RE: [backstage] Film Reviews
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Cridland Sent: 03 June 2008 19:00 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Film Reviews I have forwarded this good idea on. I've also commented that associated RSS feeds should return a 404 for sites we no longer maintain. 410 Gone would be more informative? -- Kevin Hinde Head of Delivery Assurance, Journalism BBC Future Media Technology BC3 C1, Broadcast Centre t: 020 800 84725 (02 84725) m: 0771 501 2424 (072 84725) aim:kwdhinde - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Film Reviews
Just a quick idea. How about a page on bbc.co.uk noting sections that have closed? I think that is called the 'Press Release' after the govmt/DCMS/Ofcom/BBC Trust/Uncle Tom Cobbly review of the BBC website that seems to have to be carried out out every 18 months... - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Film Reviews
I have forwarded this good idea on. I've also commented that associated RSS feeds should return a 404 for sites we no longer maintain. On 30 May 2008, at 08:22, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a quick idea. How about a page on bbc.co.uk noting sections that have closed? 2008/5/29 Andrew Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I see the film reviews are nolonger being updated on the BBC site. Does anyone know why and will this mean that the film reviews xml feeds will no longer be updated. The Movies site (and it's associated section on BBCi) formally closed on 6 May 2008 - they've left the archive online, however there won't be any new reviews. As such, the feeds won't get updated. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html . Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002
Re: [backstage] Film Reviews
Just a quick idea. How about a page on bbc.co.uk noting sections that have closed? 2008/5/29 Andrew Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I see the film reviews are nolonger being updated on the BBC site. Does anyone know why and will this mean that the film reviews xml feeds will no longer be updated. The Movies site (and it's associated section on BBCi) formally closed on 6 May 2008 - they've left the archive online, however there won't be any new reviews. As such, the feeds won't get updated. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002
[backstage] Film Reviews
Hi, I see the film reviews are nolonger being updated on the BBC site. Does anyone know why and will this mean that the film reviews xml feeds will no longer be updated. Regards Adam - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Film Reviews
Andrew Bowden wrote: I see the film reviews are nolonger being updated on the BBC site. Does anyone know why and will this mean that the film reviews xml feeds will no longer be updated. The Movies site (and it's associated section on BBCi) formally closed on 6 May 2008 - they've left the archive online, however there won't be any new reviews. As such, the feeds won't get updated. The ratings DB at http://www.bbc.co.uk/movies/ (assume this is the site you're talking about) still seems open for business. I voted on a couple of movies and it increased the counter, eg. 'Average rating: 4 from 701 votes' in http://www.bbc.co.uk/films/2002/03/28/panic_room_2002_review.shtml# Will the system carry on accepting ratings indefinitely? Is there any way to get a movie ratings data dump out of /cgi-perl/polling/poll.pl ? Seems like a nice collection of data, even if it won't be updated. There are people pages too, even enough to play the 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon game, albeit on a dataset much smaller than IMDB: http://www.bbc.co.uk/films/gateways/star/baconkevin/ If http://www.bbc.co.uk/archive/catalogue_offline.shtml were back online, it might be fun to match up the identifiers to find other appearances of the same actors elsewhere in BBCland... cheers, Dan -- http://danbri.org/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Film Reviews
They should link it to an audio-indexed version of the Kermode film rants too... On 5/29/08, Dan Brickley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew Bowden wrote: I see the film reviews are nolonger being updated on the BBC site. Does anyone know why and will this mean that the film reviews xml feeds will no longer be updated. The Movies site (and it's associated section on BBCi) formally closed on 6 May 2008 - they've left the archive online, however there won't be any new reviews. As such, the feeds won't get updated. The ratings DB at http://www.bbc.co.uk/movies/ (assume this is the site you're talking about) still seems open for business. I voted on a couple of movies and it increased the counter, eg. 'Average rating: 4 from 701 votes' in http://www.bbc.co.uk/films/2002/03/28/panic_room_2002_review.shtml# Will the system carry on accepting ratings indefinitely? Is there any way to get a movie ratings data dump out of /cgi-perl/polling/poll.pl ? Seems like a nice collection of data, even if it won't be updated. There are people pages too, even enough to play the 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon game, albeit on a dataset much smaller than IMDB: http://www.bbc.co.uk/films/gateways/star/baconkevin/ If http://www.bbc.co.uk/archive/catalogue_offline.shtml were back online, it might be fun to match up the identifiers to find other appearances of the same actors elsewhere in BBCland... cheers, Dan -- http://danbri.org/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Film Reviews
In theory the polling app, which is a general application across a number of sites, will continue to accept ratings indefinitely. Although the rating data is not easily extractable if there was a strong enough call for it, it could be done. I don't think there are any plans to republish the articles or gateway pages (the people, genre, star, etc index pages) in more open mark up format but there's no reason why we couldn't, if anyone wants to such a thing it could be a fun project for Mashed. I wrote both the polling app and the Films site backend so know both systems quite well. Robin Doran bbc.co.uk -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Brickley Sent: 29 May 2008 16:08 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Film Reviews Andrew Bowden wrote: I see the film reviews are nolonger being updated on the BBC site. Does anyone know why and will this mean that the film reviews xml feeds will no longer be updated. The Movies site (and it's associated section on BBCi) formally closed on 6 May 2008 - they've left the archive online, however there won't be any new reviews. As such, the feeds won't get updated. The ratings DB at http://www.bbc.co.uk/movies/ (assume this is the site you're talking about) still seems open for business. I voted on a couple of movies and it increased the counter, eg. 'Average rating: 4 from 701 votes' in http://www.bbc.co.uk/films/2002/03/28/panic_room_2002_review.shtml# Will the system carry on accepting ratings indefinitely? Is there any way to get a movie ratings data dump out of /cgi-perl/polling/poll.pl ? Seems like a nice collection of data, even if it won't be updated. There are people pages too, even enough to play the 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon game, albeit on a dataset much smaller than IMDB: http://www.bbc.co.uk/films/gateways/star/baconkevin/ If http://www.bbc.co.uk/archive/catalogue_offline.shtml were back online, it might be fun to match up the identifiers to find other appearances of the same actors elsewhere in BBCland... cheers, Dan -- http://danbri.org/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Film Reviews
Dan Brickley wrote: Andrew Bowden wrote: I see the film reviews are nolonger being updated on the BBC site. Does anyone know why and will this mean that the film reviews xml feeds will no longer be updated. The Movies site (and it's associated section on BBCi) formally closed on 6 May 2008 - they've left the archive online, however there won't be any new reviews. As such, the feeds won't get updated. The ratings DB at http://www.bbc.co.uk/movies/ (assume this is the site you're talking about) still seems open for business. I voted on a couple of movies and it increased the counter, eg. 'Average rating: 4 from 701 votes' in http://www.bbc.co.uk/films/2002/03/28/panic_room_2002_review.shtml# Will the system carry on accepting ratings indefinitely? Is there any way to get a movie ratings data dump out of /cgi-perl/polling/poll.pl ? Yes there is. The documentation etc is available from http://www.bbc.co.uk/movies/syndication/1/docs/, however it probably isn't much use anymore. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Film Reviews
Hi, Does anyone know why ... The Movies producer says, As there are a great many services that provide listings and written reviews on the web, the BBC has decided to focus its efforts elsewhere, so we will no longer be updating the site. The red button movie service and www.bbc.co.uk/movies have been closed from today as they were not offering a distinctive service for film audiences. The decision was taken after a full review of the services within the context of the broader market and other BBC film digital offerings. will this mean that the film reviews xml feeds will no longer be updated. Yup, afraid so. This data existed to produce the various movies services. Will the system carry on accepting ratings indefinitely? Yep. Is there any way to get a movie ratings data dump out of /cgi-perl/polling/poll.pl ? The Movies production staff don't mind if we publish a copy of the entire review database. Each review contains a polling ID that you could use to fetch the results using this URL, http://www.bbc.co.uk/movies/syndication/1/user-rating/[id]/rating.xml Or as Robin mentions, we could just extract the Movies data from the communal rating database. Is anyone else interested in this? Thanks, M - Vision / FMT On 29/5/08 16:07, Dan Brickley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew Bowden wrote: I see the film reviews are nolonger being updated on the BBC site. Does anyone know why and will this mean that the film reviews xml feeds will no longer be updated. The Movies site (and it's associated section on BBCi) formally closed on 6 May 2008 - they've left the archive online, however there won't be any new reviews. As such, the feeds won't get updated. The ratings DB at http://www.bbc.co.uk/movies/ (assume this is the site you're talking about) still seems open for business. I voted on a couple of movies and it increased the counter, eg. 'Average rating: 4 from 701 votes' in http://www.bbc.co.uk/films/2002/03/28/panic_room_2002_review.shtml# Will the system carry on accepting ratings indefinitely? Is there any way to get a movie ratings data dump out of /cgi-perl/polling/poll.pl ? Seems like a nice collection of data, even if it won't be updated. There are people pages too, even enough to play the 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon game, albeit on a dataset much smaller than IMDB: http://www.bbc.co.uk/films/gateways/star/baconkevin/ If http://www.bbc.co.uk/archive/catalogue_offline.shtml were back online, it might be fun to match up the identifiers to find other appearances of the same actors elsewhere in BBCland... cheers, Dan -- http://danbri.org/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
