Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] RR book
San Leandro has one or two of the volumes, but they do not loan them out. All of these places have been "burned" by people not returning the books. It's been a while since I have been to San Leandro, but it's a very nice place to visit, and the ladies were helpful, too. The library is kind of a mishmash of Portuguese stuff, most not dedicated to genealogy. There are books you can take out. Fiction, cookbooks, travel books etc. On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 5:50 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > OK, so the teacher in me says you want the word "circulate" not "loan." > The FHL in SLC does not circulate their books either. Only film and fiche, > as they can make copies of those. As books get digitized, you will be able > to view them at a FHC. They have to follow international copyright laws. I > think RR was published maybe 15 years ago. I don't know international > copyright laws, but my guess would be another 50 or 60 years. :( > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 3:20 PM, Elizabeth Migliori > wrote: > >> I didn't mean loan for me to take out, home. I would never loan something >> so precious as that for someone to take out of bldg. I meant Salt Lake to >> loan to one of their stakes local for me. >> I will look into San Leandro. >> thx >> >> On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 2:05 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci >> wrote: >> >>> The FHL does NOT loan books. You would have to find a library that has >>> them and would be willing to loan. I bet the Freitas Library in San Leandro >>> has copies but don't know that they will loan them out. My friend, Leonor >>> said that they are loaning books now but don't know if they have RR. >>> >>> Rosemarie >>> rcap...@gmail.com >>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, >>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Liz Migliori wrote: >>> Oh wow! Would the FHL have them for loan Sent from my iPhone On Jan 6, 2017, at 12:12 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: It was a 5 or 6 volume set of books, now out of print. I think it was $400, $500 or so U.S. Dollars for the set. All in Portuguese, of course! Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 11:57 AM, Liz Migliori wrote: > Hi Cheri > There was so much to this thread I got lost but what caught my eye was > a book on the families of Sao Miguel and Santa Maria. > Where and or how can I get this > > Liz > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 6, 2017, at 9:42 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: > > RR=Rodrigo Rodrigues, the author of "Genealogies of Sao Miguel and > Santa Maria islands." I would not go looking for your family on those > islands. Or any other island until you trace them back in time and it > tells > you that they came from another island. No Goose Chases for you! > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira > Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 9:31 AM, 'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy < > azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: > >> Awesome! Thank you! What is the RR book? >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >> send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azo
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] RR book
Got it Thanks. On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 5:50 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > OK, so the teacher in me says you want the word "circulate" not "loan." > The FHL in SLC does not circulate their books either. Only film and fiche, > as they can make copies of those. As books get digitized, you will be able > to view them at a FHC. They have to follow international copyright laws. I > think RR was published maybe 15 years ago. I don't know international > copyright laws, but my guess would be another 50 or 60 years. :( > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 3:20 PM, Elizabeth Migliori > wrote: > >> I didn't mean loan for me to take out, home. I would never loan something >> so precious as that for someone to take out of bldg. I meant Salt Lake to >> loan to one of their stakes local for me. >> I will look into San Leandro. >> thx >> >> On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 2:05 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci >> wrote: >> >>> The FHL does NOT loan books. You would have to find a library that has >>> them and would be willing to loan. I bet the Freitas Library in San Leandro >>> has copies but don't know that they will loan them out. My friend, Leonor >>> said that they are loaning books now but don't know if they have RR. >>> >>> Rosemarie >>> rcap...@gmail.com >>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, >>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Liz Migliori wrote: >>> Oh wow! Would the FHL have them for loan Sent from my iPhone On Jan 6, 2017, at 12:12 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: It was a 5 or 6 volume set of books, now out of print. I think it was $400, $500 or so U.S. Dollars for the set. All in Portuguese, of course! Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 11:57 AM, Liz Migliori wrote: > Hi Cheri > There was so much to this thread I got lost but what caught my eye was > a book on the families of Sao Miguel and Santa Maria. > Where and or how can I get this > > Liz > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 6, 2017, at 9:42 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: > > RR=Rodrigo Rodrigues, the author of "Genealogies of Sao Miguel and > Santa Maria islands." I would not go looking for your family on those > islands. Or any other island until you trace them back in time and it > tells > you that they came from another island. No Goose Chases for you! > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira > Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 9:31 AM, 'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy < > azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: > >> Awesome! Thank you! What is the RR book? >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >> send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] RR book
OK, so the teacher in me says you want the word "circulate" not "loan." The FHL in SLC does not circulate their books either. Only film and fiche, as they can make copies of those. As books get digitized, you will be able to view them at a FHC. They have to follow international copyright laws. I think RR was published maybe 15 years ago. I don't know international copyright laws, but my guess would be another 50 or 60 years. :( Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 3:20 PM, Elizabeth Migliori wrote: > I didn't mean loan for me to take out, home. I would never loan something > so precious as that for someone to take out of bldg. I meant Salt Lake to > loan to one of their stakes local for me. > I will look into San Leandro. > thx > > On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 2:05 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci > wrote: > >> The FHL does NOT loan books. You would have to find a library that has >> them and would be willing to loan. I bet the Freitas Library in San Leandro >> has copies but don't know that they will loan them out. My friend, Leonor >> said that they are loaning books now but don't know if they have RR. >> >> Rosemarie >> rcap...@gmail.com >> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, >> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily >> >> On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Liz Migliori wrote: >> >>> Oh wow! >>> Would the FHL have them for loan >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Jan 6, 2017, at 12:12 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: >>> >>> It was a 5 or 6 volume set of books, now out of print. I think it was >>> $400, $500 or so U.S. Dollars for the set. All in Portuguese, of course! >>> >>> Cheri Mello >>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira >>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 11:57 AM, Liz Migliori >>> wrote: >>> Hi Cheri There was so much to this thread I got lost but what caught my eye was a book on the families of Sao Miguel and Santa Maria. Where and or how can I get this Liz Sent from my iPhone On Jan 6, 2017, at 9:42 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: RR=Rodrigo Rodrigues, the author of "Genealogies of Sao Miguel and Santa Maria islands." I would not go looking for your family on those islands. Or any other island until you trace them back in time and it tells you that they came from another island. No Goose Chases for you! Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 9:31 AM, 'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy < azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Awesome! Thank you! What is the RR book? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubs
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] RR book
I didn't mean loan for me to take out, home. I would never loan something so precious as that for someone to take out of bldg. I meant Salt Lake to loan to one of their stakes local for me. I will look into San Leandro. thx On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 2:05 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci wrote: > The FHL does NOT loan books. You would have to find a library that has > them and would be willing to loan. I bet the Freitas Library in San Leandro > has copies but don't know that they will loan them out. My friend, Leonor > said that they are loaning books now but don't know if they have RR. > > Rosemarie > rcap...@gmail.com > Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, > Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily > > On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Liz Migliori wrote: > >> Oh wow! >> Would the FHL have them for loan >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jan 6, 2017, at 12:12 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: >> >> It was a 5 or 6 volume set of books, now out of print. I think it was >> $400, $500 or so U.S. Dollars for the set. All in Portuguese, of course! >> >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >> >> On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 11:57 AM, Liz Migliori wrote: >> >>> Hi Cheri >>> There was so much to this thread I got lost but what caught my eye was a >>> book on the families of Sao Miguel and Santa Maria. >>> Where and or how can I get this >>> >>> Liz >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Jan 6, 2017, at 9:42 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: >>> >>> RR=Rodrigo Rodrigues, the author of "Genealogies of Sao Miguel and Santa >>> Maria islands." I would not go looking for your family on those islands. Or >>> any other island until you trace them back in time and it tells you that >>> they came from another island. No Goose Chases for you! >>> >>> Cheri Mello >>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira >>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 9:31 AM, 'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy < >>> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>> Awesome! Thank you! What is the RR book? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] RR book
Most books in the FHL do not circulate. The FHL in SLC has only Vol. 1 in hard copy and it's the only one in the whole FHL system. They don't have all 5 or 6. WorldCat.org shows this: [image: Inline image 1] [image: Inline image 2] That's due to the way the libraries catalog the title. It's only volume 1 though. Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Liz Migliori wrote: > Oh wow! > Would the FHL have them for loan > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 6, 2017, at 12:12 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > > It was a 5 or 6 volume set of books, now out of print. I think it was > $400, $500 or so U.S. Dollars for the set. All in Portuguese, of course! > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 11:57 AM, Liz Migliori wrote: > >> Hi Cheri >> There was so much to this thread I got lost but what caught my eye was a >> book on the families of Sao Miguel and Santa Maria. >> Where and or how can I get this >> >> Liz >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jan 6, 2017, at 9:42 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: >> >> RR=Rodrigo Rodrigues, the author of "Genealogies of Sao Miguel and Santa >> Maria islands." I would not go looking for your family on those islands. Or >> any other island until you trace them back in time and it tells you that >> they came from another island. No Goose Chases for you! >> >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >> >> On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 9:31 AM, 'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy < >> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: >> >>> Awesome! Thank you! What is the RR book? >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] RR book
The FHL does NOT loan books. You would have to find a library that has them and would be willing to loan. I bet the Freitas Library in San Leandro has copies but don't know that they will loan them out. My friend, Leonor said that they are loaning books now but don't know if they have RR. Rosemarie rcap...@gmail.com Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Liz Migliori wrote: > Oh wow! > Would the FHL have them for loan > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 6, 2017, at 12:12 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > > It was a 5 or 6 volume set of books, now out of print. I think it was > $400, $500 or so U.S. Dollars for the set. All in Portuguese, of course! > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 11:57 AM, Liz Migliori wrote: > >> Hi Cheri >> There was so much to this thread I got lost but what caught my eye was a >> book on the families of Sao Miguel and Santa Maria. >> Where and or how can I get this >> >> Liz >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jan 6, 2017, at 9:42 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: >> >> RR=Rodrigo Rodrigues, the author of "Genealogies of Sao Miguel and Santa >> Maria islands." I would not go looking for your family on those islands. Or >> any other island until you trace them back in time and it tells you that >> they came from another island. No Goose Chases for you! >> >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >> >> On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 9:31 AM, 'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy < >> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: >> >>> Awesome! Thank you! What is the RR book? >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] RR book
Oh wow! Would the FHL have them for loan Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 6, 2017, at 12:12 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > > It was a 5 or 6 volume set of books, now out of print. I think it was $400, > $500 or so U.S. Dollars for the set. All in Portuguese, of course! > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > >> On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 11:57 AM, Liz Migliori wrote: >> Hi Cheri >> There was so much to this thread I got lost but what caught my eye was a >> book on the families of Sao Miguel and Santa Maria. >> Where and or how can I get this >> >> Liz >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jan 6, 2017, at 9:42 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: >>> >>> RR=Rodrigo Rodrigues, the author of "Genealogies of Sao Miguel and Santa >>> Maria islands." I would not go looking for your family on those islands. Or >>> any other island until you trace them back in time and it tells you that >>> they came from another island. No Goose Chases for you! >>> >>> Cheri Mello >>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >>> On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 9:31 AM, 'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy wrote: Awesome! Thank you! What is the RR book? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] RR book
It was a 5 or 6 volume set of books, now out of print. I think it was $400, $500 or so U.S. Dollars for the set. All in Portuguese, of course! Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 11:57 AM, Liz Migliori wrote: > Hi Cheri > There was so much to this thread I got lost but what caught my eye was a > book on the families of Sao Miguel and Santa Maria. > Where and or how can I get this > > Liz > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 6, 2017, at 9:42 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: > > RR=Rodrigo Rodrigues, the author of "Genealogies of Sao Miguel and Santa > Maria islands." I would not go looking for your family on those islands. Or > any other island until you trace them back in time and it tells you that > they came from another island. No Goose Chases for you! > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 9:31 AM, 'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy < > azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: > >> Awesome! Thank you! What is the RR book? >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] RR book - Errors and Ommissions
Thanks, Shirley. John On Saturday, September 5, 2015 5:06 PM, Shirley Allegre wrote: See below in RED. Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 8:27 AM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] RR book - Errors and Ommissions I think it is an omission. Keep in mind that Rodrigo Rodrigues never considered his work finished.It was always a work in progress. He worked on it for decades and eventually got old and did less and less. It remained in an unedited version for many, many years after his death. So what you have is what he had at the time of his death. Here is what I have in my data base which I have not independently verified, so be warned; however, I very much respect and trust the researcher. Modified Register for Cipriano do Rego First Generation 1. Cipriano do Rego was born on 24 Jul 1723 in Ponta Garca- NS Piedade. He was christened on 27 Jul 1723 in Ponta Garca, Sao Miguel, Azores. He died on 18 Oct 1782 in Ponta Garca- NS Piedade. He was buried in Ribeira Quente, Sao Miguel, Azores. LDS- 1388482, 1723, births, Test- Manuel Garcia, with Maria Medeiros o fPG. Also spelled as Cypriano and Ciprano. He was baptized July 27th. Cipriano married Antonia Barbosa daughter of Francisco Barbosa and Bernarda de Oliveira on 12 Aug 1745 in Ponta Garca- NS Piedade. Antonia was born on 2 Feb 1725 in Vila Franca do Campo- Matriz. She died on 27 Feb 1792 in Ponta Garca- NS Piedade. They had the following children: 2 M i. Francisco Barbosa Rego . I don't have this person. 3 F ii. Anna was born on 7 May 1746. Okay. 4 F iii. Theresa Maria was born on 12 Feb 1751 in Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade. Okay. DOMS: 11 Jan 1769, PG, to Miguel Furtado; 24 Nov 1783, PG, to my 110 Juniparo do Amaral; (He later married my 111 Barbara Soares. 5 F iv. Rosa Maria was born about 25 Oct 1751 in Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade. I didn't have her DOB. Thanks. 6 M v. Jose Barbosa was born about 1753 in Ponta Garca- NS Piedade. He died on 30 Apr 1829 in Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade. OK LDS- 1388482, pg- 137, births, bap-1751? + 7 F vi. Joana de Jesus Barbosa was born on 14 Jun 1756. in Ponta Garca. Joanna is my #215 & 231. In my lines twice. 8 M vii. Antonio Rego Barbosa was born on 5 Mar 1759 in Ponta Garca- NS Piedade. I have him born in Ribeira Quente, baptised in Ponta Garca. He is my 234. He married my 235 Constancia Roza de Jesus on 15 May 1786 in Ponta Garca. 9 F viii. Maria de Jesus Rego or Barbosa was born on 26 Oct 1760 in Ponta Garca- NS de Piedade. I have her bapt. 1 Nov 1760. Maria married Antonio da Costa Carneiro son of Manuel da Costa Carneiro and Maria de Sao Miguel Resendes on 9 Sep 1781 in Ponta Garca- NS Piedade. Antonio was born on 21 Apr 1756 in Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade. Okay + 10 F ix. Francisca de Jesus or Santos Barbosa was born on 16 Jul 1764. I have her as Maria de Jesus dos Santos Barbosa. I hope this helps. John On Tuesday, September 1, 2015 8:49 AM, manita.morgado wrote: Good morning from Toronto, I have a question about a possible omission in RR's book. Here are the specifics: My 4th great grandparents Rosa Maria Barbosa married Francisco Furtado in 1775, Ponta Garca, Sao Miguel. The marriage record clearly states her parents as Ciprianno do Rego and Antonia Barbosa of Vila Franca who married in 1745. Ciprianno and Antonia are in RR's book and can be found in Cap. 240, section 2-6. Only 4 kids are listed and their daughter Rosa Maria Barbosa is not in RR's book. There are two possibilities here: 1. There is an omission in RR's book 2. I have the wrong parents for Rosa Maria Barbosa. I only found her marriage record that has the correct parents names but didn't find her birth record. I definitely need to put more energy to finding it to prove via another document that this is indeed her parents in RR's book. I suppose a third possibility is the another couple with the same names, dates and places but that's hard to believe. This is my question: Is there a list somewhere of verified and confirmed omissions and errors in RR's book? Also, is there anyone else on this list with the same ancestor? If it's confirmed that Rosa Maria Barbosa parents are indeed Ciprianno Rego and Antonia Barbosa then the line leads to Joao Afonso das Grotas Fundas which is an entire separate post in and of itself. Thank you in advance for your help. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click i
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] RR book - Errors and Ommissions
See below in RED. Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 8:27 AM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] RR book - Errors and Ommissions I think it is an omission. Keep in mind that Rodrigo Rodrigues never considered his work finished.It was always a work in progress. He worked on it for decades and eventually got old and did less and less. It remained in an unedited version for many, many years after his death. So what you have is what he had at the time of his death. Here is what I have in my data base which I have not independently verified, so be warned; however, I very much respect and trust the researcher. Modified Register for Cipriano do Rego First Generation 1. Cipriano do Rego was born on 24 Jul 1723 in Ponta Garca- NS Piedade. He was christened on 27 Jul 1723 in Ponta Garca, Sao Miguel, Azores. He died on 18 Oct 1782 in Ponta Garca- NS Piedade. He was buried in Ribeira Quente, Sao Miguel, Azores. LDS- 1388482, 1723, births, Test- Manuel Garcia, with Maria Medeiros o fPG. Also spelled as Cypriano and Ciprano. He was baptized July 27th. Cipriano married Antonia Barbosa daughter of Francisco Barbosa and Bernarda de Oliveira on 12 Aug 1745 in Ponta Garca- NS Piedade. Antonia was born on 2 Feb 1725 in Vila Franca do Campo- Matriz. She died on 27 Feb 1792 in Ponta Garca- NS Piedade. They had the following children: 2 Mi. Francisco Barbosa Rego . I don't have this person. 3 F ii. Anna was born on 7 May 1746. Okay. 4 Fiii. Theresa Maria was born on 12 Feb 1751 in Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade. Okay. DOMS: 11 Jan 1769, PG, to Miguel Furtado; 24 Nov 1783, PG, to my 110 Juniparo do Amaral; (He later married my 111 Barbara Soares. 5 F iv. Rosa Maria was born about 25 Oct 1751 in Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade. I didn't have her DOB. Thanks. 6 M v. Jose Barbosa was born about 1753 in Ponta Garca- NS Piedade. He died on 30 Apr 1829 in Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade. OK LDS- 1388482, pg- 137, births, bap-1751? + 7 F vi. Joana de Jesus Barbosa was born on 14 Jun 1756. in Ponta Garca. Joanna is my #215 & 231. In my lines twice. 8 M vii. Antonio Rego Barbosa was born on 5 Mar 1759 in Ponta Garca- NS Piedade. I have him born in Ribeira Quente, baptised in Ponta Garca. He is my 234. He married my 235 Constancia Roza de Jesus on 15 May 1786 in Ponta Garca. 9 F viii. Maria de Jesus Rego or Barbosa was born on 26 Oct 1760 in Ponta Garca- NS de Piedade. I have her bapt. 1 Nov 1760. Maria married Antonio da Costa Carneiro son of Manuel da Costa Carneiro and Maria de Sao Miguel Resendes on 9 Sep 1781 in Ponta Garca- NS Piedade. Antonio was born on 21 Apr 1756 in Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade. Okay +10 F ix. Francisca de Jesus or Santos Barbosa was born on 16 Jul 1764. I have her as Maria de Jesus dos Santos Barbosa. I hope this helps. John On Tuesday, September 1, 2015 8:49 AM, manita.morgado wrote: Good morning from Toronto, I have a question about a possible omission in RR's book. Here are the specifics: My 4th great grandparents Rosa Maria Barbosa married Francisco Furtado in 1775, Ponta Garca, Sao Miguel. The marriage record clearly states her parents as Ciprianno do Rego and Antonia Barbosa of Vila Franca who married in 1745. Ciprianno and Antonia are in RR's book and can be found in Cap. 240, section 2-6. Only 4 kids are listed and their daughter Rosa Maria Barbosa is not in RR's book. There are two possibilities here: 1. There is an omission in RR's book 2. I have the wrong parents for Rosa Maria Barbosa. I only found her marriage record that has the correct parents names but didn't find her birth record. I definitely need to put more energy to finding it to prove via another document that this is indeed her parents in RR's book. I suppose a third possibility is the another couple with the same names, dates and places but that's hard to believe. This is my question: Is there a list somewhere of verified and confirmed omissions and errors in RR's book? Also, is there anyone else on this list with the same ancestor? If it's confirmed that Rosa Maria Barbosa parents are indeed Ciprianno Rego and Antonia Barbosa then the line leads to Joao Afonso das Grotas Fundas which is an entire separate post in and of itself. Thank you in advance for your help. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right tha
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] RR book - Errors and Ommissions
Roza and Thereza can look alike with that fancy writing. Or cryptic calligraphy as one researcher calls it. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 8:16 PM, Manita M wrote: > You are right! Thank you. > On Sep 1, 2015 11:14 PM, "JR" wrote: > >> That's Thereza. Will send you updated version to your email. >> >> JR >> >> On Tuesday, September 1, 2015 at 10:59:33 PM UTC-4, manita.morgado wrote: >>> >>> We got 2 records for Roza with the same parents. >>> >>> Check this out: >>> >>> >>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1739-1752/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1739-1752_item1/P142.html >>> >>> Will my Rosa Maria please make herself known? >>> >>> I'm confused. I find it hard to believe that there could be another >>> set of parents with the same name in PG. >>> >>> Could the earlier or later record be a child that may have passed >>> ...probably the first? >>> >>> I don't have an orbit record for her either, so not sure if that could >>> help determine if one past away and the next girl was named the same name? >>> >>> Just a guess. >>> >>> Would love your thoughts. >>> >>> Thanks for all your help with this. >>> On Sep 1, 2015 10:42 PM, "JR" wrote: >>> This is Rosa's record: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1752-1760/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1752-1760_item1/P26.html PG bap- Roza- born- Nov 8- 1753, bap- Nov 15(?)- 1753, filha de Cyprianno do Rego nat PG and Antonia Barboza nat VFSM; Pad- Jozeph Pacheco e Roza Pacheca filhos familias de Sebastiam Furtado e de Barbara Pacheca cazados desta fraguesia. JR On Tuesday, September 1, 2015 at 1:19:30 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Looks like most of that list was copied from me and Shirley Allegre. > We are the ones that researched that line as we come from Cipriano do Rego > and Antonia Barboza. We found 8 children for them. > > We never found a son named Francisco for Cipriano & Antonia. > > We never found the baptism of Rosa Maria. The October 1751 date is > probably too close to the Feb. 1751 date of the sibling Theresa. > > We found the SECOND baptism of Jose on 8 Jan 1780 (he married 20 Jan > 1780). We did the research years ago and I'd have to pull the image up, > but > I think it says it was his 2nd baptism. And we were not sure that he died > 30 April 1829 in PG. We have that as a possible date that needs further > research (I think we found another Jose Barboza running around - it's been > many years since we've worked this line). > > We have the marriage dates and spouses of all except for Anna. > > We have a few of their deaths. > > = > As for RR.Hugo Moreira wanted to go back through and double check > all of RR's work. I believe he did that for volume 1. It didn't happen for > the other volumes. Hugo died and their was some argument about publishing > the remaining books of RR which finally happened. No fact checking was > done. So it's up to us to check it ourselves. > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das > Tainhas, Achada > > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> -- >> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >> membership." >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] RR book - Errors and Ommissions
You are right! Thank you. On Sep 1, 2015 11:14 PM, "JR" wrote: > That's Thereza. Will send you updated version to your email. > > JR > > On Tuesday, September 1, 2015 at 10:59:33 PM UTC-4, manita.morgado wrote: >> >> We got 2 records for Roza with the same parents. >> >> Check this out: >> >> >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1739-1752/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1739-1752_item1/P142.html >> >> Will my Rosa Maria please make herself known? >> >> I'm confused. I find it hard to believe that there could be another set >> of parents with the same name in PG. >> >> Could the earlier or later record be a child that may have passed >> ...probably the first? >> >> I don't have an orbit record for her either, so not sure if that could >> help determine if one past away and the next girl was named the same name? >> >> Just a guess. >> >> Would love your thoughts. >> >> Thanks for all your help with this. >> On Sep 1, 2015 10:42 PM, "JR" wrote: >> >>> This is Rosa's record: >>> >>> >>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1752-1760/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1752-1760_item1/P26.html >>> >>> PG bap- Roza- born- Nov 8- 1753, bap- Nov 15(?)- 1753, filha de >>> Cyprianno do Rego nat PG and Antonia Barboza nat VFSM; Pad- Jozeph Pacheco >>> e Roza Pacheca filhos familias de Sebastiam Furtado e de Barbara Pacheca >>> cazados desta fraguesia. >>> >>> JR >>> >>> On Tuesday, September 1, 2015 at 1:19:30 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote: Looks like most of that list was copied from me and Shirley Allegre. We are the ones that researched that line as we come from Cipriano do Rego and Antonia Barboza. We found 8 children for them. We never found a son named Francisco for Cipriano & Antonia. We never found the baptism of Rosa Maria. The October 1751 date is probably too close to the Feb. 1751 date of the sibling Theresa. We found the SECOND baptism of Jose on 8 Jan 1780 (he married 20 Jan 1780). We did the research years ago and I'd have to pull the image up, but I think it says it was his 2nd baptism. And we were not sure that he died 30 April 1829 in PG. We have that as a possible date that needs further research (I think we found another Jose Barboza running around - it's been many years since we've worked this line). We have the marriage dates and spouses of all except for Anna. We have a few of their deaths. = As for RR.Hugo Moreira wanted to go back through and double check all of RR's work. I believe he did that for volume 1. It didn't happen for the other volumes. Hugo died and their was some argument about publishing the remaining books of RR which finally happened. No fact checking was done. So it's up to us to check it ourselves. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- >>> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >>> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >>> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >>> membership." >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> >> -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] RR book - Errors and Ommissions
That's Thereza. Will send you updated version to your email. JR On Tuesday, September 1, 2015 at 10:59:33 PM UTC-4, manita.morgado wrote: > > We got 2 records for Roza with the same parents. > > Check this out: > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1739-1752/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1739-1752_item1/P142.html > > Will my Rosa Maria please make herself known? > > I'm confused. I find it hard to believe that there could be another set > of parents with the same name in PG. > > Could the earlier or later record be a child that may have passed > ...probably the first? > > I don't have an orbit record for her either, so not sure if that could > help determine if one past away and the next girl was named the same name? > > Just a guess. > > Would love your thoughts. > > Thanks for all your help with this. > On Sep 1, 2015 10:42 PM, "JR" > wrote: > >> This is Rosa's record: >> >> >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1752-1760/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1752-1760_item1/P26.html >> >> PG bap- Roza- born- Nov 8- 1753, bap- Nov 15(?)- 1753, filha de Cyprianno >> do Rego nat PG and Antonia Barboza nat VFSM; Pad- Jozeph Pacheco e Roza >> Pacheca filhos familias de Sebastiam Furtado e de Barbara Pacheca cazados >> desta fraguesia. >> >> JR >> >> On Tuesday, September 1, 2015 at 1:19:30 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote: >>> >>> Looks like most of that list was copied from me and Shirley Allegre. We >>> are the ones that researched that line as we come from Cipriano do Rego and >>> Antonia Barboza. We found 8 children for them. >>> >>> We never found a son named Francisco for Cipriano & Antonia. >>> >>> We never found the baptism of Rosa Maria. The October 1751 date is >>> probably too close to the Feb. 1751 date of the sibling Theresa. >>> >>> We found the SECOND baptism of Jose on 8 Jan 1780 (he married 20 Jan >>> 1780). We did the research years ago and I'd have to pull the image up, but >>> I think it says it was his 2nd baptism. And we were not sure that he died >>> 30 April 1829 in PG. We have that as a possible date that needs further >>> research (I think we found another Jose Barboza running around - it's been >>> many years since we've worked this line). >>> >>> We have the marriage dates and spouses of all except for Anna. >>> >>> We have a few of their deaths. >>> >>> = >>> As for RR.Hugo Moreira wanted to go back through and double check >>> all of RR's work. I believe he did that for volume 1. It didn't happen for >>> the other volumes. Hugo died and their was some argument about publishing >>> the remaining books of RR which finally happened. No fact checking was >>> done. So it's up to us to check it ourselves. >>> >>> Cheri Mello >>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das >>> Tainhas, Achada >>> >>> -- >> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >> membership." >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com . >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] RR book - Errors and Ommissions
We got 2 records for Roza with the same parents. Check this out: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1739-1752/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1739-1752_item1/P142.html Will my Rosa Maria please make herself known? I'm confused. I find it hard to believe that there could be another set of parents with the same name in PG. Could the earlier or later record be a child that may have passed ...probably the first? I don't have an orbit record for her either, so not sure if that could help determine if one past away and the next girl was named the same name? Just a guess. Would love your thoughts. Thanks for all your help with this. On Sep 1, 2015 10:42 PM, "JR" wrote: > This is Rosa's record: > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1752-1760/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1752-1760_item1/P26.html > > PG bap- Roza- born- Nov 8- 1753, bap- Nov 15(?)- 1753, filha de Cyprianno > do Rego nat PG and Antonia Barboza nat VFSM; Pad- Jozeph Pacheco e Roza > Pacheca filhos familias de Sebastiam Furtado e de Barbara Pacheca cazados > desta fraguesia. > > JR > > On Tuesday, September 1, 2015 at 1:19:30 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote: >> >> Looks like most of that list was copied from me and Shirley Allegre. We >> are the ones that researched that line as we come from Cipriano do Rego and >> Antonia Barboza. We found 8 children for them. >> >> We never found a son named Francisco for Cipriano & Antonia. >> >> We never found the baptism of Rosa Maria. The October 1751 date is >> probably too close to the Feb. 1751 date of the sibling Theresa. >> >> We found the SECOND baptism of Jose on 8 Jan 1780 (he married 20 Jan >> 1780). We did the research years ago and I'd have to pull the image up, but >> I think it says it was his 2nd baptism. And we were not sure that he died >> 30 April 1829 in PG. We have that as a possible date that needs further >> research (I think we found another Jose Barboza running around - it's been >> many years since we've worked this line). >> >> We have the marriage dates and spouses of all except for Anna. >> >> We have a few of their deaths. >> >> = >> As for RR.Hugo Moreira wanted to go back through and double check all >> of RR's work. I believe he did that for volume 1. It didn't happen for the >> other volumes. Hugo died and their was some argument about publishing the >> remaining books of RR which finally happened. No fact checking was done. So >> it's up to us to check it ourselves. >> >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das >> Tainhas, Achada >> >> -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] RR book - Errors and Ommissions
This is Rosa's record: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1752-1760/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1752-1760_item1/P26.html PG bap- Roza- born- Nov 8- 1753, bap- Nov 15(?)- 1753, filha de Cyprianno do Rego nat PG and Antonia Barboza nat VFSM; Pad- Jozeph Pacheco e Roza Pacheca filhos familias de Sebastiam Furtado e de Barbara Pacheca cazados desta fraguesia. JR On Tuesday, September 1, 2015 at 1:19:30 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Looks like most of that list was copied from me and Shirley Allegre. We > are the ones that researched that line as we come from Cipriano do Rego and > Antonia Barboza. We found 8 children for them. > > We never found a son named Francisco for Cipriano & Antonia. > > We never found the baptism of Rosa Maria. The October 1751 date is > probably too close to the Feb. 1751 date of the sibling Theresa. > > We found the SECOND baptism of Jose on 8 Jan 1780 (he married 20 Jan > 1780). We did the research years ago and I'd have to pull the image up, but > I think it says it was his 2nd baptism. And we were not sure that he died > 30 April 1829 in PG. We have that as a possible date that needs further > research (I think we found another Jose Barboza running around - it's been > many years since we've worked this line). > > We have the marriage dates and spouses of all except for Anna. > > We have a few of their deaths. > > = > As for RR.Hugo Moreira wanted to go back through and double check all > of RR's work. I believe he did that for volume 1. It didn't happen for the > other volumes. Hugo died and their was some argument about publishing the > remaining books of RR which finally happened. No fact checking was done. So > it's up to us to check it ourselves. > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das > Tainhas, Achada > > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] RR book - Errors and Ommissions
Looks like most of that list was copied from me and Shirley Allegre. We are the ones that researched that line as we come from Cipriano do Rego and Antonia Barboza. We found 8 children for them. We never found a son named Francisco for Cipriano & Antonia. We never found the baptism of Rosa Maria. The October 1751 date is probably too close to the Feb. 1751 date of the sibling Theresa. We found the SECOND baptism of Jose on 8 Jan 1780 (he married 20 Jan 1780). We did the research years ago and I'd have to pull the image up, but I think it says it was his 2nd baptism. And we were not sure that he died 30 April 1829 in PG. We have that as a possible date that needs further research (I think we found another Jose Barboza running around - it's been many years since we've worked this line). We have the marriage dates and spouses of all except for Anna. We have a few of their deaths. = As for RR.Hugo Moreira wanted to go back through and double check all of RR's work. I believe he did that for volume 1. It didn't happen for the other volumes. Hugo died and their was some argument about publishing the remaining books of RR which finally happened. No fact checking was done. So it's up to us to check it ourselves. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] RR book - Errors and Ommissions
I think it is an omission. Keep in mind that Rodrigo Rodrigues never considered his work finished.It was always a work in progress. He worked on it for decades and eventually got old and did less and less. It remained in an unedited version for many, many years after his death. So what you have is what he had at the time of his death. Here is what I have in my data base which I have not independently verified, so be warned; however, I very much respect and trust the researcher. Modified Register for Cipriano doRego First Generation 1. Ciprianodo Rego was born on 24 Jul 1723 inPonta Garca- NS Piedade. He was christened on 27 Jul 1723 in Ponta Garca, SaoMiguel, Azores. He died on 18 Oct 1782 in Ponta Garca- NS Piedade. He wasburied in Ribeira Quente, Sao Miguel, Azores. LDS- 1388482, 1723, births, Test-Manuel Garcia, with Maria Medeiros o fPG. Also spelled as Cypriano and Ciprano.He was baptized July 27th.Cipriano married Antonia Barbosa daughter of Francisco Barbosa and Bernarda de Oliveiraon 12 Aug 1745 in Ponta Garca- NS Piedade. Antonia was born on 2 Feb 1725 inVila Franca do Campo- Matriz. She died on 27 Feb 1792 in Ponta Garca- NSPiedade. They had the following children: 2 M i. Francisco Barbosa Rego . 3 F ii. Anna was born on 7 May 1746. 4 F iii. Theresa Maria was born on 12 Feb 1751 in Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade. 5 F iv. Rosa Maria was born about 25 Oct 1751 inPonta Garca- NS da Piedade. 6 M v. Jose Barbosa was born about 1753 in Ponta Garca- NSPiedade. He died on 30 Apr 1829 in Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade. LDS- 1388482, pg- 137, births,bap-1751? + 7 F vi. Joana de Jesus Barbosa was born on 14 Jun1756. 8 M vii. Antonio Rego Barbosa was born on 5 Mar 1759 in Ponta Garca- NSPiedade. 9 F viii. Maria de Jesus Rego or Barbosa was born on 26 Oct 1760 in Ponta Garca- NS dePiedade. Maria married Antonioda Costa Carneiro son of Manuel daCosta Carneiro and Maria de Sao Miguel Resendes on 9 Sep 1781 in Ponta Garca-NS Piedade. Antonio was born on 21 Apr 1756 in Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade. + 10 F ix. Francisca de Jesus or Santos Barbosa was born on 16 Jul 1764. I hope this helps. John On Tuesday, September 1, 2015 8:49 AM, manita.morgado wrote: Good morning from Toronto, I have a question about a possible omission in RR's book. Here are the specifics: My 4th great grandparents Rosa Maria Barbosa married Francisco Furtado in 1775, Ponta Garca, Sao Miguel. The marriage record clearly states her parents as Ciprianno do Rego and Antonia Barbosa of Vila Franca who married in 1745. Ciprianno and Antonia are in RR's book and can be found in Cap. 240, section 2-6. Only 4 kids are listed and their daughter Rosa Maria Barbosa is not in RR's book. There are two possibilities here: 1. There is an omission in RR's book 2. I have the wrong parents for Rosa Maria Barbosa. I only found her marriage record that has the correct parents names but didn't find her birth record. I definitely need to put more energy to finding it to prove via another document that this is indeed her parents in RR's book. I suppose a third possibility is the another couple with the same names, dates and places but that's hard to believe. This is my question: Is there a list somewhere of verified and confirmed omissions and errors in RR's book? Also, is there anyone else on this list with the same ancestor? If it's confirmed that Rosa Maria Barbosa parents are indeed Ciprianno Rego and Antonia Barbosa then the line leads to Joao Afonso das Grotas Fundas which is an entire separate post in and of itself. Thank you in advance for your help. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores
