Re: [backstage] Another week, another launch - OpenLab
BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; }Can I play with this please :) http://www.bbc.co.uk/learningdevelopment/projects_radio.shtml On Wed 22/04/09 4:02 PM , Ian Forrester ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk sent: Hi All, We're launching a new project called OpenLab today. http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/openlab/ Think about it as backstage for those in the education and learning communities who want to use our stuff to educate others Its all coming from the same backstage values at the end of the day, so we're looking for feedback which might help drive the site and project forward. Cheers, Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [x] private; [] ask first; [] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage Room 1044, BBC Manchester BH, Oxford Road, M60 1SJ email: ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk [1] work: +44 (0)1612444063 mob: +44 (0)7711913293 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/ [2]backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [3]/ Links: -- [1] mailto:ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk [2] http://www.mail-archive.com/ [3] mailto:backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
RE: [backstage] Iplayer the best video experience online?
BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; }I can't imagine it would be THAT difficult to put together a way of finding the embed code - the question is whether it is allowed or not. I knocked together a quick thing for myself with Top Gear video clips when bbc.co.uk/topgear moved to flash video. It's a very simple thing and you can see it here - just click Get Embed Code and it will take you to the list of clips. http://www.upyourego.com/topgear/a/expire.asp You could create a simple form where you put the programme code click get code and it fills out a textarea box with the right code. In fact here is a quick and nasty one I've built for iPlayer http://www.upyourego.com/test/pip.asp But I don't know the exact ins and outs of iPlayer and I'm guessing it could change at a moments notice and that doing that is probably against the TCs of using iPlayer. On Fri 16/01/09 12:58 PM , Steve Bowbrick steve.bowbr...@bbc.co.uk sent: Watchification.com uses the hacky way of embedding - when we first started to embed (early 2008) various BBC folk told us it was just a matter of time before it was officially allowed but it looks like politics/rights issues etc. have held this up. What I think would be really exciting would be a site/service that wraps the hacky method in a super-easy front-end allowing anyone to do it just by selecting a programme from a list (or whatever)... Steve Andrew Bowden Fri, 16 Jan 2009 02:33:01 -0800 There's a hacky way that's been published on the old internet http://jonathan.tweed.name/2007/12/hacking-the-iplayer-embedded-m But not a proper way. -Original Message- From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [1] [owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [2]] On Behalf Of Martin Poppy Hatfield Sent: 16 January 2009 09:57 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk [3] Subject: Re: [backstage] Iplayer the best video experience online? So, to the point: any plans to allow embedding of iPlayer content? Is the service providing access to content, or driving traffic to bbc.co.uk? Well someone's already doing it - http://watchification.com/ - I'd always assumed it was legal! Or is this a special case? Oh, while I'm on a roll, any plans for a Wii/PS3-friendly interface à la Youtube for Television? iPlayer with Wii-specific UI has existed for ages - or am I missing the point about Youtube for TV here? MCH - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk [4]/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk [5]/ -- Openness at the BBC: http://commonplatform.co.uk st...@bowbrick.com [6] 07768 257 570 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/ [7]backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [8]/ Links: -- [1] mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [2] mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [3] mailto:backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk [4] mailto:backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk [5] mailto:backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk [6] mailto:st...@bowbrick.com [7] http://www.mail-archive.com/ [8] mailto:backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Re: [backstage] DOGs on the BBC TV online streams?
If you ever find yourself watching BBC Channel Island news at 6.30pm or 10.25 (I think Sky 988) you'll see the old BBC Spotlight Channel Islands logo burned pretty deep into the studio plasma screen behind the presenter. Not sure what I think about DOGs though - never really notice them to be honest. On Wed 14/01/09 11:18 AM , Richard Lockwood richard.lockw...@gmail.com sent: That's a pretty extreme form of tattooing - where'd you get it done? Cheers, Rich. On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 12:23 AM, Jim Tonge wrote: I've grown to love the BBC logo we've burned into our plasma. jim - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/ [2]backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [3]/ Links: -- [1] mailto:jim_d_to...@yahoo.co.uk [2] http://www.mail-archive.com/ [3] mailto:backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Re: [backstage] DOGs on the BBC TV online streams?
lol yeah something like that There are no official viewing figures for Channel Islands but the last survey the BBC did showed that 50% watched the BBC’s Spotlight Channel Islands at 6.30pm compared to 40% who watched ITV’s Channel report at 6.00pm. http://www.bbc.co.uk/jersey/content/articles/2008/03/04/spotlight_figures_feature.shtml With a population area of approx: 130,000 (or 80 thousand homes) thats about 40 thousand watching at 6.30. I think the idea will be to swap the one from the newsroom and put it in the studio - who knows. Anyway - DOGs :) On Wed 14/01/09 12:17 PM , Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv sent: I guess it would cost the viewers about £1 each to get BBC CI a new plasma... On 14 Jan 2009, 11:39 AM, wrote: If you ever find yourself watching BBC Channel Island news at 6.30pm or 10.25 (I think Sky 988) you'll see the old BBC Spotlight Channel Islands logo burned pretty deep into the studio plasma screen behind the presenter. Not sure what I think about DOGs though - never really notice them to be honest. On Wed 14/01/09 11:18 AM , Richard Lockwood richard.lockw...@gmail.com [2] sent: That's a pretty extreme form of tattooing - where'd you get it done? Cheers, Rich. ... Links: -- [1] mailto:r...@upyourego.com [2] mailto:richard.lockw...@gmail.com
RE: [backstage] Friday humour
Do you know what E.T. is short for? he's got short legs From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] Friday humour Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 16:57:21 +0100 A man walking down the street noticed a small boy trying to reach the doorbell of a house. Even when he jumped up, he couldn't quite reach it .The man decided to help the boy, walked up on to the porch and pushed the doorbell. He looked down at the boy, smiled and asked, What now? The boy answered, Now we run like crazy! Gavin Pearce | Junior Web Developer | TBS The Columbia Centre, Market Street, Bracknell, RG12 1JG, United Kingdom Direct: +44 (0) 1344 403488 | Office: +44 (0) 1344 306011 | Fax: +44 (0) 1344 427138 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Yahoo: pearce.gavin | Skype: tbs.gavin www.tbs.uk.com http://www.tbs.uk.com/ TBS is a trading name of Technology Services International Limited. Registered in England, company number 2079459. -Original Message- From: Ian Forrester [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 June 2008 16:41 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] Friday humour Some of these jokes are terrible! :) Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [x] private; [] ask first; [] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage Room 1044, BBC Manchester BH, Oxford Road, M60 1SJ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] work: +44 (0)2080083965 mob: +44 (0)7711913293 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sean DALY Sent: 06 June 2008 11:33 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Friday humour A skeleton walks into a bar. He says, I'll have a pint... and a mop - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ This message has been scanned for viruses by Viatel MailControl - http://viatel.mailcontrol.com/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ _ Great deals on almost anything at eBay.co.uk. Search, bid, find and win on eBay today! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl001004ukm/direct/01/
Re: [backstage] iPlayer download client for the Mac
You say Didn't the Trust tell the BBC to produce download clients for other platforms as soon as possible? But didn't the Trust also set the conditions for DRM? The point here isn't so much that someone has made a download client but has made a download client that allows for the download of DRM free iPlayer files - which is against the terms the BBC have agreed for the iPlayer (I think that's right). Whether you agree with that or not - it is simple fact. And Jem isn't trying to censor the internet - just asking that you talk about 'getting around the DRM on iPlayer files' somewhere that isn't run by the BBC. Seems fair to me. Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeremy Stone wrote: Sorry fellas. The BBC supports Gender discrimination now?[1] Can we have this discussion somewhere else ? Why? Is this some kind of cover up? Didn't the Trust tell the BBC to produce download clients for other platforms as soon as possible? Wouldn't someone else building a client before you indicate that the BBC is not complying with the terms laid down by the Trust. Have you told the Trust you are not complying with their instructions? Is that not running the risk of being considered as fraud, maybe someone should ask the SFO to look at it! This makes life harder for the iPlayer team who will have to look again at what they're doing. You mean they will actually have to comply with the Trust's ruling that iPlayer be Platform Neutral, oh dear people have to do their job how tough for them. this makes life harder for the backstage team who want this list to carry on as unmoderated. To quote John Gilmore The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it.[2] Maybe you should go ask all those other people who have tried to censor the internet how well it went. Andy [1] http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?c=1sub=Changeo2=o0=o7=o5=o1=o6=o4=o3=i=-1h=0s=fella [2] http://www.chemie.fu-berlin.de/outerspace/internet-article.html - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] iPlayer download client for the Mac
Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trying to restrict discussion of certain topics isn't censorship? What precisely do you call it then? It's only censorship if they try to stop ALL discussion on a subject - as the suggestion was that discussion be moved to somewhere else, not stopped completely it isn't censorship - just housekeeping/moderation. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Ashley Highfield leaves BBC (almost)
Wouldn't life be easier all around if the BBC just scrapped the download version of iPlayer completely and had it exclusively streaming? Streaming works across the board, uses less bandwidth and for the average user is a lot easier to use - plus the VAST majority of people using iPlayer already use the streaming version. Then when Kangaroo launches it can offer the downloads as a pay per play or pay to own service. After all streaming is closer to 'television' and iPlayer is just a television catch up service. I'm sure I'll get hate mail for that but - oh well :) Ryan Morrison upyourego.com Sean DALY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes Nick, that reminded me of Toyota aiming for zero emissions, wonder if they'll hit it this year (joke). DRM on Mac means Fairplay, so the announcement really should be no download support for GNU/Linux actually planned or possible since our proprietary software DRM partners make mutually incompatible solutions, none of which work over GNU/Linux. Mr. Thompson's blog post was I felt well-reasoned and well written, although I wouldn't agree that the BBC should throw up its hands and give up just because its partners don't support standards. I also disagree with the assessment that is less expensive to go proprietary for 90% of the online viewership; I believe it would be far less expensive to go open-standards for 100% of the viewership. Of course, DRM messes up that scenario, which is why a non-DRM solution needs to be found, such as Dirac with watermarking in a branded player. He also didn't touch upon on the ISP/bandwidth/controlled P2P issue which is a major component of the Windows-only download client, over which he was questioned at that same HoC hearing. I wonder what the plan is in that department for Mac? Sean. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Undermining iPlayer DRM
I think you're underestimating the independence of BBC News - they're not just independent of the Government - they're also independent of the BBC. If a story is worth reporting or a product worthy of mention then it will get mentioned regardless of what is happening elsewhere at the BBC. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But how is the BBC protecting rights holders when it has online video instructions telling you how to record progs without any DRM protection. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] HD-DVD / Blu Ray
They've been equal in both formats so far - the 8th 'blu-ray' on that search is the HD Planet Earth. Many more to follow I'm sure - Life in the Undergrowth is bound to be impressive in either. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] HD-DVD / Blu Ray Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:56:26 + On Thursday 21 February 2008 13:41:21 Andy wrote: A more important question is will the BBC be providing it's programs on Blue-Ray or HD-DVD? BBC Shop has 8 titles as blu ray 7 as HD DVD. cf : http://www.bbcshop.com/ (search for Blu ray and HD respectively (note quotes round blu ray :) ) Michael. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ _ Get Hotmail on your mobile, text MSN to 63463! http://mobile.uk.msn.com/pc/mail.aspx