get_iplayer 2.77 release (was Re: [backstage] get_iplayer dropped in response to BBC’s lack of support for open source)
On Wed, 2010-03-10 at 15:07 +, Iain Wallace wrote: Given that this is entirely open source (real open source, not Ian Hunter bizarro-land open source) and the number of users it has it seems unlikely that someone won't fork or maintain the code. If it does fall out of repair, it's back to torrents for TV catch up for me. It didn't actually _need_ any maintenance for a while. But the way that both Limelight and Akamai RTMP streams changed over the last week or so, so I've now made a v2.77 release: ftp://ftp.infradead.org/pub/get_iplayer/get_iplayer-2.77.tar.gz There's a git repository at git://git.infradead.org/get_iplayer.git http://git.infradead.org/get_iplayer.git and a mailing list at http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer The Akamai 'fix' is extremely dubious; if anyone can shed any light on http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/get_iplayer/2010-May/16.html that would be much appreciated. I don't really know much about RTMP, and I don't even really admit to knowing perl -- so patches from users are most welcome. I can give accounts on git.infradead.org if you want to publish a git tree there with your changes, or you can just mail patches to the list (or to me in private if you'd like them to be applied anonymously for some reason). -- dwmw2 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] Re: get_iplayer 2.77 release (was Re: [back stage] get_iplayer dropped in response to BBC ’s lack of support for open source)
On 26-May-2010, at 15:27, David Woodhouse wrote: I can give accounts on git.infradead.org if you want to publish a git tree there with your changes, or you can just mail patches to the list (or to me in private if you'd like them to be applied anonymously for some reason). JOOI, how much divergance is there between this and http://github.com/jjl/get_iplayer ? M. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Re: get_iplayer 2.77 release (was Re: [backstage] get_iplayer dropped in response to BBC’s lack of support for open source)
On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 16:02 +0100, Mo McRoberts wrote: JOOI, how much divergance is there between this and http://github.com/jjl/get_iplayer ? Not a lot -- I've been talking to James and trying to make sure I wasn't stepping on his toes. Only the Akamai stuff is different, which we're currently working on. His patch for that is correct; but mine actually works. I think James is going to rebase his tree on top of mine (and hence on top of all the old history imported from Subversion) at the weekend. I also think I've actually worked the Akamai thing out now: http://git.infradead.org/get_iplayer.git/commitdiff/cb3c072b I may do a 2.78 release once everything's sorted, but future announcements will probably only be on the get_iplayer mailing list; not here. -- dwmw2 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] iPad and iPlayer
Erik Huggers has been briefing today - and has said that iPlayer will be iPad friendly in time for UK iPad launch this Friday. Telegraph article interprets it wrongly I think (saying that it is a downloadable app) - but anyway - principle is clear. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/7768352/BBC-iPlayer-coming-to-Apple-iPad.html Paul On Thu, 20 May 2010 13:05:08 +0100, you wrote: Already described below is a way to have it work on iPad. I am not requesting that iPad gets access to any more content (or any better views) than iPhone. Maybe, in the meantime, BBC could add that workaround to a FAQ that people could be directed to. If the volume of sales justifies further investigation by BBC then fine - but right now the default experience is rubbish if anyone is trying to get any audio or video. Paul On Thu, 20 May 2010 12:26:33 +0100, you wrote: It's actually incredibly easy to get the iPlayer working on the iPad via safari. Additionally the video source is fully compatible with HTML5 video containers. So long as you ensure that requests come from iphone marked devices you can get Safari to work with it perfectly and indeed present HTML5 video containers with iPlayer video streams. The problem for a legit version is that they will a) have to buy some iPads then b) write a larger screen mobile version c) test it, make change and release I wouldn't bank on anything coming soon, corporate oil tanker :) Additionally, AFAIK not all videos are available for the iPhone so it's not a question of making a small shift to the main iPlayer website. http://img31.imageshack.us/i/ipadkg.jpg/ -Original Message- From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Paul Webster Sent: 20 May 2010 10:23 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Cc: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] iPad and iPlayer Can someone from BBC persuade someone else in BBC with the right powers to make a statement on this? FYI Apple have now enabled access to UK AppStore for iPad users Paul On Tue, 11 May 2010 08:33:03 +0100, you wrote: While the method below is still working fine - it remains a bit of a pain to use. Any chance that someone in BBC could make the change that I suggested nearly a month ago - namely to add the iPad as an alias for the iPhone (user-agent strings below). If BBC makes special format for iPad in the future then fine ... simply remove the alias at that point. Paul Webster On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 18:34:42 +0100, you wrote: Ah - good idea. I guess that means that the Apple webkit is statically linked - so it picks up the iPhone version. Just tried it by using the iPhone Facebook app - and became a fan of one of the BBC iPlayer pages ... which has a link in the info section. Worked well. Paul On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 15:11:26 +0100, you wrote: If you use an iPhone app with a built in browser (Files works well for me), you can access the iPhone iPlayer on the iPad. It looks reasonably good in pixel-doubled mode. Jamie. On 15 Apr 2010, at 12:33, Paul Webster paul-at-dabdig.com |BBC Lists/Example Allow| wrote: Ok - I admit it ... I have one. Any chance of adding iPad Safari user-agent to the list of things that look like an iPhone so that iPlayer works? Here are examples: iPad: Mozilla/5.0 (iPad; U; CPU OS 3_2 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/531.21.10 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0.4 Mobile/7B367 Safari/531.21.10 iPhone: Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 3_1_3 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/528.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile/7E18 Safari/528.16 I realise that it could be optimised for the display characteristics - but right now it is useless because BBC site asks for Flash. Paul Webster - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] iPad and iPlayer
Let's hope the same priority has been afforded to Android users. On 26 May 2010 22:21, Paul Webster p...@dabdig.com wrote: Erik Huggers has been briefing today - and has said that iPlayer will be iPad friendly in time for UK iPad launch this Friday. Telegraph article interprets it wrongly I think (saying that it is a downloadable app) - but anyway - principle is clear. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/7768352/BBC-iPlayer-coming-to-Apple-iPad.html Paul On Thu, 20 May 2010 13:05:08 +0100, you wrote: Already described below is a way to have it work on iPad. I am not requesting that iPad gets access to any more content (or any better views) than iPhone. Maybe, in the meantime, BBC could add that workaround to a FAQ that people could be directed to. If the volume of sales justifies further investigation by BBC then fine - but right now the default experience is rubbish if anyone is trying to get any audio or video. Paul On Thu, 20 May 2010 12:26:33 +0100, you wrote: It's actually incredibly easy to get the iPlayer working on the iPad via safari. Additionally the video source is fully compatible with HTML5 video containers. So long as you ensure that requests come from iphone marked devices you can get Safari to work with it perfectly and indeed present HTML5 video containers with iPlayer video streams. The problem for a legit version is that they will a) have to buy some iPads then b) write a larger screen mobile version c) test it, make change and release I wouldn't bank on anything coming soon, corporate oil tanker :) Additionally, AFAIK not all videos are available for the iPhone so it's not a question of making a small shift to the main iPlayer website. http://img31.imageshack.us/i/ipadkg.jpg/ -Original Message- From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Paul Webster Sent: 20 May 2010 10:23 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Cc: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] iPad and iPlayer Can someone from BBC persuade someone else in BBC with the right powers to make a statement on this? FYI Apple have now enabled access to UK AppStore for iPad users Paul On Tue, 11 May 2010 08:33:03 +0100, you wrote: While the method below is still working fine - it remains a bit of a pain to use. Any chance that someone in BBC could make the change that I suggested nearly a month ago - namely to add the iPad as an alias for the iPhone (user-agent strings below). If BBC makes special format for iPad in the future then fine ... simply remove the alias at that point. Paul Webster On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 18:34:42 +0100, you wrote: Ah - good idea. I guess that means that the Apple webkit is statically linked - so it picks up the iPhone version. Just tried it by using the iPhone Facebook app - and became a fan of one of the BBC iPlayer pages ... which has a link in the info section. Worked well. Paul On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 15:11:26 +0100, you wrote: If you use an iPhone app with a built in browser (Files works well for me), you can access the iPhone iPlayer on the iPad. It looks reasonably good in pixel-doubled mode. Jamie. On 15 Apr 2010, at 12:33, Paul Webster paul-at-dabdig.com |BBC Lists/Example Allow| wrote: Ok - I admit it ... I have one. Any chance of adding iPad Safari user-agent to the list of things that look like an iPhone so that iPlayer works? Here are examples: iPad: Mozilla/5.0 (iPad; U; CPU OS 3_2 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/531.21.10 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0.4 Mobile/7B367 Safari/531.21.10 iPhone: Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 3_1_3 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/528.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile/7E18 Safari/528.16 I realise that it could be optimised for the display characteristics - but right now it is useless because BBC site asks for Flash. Paul Webster - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Brian Butterworth follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/briantist web: http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002
Re: [backstage] Re: get_iplayer 2.77 release (was Re: [backstage] get_iplayer dropped in response to BBC’s lack of support for open source)
Hi folks, Considering it's now being handled here - do we have anyone with any clout as to getting get_iplayer supported officially? Just thinking that there is precedent for a download/streaming engine separate to playback client - just look toward the EBU... :) Watching with interest... Alex -- Alex Cockell Reading, Berks, UK a...@acockell.eclipse.co.uk - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
