Re: [backstage] BBC begins DVB-T2 test transmissions in preparation for HD on Freeview

2008-07-02 Thread Brian Butterworth
There is a specifications document now at:

http://www.dvb.org/technology/dvbt2/a122.tm3980r5.DVB-T2.pdf

2008/6/27 Matt Barber [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Anyone had any luck picking this up? I have a HDTV with a Freeview tuner,
 but have no idea if this is capable of picking up HD over the air... is it
 ATSC? I'm unsure of the specifics.

 --Matt




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RE: [backstage] MHEG-5 Wimbledon on Freesat?

2008-07-02 Thread Nick Reynolds-FMT
what I don't understand is why someone is saying they can't watch wimbledon on 
the BBC since I could watch it both on TV and live streamed on the bbc website 
yesterday



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The BBC is legal, Zattoo isn't?

Of course, this debate depends on how you interpret your definition of illegal 
broadcast! Zattoo is, they argue, merely rebroadcasting the channels in 
territories that can already receive them via other platforms (cable, DTV etc). 
This they argue is entirely legal.
 
If people are up in arms about it, I find it puzzling that (unless I'm mistaken 
or I missed something) no broadcaster has come forward as of yet, to declare 
that they do not wish for their channels to be rebroadcast on the Zattoo 
platform. I'm personally in favour of Zattoo continuing, it's very handy as a 
fallback if the atmospherics aren't in my favour so my DTV signal breaks up 
(yeah, it's THAT bad sometimes!)
winmail.dat

RE: [backstage] MHEG-5 Wimbledon on Freesat?

2008-07-02 Thread Andrew Bowden
It is indeed.




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Thanks for that.  

Is this public information?


2008/7/1 Andrew Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Interactive (video) sport services are still in
development - will be ready for the Olympics!
 
Andrew takes off his Product Manager, BBCi on Freesat
hat now :)




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Subject: [backstage] MHEG-5 Wimbledon on
Freesat?


Open question...

There seems to be most of the MHEG-5 services
that you get on Freeview on Freesat now (Weather maps, for example), but
not the interactive Sport screens.   Do I need an update I don't have
for the box, or is BBCi Sport on Freesat still waiting for kickoff?

Cheers

Brian Butterworth





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Re: [backstage] BBC begins DVB-T2 test transmissions in preparation for HD on Freeview

2008-07-02 Thread Brian Butterworth
I just asked Hauppauge if any of their exiting kit would work with DVB-T2,
and they said

I'm afraid that we do not have any product that would support DVB-T2, at
the same time there's no plan of releasing one, at least until 2009. 

Looks like a very closed trial to me!

2008/6/27 Steve Jolly [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Gareth Davis wrote:

 I'm sure someone down at KW will know chapter and verse on this, but AFAIK
 there are no IDTVs currently on the market that will be compatible with the
 test transmissions.


 Correct.  There are no receivers currently available that are compatible
 with DVB-T2, be they STBs, IDTVs or DVB-T cards for PCs.  If you want to
 receive HD on a PC, your best bet is to get a DVB-S compatible card and
 watch the BBC HD channel via satellite. :-)

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[backstage] New Government APIs (plus win 20k to develop your mashup idea)

2008-07-02 Thread Tom Loosemore
The Cabinet Office's Power of Information Task Force just launched a
competition for mash up ideas using public data. See
www.ShowUsABetterway.com

Some new government APIsand data dumps  too:

http://www.showusabetterway.co.uk/call/data.html

Neighbourhood Statistics API from the ONS, Health care information API
from NHS Choices, a list of all UK schools from the DCSF and the zip
of Official Notices from the London Gazette.
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[backstage] Election Observers verdict on London Elections e-counting

2008-07-02 Thread Glyn Wintle
The Open Rights Group's report into e-counting of votes cast in the London 
Elections is out today.

http://www.openrightsgroup.org/2008/07/02/org-verdict-on-london-elections-insufficient-evidence-to-declare-confidence-in-results/

The report finds that:

  there is insufficient evidence available to allow independent observers to 
state reliably whether the results declared in the May 2008 elections for the 
Mayor of London and the London Assembly are an accurate representation of 
voters' intentions.

Votes for London Mayor and the 25 member London Assembly were counted 
electronically, and overall the election was well-managed by the independent 
body set up to run elections in London, London Elects.

However, transparency around the recording of valid votes was a major issue, 
leading many of our team of 27 official observers to conclude that they were 
unable to observe votes being counted. And while hundreds of screens set up by 
vote scanners showed almost meaningless data to observers, London Elects admit 
that the system was likely to be recording blank ballots as valid votes.

The report also details how London Elects are unable to publish an audit, 
commissioned from KPMG, of some of the software used to count the London vote, 
because of disputes over commercial confidentiality. The situation highlights 
the problems that arise when the very public function of running elections is 
mixed with issues of commercial confidentiality and proprietary software. In 
the context of a public election, it is unacceptable that these issues should 
preclude the publication of the KPMG audit. 


  
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Re: [backstage] New Government APIs (plus win 20k to develop your mashup idea)

2008-07-02 Thread Brian Butterworth
This looks quite interesting...

http://openspace.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/openspace/

2008/7/2 Tom Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 The Cabinet Office's Power of Information Task Force just launched a
 competition for mash up ideas using public data. See
 www.ShowUsABetterway.com

 Some new government APIsand data dumps  too:

 http://www.showusabetterway.co.uk/call/data.html

 Neighbourhood Statistics API from the ONS, Health care information API
 from NHS Choices, a list of all UK schools from the DCSF and the zip
 of Official Notices from the London Gazette.
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Re: [backstage] BBC begins DVB-T2 test transmissions in preparation for HD on Freeview

2008-07-02 Thread Steve Jolly

Brian Butterworth wrote:
I just asked Hauppauge if any of their exiting kit would work with 
DVB-T2, and they said


I'm afraid that we do not have any product that would support DVB-T2, 
at the same time there's no plan of releasing one, at least until 2009. 


Looks like a very closed trial to me!


It's not a trial, it's a test of the technology.  And yes, it's a closed 
test.


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Re: [backstage] New Government APIs (plus win 20k to develop your mashup idea)

2008-07-02 Thread Peter Bowyer
$DAYJOB hat on - I can help get queries about the NHS Choices data answered.

Peter

On 02/07/2008, Tom Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The Cabinet Office's Power of Information Task Force just launched a
 competition for mash up ideas using public data. See
 www.ShowUsABetterway.com

 Some new government APIsand data dumps  too:

 http://www.showusabetterway.co.uk/call/data.html

 Neighbourhood Statistics API from the ONS, Health care information API
 from NHS Choices, a list of all UK schools from the DCSF and the zip
 of Official Notices from the London Gazette.
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Re: [backstage] New Government APIs (plus win 20k to develop your mashup idea)

2008-07-02 Thread Tom Loosemore
... read the licence constraints first still, it's a start!

2008/7/2 Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 This looks quite interesting...

 http://openspace.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/openspace/

 2008/7/2 Tom Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 The Cabinet Office's Power of Information Task Force just launched a
 competition for mash up ideas using public data. See
 www.ShowUsABetterway.com

 Some new government APIsand data dumps  too:

 http://www.showusabetterway.co.uk/call/data.html

 Neighbourhood Statistics API from the ONS, Health care information API
 from NHS Choices, a list of all UK schools from the DCSF and the zip
 of Official Notices from the London Gazette.
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RE: [backstage] New Government APIs (plus win 20k to develop your mashup idea)

2008-07-02 Thread Adam Hatia
On the subject of open maps (or not so in the case of the OS), you might
be interested in this project: http://openstreetmap.org/ 

 

(the idea being to create open  free to use street map data)

 

 



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Sent: 02 July 2008 12:02
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
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your mashup idea)

 

This looks quite interesting...

http://openspace.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/openspace/

2008/7/2 Tom Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

The Cabinet Office's Power of Information Task Force just launched a
competition for mash up ideas using public data. See
www.ShowUsABetterway.com

Some new government APIsand data dumps  too:

http://www.showusabetterway.co.uk/call/data.html

Neighbourhood Statistics API from the ONS, Health care information API
from NHS Choices, a list of all UK schools from the DCSF and the zip
of Official Notices from the London Gazette.
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[backstage] BBC Widget, nice!

2008-07-02 Thread Brian Butterworth
Just looking at the BBC Widget...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/07/free_range_widgets.html

Seems OK, but it does fall into the recycled feeds category...

Love the blurry slide to read the story!

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Re: [backstage] New Government APIs (plus win 20k to develop your mashup idea)

2008-07-02 Thread Rafiq Swash
I am building a football discussion website.  I would like to use BBC API to 
retrieve football scores and also league tables.  Is there anyone who can give 
a little tip please.  thank you


regards,

Rafiq


From: Adam Hatia 
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 2:25 PM
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk 
Subject: RE: [backstage] New Government APIs (plus win 20k to develop your 
mashup idea)


On the subject of open maps (or not so in the case of the OS), you might be 
interested in this project: http://openstreetmap.org/ 



(the idea being to create open  free to use street map data)








From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth
Sent: 02 July 2008 12:02
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] New Government APIs (plus win 20k to develop your 
mashup idea)



This looks quite interesting...

http://openspace.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/openspace/

2008/7/2 Tom Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

The Cabinet Office's Power of Information Task Force just launched a
competition for mash up ideas using public data. See
www.ShowUsABetterway.com

Some new government APIsand data dumps  too:

http://www.showusabetterway.co.uk/call/data.html

Neighbourhood Statistics API from the ONS, Health care information API
from NHS Choices, a list of all UK schools from the DCSF and the zip
of Official Notices from the London Gazette.
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Re: [backstage] New Government APIs (plus win 20k to develop your mashup idea)

2008-07-02 Thread Adam
I doubt you have very little chance with the BBC as i think they 
republished information maintained by a third party who have very strict 
distribution rules. 

Your probably better trying to talk to the FA.  Alternativly there is 
the following message at the bottom of the fixture list, however its 
probably very expensive to purchase the rights.


Copyright © and Database Right 2008[/9] The Football Association Premier 
League Ltd / The Football League Ltd / The Scottish Premier League Ltd / 
The Scottish Football League. All rights reserved. No part of this 
publication may be reproduced, stored in a retrieval system or 
transmitted in any way or by any means, (including photocopying, 
recording or storing it in any medium by electronic means), without the 
written permission of the copyright/database right owner. Applications 
for written permission should be addressed c/o Football DataCo Ltd, 30 
Gloucester Place, London W1U 8PL.


Rafiq Swash wrote:
I am building a football discussion website.  I would like to use BBC 
API to retrieve football scores and also league tables.  Is there 
anyone who can give a little tip please.  thank you
 
 
regards,
 
Rafiq


*From:* Adam Hatia mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 02, 2008 2:25 PM
*To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk mailto:backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
*Subject:* RE: [backstage] New Government APIs (plus win 20k to 
develop your mashup idea)


On the subject of open maps (or not so in the case of the OS), you 
might be interested in this project: http://openstreetmap.org/


 


(the idea being to create open  free to use street map data)

 

 




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mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Brian Butterworth

*Sent:* 02 July 2008 12:02
*To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk mailto:backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
*Subject:* Re: [backstage] New Government APIs (plus win 20k to 
develop your mashup idea)


 


This looks quite interesting...

http://openspace.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/openspace/

2008/7/2 Tom Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

The Cabinet Office's Power of Information Task Force just launched a
competition for mash up ideas using public data. See
www.ShowUsABetterway.com http://www.ShowUsABetterway.com

Some new government APIsand data dumps  too:

http://www.showusabetterway.co.uk/call/data.html

Neighbourhood Statistics API from the ONS, Health care information API
from NHS Choices, a list of all UK schools from the DCSF and the zip
of Official Notices from the London Gazette.
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Re: [backstage] New Government APIs (plus win 20k to develop your mashup idea)

2008-07-02 Thread Rafiq Swash
Thank you very much Adam !  I will try to contact to FA or other premier league 
Co.  lets see if I can find a free source.

I have been looking for a source, where I can read All football clubs and 
national teams and football score information via web services.  However, I 
could not find one yet.   I can use Wiki to get football players details but I 
need to a free source, where I can get football scores and league table info.  
I cannot effort paying for this as the website is not commercial website.  it 
is just a football discussion sites, where all friends and football fan can 
have their talks.

regards,

Rafiq




From: Adam 
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 3:14 PM
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk 
Subject: Re: [backstage] New Government APIs (plus win 20k to develop your 
mashup idea)


I doubt you have very little chance with the BBC as i think they republished 
information maintained by a third party who have very strict distribution 
rules.  

Your probably better trying to talk to the FA.  Alternativly there is the 
following message at the bottom of the fixture list, however its probably very 
expensive to purchase the rights.

Copyright © and Database Right 2008[/9] The Football Association Premier League 
Ltd / The Football League Ltd / The Scottish Premier League Ltd / The Scottish 
Football League. All rights reserved. No part of this publication may be 
reproduced, stored in a retrieval system or transmitted in any way or by any 
means, (including photocopying, recording or storing it in any medium by 
electronic means), without the written permission of the copyright/database 
right owner. Applications for written permission should be addressed c/o 
Football DataCo Ltd, 30 Gloucester Place, London W1U 8PL. 

Rafiq Swash wrote: 
  I am building a football discussion website.  I would like to use BBC API to 
retrieve football scores and also league tables.  Is there anyone who can give 
a little tip please.  thank you


  regards,

  Rafiq


  From: Adam Hatia 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 2:25 PM
  To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk 
  Subject: RE: [backstage] New Government APIs (plus win 20k to develop your 
mashup idea)


  On the subject of open maps (or not so in the case of the OS), you might be 
interested in this project: http://openstreetmap.org/ 



  (the idea being to create open  free to use street map data)






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  Sent: 02 July 2008 12:02
  To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
  Subject: Re: [backstage] New Government APIs (plus win 20k to develop your 
mashup idea)



  This looks quite interesting...

  http://openspace.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/openspace/

  2008/7/2 Tom Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  The Cabinet Office's Power of Information Task Force just launched a
  competition for mash up ideas using public data. See
  www.ShowUsABetterway.com

  Some new government APIsand data dumps  too:

  http://www.showusabetterway.co.uk/call/data.html

  Neighbourhood Statistics API from the ONS, Health care information API
  from NHS Choices, a list of all UK schools from the DCSF and the zip
  of Official Notices from the London Gazette.
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RE: [backstage] New Government APIs (plus win 20k to develop your mashup idea)

2008-07-02 Thread Andrew Bowden
I'm not sure you'll find anything free - as I recall there were a
several incidents a few years ago where the data owners went after
websites who were putting tables and fixtures up without paying a
licence fee.
 
But you never know.





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rafiq Swash
Sent: 02 July 2008 15:26
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] New Government APIs (plus win 20k to
develop your mashup idea)


Thank you very much Adam !  I will try to contact to FA or other
premier league Co.  lets see if I can find a free source.
 
I have been looking for a source, where I can read All football
clubs and national teams and football score information via web
services.  However, I could not find one yet.   I can use Wiki to get
football players details but I need to a free source, where I can get
football scores and league table info.  I cannot effort paying for this
as the website is not commercial website.  it is just a football
discussion sites, where all friends and football fan can have their
talks.
 
regards,
 
Rafiq
 
 

From: Adam mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 3:14 PM
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk 
Subject: Re: [backstage] New Government APIs (plus win 20k to
develop your mashup idea)

I doubt you have very little chance with the BBC as i think they
republished information maintained by a third party who have very strict
distribution rules.  

Your probably better trying to talk to the FA.  Alternativly
there is the following message at the bottom of the fixture list,
however its probably very expensive to purchase the rights.

Copyright (c) and Database Right 2008[/9] The Football
Association Premier League Ltd / The Football League Ltd / The Scottish
Premier League Ltd / The Scottish Football League. All rights reserved.
No part of this publication may be reproduced, stored in a retrieval
system or transmitted in any way or by any means, (including
photocopying, recording or storing it in any medium by electronic
means), without the written permission of the copyright/database right
owner. Applications for written permission should be addressed c/o
Football DataCo Ltd, 30 Gloucester Place, London W1U 8PL. 

Rafiq Swash wrote: 

I am building a football discussion website.  I would
like to use BBC API to retrieve football scores and also league tables.
Is there anyone who can give a little tip please.  thank you
 
 
regards,
 
Rafiq

From: Adam Hatia mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 2:25 PM
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk 
Subject: RE: [backstage] New Government APIs (plus win
20k to develop your mashup idea)


On the subject of open maps (or not so in the case of
the OS), you might be interested in this project:
http://openstreetmap.org/ 

 

(the idea being to create open  free to use street map
data)

 

 





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth
Sent: 02 July 2008 12:02
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] New Government APIs (plus win
20k to develop your mashup idea)

 

This looks quite interesting...

http://openspace.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/openspace/

2008/7/2 Tom Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

The Cabinet Office's Power of Information Task Force
just launched a
competition for mash up ideas using public data. See
www.ShowUsABetterway.com

Some new government APIsand data dumps  too:

http://www.showusabetterway.co.uk/call/data.html

Neighbourhood Statistics API from the ONS, Health care
information API
from NHS Choices, a list of all UK schools from the DCSF
and the zip
of Official Notices from the London Gazette.
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[backstage] iPlayer 2 - wow!

2008-07-02 Thread Brian Butterworth
The new iPlayer looks great and seems to work exceptionally well

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayerbeta/

It all works as advertised here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/emp/iplayerbeta/

Just one tiny little niggle..  if you start listening to a radio programme
using RealPlayer (I'm not in the UK right now) and then click to use the
pop-out version, the programme starts from the beginning again, whereas it
would be more useful if it automatically navigated to the place where you
were already at.


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RE: [backstage] New Government APIs (plus win 20k to develop your mashup idea)

2008-07-02 Thread Andrew Bowden
In fact there's some debate on this from 2005 on the backstage website
http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/ideas/archives/2005/05/league_tables.html




From: Andrew Bowden 
Sent: 02 July 2008 15:46
To: 'backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk'
Subject: RE: [backstage] New Government APIs (plus win 20k to
develop your mashup idea)


I'm not sure you'll find anything free - as I recall there were
a several incidents a few years ago where the data owners went after
websites who were putting tables and fixtures up without paying a
licence fee.
 
But you never know.





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rafiq Swash
Sent: 02 July 2008 15:26
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] New Government APIs (plus win
20k to develop your mashup idea)


Thank you very much Adam !  I will try to contact to FA
or other premier league Co.  lets see if I can find a free source.
 
I have been looking for a source, where I can read All
football clubs and national teams and football score information via web
services.  However, I could not find one yet.   I can use Wiki to get
football players details but I need to a free source, where I can get
football scores and league table info.  I cannot effort paying for this
as the website is not commercial website.  it is just a football
discussion sites, where all friends and football fan can have their
talks.
 
regards,
 
Rafiq
 
 

From: Adam mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 3:14 PM
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk 
Subject: Re: [backstage] New Government APIs (plus win
20k to develop your mashup idea)

I doubt you have very little chance with the BBC as i
think they republished information maintained by a third party who have
very strict distribution rules.  

Your probably better trying to talk to the FA.
Alternativly there is the following message at the bottom of the fixture
list, however its probably very expensive to purchase the rights.

Copyright (c) and Database Right 2008[/9] The Football
Association Premier League Ltd / The Football League Ltd / The Scottish
Premier League Ltd / The Scottish Football League. All rights reserved.
No part of this publication may be reproduced, stored in a retrieval
system or transmitted in any way or by any means, (including
photocopying, recording or storing it in any medium by electronic
means), without the written permission of the copyright/database right
owner. Applications for written permission should be addressed c/o
Football DataCo Ltd, 30 Gloucester Place, London W1U 8PL. 

Rafiq Swash wrote: 

I am building a football discussion website.  I
would like to use BBC API to retrieve football scores and also league
tables.  Is there anyone who can give a little tip please.  thank you
 
 
regards,
 
Rafiq

From: Adam Hatia mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 2:25 PM
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk 
Subject: RE: [backstage] New Government APIs
(plus win 20k to develop your mashup idea)


On the subject of open maps (or not so in the
case of the OS), you might be interested in this project:
http://openstreetmap.org/ 

 

(the idea being to create open  free to use
street map data)

 

 





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth
Sent: 02 July 2008 12:02
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] New Government APIs
(plus win 20k to develop your mashup idea)

 

This looks quite interesting...

http://openspace.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/openspace/

2008/7/2 Tom Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

The Cabinet Office's Power of Information Task
Force just launched a
competition for mash up ideas using public data.
See
www.ShowUsABetterway.com

 

Re: [backstage] New Government APIs (plus win 20k to develop your mashup idea)

2008-07-02 Thread Rafiq Swash
MediaWiki provides the content of the site as database, which is for 
non-commercial purposes.  Do you think, it is ok if I used it for my website, 
which I am not making money from.  It is just there for my friends and football 
lovers to discuss about up coming matches and passed matches.I need to find 
all football clubs and football players info/profile.  I am just thinking of 
download MediaWiki database and run it locally on my web server.I hope it 
is ok as i am not making money from the website.  I am happy to mentioned the 
content e.g. powered by wiki etc..


regards,

Rafiq


From: Andrew Bowden 
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 3:45 PM
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk 
Subject: RE: [backstage] New Government APIs (plus win 20k to develop your 
mashup idea)


I'm not sure you'll find anything free - as I recall there were a several 
incidents a few years ago where the data owners went after websites who were 
putting tables and fixtures up without paying a licence fee.

But you never know.



--
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rafiq Swash
  Sent: 02 July 2008 15:26
  To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
  Subject: Re: [backstage] New Government APIs (plus win 20k to develop your 
mashup idea)


  Thank you very much Adam !  I will try to contact to FA or other premier 
league Co.  lets see if I can find a free source.

  I have been looking for a source, where I can read All football clubs and 
national teams and football score information via web services.  However, I 
could not find one yet.   I can use Wiki to get football players details but I 
need to a free source, where I can get football scores and league table info.  
I cannot effort paying for this as the website is not commercial website.  it 
is just a football discussion sites, where all friends and football fan can 
have their talks.

  regards,

  Rafiq




  From: Adam 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 3:14 PM
  To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk 
  Subject: Re: [backstage] New Government APIs (plus win 20k to develop your 
mashup idea)


  I doubt you have very little chance with the BBC as i think they republished 
information maintained by a third party who have very strict distribution 
rules.  

  Your probably better trying to talk to the FA.  Alternativly there is the 
following message at the bottom of the fixture list, however its probably very 
expensive to purchase the rights.

  Copyright © and Database Right 2008[/9] The Football Association Premier 
League Ltd / The Football League Ltd / The Scottish Premier League Ltd / The 
Scottish Football League. All rights reserved. No part of this publication may 
be reproduced, stored in a retrieval system or transmitted in any way or by any 
means, (including photocopying, recording or storing it in any medium by 
electronic means), without the written permission of the copyright/database 
right owner. Applications for written permission should be addressed c/o 
Football DataCo Ltd, 30 Gloucester Place, London W1U 8PL. 

  Rafiq Swash wrote: 
I am building a football discussion website.  I would like to use BBC API 
to retrieve football scores and also league tables.  Is there anyone who can 
give a little tip please.  thank you


regards,

Rafiq


From: Adam Hatia 
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 2:25 PM
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk 
Subject: RE: [backstage] New Government APIs (plus win 20k to develop your 
mashup idea)


On the subject of open maps (or not so in the case of the OS), you might be 
interested in this project: http://openstreetmap.org/ 



(the idea being to create open  free to use street map data)








From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian 
Butterworth
Sent: 02 July 2008 12:02
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] New Government APIs (plus win 20k to develop your 
mashup idea)



This looks quite interesting...

http://openspace.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/openspace/

2008/7/2 Tom Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

The Cabinet Office's Power of Information Task Force just launched a
competition for mash up ideas using public data. See
www.ShowUsABetterway.com

Some new government APIsand data dumps  too:

http://www.showusabetterway.co.uk/call/data.html

Neighbourhood Statistics API from the ONS, Health care information API
from NHS Choices, a list of all UK schools from the DCSF and the zip
of Official Notices from the London Gazette.
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[backstage] Conference calls

2008-07-02 Thread Gavin Pearce
 
Good day to you lovely people  =),
 
Bit of topic I do apologise, but might be able to point me in the right
direction.
 
Conference calls, we all love to hate them.
We're a small business and sometimes find ourselves getting asked if we can
set-up a conference call.
 
We don't get asked often enough to warrant paying for a monthly
subscription, so has to be something on the fly.
 
conferencegenie.co.uk looks good, but you can't password protect a room,
which is a bit of an issue in my opinion.
If you picked the same room number as someone else, you would get very
confused!
 
Any suggestions or ideas?
 
Cheers,
- Gav

Gavin Pearce | Junior Web Developer | TBS
The Columbia Centre, Market Street, Bracknell, RG12 1JG, United Kingdom 
Direct: +44 (0) 1344 403488 | Office: +44 (0) 1344 306011 | Fax: +44 (0)
1344 427138 
MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Yahoo: pearce.gavin | Skype: tbs.gavin 
www.tbs.uk.com  http://www.tbs.uk.com/ http://www.tbs.uk.com/ 

TBS is a trading name of Technology Services International Limited.
Registered in England, company number 2079459. 

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Bowden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 02 July 2008 15:47
To: Andrew Bowden; backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: RE: [backstage] New Government APIs (plus win 20k to develop your
mashup idea)


In fact there's some debate on this from 2005 on the backstage website
http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/ideas/archives/2005/05/league_tables.html
http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/ideas/archives/2005/05/league_tables.html 


  _  

From: Andrew Bowden 
Sent: 02 July 2008 15:46
To: 'backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk'
Subject: RE: [backstage] New Government APIs (plus win 20k to develop your
mashup idea)


I'm not sure you'll find anything free - as I recall there were a several
incidents a few years ago where the data owners went after websites who were
putting tables and fixtures up without paying a licence fee.

But you never know.



  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rafiq Swash
Sent: 02 July 2008 15:26
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] New Government APIs (plus win 20k to develop your
mashup idea)


Thank you very much Adam !  I will try to contact to FA or other premier
league Co.  lets see if I can find a free source.
 
I have been looking for a source, where I can read All football clubs and
national teams and football score information via web services.  However, I
could not find one yet.   I can use Wiki to get football players details but
I need to a free source, where I can get football scores and league table
info.  I cannot effort paying for this as the website is not commercial
website.  it is just a football discussion sites, where all friends and
football fan can have their talks.
 
regards,
 
Rafiq
 
 

From: Adam mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 3:14 PM
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk mailto:backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk  
Subject: Re: [backstage] New Government APIs (plus win 20k to develop your
mashup idea)

I doubt you have very little chance with the BBC as i think they republished
information maintained by a third party who have very strict distribution
rules.  

Your probably better trying to talk to the FA.  Alternativly there is the
following message at the bottom of the fixture list, however its probably
very expensive to purchase the rights.

Copyright © and Database Right 2008[/9] The Football Association Premier
League Ltd / The Football League Ltd / The Scottish Premier League Ltd / The
Scottish Football League. All rights reserved. No part of this publication
may be reproduced, stored in a retrieval system or transmitted in any way or
by any means, (including photocopying, recording or storing it in any medium
by electronic means), without the written permission of the
copyright/database right owner. Applications for written permission should
be addressed c/o Football DataCo Ltd, 30 Gloucester Place, London W1U 8PL. 

Rafiq Swash wrote: 

I am building a football discussion website.  I would like to use BBC API to
retrieve football scores and also league tables.  Is there anyone who can
give a little tip please.  thank you
 
 
regards,
 
Rafiq

From: Adam  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hatia 
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 2:25 PM
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk mailto:backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk  
Subject: RE: [backstage] New Government APIs (plus win 20k to develop your
mashup idea)


On the subject of open maps (or not so in the case of the OS), you might be
interested in this project: http://openstreetmap.org/
http://openstreetmap.org/  



(the idea being to create open  free to use street map data)





  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  [
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth
Sent: 02 July 2008 12:02
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk mailto:backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk 
Subject: Re: [backstage] New Government APIs (plus win 20k to develop your
mashup idea)

 

This 

Re: [backstage] Conference calls

2008-07-02 Thread Nick Crossland
 conferencegenie.co.uk looks good, but you can't password protect a room,
 which is a bit of an issue in my opinion.
 If you picked the same room number as someone else, you would get very
 confused!

For private rooms, it says it's £10+VAT one-off, not per month.

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Re: [backstage] Conference calls

2008-07-02 Thread Brian Butterworth
There's always POTS

http://www.conferencing.bt.com/product_services/audioservices/btconferencecallglobal.jsp

2008/7/2 Gavin Pearce [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


  Good day to you lovely people  =),

 Bit of topic I do apologise, but might be able to point me in the right
 direction.

 Conference calls, we all love to hate them.
 We're a small business and sometimes find ourselves getting asked if we can
 set-up a conference call.

 We don't get asked often enough to warrant paying for a monthly
 subscription, so has to be something on the fly.

 conferencegenie.co.uk looks good, but you can't password protect a room,
 which is a bit of an issue in my opinion.
 If you picked the same room number as someone else, you would get very
 confused!

 Any suggestions or ideas?

 Cheers,
 - Gav

 *Gavin Pearce* |* Junior Web Developer* |* TBS
 *The Columbia Centre, Market Street, Bracknell, RG12 1JG, United Kingdom
 Direct: +44 (0) 1344 403488 | Office: +44 (0) 1344 306011 | Fax: +44 (0)
 1344 427138
 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Yahoo: pearce.gavin | Skype: tbs.gavin
 *www.tbs.uk.com http://www.tbs.uk.com/
 *
 *TBS is a trading name of Technology Services International Limited.
 Registered in England, company number 2079459.*

 -Original Message-
 *From:* Andrew Bowden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *Sent:* 02 July 2008 15:47
 *To:* Andrew Bowden; backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
 *Subject:* RE: [backstage] New Government APIs (plus win 20k to develop
 your mashup idea)

 In fact there's some debate on this from 2005 on the backstage website
 http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/ideas/archives/2005/05/league_tables.html

  --
 *From:* Andrew Bowden
 *Sent:* 02 July 2008 15:46
 *To:* 'backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk'
 *Subject:* RE: [backstage] New Government APIs (plus win 20k to develop
 your mashup idea)

  I'm not sure you'll find anything free - as I recall there were a several
 incidents a few years ago where the data owners went after websites who were
 putting tables and fixtures up without paying a licence fee.
  But you never know.

  --
 *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Rafiq Swash
 *Sent:* 02 July 2008 15:26
 *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
 *Subject:* Re: [backstage] New Government APIs (plus win 20k to develop
 your mashup idea)

  Thank you very much Adam !  I will try to contact to FA or other premier
 league Co.  lets see if I can find a free source.

 I have been looking for a source, where I can read All football clubs and
 national teams and football score information via web services.  However, I
 could not find one yet.   I can use Wiki to get football players details but
 I need to a free source, where I can get football scores and league table
 info.  I cannot effort paying for this as the website is not commercial
 website.  it is just a football discussion sites, where all friends and
 football fan can have their talks.

 regards,

 Rafiq



  *From:* Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, July 02, 2008 3:14 PM
 *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
 *Subject:* Re: [backstage] New Government APIs (plus win 20k to develop
 your mashup idea)

 I doubt you have very little chance with the BBC as i think they
 republished information maintained by a third party who have very strict
 distribution rules.

 Your probably better trying to talk to the FA.  Alternativly there is the
 following message at the bottom of the fixture list, however its probably
 very expensive to purchase the rights.

 Copyright (c) and Database Right 2008[/9] The Football Association Premier
 League Ltd / The Football League Ltd / The Scottish Premier League Ltd / The
 Scottish Football League. All rights reserved. No part of this publication
 may be reproduced, stored in a retrieval system or transmitted in any way or
 by any means, (including photocopying, recording or storing it in any medium
 by electronic means), without the written permission of the
 copyright/database right owner. Applications for written permission should
 be addressed c/o Football DataCo Ltd, 30 Gloucester Place, London W1U 8PL.

 Rafiq Swash wrote:

 I am building a football discussion website.  I would like to use BBC API
 to retrieve football scores and also league tables.  Is there anyone who can
 give a little tip please.  thank you


 regards,

 Rafiq

  *From:* Adam Hatia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, July 02, 2008 2:25 PM
 *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
 *Subject:* RE: [backstage] New Government APIs (plus win 20k to develop
 your mashup idea)

  On the subject of open maps (or not so in the case of the OS), you might
 be interested in this project: http://openstreetmap.org/

 (the idea being to create open  free to use street map data)

   --

 *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 *On Behalf Of *Brian Butterworth
 *Sent:* 02 July 2008 12:02
 *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
 *Subject:* Re: [backstage]