RE: [backstage] www.FreeTheBBC.info
It's a good thing for me, its better than what I and many people have currently. J -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Crossland Sent: 13 June 2007 01:32 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] www.FreeTheBBC.info On 13/06/07, Christopher Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: entirely). And that's why DRM discussion will just go round in circles until someone comes along which exhibits a demonstrable downside, which is both immediately explainable and fully obvious to the general tech-using population. Something like Sky requiring HDCP-compliant HDTVs for their SkyHD receives, I'd say You can download BBC shows from the internet to watch them later. But after 7 days, BBC will force your computer to delete your shows. Is that good or bad? was pretty clear :-) -- Regards, Dave - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] TV Anytime Data
At 07:47 13/06/2007, Adam Leach wrote: The TV Anytime data file is a zero byte file today. Could you please investigate. http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/feeds/tvradio/ http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/feeds/tvradio/20070613.tar.gz Adam, Problem noted and fixed. Cheers, Chris ___ Chris Newell Lead Technologist BBC Research Kingswood Warren Tel: +44 (0)1737 839659
Re: [backstage] TV Anytime Data
Excellent, thanks Chris Newell wrote: At 07:47 13/06/2007, Adam Leach wrote: The TV Anytime data file is a zero byte file today. Could you please investigate. http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/feeds/tvradio/ http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/feeds/tvradio/20070613.tar.gz Adam, Problem noted and fixed. Cheers, Chris ___ *Chris Newell *Lead Technologist *BBC Research *Kingswood Warren *Tel:* +44 (0)1737 839659 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] Re: Google Map Symbols Key
Re: Google Map Symbols Key an interactive version with improved graphics is now available: http://www.peepo.co.uk/temp/moulin/moulin.svg using CSS only ~: cheers Jonathan Chetwynd On 12 Jun 2007, at 15:42, ~:'' ありがとうございました。 wrote: Google Map Symbols Key how is it possible to add symbols to google maps? in addition to the current drawing-pin or text-bubbles. my hack demo: http://www.peepo.co.uk/temp/moulin/moulin.svg valuable prize for adding location and text. Example keys: Ordinance Survey: http://tinyurl.com/3axdny streetmap: http://www.streetmap.co.uk/mapkey.htm cheers ~: Jonathan Chetwynd Jonathan Chetwynd Accessibility Consultant on Learning Disabilities and the Internet 29 Crimsworth Road SW8 4RJ 020 7978 1764 http://www.eas-i.co.uk - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] www.FreeTheBBC.info
Also Walter Benjamin's 'The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Work_of_Art_in_the_Age_of_Mechanical_Reproduction http://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/ge/benjamin.htm An analysis of art in the age of mechanical reproduction must do justice to these relationships, for they lead us to an all-important insight: for the first time in world history, mechanical reproduction emancipates the work of art from its parasitical dependence on ritual. To an ever greater degree the work of art reproduced becomes the work of art designed for reproducibility. From a photographic negative, for example, one can make any number of prints; to ask for the authentic print makes no sense. But the instant the criterion of authenticity ceases to be applicable to artistic production, the total function of art is reversed. Instead of being based on ritual, it begins to be based on another practice – politics. Written, incidentally, in 1936. Pwnd. Required reading: Free Culture: The Nature and Future of Creativity by Lawrence Lessig ISBN 0143034650 The Future of Ideas by Lawrence Lessig ISBN 0375726446 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] www.FreeTheBBC.info
Ian Betteridge has critiqued the 5 claims made by http://www.freethebbc.info/ at http://www.technovia.co.uk/?p=1180 He concludes his post with Im against DRM - Im an associate member of the Free Software Foundation, avoid closed formats, and contribute every month to the Open Rights Group. I think that DRM is a bad idea, both for our culture as a whole and content creators in general. But making bogus arguments to an organisation which is in no position to offer most of what people think of as its content is simply a waste of effort. Jem -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Kim Plowright Sent: Wed 6/13/2007 11:00 AM To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] www.FreeTheBBC.info Also Walter Benjamin's 'The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Work_of_Art_in_the_Age_of_Mechanical_Reproduction http://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/ge/benjamin.htm An analysis of art in the age of mechanical reproduction must do justice to these relationships, for they lead us to an all-important insight: for the first time in world history, mechanical reproduction emancipates the work of art from its parasitical dependence on ritual. To an ever greater degree the work of art reproduced becomes the work of art designed for reproducibility. From a photographic negative, for example, one can make any number of prints; to ask for the authentic print makes no sense. But the instant the criterion of authenticity ceases to be applicable to artistic production, the total function of art is reversed. Instead of being based on ritual, it begins to be based on another practice - politics. Written, incidentally, in 1936. Pwnd. Required reading: Free Culture: The Nature and Future of Creativity by Lawrence Lessig ISBN 0143034650 The Future of Ideas by Lawrence Lessig ISBN 0375726446 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] www.FreeTheBBC.info
And whilst i'm at it. Martin Belam has also analysed the freebbc petition on currybet. http://www.currybet.net/cbet_blog/2007/06/free_the_bbc_drm_debate.php Hang on a minute. Didn't i make a plea yesterday not to resurrect this tired old debate. Sorry. Jem -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Jeremy Stone Sent: Wed 6/13/2007 11:53 AM To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk; backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] www.FreeTheBBC.info Ian Betteridge has critiqued the 5 claims made by http://www.freethebbc.info/ at http://www.technovia.co.uk/?p=1180 He concludes his post with I'm against DRM - I'm an associate member of the Free Software Foundation, avoid closed formats, and contribute every month to the Open Rights Group. I think that DRM is a bad idea, both for our culture as a whole and content creators in general. But making bogus arguments to an organisation which is in no position to offer most of what people think of as its content is simply a waste of effort. Jem -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Kim Plowright Sent: Wed 6/13/2007 11:00 AM To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] www.FreeTheBBC.info Also Walter Benjamin's 'The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Work_of_Art_in_the_Age_of_Mechanical_Reproduction http://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/ge/benjamin.htm An analysis of art in the age of mechanical reproduction must do justice to these relationships, for they lead us to an all-important insight: for the first time in world history, mechanical reproduction emancipates the work of art from its parasitical dependence on ritual. To an ever greater degree the work of art reproduced becomes the work of art designed for reproducibility. From a photographic negative, for example, one can make any number of prints; to ask for the authentic print makes no sense. But the instant the criterion of authenticity ceases to be applicable to artistic production, the total function of art is reversed. Instead of being based on ritual, it begins to be based on another practice - politics. Written, incidentally, in 1936. Pwnd. Required reading: Free Culture: The Nature and Future of Creativity by Lawrence Lessig ISBN 0143034650 The Future of Ideas by Lawrence Lessig ISBN 0375726446 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] www.FreeTheBBC.info
Dave Crossland wrote: So you're saying that _not_ filesharing is betraying friends and neighbours? Certainly. Because it's morally correct to share something that is not diminished by sharing? Correct! So where is the balance? I believe you're referring to the commonly-held misconception that there is a copyright balance. Please read http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/misinterpreting-copyright.html to understand why this concept is mistaken. No, not copyright balance. Economic balance. Or do you believe that the content creator (and as Michael pointed out, colleagues) doesn't deserve recompense? Deserve, no. Authors do not inherently deserve the right to control the publics use of their work; I didn't ask that - I asked if they deserve recompense. those rights are given to them by the public, and were intended to be given only in so far as that they benefitted the public. No, quote: Rather, it does this to modify their behavior: to provide an incentive for authors to write more and publish more. Society (and therefore I) has a moral obligation to uphold its end of the bargain - ie limit unpaid sharing. Corporate corruption of governments has weakened democracy very badly, and the way copyright is used against the public interest is an example of this wider problem with global society. Agree 100%. eg Disney are, wrt copyright, completely hypocritical bastards. I am similarly sickened by the situation in schools where rights holders are coming down on music clubs and essentially preventing musical performances. Authors need to find new business models that do not harm the public; they do exist, and there is a lot of money to be made in pursuing them. But they need society as a whole to agree to an approach. And for the past 40 years (or so) the predominantly physical transport of media has lead to a status-quo. Whilst it's appealing to rip it out roots and all - it's not pragmatic. So we have copyright - a legal tool used by the GPL. It's not going away. DRM, or rather LESS - is the issue. And I object to having to pay for each of these things. I object to paying for a new copy because my old player died. I'm glad to hear we agree on all of these things. We're closer than I think you think :) You're right, try: For *THE VAST MAJORITY OF MORALLY SOUND PEOPLE*, which is more likely to work? Morally sound people share with their friends. Morally sound people would accept their societal obligations and contribute to the artist to a societally accepted degree (yes, driven by capitalism) and then obtain the media, possibly electronically from a friend. Neither. Talk to teenagers - file sharing is here to stay. If your argument is that we raise morally bankrupt children then so be it. Teenagers however, are not the vast majority of people. No, but with the baby boom generation about to retire, en masse, young people are assuming positions of power previously unavailable. These young people have grown up with computers (although not the Internet) and understand that file sharing is a good thing to do. This has little to do with file sharing and more to do with economics and license enforcement. David - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] Jeremy Keith just announced tickets for dConstruct workshops go live tomorrow
Announcing via RSS and website that tickets for the dConstruct workshops are going on sale tomorrow. http://2007.dconstruct.org/workshops/ Cheers Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [ x ] private; [ ] ask first; [ ] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44 (0)2080083965 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] www.FreeTheBBC.info
Too late. :D _ From: Jeremy Stone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 June 2007 12:19 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk; backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk; backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] www.FreeTheBBC.info And whilst i'm at it. Martin Belam has also analysed the freebbc petition on currybet. http://www.currybet.net/cbet_blog/2007/06/free_the_bbc_drm_debate.php Hang on a minute. Didn't i make a plea yesterday not to resurrect this tired old debate. Sorry. Jem -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Jeremy Stone Sent: Wed 6/13/2007 11:53 AM To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk; backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] www.FreeTheBBC.info Ian Betteridge has critiqued the 5 claims made by http://www.freethebbc.info/ at http://www.technovia.co.uk/?p=1180 He concludes his post with I'm against DRM - I'm an associate member of the Free Software Foundation, avoid closed formats, and contribute every month to the Open Rights Group. I think that DRM is a bad idea, both for our culture as a whole and content creators in general. But making bogus arguments to an organisation which is in no position to offer most of what people think of as its content is simply a waste of effort. Jem -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Kim Plowright Sent: Wed 6/13/2007 11:00 AM To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] www.FreeTheBBC.info Also Walter Benjamin's 'The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Work_of_Art_in_the_Age_of_Mechanical_Reprod uction http://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/ge/benjamin.htm An analysis of art in the age of mechanical reproduction must do justice to these relationships, for they lead us to an all-important insight: for the first time in world history, mechanical reproduction emancipates the work of art from its parasitical dependence on ritual. To an ever greater degree the work of art reproduced becomes the work of art designed for reproducibility. From a photographic negative, for example, one can make any number of prints; to ask for the authentic print makes no sense. But the instant the criterion of authenticity ceases to be applicable to artistic production, the total function of art is reversed. Instead of being based on ritual, it begins to be based on another practice - politics. Written, incidentally, in 1936. Pwnd. Required reading: Free Culture: The Nature and Future of Creativity by Lawrence Lessig ISBN 0143034650 The Future of Ideas by Lawrence Lessig ISBN 0375726446 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] www.FreeTheBBC.info
Very much too late, I'm afraid :) On 13/06/07, Christopher Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Too late. :D -- *From:* Jeremy Stone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* 13 June 2007 12:19 *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk; backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk; backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk *Subject:* RE: [backstage] www.FreeTheBBC.info And whilst i'm at it. Martin Belam has also analysed the freebbc petition on currybet. http://www.currybet.net/cbet_blog/2007/06/free_the_bbc_drm_debate.php Hang on a minute. Didn't i make a plea yesterday not to resurrect this tired old debate. Sorry. Jem -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Jeremy Stone Sent: Wed 6/13/2007 11:53 AM To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk; backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] www.FreeTheBBC.info Ian Betteridge has critiqued the 5 claims made by http://www.freethebbc.info/ at http://www.technovia.co.uk/?p=1180 He concludes his post with I'm against DRM - I'm an associate member of the Free Software Foundation, avoid closed formats, and contribute every month to the Open Rights Group. I think that DRM is a bad idea, both for our culture as a whole and content creators in general. But making bogus arguments to an organisation which is in no position to offer most of what people think of as its content is simply a waste of effort. Jem -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Kim Plowright Sent: Wed 6/13/2007 11:00 AM To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] www.FreeTheBBC.info Also Walter Benjamin's 'The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Work_of_Art_in_the_Age_of_Mechanical_Reproduction http://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/ge/benjamin.htm An analysis of art in the age of mechanical reproduction must do justice to these relationships, for they lead us to an all-important insight: for the first time in world history, mechanical reproduction emancipates the work of art from its parasitical dependence on ritual. To an ever greater degree the work of art reproduced becomes the work of art designed for reproducibility. From a photographic negative, for example, one can make any number of prints; to ask for the authentic print makes no sense. But the instant the criterion of authenticity ceases to be applicable to artistic production, the total function of art is reversed. Instead of being based on ritual, it begins to be based on another practice - politics. Written, incidentally, in 1936. Pwnd. Required reading: Free Culture: The Nature and Future of Creativity by Lawrence Lessig ISBN 0143034650 The Future of Ideas by Lawrence Lessig ISBN 0375726446 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] Windows Home Server RC1 available for download
From Engadget Microsoft has just announced a tasty banana for all you code monkeys out there, in the form of the first publicly available download (well, for non-beta testers at least) of the widely anticipated Windows Home Server operating system. Release Candidate 1, as this build is known, is said to offer a number of improvements over previous betas, and is the first version that participants in the Code2Fame Challenge can use to work on their entries. http://feeds.engadget.com/~r/weblogsinc/engadget/~3/124341635/ What I find interesting is the new focus on home servers. Are we finally started to accept that people will store tons of films, music and pictures on there local network and use something like the AppleTV, Xbox media centre or Xbox360/PS3 to stream stuff over the network? Just a quick thought... Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [ x ] private; [ ] ask first; [ ] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44 (0)2080083965 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Windows Home Server RC1 available for download
I've both accepted and done it for quite a few years now. Just makes sense. An old Xbox with XBMC on it makes a cracking media centre machine, and hell, I had so many computer bits lying around I just bunged together an old server and slapped WS2003 on it (OS provided gratis by my Uni!) I know many aren't quite as inclined as I am to have more than one computer in their house, never mind one which is running headless and has to be adminned via remote desktop, but with the advent of little gadgets like the Drobo from datarobotics.com (think simplified best-of-both-worlds NAS/RAID which you can just plug into any device that'll support USB Mass Storage - including that new Netgear with the USB port, giving you huge amounts of networked storage without another PC!) we're on the cusp of something very cool. Obviously MS are pushing people to do this, and I suppose Apple are as well (and they have some cool new innovations for dotmac tie-ins including intelligent, self-discovering filesharing across several WANs in the Finder). It just makes sense really, doesn't it? That new Asus router which has the integrated harddrive and can carry on bittorrenting whilst your PC is turned off, now I like that (wouldn't mind getting my mitts on a unit, too!) It's when those kinda bits of hardware come into the £100-£150 range when we'll see mass adoption, combined with n-spec wifi for HD streaming, and then it'll be all about networked media access. I applied for the WHS RC1 beta, not sure if I'll receive a key for it though - and I doubt I'd want to replace WS2003 with it on my server. It doesnt look tweakable enough. -Original Message- From: Ian Forrester [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 June 2007 14:31 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] Windows Home Server RC1 available for download From Engadget Microsoft has just announced a tasty banana for all you code monkeys out there, in the form of the first publicly available download (well, for non-beta testers at least) of the widely anticipated Windows Home Server operating system. Release Candidate 1, as this build is known, is said to offer a number of improvements over previous betas, and is the first version that participants in the Code2Fame Challenge can use to work on their entries. http://feeds.engadget.com/~r/weblogsinc/engadget/~3/124341635/ What I find interesting is the new focus on home servers. Are we finally started to accept that people will store tons of films, music and pictures on there local network and use something like the AppleTV, Xbox media centre or Xbox360/PS3 to stream stuff over the network? Just a quick thought... Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [ x ] private; [ ] ask first; [ ] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44 (0)2080083965 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] BBC Microsoft Photosynth technical preview - very cool!
Just noticed this: http://labs.live.com/photosynth/blogs/Britain+In+Pictures+BBC+Collection.asp x Checking out Ely Cathedral right now, it's working really nicely for a tech preview! How come this wasn't mentioned on Backstage at some point? ;)
Re: [backstage] BBC Microsoft Photosynth technical preview - very cool!
The Photosynth technology preview runs only on Windows XP SP2 and Windows Vista. Ah well. shorttermmemoryloss.com Christopher Woods wrote: Just noticed this: http://labs.live.com/photosynth/blogs/Britain+In+Pictures+BBC+Collection.aspx Checking out Ely Cathedral right now, it's working really nicely for a tech preview! How come this wasn't mentioned on Backstage at some point? ;)
RE: [backstage] BBC Microsoft Photosynth technical preview - very cool!
So were you guys at the Beeb keeping this secret or what? :P _ From: Ian Forrester [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 June 2007 15:47 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] BBC Microsoft Photosynth technical preview - very cool! Because you just mentioned it :) Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [ x ] private; [ ] ask first; [ ] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44 (0)2080083965 _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Woods Sent: 13 June 2007 15:14 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] BBC Microsoft Photosynth technical preview - very cool! Just noticed this: http://labs.live.com/photosynth/blogs/Britain+In+Pictures+BBC+Collection.asp x Checking out Ely Cathedral right now, it's working really nicely for a tech preview! How come this wasn't mentioned on Backstage at some point? ;)
Re: [backstage] BBC Microsoft Photosynth technical preview - very cool!
On 13/06/07, Christopher Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So were you guys at the Beeb keeping this secret or what? :P Well if they where hiding it they weren't doing a very good job ;) http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/technology/archives/2007/06/07/the_bbc_and_microsoft_want_your_photos_to_synthesise_britain.html (nearly a week ago that was published). Only runs on XP SP2 and Vista, loses a point there. Gains points for the amusing line in the download times though: Dial up: Not recommended Loses points for recommending a gig of ram and needing meaty graphics cards. Andy -- SELECT * FROM remarks WHERE witty=1 LIMIT 1 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Windows Home Server RC1 available for download
The whole point of home server is that you connect to it like a appliance over a http connection. So it should run with no display. Although when setting it up you do need a monitor :( What I like about home server is the automatic backup and one drive/many drives feature. Basically you can throw in 5 drives and they come up as one big drive. You can also RAID it but home server makes that really easy for you to setup. Its all a bit like one of these - http://www.drobo.com/ Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [ x ] private; [ ] ask first; [ ] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44 (0)2080083965 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Woods Sent: 13 June 2007 16:25 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] Windows Home Server RC1 available for download From the screens it looks like it has all the same innovations as Vista does - heavier reliance on graphics acceleration (my server's running with a PCI Voodoo 3 3000 in it... One of the last cards I ever bought with a fanless heatsink!) and it's only got a 1.5ghz Athlon in it. WS2003 runs nicely, it boots in an alright time considering the amount of services it's running and it's an interface I'm far more familiar with both in terms of general daily usage and administration. I bet it's a right pain getting to grips with WHS if you're used to the familiar layout of the 2000/XP design. Old dog, new tricks and all that. -Original Message- From: Ben Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 June 2007 15:29 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Windows Home Server RC1 available for download WHS is built ontop of Windows 2003 Small Business and you can remote desktop into it the same you would with a normal server. You then have the added support the backup built in. Just downloaded the RC, just need some harddrives now. On 13/06/07, Christopher Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've both accepted and done it for quite a few years now. Just makes sense. An old Xbox with XBMC on it makes a cracking media centre machine, and hell, I had so many computer bits lying around I just bunged together an old server and slapped WS2003 on it (OS provided gratis by my Uni!) I know many aren't quite as inclined as I am to have more than one computer in their house, never mind one which is running headless and has to be adminned via remote desktop, but with the advent of little gadgets like the Drobo from datarobotics.com (think simplified best-of-both-worlds NAS/RAID which you can just plug into any device that'll support USB Mass Storage - including that new Netgear with the USB port, giving you huge amounts of networked storage without another PC!) we're on the cusp of something very cool. Obviously MS are pushing people to do this, and I suppose Apple are as well (and they have some cool new innovations for dotmac tie-ins including intelligent, self-discovering filesharing across several WANs in the Finder). It just makes sense really, doesn't it? That new Asus router which has the integrated harddrive and can carry on bittorrenting whilst your PC is turned off, now I like that (wouldn't mind getting my mitts on a unit, too!) It's when those kinda bits of hardware come into the £100-£150 range when we'll see mass adoption, combined with n-spec wifi for HD streaming, and then it'll be all about networked media access. I applied for the WHS RC1 beta, not sure if I'll receive a key for it though - and I doubt I'd want to replace WS2003 with it on my server. It doesn't look tweakable enough. -Original Message- From: Ian Forrester [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 June 2007 14:31 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] Windows Home Server RC1 available for download From Engadget Microsoft has just announced a tasty banana for all you code monkeys out there, in the form of the first publicly available download (well, for non-beta testers at least) of the widely anticipated Windows Home Server operating system. Release Candidate 1, as this build is known, is said to offer a number of improvements over previous betas, and is the first version that participants in the Code2Fame Challenge can use to work on their entries. http://feeds.engadget.com/~r/weblogsinc/engadget/~3/124341635/ What I find interesting is the new focus on home servers. Are we finally started to accept that people will store tons of films, music and pictures on there local network and use something like the AppleTV, Xbox media centre or Xbox360/PS3 to stream stuff over the network? Just a quick thought... Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [ x ] private; [ ] ask first; [ ] bloggable Senior Producer,
[backstage] Davy M - Mood News?
http://www.latedecember.com/sites/moodnews/ Davy - was trying to show someone mood news - has it gone? - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] BBC Microsoft Photosynth technical preview - very cool!
Gains a point for the Photosynth isn't up to running twice in the same browser error message when I tried to open two copies :D It seems that the behemoth's more fringe development teams are not without their own wry sense of humour :D It frustrates me also that it's only =XP, my primary machine is a 2000 box but the laptop runs XP and has a proper graphic card inside so bleh. I just VNC on to it. ;) Does anybody at the BBC have any more information regarding when Photosynth will be made a little more... Public? I'm ITCHING to stick some of my photos into it and see what comes out, I have some perfect projects which could utilise the Photosynth engine if only they made it into a usable beta g! -Original Message- From: Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 June 2007 18:34 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC Microsoft Photosynth technical preview - very cool! On 13/06/07, Christopher Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So were you guys at the Beeb keeping this secret or what? :P Well if they where hiding it they weren't doing a very good job ;) http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/technology/archives/2007/06/07/th e_bbc_and_microsoft_want_your_photos_to_synthesise_britain.html (nearly a week ago that was published). Only runs on XP SP2 and Vista, loses a point there. Gains points for the amusing line in the download times though: Dial up: Not recommended Loses points for recommending a gig of ram and needing meaty graphics cards. Andy -- SELECT * FROM remarks WHERE witty=1 LIMIT 1 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Windows Home Server RC1 available for download
On 13/06/07, Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The whole point of home server is that you connect to it like a appliance over a http connection. So it should run with no display. I would personally go for SSH. It's designed for remote admining, http isn't. Though a HTTP interface would be good for the higher level stuff. Completely agree that it should not run with a monitor though. Although when setting it up you do need a monitor :( Can't you connect a serial cable between the server and a laptop/PC or something? I also remembering reading about a server system that could be installed over a network (you probably want to make sure your the only person with access to that network first), or maybe I just imagined that bit. You certainly should not need a powerful graphics card. Should be able to install a server from a text console anyway. Graphics card are for your Desktop. or those boxes you plug straight into the T.V. Andy -- SELECT * FROM remarks WHERE witty=1 LIMIT 1 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Windows Home Server RC1 available for download
For sure Ian, We already have our own network broadcasting/server units at home :--) Have had for three years or more. In my case. Mac G5 plus 30 inch screen as desktop, with a 23 inch as a TV or second screen. add bittorrent, or DVD, or iTunes plus iChat.. with a terrabyte of disk space, 14 days of music, etc...etc.. etc. On a wifi network running over 5Kms radius. `Within which are another 3 networked Macs, one of which is attached to a Sony HD TV, with wireless mouse and keyboard, in another houseand a PC in fact Backstage is a part of my true network. It is great. Add Protools, and a 1500 watt surround speaker system, with the ability to play it very loud outside, with sunshine, and life is even better :-) In and output, plus sharing is totally second nature at home here. RichE On 13 Jun 2007, at 14:30, Ian Forrester wrote: From Engadget Microsoft has just announced a tasty banana for all you code monkeys out there, in the form of the first publicly available download (well, for non-beta testers at least) of the widely anticipated Windows Home Server operating system. Release Candidate 1, as this build is known, is said to offer a number of improvements over previous betas, and is the first version that participants in the Code2Fame Challenge can use to work on their entries. http://feeds.engadget.com/~r/weblogsinc/engadget/~3/124341635/ What I find interesting is the new focus on home servers. Are we finally started to accept that people will store tons of films, music and pictures on there local network and use something like the AppleTV, Xbox media centre or Xbox360/PS3 to stream stuff over the network? Just a quick thought... Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [ x ] private; [ ] ask first; [ ] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44 (0)2080083965 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/ mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail- archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Davy M - Mood News?
On 6/13/07, Kim Plowright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.latedecember.com/sites/moodnews/ Davy - was trying to show someone mood news - has it gone? Kim - try .co.uk ..
Re: [backstage] Davy M - Mood News?
http://www.latedecember.co.uk/sites/moodnews/good.php http://www.latedecember.com/sites/moodnews/ Davy - was trying to show someone mood news - has it gone? - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Davy M - Mood News?
I really like this idea, has lots of possibilities (I'm thinking of online stories) How does he decide what the mood is - good/ bad etc? What are the criteria? thanks, Dave http://davemiller.manme.org.uk/davemiller_art_blog/ On 13/06/07, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.latedecember.co.uk/sites/moodnews/good.php http://www.latedecember.com/sites/moodnews/ Davy - was trying to show someone mood news - has it gone? - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Davy M - Mood News?
Yep I'm a .co.uk these days :-) http://www.latedecember.co.uk/sites/moodnews/ How does he decide what the mood is - good/ bad etc? What are the criteria? It's all done by keywords/phrases and a scoring system. The database is about 400 entries. I've not mucked about with the main engine for a while (code is actually only a few lines!) but maintaining the db takes the time. Playing with the presentation is far more fun hence all the variations. There is one new thing coming up which groups the stories rating by topics - the first being beliefs/religions/morals http://www.latedecember.co.uk/sites/moodnews/mn-topic-faith-morals.html Might work with a bit less yellow :-) Cheers, Davy Mitchell -- Davy Mitchell Blog - http://www.latedecember.co.uk/sites/personal/davy/ Twitter - http://twitter.com/daftspaniel Skype - daftspaniel needgod.com - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
