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hello! the lovely backstage list may be delighted, bored or indifferent to know i have just published some old media (ie a book), one of the stories in it was inspired by Matt Locke's post a ways back about wifi blocking paint, in the banter about underground mobile phones. good stuff! the book is the result of an exhibition which featured VERY old media (lomographic photographs) framed alongside stories inspired by the pictures. but that particular story was inspired by the wifi paint idea and i found a picture to go with it. anyway gotta send a copy to matt and ian and maybe the first TWO PEOPLE to claim here so email me your address. or rss feed it straight into my analogue telly here in hong kong. you guys can do that by now right? love from the new york of china james ps i'm kidding, the aerial's knackered, send an email. On 07/06/07, Sean Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jason Cartwright wrote: Apparently TFL are trialling mobiles on the tube next year... http://www.tfl.gov.uk/modalpages/4577.aspx And aircon as well :-) http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601102sid=acUFU0IpxGDc Seán - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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Jason Cartwright wrote: Apparently TFL are trialling mobiles on the tube next year... http://www.tfl.gov.uk/modalpages/4577.aspx And aircon as well :-) http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601102sid=acUFU0IpxGDc Seán - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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Would a portable device/wearable device which blocked/scrambled GSM/Wireless/3-G frequencies within a 2 metre radius be illegal? I imagine it would be easier to make than blocking the sound -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Simon Cobb Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 10:19 AM To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] DO NOT USE THIS COMPANY well that's just great. That was the last place on my commute where I was safe from azzholes in cheap suits shouting about formulating an email to fire off to the usual suspects and Dibs, you old [EMAIL PROTECTED] - how's it going? I pulled in 20k this week etc Shame it won't be limited to email/ web connex from wireless devices. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Cartwright Sent: 03 May 2007 09:58 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] DO NOT USE THIS COMPANY Apparently TFL are trialling mobiles on the tube next year... http://www.tfl.gov.uk/modalpages/4577.aspx They are also talking about repeating DAB down the tunnels as well, which is interesting. J -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Ockenden Sent: 02 May 2007 18:04 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] DO NOT USE THIS COMPANY i see your problems and raise you life in hong kong, where i picked up a phone for HK$300 in the 3-shop, no contract, and after two months of local and international calls had a gentle SMS reminder I should pop into the shop and pay my bill of HK$29.50. that's about £2. AND the phones work on the MTR/underground. funny though there's no public toilets on the MTR here, and the corp is saying it's technically impossible blah blah blah just like London says its impossible to put in aircon and phone signals blah blah.. maybe a technology swap is in order. London gives us its toilet technology and we give London aircon and mobile phones on the tube! On 03/05/07, Christopher Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These horror stories remind me of the companies who either accost you in the street or cold-call your mobile promising cut-price tariffs, but who don't actually work for the companies they sell contracts for - it all seems very shady stuff to me, even if they are legit. Those 6 month free deals where you send in your previous bills to get credit are all very dodgy too, even if people (including some of my coursemates) do it - I don't like the idea of handing over bills containing personal details to some random company I don't even know much about. What protection do you have? Why even bother with third party mobile companies when you can get pretty good deals through their retail outlets? I got a brand new smartphone for not a lot (less than I'd paid the previous year for an older smartphone with O2), and a great deal on a contract with unlimited data, and that was with T-Mobile retail (and I've not seen a better deal online yet)... I know these emails are a bit OT, but does anybody have a recommendation or list of reputable third-party mobile companies through which you can buy contracts which are cheaper than going direct to retail? Reply off-list if you have info but don't want to add another message to the thread (though I don't think many people would mind personally). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 May 2007 16:34 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] DO NOT USE THIS COMPANY Quoting Timothy-john Bishop [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi I just been ripped off! Tried to get a new mobile and used this company - they charged a non-refundable £199.00 to my credit card - even though their webiste says its 1.99 - after a week of phoning them they are refusing to give it back! they are called mobilerainbow.co.uk DO NOT USE THEM! I would suggest calling your credit card company and initiating a charge-back for a dispute. Give them all the details, and in my experience they side with you and give the money back. I'm not sure of the equivilent for a debut card transaction. I see your mobilerainbow.co.uk, and raise you; http://www.themobileoutlet.co.uk I spoke to them over a week ago, and ordered a phone. They said its in stock, and can be delivered in 2-3 days. Now they are saying that they are waiting for a delivery and have no idea when I can get it. Also they want to charge £20 to cancel the order, and they are not answering the customer services numbers, nor answwering emails. When I finally get through, they said they would ring back, and then they would email. But nothing. Tom
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They are indeed illegal, didn't stop Kevin Rose from making one on his (now-defunct) podcast show. They're illegal in the US too :D I for one will be looking forward to repeaters on the tube - though I don't live in London whenever I am in London I always feel like the Tube's a bit of a black spot when it comes to comms. Emergency comms, in particular. It makes sense to have signal on the underground, particularly given the recent past. -Original Message- From: Mark Hewis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 May 2007 10:44 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] DO NOT USE THIS COMPANY Would a portable device/wearable device which blocked/scrambled GSM/Wireless/3-G frequencies within a 2 metre radius be illegal? I imagine it would be easier to make than blocking the sound -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Simon Cobb Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 10:19 AM To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] DO NOT USE THIS COMPANY well that's just great. That was the last place on my commute where I was safe from azzholes in cheap suits shouting about formulating an email to fire off to the usual suspects and Dibs, you old [EMAIL PROTECTED] - how's it going? I pulled in 20k this week etc Shame it won't be limited to email/ web connex from wireless devices. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Cartwright Sent: 03 May 2007 09:58 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] DO NOT USE THIS COMPANY Apparently TFL are trialling mobiles on the tube next year... http://www.tfl.gov.uk/modalpages/4577.aspx They are also talking about repeating DAB down the tunnels as well, which is interesting. J -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Ockenden Sent: 02 May 2007 18:04 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] DO NOT USE THIS COMPANY i see your problems and raise you life in hong kong, where i picked up a phone for HK$300 in the 3-shop, no contract, and after two months of local and international calls had a gentle SMS reminder I should pop into the shop and pay my bill of HK$29.50. that's about £2. AND the phones work on the MTR/underground. funny though there's no public toilets on the MTR here, and the corp is saying it's technically impossible blah blah blah just like London says its impossible to put in aircon and phone signals blah blah.. maybe a technology swap is in order. London gives us its toilet technology and we give London aircon and mobile phones on the tube! On 03/05/07, Christopher Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These horror stories remind me of the companies who either accost you in the street or cold-call your mobile promising cut-price tariffs, but who don't actually work for the companies they sell contracts for - it all seems very shady stuff to me, even if they are legit. Those 6 month free deals where you send in your previous bills to get credit are all very dodgy too, even if people (including some of my coursemates) do it - I don't like the idea of handing over bills containing personal details to some random company I don't even know much about. What protection do you have? Why even bother with third party mobile companies when you can get pretty good deals through their retail outlets? I got a brand new smartphone for not a lot (less than I'd paid the previous year for an older smartphone with O2), and a great deal on a contract with unlimited data, and that was with T-Mobile retail (and I've not seen a better deal online yet)... I know these emails are a bit OT, but does anybody have a recommendation or list of reputable third-party mobile companies through which you can buy contracts which are cheaper than going direct to retail? Reply off-list if you have info but don't want to add another message to the thread (though I don't think many people would mind personally). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 May 2007 16:34 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] DO NOT USE THIS COMPANY Quoting Timothy-john Bishop [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi I just been ripped off! Tried to get a new mobile and used this company - they charged a non-refundable £199.00 to my credit card - even though their webiste says its 1.99 - after a week of phoning them they are refusing to give it back! they are called mobilerainbow.co.uk DO NOT USE THEM! I would suggest calling your credit card company and initiating a charge-back for a dispute
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Mark Hewis wrote: Would a portable device/wearable device which blocked/scrambled GSM/Wireless/3-G frequencies within a 2 metre radius be illegal? Yep, that's illegal. It falls under the same category of 'illegal' as pirate radio - using an unlicensed transmitter, which is outlawed by the 1949 Wireless Telegraphy Act. From OFCOM: The use of equipment to jam mobile phones (or any other radio signals) is illegal - regardless as to the location where they are used. A mobile phone jammer is a transmitter and therefore a licence is required to use one. ( http://www.ofcom.org.uk/radiocomms/ifi/enforcement/rtandthelaw ) -- Tom - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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Unfortunately it would be. Although Ofcom have relaxed their regulations making some radio transmitters exempt from licencing, this only covers the following bands... CB Micro FM transmitters Short-range radar Dave Curtis | Lead Creative Developer BBC jam | Room 3432 | White City | 201 Wood Lane | London | W12 7TS T: +44 (0)20 8752 4996 *: dave,[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Hewis Sent: 03 May 2007 10:44 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] DO NOT USE THIS COMPANY Would a portable device/wearable device which blocked/scrambled GSM/Wireless/3-G frequencies within a 2 metre radius be illegal? I imagine it would be easier to make than blocking the sound -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Simon Cobb Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 10:19 AM To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] DO NOT USE THIS COMPANY well that's just great. That was the last place on my commute where I was safe from azzholes in cheap suits shouting about formulating an email to fire off to the usual suspects and Dibs, you old [EMAIL PROTECTED] - how's it going? I pulled in 20k this week etc Shame it won't be limited to email/ web connex from wireless devices. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Cartwright Sent: 03 May 2007 09:58 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] DO NOT USE THIS COMPANY Apparently TFL are trialling mobiles on the tube next year... http://www.tfl.gov.uk/modalpages/4577.aspx They are also talking about repeating DAB down the tunnels as well, which is interesting. J -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Ockenden Sent: 02 May 2007 18:04 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] DO NOT USE THIS COMPANY i see your problems and raise you life in hong kong, where i picked up a phone for HK$300 in the 3-shop, no contract, and after two months of local and international calls had a gentle SMS reminder I should pop into the shop and pay my bill of HK$29.50. that's about £2. AND the phones work on the MTR/underground. funny though there's no public toilets on the MTR here, and the corp is saying it's technically impossible blah blah blah just like London says its impossible to put in aircon and phone signals blah blah.. maybe a technology swap is in order. London gives us its toilet technology and we give London aircon and mobile phones on the tube! On 03/05/07, Christopher Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These horror stories remind me of the companies who either accost you in the street or cold-call your mobile promising cut-price tariffs, but who don't actually work for the companies they sell contracts for - it all seems very shady stuff to me, even if they are legit. Those 6 month free deals where you send in your previous bills to get credit are all very dodgy too, even if people (including some of my coursemates) do it - I don't like the idea of handing over bills containing personal details to some random company I don't even know much about. What protection do you have? Why even bother with third party mobile companies when you can get pretty good deals through their retail outlets? I got a brand new smartphone for not a lot (less than I'd paid the previous year for an older smartphone with O2), and a great deal on a contract with unlimited data, and that was with T-Mobile retail (and I've not seen a better deal online yet)... I know these emails are a bit OT, but does anybody have a recommendation or list of reputable third-party mobile companies through which you can buy contracts which are cheaper than going direct to retail? Reply off-list if you have info but don't want to add another message to the thread (though I don't think many people would mind personally). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 May 2007 16:34 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] DO NOT USE THIS COMPANY Quoting Timothy-john Bishop [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi I just been ripped off! Tried to get a new mobile and used this company - they charged a non-refundable £199.00 to my credit card - even though their webiste says its 1.99 - after a week of phoning them they are refusing to give it back! they are called mobilerainbow.co.uk DO NOT USE THEM! I would suggest calling your credit card company and initiating a charge-back for a dispute. Give them all the details, and in my experience they side with you and give the money back. I'm not sure of the equivilent for a debut card transaction. I see your
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What, like in Mission Impossible? I know French theatres have installed devices to block mobiles: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/film/3735936.stm but this looks more interesting - a paint that can block wi-fi and wireless signals. Maybe there could be a new form of grafitti, with people painting the tube trains in order to stop people using their mobiles? http://www.govtech.net/digitalcommunities/story.php?id=104583 heh. Matt Locke Commissioning Editor, Channel 4 Education +44 20 7306 6043 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.channel4.com 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Hewis Sent: 03 May 2007 10:44 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] DO NOT USE THIS COMPANY Would a portable device/wearable device which blocked/scrambled GSM/Wireless/3-G frequencies within a 2 metre radius be illegal? I imagine it would be easier to make than blocking the sound -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Simon Cobb Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 10:19 AM To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] DO NOT USE THIS COMPANY well that's just great. That was the last place on my commute where I was safe from azzholes in cheap suits shouting about formulating an email to fire off to the usual suspects and Dibs, you old [EMAIL PROTECTED] - how's it going? I pulled in 20k this week etc Shame it won't be limited to email/ web connex from wireless devices. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Cartwright Sent: 03 May 2007 09:58 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] DO NOT USE THIS COMPANY Apparently TFL are trialling mobiles on the tube next year... http://www.tfl.gov.uk/modalpages/4577.aspx They are also talking about repeating DAB down the tunnels as well, which is interesting. J -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Ockenden Sent: 02 May 2007 18:04 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] DO NOT USE THIS COMPANY i see your problems and raise you life in hong kong, where i picked up a phone for HK$300 in the 3-shop, no contract, and after two months of local and international calls had a gentle SMS reminder I should pop into the shop and pay my bill of HK$29.50. that's about £2. AND the phones work on the MTR/underground. funny though there's no public toilets on the MTR here, and the corp is saying it's technically impossible blah blah blah just like London says its impossible to put in aircon and phone signals blah blah.. maybe a technology swap is in order. London gives us its toilet technology and we give London aircon and mobile phones on the tube! On 03/05/07, Christopher Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These horror stories remind me of the companies who either accost you in the street or cold-call your mobile promising cut-price tariffs, but who don't actually work for the companies they sell contracts for - it all seems very shady stuff to me, even if they are legit. Those 6 month free deals where you send in your previous bills to get credit are all very dodgy too, even if people (including some of my coursemates) do it - I don't like the idea of handing over bills containing personal details to some random company I don't even know much about. What protection do you have? Why even bother with third party mobile companies when you can get pretty good deals through their retail outlets? I got a brand new smartphone for not a lot (less than I'd paid the previous year for an older smartphone with O2), and a great deal on a contract with unlimited data, and that was with T-Mobile retail (and I've not seen a better deal online yet)... I know these emails are a bit OT, but does anybody have a recommendation or list of reputable third-party mobile companies through which you can buy contracts which are cheaper than going direct to retail? Reply off-list if you have info but don't want to add another message to the thread (though I don't think many people would mind personally). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 May 2007 16:34 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] DO NOT USE THIS COMPANY Quoting Timothy-john Bishop [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi I just been ripped off! Tried to get a new mobile and used this company - they charged a non-refundable £199.00 to my credit card - even though their webiste says its 1.99 - after a week of phoning them they are refusing to give it back! they are called mobilerainbow.co.uk DO NOT USE THEM! I
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Or thinging about it backwards - surreptitious painting of mobiles! On 5/3/07, Matt Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but this looks more interesting - a paint that can block wi-fi and wireless signals. Maybe there could be a new form of grafitti, with people painting the tube trains in order to stop people using their mobiles?
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backstage is getting a little subversive in this thread! this is dangerous, all you talented media technology types suddenly becoming evil :-) maybe you need a hackstage splinter guerilla group? although seriously, mobile on the tube would boost mobile application X% in London, so what does backstage think it should do with all that? vibrating alerts when you reach a pre-set station would be useful for those of us who like to snooze on the train... but i'm sure the list can come up with something more media than that! how about another competition Mr F? james ps and OT: this whole w***r on the mobile doesn't really apply in hong kong cos ppl are generally very considerate with their mobiles, often talking behind their hands and usually very quietly. the loud irritating ones are the westeners (about 1/20-40 passengers) but i quite enjoy hearing what depths people will go to to try and impress their fellow passengers. i mean really, you've got to laugh at these people, no? did dom joly's excellent work not sink in?? perhaps the beeb needs to do a re-run. massive phone on the tube blocking the doors.. HELLO! YEAH I'M ON THE TUBE! YEAH, ITS NOT MOVING, DUNNO WHY. On 03/05/07, oliver wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or thinging about it backwards - surreptitious painting of mobiles! On 5/3/07, Matt Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but this looks more interesting - a paint that can block wi-fi and wireless signals. Maybe there could be a new form of grafitti, with people painting the tube trains in order to stop people using their mobiles? - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] DO NOT USE THIS COMPANY
Hi I just been ripped off! Tried to get a new mobile and used this company - they charged a non-refundable £199.00 to my credit card - even though their webiste says its 1.99 - after a week of phoning them they are refusing to give it back! they are called mobilerainbow.co.uk DO NOT USE THEM! Please forward, the more people that know about these scammers the better! -- This email is intended for the named recipient(s) only. Its contents are confidential and may only be retained by the named recipient(s) and may only be copied or disclosed with the prior consent of Timothy-John Bishop. If you are not the intended recipient please discard this email and notify the sender as quickly as possible. This email and any attached files have been scanned for the presence of computer viruses. However, you are advised that you open any attachments at your own risk. Please note that electronic mail may be monitored in accordance with the Telecommunications (Lawful Business Practices) (Interception of Communications) Regulations 2000.
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Quoting Timothy-john Bishop [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi I just been ripped off! Tried to get a new mobile and used this company - they charged a non-refundable £199.00 to my credit card - even though their webiste says its 1.99 - after a week of phoning them they are refusing to give it back! they are called mobilerainbow.co.uk DO NOT USE THEM! I would suggest calling your credit card company and initiating a charge-back for a dispute. Give them all the details, and in my experience they side with you and give the money back. I'm not sure of the equivilent for a debut card transaction. I see your mobilerainbow.co.uk, and raise you; http://www.themobileoutlet.co.uk I spoke to them over a week ago, and ordered a phone. They said its in stock, and can be delivered in 2-3 days. Now they are saying that they are waiting for a delivery and have no idea when I can get it. Also they want to charge £20 to cancel the order, and they are not answering the customer services numbers, nor answwering emails. When I finally get through, they said they would ring back, and then they would email. But nothing. Tom This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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These horror stories remind me of the companies who either accost you in the street or cold-call your mobile promising cut-price tariffs, but who don't actually work for the companies they sell contracts for - it all seems very shady stuff to me, even if they are legit. Those 6 month free deals where you send in your previous bills to get credit are all very dodgy too, even if people (including some of my coursemates) do it - I don't like the idea of handing over bills containing personal details to some random company I don't even know much about. What protection do you have? Why even bother with third party mobile companies when you can get pretty good deals through their retail outlets? I got a brand new smartphone for not a lot (less than I'd paid the previous year for an older smartphone with O2), and a great deal on a contract with unlimited data, and that was with T-Mobile retail (and I've not seen a better deal online yet)... I know these emails are a bit OT, but does anybody have a recommendation or list of reputable third-party mobile companies through which you can buy contracts which are cheaper than going direct to retail? Reply off-list if you have info but don't want to add another message to the thread (though I don't think many people would mind personally). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 May 2007 16:34 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] DO NOT USE THIS COMPANY Quoting Timothy-john Bishop [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi I just been ripped off! Tried to get a new mobile and used this company - they charged a non-refundable £199.00 to my credit card - even though their webiste says its 1.99 - after a week of phoning them they are refusing to give it back! they are called mobilerainbow.co.uk DO NOT USE THEM! I would suggest calling your credit card company and initiating a charge-back for a dispute. Give them all the details, and in my experience they side with you and give the money back. I'm not sure of the equivilent for a debut card transaction. I see your mobilerainbow.co.uk, and raise you; http://www.themobileoutlet.co.uk I spoke to them over a week ago, and ordered a phone. They said its in stock, and can be delivered in 2-3 days. Now they are saying that they are waiting for a delivery and have no idea when I can get it. Also they want to charge £20 to cancel the order, and they are not answering the customer services numbers, nor answwering emails. When I finally get through, they said they would ring back, and then they would email. But nothing. Tom This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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Perhaps we could get all this info in some kind of digestible feed.. That way it would make more sense on this list ;-) m On 2/5/07 17:38, Christopher Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These horror stories remind me of the companies who either accost you in the street or cold-call your mobile promising cut-price tariffs, but who don't actually work for the companies they sell contracts for - it all seems very shady stuff to me, even if they are legit. Those 6 month free deals where you send in your previous bills to get credit are all very dodgy too, even if people (including some of my coursemates) do it - I don't like the idea of handing over bills containing personal details to some random company I don't even know much about. What protection do you have? Why even bother with third party mobile companies when you can get pretty good deals through their retail outlets? I got a brand new smartphone for not a lot (less than I'd paid the previous year for an older smartphone with O2), and a great deal on a contract with unlimited data, and that was with T-Mobile retail (and I've not seen a better deal online yet)... I know these emails are a bit OT, but does anybody have a recommendation or list of reputable third-party mobile companies through which you can buy contracts which are cheaper than going direct to retail? Reply off-list if you have info but don't want to add another message to the thread (though I don't think many people would mind personally). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 May 2007 16:34 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] DO NOT USE THIS COMPANY Quoting Timothy-john Bishop [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi I just been ripped off! Tried to get a new mobile and used this company - they charged a non-refundable £199.00 to my credit card - even though their webiste says its 1.99 - after a week of phoning them they are refusing to give it back! they are called mobilerainbow.co.uk DO NOT USE THEM! I would suggest calling your credit card company and initiating a charge-back for a dispute. Give them all the details, and in my experience they side with you and give the money back. I'm not sure of the equivilent for a debut card transaction. I see your mobilerainbow.co.uk, and raise you; http://www.themobileoutlet.co.uk I spoke to them over a week ago, and ordered a phone. They said its in stock, and can be delivered in 2-3 days. Now they are saying that they are waiting for a delivery and have no idea when I can get it. Also they want to charge £20 to cancel the order, and they are not answering the customer services numbers, nor answwering emails. When I finally get through, they said they would ring back, and then they would email. But nothing. Tom This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ ___ Matthew Cashmore Development Producer BBC Future Media Technology, Research and Innovation BC4B5, Broadcast Centre, Media Village, W12 7TP T:020 8008 3959(02 83959) M:07711 913241(072 83959) - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] DO NOT USE THIS COMPANY
i see your problems and raise you life in hong kong, where i picked up a phone for HK$300 in the 3-shop, no contract, and after two months of local and international calls had a gentle SMS reminder I should pop into the shop and pay my bill of HK$29.50. that's about £2. AND the phones work on the MTR/underground. funny though there's no public toilets on the MTR here, and the corp is saying it's technically impossible blah blah blah just like London says its impossible to put in aircon and phone signals blah blah.. maybe a technology swap is in order. London gives us its toilet technology and we give London aircon and mobile phones on the tube! On 03/05/07, Christopher Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These horror stories remind me of the companies who either accost you in the street or cold-call your mobile promising cut-price tariffs, but who don't actually work for the companies they sell contracts for - it all seems very shady stuff to me, even if they are legit. Those 6 month free deals where you send in your previous bills to get credit are all very dodgy too, even if people (including some of my coursemates) do it - I don't like the idea of handing over bills containing personal details to some random company I don't even know much about. What protection do you have? Why even bother with third party mobile companies when you can get pretty good deals through their retail outlets? I got a brand new smartphone for not a lot (less than I'd paid the previous year for an older smartphone with O2), and a great deal on a contract with unlimited data, and that was with T-Mobile retail (and I've not seen a better deal online yet)... I know these emails are a bit OT, but does anybody have a recommendation or list of reputable third-party mobile companies through which you can buy contracts which are cheaper than going direct to retail? Reply off-list if you have info but don't want to add another message to the thread (though I don't think many people would mind personally). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 May 2007 16:34 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] DO NOT USE THIS COMPANY Quoting Timothy-john Bishop [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi I just been ripped off! Tried to get a new mobile and used this company - they charged a non-refundable £199.00 to my credit card - even though their webiste says its 1.99 - after a week of phoning them they are refusing to give it back! they are called mobilerainbow.co.uk DO NOT USE THEM! I would suggest calling your credit card company and initiating a charge-back for a dispute. Give them all the details, and in my experience they side with you and give the money back. I'm not sure of the equivilent for a debut card transaction. I see your mobilerainbow.co.uk, and raise you; http://www.themobileoutlet.co.uk I spoke to them over a week ago, and ordered a phone. They said its in stock, and can be delivered in 2-3 days. Now they are saying that they are waiting for a delivery and have no idea when I can get it. Also they want to charge £20 to cancel the order, and they are not answering the customer services numbers, nor answwering emails. When I finally get through, they said they would ring back, and then they would email. But nothing. Tom This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
