Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Meaning of "canada"

2015-11-18 Thread Mary Bordi
>From the Spanish settlers of San Mateo County California we get the name
of Cañada Road which gives its name to a community college--Cañada College.

As it's locally spelled with the Ñ and pronounced that way, newcomers
sometimes mistakenly pronounce it as we pronounce the name of the country
Canada. :)

For what it's worth...

Mary

On Wednesday, November 18, 2015, Steve  wrote:

> Thanks for that explanation, Tomas.
>
> In one case, the surname Canada apparently derives from canyon (similar to
> ravine).
>
> A line with the Bartolomeu surname changed it to Canada during their
> immigration process to California. As one descendent wrote, “because the
> father owned land in a canyon (cañada) in the Azores,” referring to Santa
> Cruz das Flores.
>
> Although cañada is defined as glade/dell or gully/ravine in Spanish, this
> topographical feature somehow also became a geographic place name in
> Portugal and France. This is discussed in:
>
> Marshall, A Elliot. 1888. Origin of the Name ‘Canada.’ Pp. 164-173 in A.
> Marshall Elliot, ed. Modern Language Notes, Vol. III. Baltimore, MD.
>
> Marshall describes the use of canada for path in Portuguese, but discusses
> the second sense of the Latin word root, relating it to Spanish and
> Portuguese.
>
> Regarding topographical features and place names, Marshall concludes:
>
> “Again: the extensive use in Spain, as opposed to Portugal, of the word
> *canada* or *cañada* as a geographical designation, would argue in favor
> of the probable origin of the name on Spanish soil…”
>
> and he notes, in addition:
>
> “But not alone in Spain do we find the word *Canada* widely used for
> marking topographical sites. On the map of France, we note seven places of
> this name scattered throughout as many different Départements, in all of
> which the same general characteristics exist that we have seen in the
> Spanish names…”
>
> Steve
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Meaning of "canada"

2015-11-16 Thread Rosemarie Capodicci
Thank you so much for the info Tomas. That is very interesting about the
use of the term Canada.

Rosemarie
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Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 10:30 PM, Tomas Leal  wrote:

> We have a canada running through our property on Pico. It's a footpath
> running from the rua up the side of the hill to allow access to the various
> terraces which are land-locked. Canadas started as footpaths, whether
> providing access to terraces above, cutting through a woods, or leading to
> someone’s house from one of the “caminhos,” which were more used roads
> within and between towns. To identify where someone lived or something was,
> villagers gave names to many of the canadas. Over time, some of the canadas
> got widened so a cart could get through and some got gravel put on them.
> Outside of the established cities such as Ponta Delgada, Angra, Horta, and
> a few others, most Azorean roads had only popular names the locals used
> until the second half of the 20th century, when "official" names came into
> being. Some canadas became newly-named roads that kept the word "canada"
> in their names, but often these new roads were given names honoring various
> individuals. Thus, a canada name that appears on an old birth, marriage, or
> death registration may no longer exist by that name—if it exists at all
> today. Sometimes, oldtimers remember where a certain canada used to be or
> what name a current road popularly had in the past.  As a result, a canada
> can be a nameless footpath but today it could also be a back alley or a
> minor road in a town.
>
>
> Tomás Leal
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Meaning of "canada"

2015-11-16 Thread George Medeiros
Thanks for the information.George

Sent from my iPad

On Nov 15, 2015, at 10:30 PM, Tomas Leal  wrote:

> We have a canada running through our property on Pico. It's a footpath 
> running from the rua up the side of the hill to allow access to the various 
> terraces which are land-locked. Canadas started as footpaths, whether 
> providing access to terraces above, cutting through a woods, or leading to 
> someone’s house from one of the “caminhos,” which were more used roads within 
> and between towns. To identify where someone lived or something was, 
> villagers gave names to many of the canadas. Over time, some of the canadas 
> got widened so a cart could get through and some got gravel put on them. 
> Outside of the established cities such as Ponta Delgada, Angra, Horta, and a 
> few others, most Azorean roads had only popular names the locals used until 
> the second half of the 20th century, when "official" names came into being. 
> Some canadas became newly-named roads that kept the word "canada" in their 
> names, but often these new roads were given names honoring various 
> individuals. Thus, a canada name that appears on an old birth, marriage, or 
> death registration may no longer exist by that name—if it exists at all 
> today. Sometimes, oldtimers remember where a certain canada used to be or 
> what name a current road popularly had in the past.  As a result, a canada 
> can be a nameless footpath but today it could also be a back alley or a minor 
> road in a town.
> 
>  
> 
> Tomás Leal
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Meaning of "canada"

2015-11-16 Thread CaraBela via Azores Genealogy
Very interesting & informative! Thank you!
Sherry
 
 
In a message dated 11/15/2015 10:30:48 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
tomasl...@comcast.net writes:

 
 
We  have a canada running through our property on Pico. It's a footpath 
running  from the rua up the side of the hill to allow access to the various 
terraces  which are land-locked. Canadas started as footpaths, whether 
providing access  to terraces above, cutting through a woods, or leading to 
someone’
s house from  one of the “caminhos,” which were more used roads within and 
between towns. To  identify where someone lived or something was, villagers 
gave names to many of  the canadas. Over time, some of the canadas got 
widened so a cart could get  through and some got gravel put on them. Outside 
of 
the established cities  such as Ponta Delgada, Angra, Horta, and a few 
others, most Azorean roads had  only popular names the locals used until the 
second half of the 20th century,  when "official" names came into being. Some 
canadas became newly-named roads  that kept the word "canada" in their names, 
but often these new  roads were given names honoring various individuals. 
Thus, a canada name that  appears on an old birth, marriage, or death 
registration may no longer exist  by that name—if it exists at all today. 
Sometimes, oldtimers remember where a  certain canada used to be or what name a 
current road popularly had in the  past.  As a result, a canada can be a 
nameless 
footpath but today it  could also be a back alley or a minor road in a 
town.  

Tomás Leal

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