Re: [backstage] openID on the BBC
I really want to understand how OpenID works from a login point of view. If anyone can easily point me to some PHP code that allows a user to log in via an OpenID, I'd dearly like to have a play with it for mediauk.com - I've failed, so far, to find anything that my little brain understands quite yet. (OpenID was on the Virgin Radio milestone map as a 'would be nice' - as a consumer, rather than a provider). -- http://james.cridland.net/ On 6/5/07, Gordon Joly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 14:25 +0100 5/6/07, Brendan Quinn wrote: Thanks Christopher, that's interesting. We've been thinking along similar lines in some initial brainstorming (although I'm not au fait with Simon W's latest work) -- if you think of OpenID as an identification framework rather than an authentication framework then some possibilities open up. Keep the ideas coming, please :-) Brendan. PS to be clear, Simon has been commissioned to write a report on how the BBC might use OpenID in the future. We're not necessarily committing to it or endorsing it as a technology, though. Swiftly followed by a report on the BBC's use of open source software, open protocols, open formats, etc. Gordo -- Think Feynman/ http://pobox.com/~gordo/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]/// - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Facebook Apps
I got one of our crack developers on the case, and the result is http://apps.facebook.com/virginradio/ in case anyone wants to take a look. We're quite pleased with it, but it's certainly a work in progress. Works best if you're already registered at virginradio.co.uk but still works fine if not. Three days' development, I think. (Naturally, I am in Facebook - but apologies to those who try to add me as a friend, I have a must have met at least twice rule.) -- http://james.cridland.net/ On 6/4/07, Jason Cartwright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've not made an app yet, but I've become a pretty avid user of Facebook recently and have tried out a few apps. The problem at the moment seems to be that some of the popular apps (the Flickr one for instance) are developed by part timers and run off cheap shared hosting accounts. Not usually a problem for a mashup, but with the ridicious popularity of Facebook these limitations seem to be the cause errors and malfunctioning all over the show. Not very good. Seems they need to get with thier developer relations. Last.fm were a bit hacked (pun intended) off at not being in the early dev program... http://blog.last.fm/2007/05/31/lastfm-on-facebook J -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Barry Carlyon (Webmaster LSRfm.com/LSweb.org.uk) *Sent:* 04 June 2007 10:30 *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk *Subject:* [backstage] Facebook Apps Hey everyone I'm surprised no one has commented on this yet but I imagine I'm one of the younger members of this list, hence Facebook…. Anywho I was wondering what everyone thought about the sudden explosion of facebook applications, and whether anyone had written one, who is a member of this list. In light of the face we have just been talking about Google developer day, which I could not attend… Yours, --- Barry Carlyon Student Radio Association Regional Rep. North East/Yorkshire LUU Media Rep Webmaster LSRfm.com, Leeds Student, LUUBackstage, Action, BurnFM http://www.barrycarlyon.co.uk http://www.lsrfm.com http://www.lsweb.org.uk *http://www.wbmfproductions.co.uk* *http://www.airebornetheatre.co.uk* mobile: 07729048443 skype: barrycarlyon email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] live help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This Message Has Been Scanned by Norton And Contains the Views of Barry Carlyon ONLY
Re: [backstage] BBC Radio 7
On 04/06/07, Jamie Tetlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Gary, I'm not that close to the DAB side of things but I asked a few questions for you and so here are some answers: The main aim was to ensure all of our services are lumped together on DAB radios. Some radios default to listing by multiplex but the majority list stations in alphabetical order. So, the old Radio 1, 6 Music and 1 Xtra short names left these networks stranded away from the rest of the BBC family. By putting BBC and, in most cases, BBC R in front of everything we can ensure that all radios list our networks in one lump. The significance is that if your network is close to a popular (BBC) network (e.g. Radio 2) you can benefit from the audience wealth of your neighbour when people decide to browse around. It's a case of a few crumbs from the table but this could develop in to future loyal listening. Also, many people did not recognise some of our stations as BBC networks ... we weren't getting credit and they weren't getting the credibility associated with this. Being in consecutive order was not a major consideration just a logical by-product. ...to back that up I've heard mention of a recent study or two showing that our listeners do hold BBC Radio in high esteem as a brand so perhaps you can expect to see this kind of consistency rolling out elsewhere, hope that helps, Jamie. --- Jamie Tetlow Designer, Audio Music BBC Future Media Technology 718, Henry Wood House, W1B 3DF On 29/5/07 14:25, Gary Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last night I noticed my digital radio (The Bug) displayed BBC Radio 7 instead of the usual BBC 7. The shortcut also displayed as BBC R7, like Radio 4 does. I investigated and found 6music had also changed - BBC Radio 6 music. Why is this? Obviously it's a radio broadcast - it's a digital radio... BBC Radio 1 - 4 Five Five I understand, as, broadcast on traditional radio, have always been called this; 7 never has. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ Thanks for the interesting explanation! -- Gary Kirk - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] openID on the BBC
I use a very simplified version of an OpenID server for my OpenID requirements - just one flat-file PHP script in which you define your variables such as password, username etc. That script's running on christopher.woods.name and you can download it from http://siege.org/projects/phpMyID - the simplest way is to have a domain and run it in the root (because of course OpenID uses whatever address the script is located at, so if you ran it on james.cridland.net/openid that's what would show up). OpenID also seemingly doesn't like mod_rewritten domain names, and will always use the original url (I tried to run it on my kerblam.co.uk domain but it always showed blog.infinitus.co.uk, which could be a limitation of the PHP-only implementation or the way the version I'm using is scripted, but I had that .name domain which I purchased for no reason but subsequently found its use :) There's also more comprehensive OpenID solutions which use SQL databases, support multiple users etc... More info http://openid.net/wiki/index.php/Run_your_own_identity_server and http://gentoo-wiki.com/Host_your_own_OpenID_server are two good places to start. _ From: James Cridland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 June 2007 11:58 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] openID on the BBC I really want to understand how OpenID works from a login point of view. If anyone can easily point me to some PHP code that allows a user to log in via an OpenID, I'd dearly like to have a play with it for mediauk.com - I've failed, so far, to find anything that my little brain understands quite yet. (OpenID was on the Virgin Radio milestone map as a 'would be nice' - as a consumer, rather than a provider). -- http://james.cridland.net/ On 6/5/07, Gordon Joly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 14:25 +0100 5/6/07, Brendan Quinn wrote: Thanks Christopher, that's interesting. We've been thinking along similar lines in some initial brainstorming (although I'm not au fait with Simon W's latest work) -- if you think of OpenID as an identification framework rather than an authentication framework then some possibilities open up. Keep the ideas coming, please :-) Brendan. PS to be clear, Simon has been commissioned to write a report on how the BBC might use OpenID in the future. We're not necessarily committing to it or endorsing it as a technology, though. Swiftly followed by a report on the BBC's use of open source software, open protocols, open formats, etc. Gordo -- Think Feynman/ http://pobox.com/~gordo/ http://pobox.com/~gordo/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]/// - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] openID on the BBC
I think the original point of this thread has been lost a bit, which was about the fact that there aren't enough sites using OpenID as a consumer ( i.e. offering log in using your OpenID), rather than ways to run your own OpenID server (of which there are countless). I think I like the idea of the BBC offering an OpenID login option, rather than the BBC turning into yet another OpenID provider. In response to James - I don't use PHP, but have been using OpenID (purely as a consumer) on the rails-powered twitterfeed.com. It actually saved me some hassles, since I don't have to worry about anyone's usernames and passwords. For php, this may be worth a look: http://www.openidenabled.com/openid/libraries/php Cheers, Mario. On 6/10/07, Christopher Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use a very simplified version of an OpenID server for my OpenID requirements - just one flat-file PHP script in which you define your variables such as password, username etc. That script's running on christopher.woods.name and you can download it from http://siege.org/projects/phpMyID - the simplest way is to have a domain and run it in the root (because of course OpenID uses whatever address the script is located at, so if you ran it on james.cridland.net/openid that's what would show up). OpenID also seemingly doesn't like mod_rewritten domain names, and will always use the original url (I tried to run it on my kerblam.co.uk domain but it always showed blog.infinitus.co.uk, which could be a limitation of the PHP-only implementation or the way the version I'm using is scripted, but I had that .name domain which I purchased for no reason but subsequently found its use :) There's also more comprehensive OpenID solutions which use SQL databases, support multiple users etc... More info http://openid.net/wiki/index.php/Run_your_own_identity_server and http://gentoo-wiki.com/Host_your_own_OpenID_server are two good places to start. -- *From:* James Cridland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* 10 June 2007 11:58 *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk *Subject:* Re: [backstage] openID on the BBC I really want to understand how OpenID works from a login point of view. If anyone can easily point me to some PHP code that allows a user to log in via an OpenID, I'd dearly like to have a play with it for mediauk.com - I've failed, so far, to find anything that my little brain understands quite yet. (OpenID was on the Virgin Radio milestone map as a 'would be nice' - as a consumer, rather than a provider). -- http://james.cridland.net/ On 6/5/07, Gordon Joly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 14:25 +0100 5/6/07, Brendan Quinn wrote: Thanks Christopher, that's interesting. We've been thinking along similar lines in some initial brainstorming (although I'm not au fait with Simon W's latest work) -- if you think of OpenID as an identification framework rather than an authentication framework then some possibilities open up. Keep the ideas coming, please :-) Brendan. PS to be clear, Simon has been commissioned to write a report on how the BBC might use OpenID in the future. We're not necessarily committing to it or endorsing it as a technology, though. Swiftly followed by a report on the BBC's use of open source software, open protocols, open formats, etc. Gordo -- Think Feynman/ http://pobox.com/~gordo/ http://pobox.com/%7Egordo/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]/// - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
