Re: [backstage] Another week, another launch - OpenLab

2009-04-22 Thread ryan
  BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; }Can
I play with this please :)
 http://www.bbc.co.uk/learningdevelopment/projects_radio.shtml
 On Wed 22/04/09  4:02 PM , Ian Forrester ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk
sent:
 Hi All,
 We're launching a new project called OpenLab today.
 http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/openlab/
 Think about it as backstage for those in the education and learning
communities who want to use our stuff to educate others
 Its all coming from the same backstage values at the end of the day,
so we're looking for feedback which might help drive the site and
project forward.
 Cheers,
 Ian Forrester
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RE: [backstage] Iplayer the best video experience online?

2009-01-16 Thread ryan
  BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; }I
can't imagine it would be THAT difficult to put together a way of
finding the embed code - the question is whether it is allowed or
not.
 I knocked together a quick thing for myself with Top Gear video
clips when bbc.co.uk/topgear moved to flash video.
 It's a very simple thing and you can see it here - just click Get
Embed Code and it will take you to the list of clips.
 http://www.upyourego.com/topgear/a/expire.asp
 You could create a simple form where you put the programme code
click get code and it fills out a textarea box with the right code.
 In fact here is a quick and nasty one I've built for iPlayer
 http://www.upyourego.com/test/pip.asp
 But I don't know the exact ins and outs of iPlayer and I'm guessing
it could change at a moments notice and that doing that is probably
against the TCs of using iPlayer.
 On Fri 16/01/09 12:58 PM , Steve Bowbrick steve.bowbr...@bbc.co.uk
sent:
 Watchification.com uses the hacky way of embedding - when we first
started to embed (early 2008) various BBC folk told us it was just a
matter of time before it was officially allowed but it looks like
politics/rights issues etc. have held this up.
 What I think would be really exciting would be a site/service that
wraps the hacky method in a super-easy front-end allowing anyone to
do it just by selecting a programme from a list (or whatever)...
 Steve
 Andrew Bowden
 Fri, 16 Jan 2009 02:33:01 -0800
 
 There's a hacky way that's been published on the old internet
 http://jonathan.tweed.name/2007/12/hacking-the-iplayer-embedded-m
 
 But not a proper way.
 
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   So, to the point: any plans to allow embedding of iPlayer 
  content? Is 
   the service providing access to content, or driving traffic 
  to bbc.co.uk?
  
  Well someone's already doing it - http://watchification.com/ 
  - I'd always assumed it was legal! Or is this a special case?
  
   Oh, while I'm on a roll, any plans for a Wii/PS3-friendly 
  interface à 
   la Youtube for Television?
  
  iPlayer with Wii-specific UI has existed for ages - or am I 
  missing the point about Youtube for TV here?
  
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Re: [backstage] DOGs on the BBC TV online streams?

2009-01-14 Thread ryan
 If you ever find yourself watching BBC Channel Island news at 6.30pm
or 10.25 (I think Sky 988) you'll see the old BBC Spotlight Channel
Islands logo burned pretty deep into the studio plasma screen behind
the presenter.
 Not sure what I think about DOGs though - never really notice them
to be honest.
 On Wed 14/01/09 11:18 AM , Richard Lockwood
richard.lockw...@gmail.com sent:
 That's a pretty extreme form of tattooing - where'd you get it done?
 Cheers,
 Rich.
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  I've grown to love the BBC logo we've burned into our plasma.
 
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Re: [backstage] DOGs on the BBC TV online streams?

2009-01-14 Thread ryan
 
 lol yeah something like that
 There are no official viewing figures for Channel Islands but the
last survey the BBC did showed that 50% watched the BBC’s Spotlight
Channel Islands at 6.30pm compared to 40% who watched ITV’s Channel
report at 6.00pm.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/jersey/content/articles/2008/03/04/spotlight_figures_feature.shtml
 With a population area of approx: 130,000 (or 80 thousand homes)
thats about 40 thousand watching at 6.30.
 I think the idea will be to swap the one from the newsroom and put
it in the studio - who knows.
 Anyway - DOGs :)
 On Wed 14/01/09 12:17 PM , Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv
sent:
I guess it would cost the viewers about £1 each to get BBC CI a new
plasma... 

On 14 Jan 2009, 11:39 AM,   wrote:
 If you ever find yourself watching BBC Channel Island news at 6.30pm
or 10.25 (I think Sky 988) you'll see the old BBC Spotlight Channel
Islands logo burned pretty deep into the studio plasma screen behind
the presenter.
 Not sure what I think about DOGs though - never really notice them
to be honest.
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richard.lockw...@gmail.com [2] sent:
  That's a pretty extreme form of tattooing - where'd you get it
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RE: [backstage] Friday humour

2008-06-06 Thread jamie ryan-ainslie
 
 
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Re: [backstage] iPlayer download client for the Mac

2008-05-30 Thread Ryan Morrison
You say Didn't the Trust tell the BBC to produce download clients for other
platforms as soon as possible? But didn't the Trust also set the conditions
for DRM?

The point here isn't so much that someone has made a download client but has
made a download client that allows for the download of DRM free iPlayer files
- which is against the terms the BBC have agreed for the iPlayer (I think
that's right).

Whether you agree with that or not - it is simple fact.

And Jem isn't trying to censor the internet - just asking that you talk about
'getting around the DRM on iPlayer files' somewhere that isn't run by the BBC.

Seems fair to me.


Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Jeremy Stone wrote:
  Sorry fellas.
 
 The BBC supports Gender discrimination now?[1]
 
  Can we have this discussion somewhere else ?
 
 Why? Is this some kind of cover up?
 Didn't the Trust tell the BBC to produce download clients for other
 platforms as soon as possible? Wouldn't someone else building a client
 before you indicate that the BBC is not complying with the terms laid
 down by the Trust. Have you told the Trust you are not complying with
 their instructions? Is that not running the risk of being considered as
 fraud, maybe someone should ask the SFO to look at it!
 
  This makes life harder for the iPlayer team who will have to look again at
 what they're doing.
 
 You mean they will actually have to comply with the Trust's ruling that
 iPlayer be Platform Neutral, oh dear people have to do their job how
 tough for them.
 
  this makes life harder for the backstage team who want this list to carry
on
 as unmoderated.
 
 To quote John Gilmore The Net interprets censorship as damage and
 routes around it.[2]
 
 Maybe you should go ask all those other people who have tried to censor
 the internet how well it went.
 
 Andy
 
 [1]

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 [2] http://www.chemie.fu-berlin.de/outerspace/internet-article.html
 
 
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Re: [backstage] iPlayer download client for the Mac

2008-05-30 Thread Ryan Morrison
Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Trying to restrict discussion of certain topics isn't censorship? What
precisely do you call it then?

It's only censorship if they try to stop ALL discussion on a subject - as the
suggestion was that discussion be moved to somewhere else, not stopped
completely it isn't censorship - just housekeeping/moderation. 




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Re: [backstage] Ashley Highfield leaves BBC (almost)

2008-04-15 Thread Ryan Morrison
Wouldn't life be easier all around if the BBC just scrapped the download
version of iPlayer completely and had it exclusively streaming?

Streaming works across the board, uses less bandwidth and for the average user
is a lot easier to use - plus the VAST majority of people using iPlayer
already use the streaming version.

Then when Kangaroo launches it can offer the downloads as a pay per play or
pay to own service.

After all streaming is closer to 'television' and iPlayer is just a television
catch up service.

I'm sure I'll get hate mail for that but - oh well :)

Ryan Morrison
upyourego.com

Sean DALY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yes Nick, that reminded me of Toyota aiming for zero emissions,
 wonder if they'll hit it this year (joke).
 
 DRM on Mac means Fairplay, so the announcement really should be no
 download support for GNU/Linux actually planned or possible since our
 proprietary software DRM partners make mutually incompatible
 solutions, none of which work over GNU/Linux.
 
 Mr. Thompson's blog post was I felt well-reasoned and well written,
 although I wouldn't agree that the BBC should throw up its hands and
 give up just because its partners don't support standards. I also
 disagree with the assessment that is less expensive to go proprietary
 for 90% of the online viewership; I believe it would be far less
 expensive to go open-standards for 100% of the viewership. Of course,
 DRM messes up that scenario, which is why a non-DRM solution needs to
 be found, such as Dirac with watermarking in a branded player.
 
 He also didn't touch upon on the ISP/bandwidth/controlled P2P issue
 which is a major component of the Windows-only download client, over
 which he was questioned at that same HoC hearing. I wonder what the
 plan is in that department for Mac?
 
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Re: [backstage] Undermining iPlayer DRM

2008-03-07 Thread Ryan Morrison
I think you're underestimating the independence of BBC News - they're not just
independent of the Government - they're also independent of the BBC. If a
story is worth reporting or a product worthy of mention then it will get
mentioned regardless of what is happening elsewhere at the BBC.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 But how is the BBC protecting rights holders when it has online video
 instructions telling you how to record progs without any DRM protection.
 
 


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RE: [backstage] HD-DVD / Blu Ray

2008-02-21 Thread jamie ryan-ainslie


They've been equal in both formats so far - the 8th 'blu-ray' on that search is 
the HD Planet Earth.

Many more to follow I'm sure - Life in the Undergrowth is bound to be 
impressive in either.


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 Subject: Re: [backstage] HD-DVD / Blu Ray
 Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:56:26 +
 
 On Thursday 21 February 2008 13:41:21 Andy wrote:
  A more important question is will the BBC be providing it's programs
  on Blue-Ray or HD-DVD?
   
 BBC Shop has 8 titles as blu ray  7 as HD DVD.
 
 cf : http://www.bbcshop.com/ (search for Blu ray and HD respectively
 (note quotes round blu ray :) )
 
 
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