[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Awaiting results for Batch 575
Hi Marylin, Yes, I had an FF kit on batch 575 that they posted the matches about a week ago. Your kit should be coming up very soon, unless they needed to send you a new sample kit. João Ventura http://tombo.pt/en On Monday, 21 July 2014 00:13:06 UTC+2, Marilyn Thompson wrote: I guess I am just impatient it seems like it said the results would be done in 1 to 2 weeks several weeks ago. I must have been really under 2 weeks ago. Does anyone else have results for familyfinder in batch 575? Marilyn -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help, mom's name
Hi Cheri, Most likely, they did baptize him, but the priest lost the record (or something), and when they had to find it again, it was nowhere to be found. It's easy to solve that by re-baptizing him. João Ventura http://tombp.pt/en On Monday, 21 July 2014 06:57:18 UTC+2, Cheri Mello wrote: Dan, Yes, they were. It appears that they discovered he wasn't baptized when he went to get married. All of his siblings were baptized except him. Don't know if the family all got sick, everyone was busy harvesting or what. No exact date was given, only the year. So he was baptized as an adult. Kinda weird for the 1820s, if memory serves me correctly. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Awaiting results for Batch 575
Thank you everyone for your responses. I just checked again and neither of the 2 familyfinders tests show results. Thanks Cheri for checking on them for me. Marilyn On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 12:40 AM, João Ventura j...@venturas.org wrote: Hi Marylin, Yes, I had an FF kit on batch 575 that they posted the matches about a week ago. Your kit should be coming up very soon, unless they needed to send you a new sample kit. João Ventura http://tombo.pt/en On Monday, 21 July 2014 00:13:06 UTC+2, Marilyn Thompson wrote: I guess I am just impatient it seems like it said the results would be done in 1 to 2 weeks several weeks ago. I must have been really under 2 weeks ago. Does anyone else have results for familyfinder in batch 575? Marilyn -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Awaiting results for Batch 575
I'm on hold with them now. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Awaiting results for Batch 575
I actually have 2 tests. William Western Thompson and James A Miller incase you need to know names. On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 7:43 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: I'm on hold with them now. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Awaiting results for Batch 575
I can txt you kit numbers if you need them On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 7:49 AM, Marilyn Thompson mari...@jmtmlt.com wrote: I actually have 2 tests. William Western Thompson and James A Miller incase you need to know names. On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 7:43 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: I'm on hold with them now. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Marriage records, Reading of the banns
Suzanne, The banns are read on the parish where the bride or the groom is from. The priest usually writes who is from where. Most of the time the marriages took place at the brides village, but there are times the marriage happens on the grooms village. I have seen that before on some records and on my family. I talk about marriage on my blog and I even have a link to a Youtube documentary from BBC on that. I also do transcripts and translations for a fee, you can check my tab Paleography on my blog or click on the link below. http://myportuguesegen.blogspot.com/p/books-and-documents-are-important.html If you want to learn more you can also send me a private email and visit my blog for more information on all above. Isabella Baltar myportuguesegen.blogspot.com On Sunday, July 20, 2014 7:27:12 PM UTC-4, climb...@gmail.com wrote: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-C-1764-1803/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-C-1764-1803_item1/P39.html Right side of the page. My question: When it says the banns were read in a different village from the one where the marriage took place, how do I discern who was from that village? I know that normally, marriages took place in the bride's village, but I don't know if that holds true for all marriages. Is it possible to get a literal translation of sorts of the first 13 lines of that document? I have a word list from the LDS church, but I'd like to add to it with some of these words that may be archaic in use. Thank you very much. Suzanne Researching most of Sao Jorge. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Interpretation of surname LIMA
Place name is Ponte de Lima. Here Lima is a river name. De: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] Em nome de luiznoia . Enviada: domingo, 20 de Julho de 2014 22:15 Para: Azores Genealogy Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Interpretation of surname LIMA Lima also refers to limestone. Like a place name, such as Ponta do Lima. Limestone Point Eric Edgar On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 2:09 PM, João Ventura j...@venturas.org mailto:j...@venturas.org wrote: Hello, Barbara, I don't have the same document as Antonio, but I fully support his answer. The only correction I'd like to make is that Limia/Lima is not a land, but a river. There's a land in Spain called Xinzo de Limia, but there's also a Ponte de Lima. Your surname can descend from this guy's family or simply from others that lived in one of these towns. João Ventura http:// On Sunday, 20 July 2014 22:42:28 UTC+2, A Faria wrote: Hi Barbara According to a book I have on the Noble families of Portugal . The first person recorded with the surname Lima was D. Joao Fernandes de Lima,(the good). He was from the land of Limia(Lima) in Galicia. Lima is also the Portuguese word for Lime. Antonio On Sunday, July 20, 2014 11:15:52 AM UTC-7, Barbara Bluhm wrote: Hello, does anyone have an interpretation of the surname Lima or da Lima? A person has told me that Lima means wood? Responses appreciated, Thanks, Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Baptism 20 years later
So I don't hijack the other thread... Here's the baptism of my ancestor, 20 years after his birth: Luis, top left: http://goo.gl/xKMGur I did this work years ago. Now that I look at it again, it appears to say that he was baptized in 1825. I don't think it's saying anything out of the ordinary though. Godparents, witnesses, the priest...that's all ordinary. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage of Vicente Jose - Lajedo, Flores
On page 208 in the Book of Marriages on Flores ia an entry for Vicente Jose with additional notes that says he may have been married a second time to Ana de Sao. Here is the entry and a link to the original document(left side of page). Anybody want to offer their interpretation? • Vicente José [f.º de Diogo Pimentel e de Ana Furtado] c. 1831.06.01 c. Maria de São José [f.ª de Mateus Furtado Gonçalves e de Ana de São José]. [Deve haver engano no registo, pois este Vicente José já em 1817.09.30 casara nas Lajes com esta Maria de São José. O casamento de 1831 terá sido possivelmente com Ana de São José, f.ª de Manuel de Freitas Peneireiro e de Maria Furtado, de quem teve pelo menos 5 filhos entre 1832 e 1842]. Link to orginal document: http://goo.gl/EPozrF Thanks, Bob Luis -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Awaiting results for Batch 575
I just spoke with FTDNA, concerning their email that they were sending me a new vial for collection. I had already sent that back on 6 July, so was concerned. I was told batch 575 may be 4-6 weeks off, but had a priority placed on it that may speed it up. Eric Edgar On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 7:50 AM, Marilyn Thompson mari...@jmtmlt.com wrote: I can txt you kit numbers if you need them On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 7:49 AM, Marilyn Thompson mari...@jmtmlt.com wrote: I actually have 2 tests. William Western Thompson and James A Miller incase you need to know names. On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 7:43 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: I'm on hold with them now. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Awaiting results for Batch 575
Part of batch 575 came in last week. I know that the customer service rep I talked to this morning was new, as I have never spoken with her before. But since they had to send you new vials, yours may be fast tracked. As far as I can tell from the admin pages, Family Finder and mtDNA is behind. It looks like they are working on the ones from the Father's Day sale last month, in June (as well as the genealogy show). The lab manager said NOT to have a sale in June because of the new lab equipment that was coming in. And they still had a mini sale anyways. And I notice that they have changed the layout of the personal pages AGAIN. ARRRGGH!! Doesn't I.T./Engineering have anything else to do??? On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 10:31 AM, luiznoia . noblankt...@gmail.com wrote: I just spoke with FTDNA, concerning their email that they were sending me a new vial for collection. I had already sent that back on 6 July, so was concerned. I was told batch 575 may be 4-6 weeks off, but had a priority placed on it that may speed it up. Eric Edgar On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 7:50 AM, Marilyn Thompson mari...@jmtmlt.com wrote: I can txt you kit numbers if you need them On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 7:49 AM, Marilyn Thompson mari...@jmtmlt.com wrote: I actually have 2 tests. William Western Thompson and James A Miller incase you need to know names. On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 7:43 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: I'm on hold with them now. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage of Vicente Jose - Lajedo, Flores
Bob, it says he is primeira vez viuvo first time widower of Maria de Sao Jose and marrying with Ana de Sao Jose at 1831 June 1st On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 1:19 PM, rml...@gmail.com rml...@gmail.com wrote: On page 208 in the Book of Marriages on Flores ia an entry for Vicente Jose with additional notes that says he may have been married a second time to Ana de Sao. Here is the entry and a link to the original document(left side of page). Anybody want to offer their interpretation? • Vicente José [f.º de Diogo Pimentel e de Ana Furtado] c. 1831.06.01 c. Maria de São José [f.ª de Mateus Furtado Gonçalves e de Ana de São José]. [Deve haver engano no registo, pois este Vicente José já em 1817.09.30 casara nas Lajes com esta Maria de São José. O casamento de 1831 terá sido possivelmente com Ana de São José, f.ª de Manuel de Freitas Peneireiro e de Maria Furtado, de quem teve pelo menos 5 filhos entre 1832 e 1842]. Link to orginal document: http://goo.gl/EPozrF Thanks, Bob Luis -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Margaret M Vicente -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptism 20 years later
Cheri, If I may point out this is not a birth record, it is a documented account of a birth record that went missing and here logged and witnessed: It does state he was *born* and *baptized* in 1825 by the then Rev. Cura Joao Jose Ferreira. This is a written statement only based on the swearing of the original godparents and his own parents along with the witnesses present at the baptism in 1825 over the holy oils because the original record was missing.and he goes on to say... for this I wrote and signed in this said place (page). Also please note the next page's baptism is dated 1822. So he went back in the book and found an empty page to add the missing record. Another thing is the CCA shows the year of record being 1837-1848 when we're reading records for 1821 etc. Important to note the Catholic church does *not* baptize twice it literally would be considered a sacrilege. Margaret On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: So I don't hijack the other thread... Here's the baptism of my ancestor, 20 years after his birth: Luis, top left: http://goo.gl/xKMGur I did this work years ago. Now that I look at it again, it appears to say that he was baptized in 1825. I don't think it's saying anything out of the ordinary though. Godparents, witnesses, the priest...that's all ordinary. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Margaret M Vicente -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptism 20 years later
After I looked it over this morning, I was thinking something like that may have been happening. Glad to know. And that they were conserving paper in 1825 and sticking random baptisms wherever they could find room because who would be looking almost 200 years later?? LOL On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Margaret Vicente margaretvice...@gmail.com wrote: Cheri, If I may point out this is not a birth record, it is a documented account of a birth record that went missing and here logged and witnessed: It does state he was *born* and *baptized* in 1825 by the then Rev. Cura Joao Jose Ferreira. This is a written statement only based on the swearing of the original godparents and his own parents along with the witnesses present at the baptism in 1825 over the holy oils because the original record was missing.and he goes on to say... for this I wrote and signed in this said place (page). Also please note the next page's baptism is dated 1822. So he went back in the book and found an empty page to add the missing record. Another thing is the CCA shows the year of record being 1837-1848 when we're reading records for 1821 etc. Important to note the Catholic church does *not* baptize twice it literally would be considered a sacrilege. Margaret On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: So I don't hijack the other thread... Here's the baptism of my ancestor, 20 years after his birth: Luis, top left: http://goo.gl/xKMGur I did this work years ago. Now that I look at it again, it appears to say that he was baptized in 1825. I don't think it's saying anything out of the ordinary though. Godparents, witnesses, the priest...that's all ordinary. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Margaret M Vicente -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptism 20 years later
Hi, I have a record from Flamengos that I found accidentally. My great-grandfather Luis Goncalves da Silva was born in 1860 according to his gravestone, but I could not find any baptism record at all. One day I was looking for someone else and found a note at the bottom of a page among baptism records at the bottom of a page with January births in 1858: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-FLAMENGOS-B-1844-1860/FAL-HT-FLAMENGOS-B-1844-1860_item1/P201.html (bottom left) That record pointed me to another entry in 1880 that contained the usual baptism information (except the actual date), including the parents and grand-parents. (http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-FLAMENGOS-B-1879-1892/FAL-HT-FLAMENGOS-B-1879-1892_item1/P24.html. This happy accident got me past a brick wall and led me through ancestors to 10th great grandparents from records were in the CCA records. Prior to that find, all I had was the name of Luis’ parents from the NEPS database. Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 10:12 AM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptism 20 years later So I don't hijack the other thread... Here's the baptism of my ancestor, 20 years after his birth: Luis, top left: http://goo.gl/xKMGur I did this work years ago. Now that I look at it again, it appears to say that he was baptized in 1825. I don't think it's saying anything out of the ordinary though. Godparents, witnesses, the priest...that's all ordinary. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptism 20 years later
Well, I'm voting that the priest had too much vinho and forgot to record it! ;) Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage of Vicente Jose - Lajedo, Flores
Thanks Margaret! On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Margaret Vicente margaretvice...@gmail.com wrote: Bob, it says he is primeira vez viuvo first time widower of Maria de Sao Jose and marrying with Ana de Sao Jose at 1831 June 1st On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 1:19 PM, rml...@gmail.com rml...@gmail.com wrote: On page 208 in the Book of Marriages on Flores ia an entry for Vicente Jose with additional notes that says he may have been married a second time to Ana de Sao. Here is the entry and a link to the original document(left side of page). Anybody want to offer their interpretation? • Vicente José [f.º de Diogo Pimentel e de Ana Furtado] c. 1831.06.01 c. Maria de São José [f.ª de Mateus Furtado Gonçalves e de Ana de São José]. [Deve haver engano no registo, pois este Vicente José já em 1817.09.30 casara nas Lajes com esta Maria de São José. O casamento de 1831 terá sido possivelmente com Ana de São José, f.ª de Manuel de Freitas Peneireiro e de Maria Furtado, de quem teve pelo menos 5 filhos entre 1832 e 1842]. Link to orginal document: http://goo.gl/EPozrF Thanks, Bob Luis -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Margaret M Vicente -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/nD9ZPQAFQdI/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Jose Correia Borba born 7 July 1875 on Pico to California married Lemos
Hi Cheri That is a surname very rarely found on Pico I have one in one of my line's in the early 1700's from Piedade it is found much more frequently in Sao Jorge. Antonio On Sunday, July 20, 2014 9:54:39 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote: Repost for Edna Lemos Epps,dave-edna at comcast.net I don't suppose anyone has a connection with a Joseph Coreia Borba dob 7-7-1875 in Pico? I don't know village. He came to USA in 1891 and settled in Northern California, Yreka or Hawkinsville area in Siskiyou, County. He married a Emilia Rose Lemos there in 1910. Emilia is a sister to my Grandfather George Lemos. Just curious as I see the Borba name on here. ♥Edna Lemos Epps -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] GRACIOSA - list of marriages
Eliseu, Thank you for this list! I have to imagine with all of the Conde and Vasconcellos from Graciosa that we are related at some point I was on Graciosa and Terceira for the first two weeks of July. It was great to visit Graciosa. Of course, with an island the size of Graciosa, the odds of running into a cousin is very high. We took the first taxi at the stand at the airport and the driver turned out to be a second cousin! As I am Portuguese language challenged, it was great to hear perfect English (he moved back to Graciosa from Massachusetts some 17 years ago.) Visiting the archives in Angra and getting to meet (the other) Joao Ventura was also an extra treat! A cousin from a line via Brazil to Switzerland (Conde line) also made the trip to Graciosa. Great encouragement to spend more time on my Portuguese half, especially with Graciosa available on the CCA site now! Obrigado, Bill From: Eliseu Pacheco da Silva eliseuman...@sapo.pt To: AZORES GENEALOGY - Google group azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 3:14 AM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] GRACIOSA - list of marriages I am attaching a list of my Graciosa direct ancestors marriages. If you find a connection please let me know about J. (if you do not understand the signs in it drop me a note) Eliseu Pacheco da Silva Researching Açores (São Miguel and Graciosa) and Alentejo ( http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel ) -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Awaiting results for Batch 575
Marilyn, My I inquire about your relatives William Western Thompson James A Miller? On my maternal side I have a Mary Ann Miller b: 1848 in Kentucky, m: 1868 in Iowa, d: 1884 in Oregon; and a two William Thompson's (both born in England 1763 1791). Thought Mary could be a sibling or possibly a child. Since my maternal side is not Portuguese you can e-mail me. Paul G. On Monday, July 21, 2014 10:49:26 AM UTC-4, Marilyn Thompson wrote: I actually have 2 tests. William Western Thompson and James A Miller incase you need to know names. On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 7:43 AM, Cheri Mello gfsc...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: I'm on hold with them now. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
