885-1889_item1/P246.html>
>>> *
>>> *Rick*
>>>
>>> *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf
>>> Of *Cheri Mello
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 7, 2017 9:06 PM
>>> *To:* Azores Genealogy
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anthero R. Santos and Thereza
>>> Furtado, Fall River MA 1907
>>>
>>> That's not Anthero. The dad isn't a Raposo or a Santos either. :(
>>> Herb, you need to contact Santo Cristo in Fall River for his marriage,
>>> as Joe Mendonça suggested. That 1907 time period is the right time to be
>>> telling the priest which freguesia you are from.   Cheri
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anthero R. Santos and Thereza Furtado, Fall River MA 1907

2017-09-07 Thread herb 
So now we know Antherio's father was a soldier from Coimbra. Thank you JR. 
Fascinating!!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 7, 2017, at 10:57 PM, JR <jmro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1880-1889/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1880-1889_item1/P139.html
> 
> Record No 33, page 16, bottom right, Sept 8- 1884, Igreja de Sam Jose de 
> Ponta Delgada, casou,
> 
> Antonio dos Santos com Maria Tereza Raposo on margin, and Maria Tereza de 
> Andrade de Raposo in body of text. elle de 32 annos, solteiro, segunda 
> Sargento d'artilheria, filho de Jose dos Santo e Antonia Rita, naturaes da 
> freguezia da Senhora  de Assumpcao de concleho de Pena Cova , em Coimbra, 
> onde elle foi baptizado; ella de vinte tres annos, solteira, domestica, filha 
> de Antonio de Andrade de Raposo, e Antonia Emilia, naturaes de Matriz  desta 
> cidade [Ponta Delgada], onde ella foi baptizada, e ambos dezobrigados nesta 
> Igreja de Sam Jose, e moradores  na rua da Canada desta freguezia...
> 
> JR
> 
>> On Thursday, September 7, 2017 at 10:39:39 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:
>> Herb,
>> 
>> Go back and read where Anthero's mom was from.
>> 
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>> 
>>> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 7:25 PM, <herba...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>> Thank you so much Rick. Greatly appreciated.   The father  apparently was 
>>> an 'agente" from Coimbra Portugal??? whatever that is..  The dates match 3 
>>> January 1888 birth date. Somehow my dad  shared 73CM of DNA with this 
>>> family, which is not insignificant. Dad's  grandmother was a Santos but 
>>> from Agua de Pau born 1862, so maybe the match is through some other line. 
>>> The search continues, the adventure never ends.  Many thanks to all
>>> 
>>> Herb  
>>> 
>>> herba...@verizon.net
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Richard Francis Pimentel <rickre...@gmail.com>
>>> To: azores <azo...@googlegroups.com>
>>> Sent: Thu, Sep 7, 2017 9:56 pm
>>> Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anthero R. Santos and Thereza Furtado, Fall 
>>> River MA 1907
>>> 
>>> Here it is from Sao Jose. 
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1885-1889/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1885-1889_item1/P246.html
>>> Rick
>>>  
>>> From: azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2017 9:06 PM
>>> To: Azores Genealogy
>>> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anthero R. Santos and Thereza Furtado, Fall 
>>> River MA 1907
>>>  
>>> That's not Anthero. The dad isn't a Raposo or a Santos either. :(
>>> Herb, you need to contact Santo Cristo in Fall River for his marriage, as 
>>> Joe Mendonça suggested. That 1907 time period is the right time to be 
>>> telling the priest which freguesia you are from.   Cheri
>>> 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anthero R. Santos and Thereza Furtado, Fall River MA 1907

2017-09-07 Thread JR 
So Antonio dos Santos, the father of Anthero, came to Ponta Delgada as a 
soldier, later married and became "agente', probably a market seller. Then 
resided on rua do Campos.

JR

On Thursday, September 7, 2017 at 10:57:43 PM UTC-4, JR wrote:
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1880-1889/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1880-1889_item1/P139.html
>
> Record No 33, page 16, bottom right, Sept 8- 1884, Igreja de Sam Jose de 
> Ponta Delgada, casou,
>
> Antonio dos Santos com Maria Tereza Raposo on margin, and Maria Tereza de 
> Andrade de Raposo in body of text. elle de 32 annos, solteiro, segunda 
> Sargento d'artilheria, filho de Jose dos Santo e Antonia Rita, naturaes da 
> freguezia da Senhora  de Assumpcao de concleho de Pena Cova , em Coimbra, 
> onde elle foi baptizado; ella de vinte tres annos, solteira, domestica, 
> filha de Antonio de Andrade de Raposo, e Antonia Emilia, naturaes de Matriz 
>  desta cidade [Ponta Delgada], onde ella foi baptizada, e ambos 
> dezobrigados nesta Igreja de Sam Jose, e moradores  na rua da Canada desta 
> freguezia...
> 
> JR
>
> On Thursday, September 7, 2017 at 10:39:39 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>
>> Herb,
>>
>> Go back and read where Anthero's mom was from.
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 7:25 PM, <herba...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you so much Rick. Greatly appreciated.   The father  apparently 
>>> was an 'agente" from Coimbra Portugal??? whatever that is..  The dates 
>>> match 3 January 1888 birth date. Somehow my dad  shared 73CM of DNA with 
>>> this family, which is not insignificant. Dad's  grandmother was a Santos 
>>> but from Agua de Pau born 1862, so maybe the match is through some other 
>>> line. The search continues, the adventure never ends.  Many thanks to all 
>>>
>>> Herb  
>>>
>>> herba...@verizon.net
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Richard Francis Pimentel <rickre...@gmail.com>
>>> To: azores <azo...@googlegroups.com>
>>> Sent: Thu, Sep 7, 2017 9:56 pm
>>> Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anthero R. Santos and Thereza Furtado, 
>>> Fall River MA 1907
>>>
>>> *Here it is from Sao Jose. 
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1885-1889/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1885-1889_item1/P246.html
>>>  
>>> <http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1885-1889/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1885-1889_item1/P246.html>
>>>  
>>> *
>>> *Rick*
>>>  
>>> *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf 
>>> Of *Cheri Mello
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 7, 2017 9:06 PM
>>> *To:* Azores Genealogy
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anthero R. Santos and Thereza 
>>> Furtado, Fall River MA 1907
>>>  
>>> That's not Anthero. The dad isn't a Raposo or a Santos either. :(
>>> Herb, you need to contact Santo Cristo in Fall River for his marriage, 
>>> as Joe Mendonça suggested. That 1907 time period is the right time to be 
>>> telling the priest which freguesia you are from.   Cheri
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira 
>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anthero R. Santos and Thereza Furtado, Fall River MA 1907

2017-09-07 Thread JR 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1880-1889/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1880-1889_item1/P139.html

Record No 33, page 16, bottom right, Sept 8- 1884, Igreja de Sam Jose de 
Ponta Delgada, casou,

Antonio dos Santos com Maria Tereza Raposo on margin, and Maria Tereza de 
Andrade de Raposo in body of text. elle de 32 annos, solteiro, segunda 
Sargento d'artilheria, filho de Jose dos Santo e Antonia Rita, naturaes da 
freguezia da Senhora  de Assumpcao de concleho de Pena Cova , em Coimbra, 
onde elle foi baptizado; ella de vinte tres annos, solteira, domestica, 
filha de Antonio de Andrade de Raposo, e Antonia Emilia, naturaes de Matriz 
 desta cidade [Ponta Delgada], onde ella foi baptizada, e ambos 
dezobrigados nesta Igreja de Sam Jose, e moradores  na rua da Canada desta 
freguezia...

JR

On Thursday, September 7, 2017 at 10:39:39 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Herb,
>
> Go back and read where Anthero's mom was from.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 7:25 PM, <herba...@verizon.net > 
> wrote:
>
>> Thank you so much Rick. Greatly appreciated.   The father  apparently was 
>> an 'agente" from Coimbra Portugal??? whatever that is..  The dates match 3 
>> January 1888 birth date. Somehow my dad  shared 73CM of DNA with this 
>> family, which is not insignificant. Dad's  grandmother was a Santos but 
>> from Agua de Pau born 1862, so maybe the match is through some other line. 
>> The search continues, the adventure never ends.  Many thanks to all 
>>
>> Herb  
>>
>> herba...@verizon.net 
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Richard Francis Pimentel <rickre...@gmail.com >
>> To: azores <azo...@googlegroups.com >
>> Sent: Thu, Sep 7, 2017 9:56 pm
>> Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anthero R. Santos and Thereza Furtado, 
>> Fall River MA 1907
>>
>> *Here it is from Sao Jose. 
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1885-1889/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1885-1889_item1/P246.html
>>  
>> <http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1885-1889/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1885-1889_item1/P246.html>
>>  
>> *
>> *Rick*
>>  
>> *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com  [mailto...@googlegroups.com 
>> ] *On Behalf Of *Cheri Mello
>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 7, 2017 9:06 PM
>> *To:* Azores Genealogy
>> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anthero R. Santos and Thereza Furtado, 
>> Fall River MA 1907
>>  
>> That's not Anthero. The dad isn't a Raposo or a Santos either. :(
>> Herb, you need to contact Santo Cristo in Fall River for his marriage, as 
>> Joe Mendonça suggested. That 1907 time period is the right time to be 
>> telling the priest which freguesia you are from.   Cheri
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
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>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anthero R. Santos and Thereza Furtado, Fall River MA 1907

2017-09-07 Thread herbandjudi 
The mom was from The matriz desta cidade, being Sao Sebastiao


herbandj...@verizon.net




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Sent: Thu, Sep 7, 2017 10:39 pm
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anthero R. Santos and Thereza Furtado, Fall 
River MA 1907



Herb,


Go back and read where Anthero's mom was from.




Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada



On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 7:25 PM,  <herbandj...@verizon.net> wrote:

Thank you so much Rick. Greatly appreciated.   The father  apparently was an 
'agente" from Coimbra Portugal??? whatever that is..  The dates match 3 January 
1888 birth date. Somehow my dad  shared 73CM of DNA with this family, which is 
not insignificant. Dad's  grandmother was a Santos but from Agua de Pau born 
1862, so maybe the match is through some other line. The search continues, the 
adventure never ends.  Many thanks to all


Herb  


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-Original Message-
From: Richard Francis Pimentel <rickredle...@gmail.com>
To: azores <azores@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Sep 7, 2017 9:56 pm
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anthero R. Santos and Thereza Furtado, Fall 
River MA 1907



Here it is from Sao Jose. 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1885-1889/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1885-1889_item1/P246.html
 
Rick
 
From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cheri Mello
Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2017 9:06 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anthero R. Santos and Thereza Furtado, Fall 
River MA 1907
 

That's not Anthero. The dad isn't a Raposo or a Santos either. :(

Herb, you need to contact Santo Cristo in Fall River for his marriage, as Joe 
Mendonça suggested. That 1907 time period is the right time to be telling the 
priest which freguesia you are from.   Cheri





Cheri Mello
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Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anthero R. Santos and Thereza Furtado, Fall River MA 1907

2017-09-07 Thread Cheri Mello 
Herb,

Go back and read where Anthero's mom was from.

Cheri Mello
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Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 7:25 PM, <herbandj...@verizon.net> wrote:

> Thank you so much Rick. Greatly appreciated.   The father  apparently was
> an 'agente" from Coimbra Portugal??? whatever that is..  The dates match 3
> January 1888 birth date. Somehow my dad  shared 73CM of DNA with this
> family, which is not insignificant. Dad's  grandmother was a Santos but
> from Agua de Pau born 1862, so maybe the match is through some other line.
> The search continues, the adventure never ends.  Many thanks to all
>
> Herb
>
> herbandj...@verizon.net
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Richard Francis Pimentel <rickredle...@gmail.com>
> To: azores <azores@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Thu, Sep 7, 2017 9:56 pm
> Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anthero R. Santos and Thereza Furtado,
> Fall River MA 1907
>
> *Here it is from Sao Jose.
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1885-1889/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1885-1889_item1/P246.html
> <http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1885-1889/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1885-1889_item1/P246.html>
> *
> *Rick*
>
> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com
> <azores@googlegroups.com?>] *On Behalf Of *Cheri Mello
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 7, 2017 9:06 PM
> *To:* Azores Genealogy
> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anthero R. Santos and Thereza Furtado,
> Fall River MA 1907
>
> That's not Anthero. The dad isn't a Raposo or a Santos either. :(
> Herb, you need to contact Santo Cristo in Fall River for his marriage, as
> Joe Mendonça suggested. That 1907 time period is the right time to be
> telling the priest which freguesia you are from.   Cheri
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anthero R. Santos and Thereza Furtado, Fall River MA 1907

2017-09-07 Thread herbandjudi 
Thank you so much Rick. Greatly appreciated.   The father  apparently was an 
'agente" from Coimbra Portugal??? whatever that is..  The dates match 3 January 
1888 birth date. Somehow my dad  shared 73CM of DNA with this family, which is 
not insignificant. Dad's  grandmother was a Santos but from Agua de Pau born 
1862, so maybe the match is through some other line. The search continues, the 
adventure never ends.  Many thanks to all


Herb  


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From: Richard Francis Pimentel <rickredle...@gmail.com>
To: azores <azores@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Sep 7, 2017 9:56 pm
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anthero R. Santos and Thereza Furtado, Fall 
River MA 1907



Here it is from Sao Jose. 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1885-1889/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1885-1889_item1/P246.html
 
Rick
 
From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cheri Mello
Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2017 9:06 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anthero R. Santos and Thereza Furtado, Fall 
River MA 1907
 

That's not Anthero. The dad isn't a Raposo or a Santos either. :(

Herb, you need to contact Santo Cristo in Fall River for his marriage, as Joe 
Mendonça suggested. That 1907 time period is the right time to be telling the 
priest which freguesia you are from.   Cheri





Cheri Mello
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Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada



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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anthero R. Santos and Thereza Furtado, Fall River MA 1907

2017-09-07 Thread Richard Francis Pimentel 
Here it is from Sao Jose.  
<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fculturacores.azores.gov.pt%2Fbiblioteca_digital%2FSMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1885-1889%2FSMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1885-1889_item1%2FP246.html=D=1=AFQjCNFya-SQJVKH3hIQz0nTvHRehizgSA>
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1885-1889/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1885-1889_item1/P246.html
 on the left side of the image

 

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Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2017 10:09 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anthero R. Santos and Thereza Furtado, Fall 
River MA 1907

 

Yes Cheri. I was hoping that I wouldn't have to write to the priest at Santo 
Cristo but looks like I am running out of options.  He has helped me before.  
The draft card says Ponta Delgada and so does  the marriage record.  Attached 
is the Fall River city marriage record. 

 

Herb

 

 

 

 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anthero R. Santos and Thereza Furtado, Fall River MA 1907

2017-09-07 Thread Cheri Mello 
Rick found it. It's in his new post.

Cheri Mello
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On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 7:09 PM, <herbandj...@verizon.net> wrote:

> Yes Cheri. I was hoping that I wouldn't have to write to the priest at
> Santo Cristo but looks like I am running out of options.  He has helped me
> before.  The draft card says Ponta Delgada and so does  the marriage
> record.  Attached is the Fall River city marriage record.
>
> Herb
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> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anthero R. Santos and Thereza Furtado,
> Fall River MA 1907
>
> That's not Anthero. The dad isn't a Raposo or a Santos either. :(
>
> Herb, you need to contact Santo Cristo in Fall River for his marriage, as
> Joe Mendonça suggested. That 1907 time period is the right time to be
> telling the priest which freguesia you are from.   Cheri
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anthero R. Santos and Thereza Furtado, Fall River MA 1907

2017-09-07 Thread Richard Francis Pimentel 
Here it is from Sao Jose. 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1885-1889/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1885-1889_item1/P246.html
 

Rick

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cheri Mello
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To: Azores Genealogy
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River MA 1907

 

That's not Anthero. The dad isn't a Raposo or a Santos either. :(

Herb, you need to contact Santo Cristo in Fall River for his marriage, as Joe 
Mendonça suggested. That 1907 time period is the right time to be telling the 
priest which freguesia you are from.   Cheri




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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anthero R. Santos and Thereza Furtado, Fall River MA 1907

2017-09-07 Thread Cheri Mello 
That's not Anthero. The dad isn't a Raposo or a Santos either. :(

Herb, you need to contact Santo Cristo in Fall River for his marriage, as
Joe Mendonça suggested. That 1907 time period is the right time to be
telling the priest which freguesia you are from.   Cheri

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anthero R. Santos and Thereza Furtado, Fall River MA 1907

2017-09-07 Thread Richard Francis Pimentel 
Herb. Here is an birth on 3 Jan 1888. This is from Sao Pedro in Ponta Delgada.  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1888-1889/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1888-1889_item1/P9.html
 

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Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2017 4:26 PM
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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anthero R. Santos and Thereza Furtado, Fall 
River MA 1907

His  WW 1 draft card has him born on 3 January 1888 in Ponta Delgada SM. I have 
made several sweeps through the 20+ paroquias of Ponta Delgada as well as 
Passports for 1901-1902 and Ellis Island arrivals.  In 130 year old priest 
scribble it's difficult to discern Antonio from Antherio or Anterio. He is 
listed in ancestry in census records  as Anthers Santos or as Antherio Raposo 
Santos. His marriage record lists Ponta Delgada as place of birth.  Tough nut 
to crack! Of course sometimes it's right there in front of us and we simply 
don't see it. Herb

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anthero R. Santos and Thereza Furtado, Fall River MA 1907

2017-09-07 Thread Herb 
His  WW 1 draft card has him born on 3 January 1888 in Ponta Delgada SM. I have 
made several sweeps through the 20+ paroquias of Ponta Delgada as well as 
Passports for 1901-1902 and Ellis Island arrivals.  In 130 year old priest 
scribble it's difficult to discern Antonio from Antherio or Anterio. He is 
listed in ancestry in census records  as Anthers Santos or as Antherio Raposo 
Santos. His marriage record lists Ponta Delgada as place of birth.  Tough nut 
to crack! Of course sometimes it's right there in front of us and we simply 
don't see it. Herb

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anthero R. Santos and Thereza Furtado, Fall River MA 1907

2017-09-06 Thread Joseph Mendonca 
Looks like they were married in Santo Christo Church.  You can try
contacting the church for the marriage record to see if it lists what
parish they were from in the Azores.

Joe M.

On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 10:11 PM, George Pacheco 
wrote:

> what was the Brides Name avwas the Groom Antero?
>
> On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 9:16 PM,  wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have this couple? They were married in Fall River on 28 Nov
>> 1907.  The groom was 20, bride was 22.  In 1907 they lived on 19 Morton
>> Street.  Groom's parents  were Antonio Santos and Maria Rapoza, supposedly
>> from Ponta Delgada.  The bride's parents were Manuel Furtado and Maria
>> Encarnacao.  The 1910 and 1920 census has him listed as Anthers Santos
>> instead of Anthero.  He immigrated with his parents in 1902
>>
>> I have checked the birth records in some of the Ponta Delgada parishes,
>> Sao Sebastiao, Sao Pedro and Sao Roque etc. and also the Ellis Island
>> records. Any information is appreciated. My father shares 73.3 CM of DNA
>> with Anthero's father, which is a fair amount of DNA.  It would be good to
>> make the connection as my great great grandmother was a Santos too.
>>
>> Herb
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anthero R. Santos and Thereza Furtado, Fall River MA 1907

2017-09-05 Thread George Pacheco 
what was the Brides Name avwas the Groom Antero?

On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 9:16 PM,  wrote:

> Does anyone have this couple? They were married in Fall River on 28 Nov
> 1907.  The groom was 20, bride was 22.  In 1907 they lived on 19 Morton
> Street.  Groom's parents  were Antonio Santos and Maria Rapoza, supposedly
> from Ponta Delgada.  The bride's parents were Manuel Furtado and Maria
> Encarnacao.  The 1910 and 1920 census has him listed as Anthers Santos
> instead of Anthero.  He immigrated with his parents in 1902
>
> I have checked the birth records in some of the Ponta Delgada parishes,
> Sao Sebastiao, Sao Pedro and Sao Roque etc. and also the Ellis Island
> records. Any information is appreciated. My father shares 73.3 CM of DNA
> with Anthero's father, which is a fair amount of DNA.  It would be good to
> make the connection as my great great grandmother was a Santos too.
>
> Herb
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anthero R. Santos and Thereza Furtado, Fall River MA 1907

2017-09-04 Thread Cheri Mello 
Hi Herb,

You need to upload Gedcoms on all the kits you manage.

Check the Passaportes leaving the Azores in 1902. Anthero shouldn't be too
hard to find.

Pick the Passaportes for 1902 for the port of Ponta Delgada. It's split
between 2 files.
Good luck, Cheri

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