[BackupPC-users] Offsite copy
Hi, I currently use BackuPC in a number of ways. One of my more recent requirements is to be able to sync the most recent backup to an offsite location eg. I have a backuppc server which backs up itself and a number of clients. The most recent of each of these backups must be rsync'd offsite I have found no way of doing this to date (I don't believe the archive feature would work for this scenario, I hope i'm wrong) I did give the backuppcfs ( https://svn.ulyssis.org/repos/sipa/backuppc-fuse/backuppcfs.pl) fuse module a try and initially it worked great and I though then I had found a solution but I am now unable to mount anymore as as soon as I try and access I get Transport endpoint is not connected errors. Perhaps a reboot will fix this but I can already see that this is buggy so not a long term solution. Any idea how I can achieve this? Or does anyone have any recommendations for alternative fuse modules -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Offsite copy
Hi, I currently use BackuPC in a number of ways. One of my more recent requirements is to be able to sync the most recent backup to an offsite location eg. I have a backuppc server which backs up itself and a number of clients. The most recent of each of these backups must be rsync'd offsite For a physical solution to this, I use a removable drive cartridge. Once a week I rsync the whole backuppc file system (/var/lib/backuppc) onto an encrypted volume stored on the removable drive, then carry the removable drive off-site. I rotate three removable drives: one in the drive bay, one on the shelf for the next use, and one (the most recent) always stored off-site. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Offsite copy
Hi, Thanks for the reply. This isn't really a solution for me. My intention is to have a working copy of the latest snapshot at any on time so that in the event of a disaster I can simply drop it in place. Therefore a one to one rsync type snapshot is what I'm after. If I could access the latest version/snapshot as I would when using the fuse module (That unfortunately doesn't work as it's buggy) and rsync that off-site that would work for me. On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Andrew Schulman and...@alumni.utexas.netwrote: Hi, I currently use BackuPC in a number of ways. One of my more recent requirements is to be able to sync the most recent backup to an offsite location eg. I have a backuppc server which backs up itself and a number of clients. The most recent of each of these backups must be rsync'd offsite For a physical solution to this, I use a removable drive cartridge. Once a week I rsync the whole backuppc file system (/var/lib/backuppc) onto an encrypted volume stored on the removable drive, then carry the removable drive off-site. I rotate three removable drives: one in the drive bay, one on the shelf for the next use, and one (the most recent) always stored off-site. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
[BackupPC-users] Offsite copy
Hi, Thanks for the reply. This isn't really a solution for me. My intention is to have a working copy of the latest snapshot at any on time so that in the event of a disaster I can simply drop it in place. Therefore a one to one rsync type snapshot is what I'm after. If I could access the latest version/snapshot as I would when using the fuse module (That unfortunately doesn't work as it's buggy) and rsync that off-site that would work for me. +-- |This was sent by mem...@thehorvaths.co.uk via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Offsite copy
As far as I remember you run into problems when rsync'ing a big /var/lib/backuppc directory because of limitations on rsync / memory consumption. - PR -- Von unterwegs über die Luftschnittstelle gesendetAndrew Schulman and...@alumni.utexas.net hat geschrieben: Hi, I currently use BackuPC in a number of ways. One of my more recent requirements is to be able to sync the most recent backup to an offsite location eg. I have a backuppc server which backs up itself and a number of clients. The most recent of each of these backups must be rsync'd offsite For a physical solution to this, I use a removable drive cartridge. Once a week I rsync the whole backuppc file system (/var/lib/backuppc) onto an encrypted volume stored on the removable drive, then carry the removable drive off-site. I rotate three removable drives: one in the drive bay, one on the shelf for the next use, and one (the most recent) always stored off-site. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki: http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
[BackupPC-users] Offsite copy
I wouldn't want to rsync /var/lib/backuppc as this is not in a format that can be readily used. What I'm after is a ready to use snapshot, As it looks on the server I'm backing up or what it would look like if using the archive host feature but just not in tar format. +-- |This was sent by mem...@thehorvaths.co.uk via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Offsite copy
Depending on how you've setup your backup-server (physical/virtual) you could just save an image of the server. The obvious question is: against what are you protected your data? If you store an offsite backup of /var /lib /backuppc and your main datacenter dies, you need to restore not only the data but also the servers. So you should have a backup plan for all your servers (including backuppc) - PR shorvath backuppc-fo...@backupcentral.com hat geschrieben:I wouldn't want to rsync /var/lib/backuppc as this is not in a format that can be readily used. What I'm after is a ready to use snapshot, As it looks on the server I'm backing up or what it would look like if using the archive host feature but just not in tar format. +-- |This was sent by mem...@thehorvaths.co.uk via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki: http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Offsite copy
shorvath backuppc-fo...@backupcentral.com wrote on 06/26/2012 01:02:00 PM: I wouldn't want to rsync /var/lib/backuppc as this is not in a format that can be readily used. What I'm after is a ready to use snapshot, As it looks on the server I'm backing up or what it would look like if using the archive host feature but just not in tar format. Why do you expect BackupPC to provide that? Other than using the Archive function to create a tar and extracting it somewhere, there isn't an option to do that within BacukpPC. It's not something that is included in its capabilities. If you want an rsynced copy of your data, why don't you simply rsync the data from the host? BackupPC won't actually provide any value in the process, anyway. BackupPC is a hammer, and not every problem is a nail. While I'm writing this, I'll quickly add that many people handle the off-site aspect in one of three ways: 1) Archive tar files on removable media 2) Mirrors of the entire BackupPC filesystem, regularly rotated off-site (often by using MD and breaking a miror) 3) Two BacukpPC servers configured to back up the same host. However, *none* of these will give you a simple filesystem that looks like the original. That is just plain not something BackupPC will do. Tim Massey Out of the Box Solutions, Inc. Creative IT Solutions Made Simple! http://www.OutOfTheBoxSolutions.com tmas...@obscorp.com 22108 Harper Ave. St. Clair Shores, MI 48080 Office: (800)750-4OBS (4627) Cell: (586)945-8796 -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Offsite copy
shorvath backuppc-fo...@backupcentral.com wrote on 06/26/2012 01:02:00 PM: I wouldn't want to rsync /var/lib/backuppc as this is not in a format that can be readily used. What I'm after is a ready to use snapshot, As it looks on the server I'm backing up or what it would look like if using the archive host feature but just not in tar format. While I'm at it, another point: you say that you want a snapshot. Great: I think you should have a snapshot, too. Unfortunately, BackupPC does not provide snapshots. It provides files. Under most circumstances (and under Windows, under *all* circumstances), BackupPC is not going to allow you to do a bare-metal restore, and certainly not easily. Frankly, asking it to is a lot to ask. But it does a tremendous job of allowing you to back up huge collections of individual files, as well as keeping an entire history of those files, all in a space-optimized way. There *are* tools that do a great job of snapshots, including bare-metal restore. However, they won't easily allow you to restore a single file, and won't allow you to keep multiple copies of your data efficiently. Clonezilla is a good one to look at. Using LVM snapshots is another. If you're using virtualized hosts, your virtualization engine should have snapshot capabilities already (and snapshots are one of the best reasons to be using virtualization in the first place). File-level and snapshot backups are complementary. There is some overlap, but one does not cover everything that the other does. One is a hammer, one is a screwdriver. Use the right tool for the job. Tim Massey Out of the Box Solutions, Inc. Creative IT Solutions Made Simple! http://www.OutOfTheBoxSolutions.com tmas...@obscorp.com 22108 Harper Ave. St. Clair Shores, MI 48080 Office: (800)750-4OBS (4627) Cell: (586)945-8796 -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Missing Scripts from www.smop.co.uk
On 6/25/12 6:22 AM, F.Trojahn wrote: Hello all, recently when searching for some BackuPC script (to change the f%2Fnnn/fmmm listings to real file/path listings) I've noticed that the scripts that were found at http://www.smop.co.uk/mediawiki/index.php/BackupPC are note available any more. E.g. Backuppc_new http://www.smop.co.uk/mediawiki/images/c/c5/Backuppc_new Not Found The requested URL /mediawiki/images/c/c5/Backuppc_new was not found on this server. - is there an other ressource for download of these scripts, Hi Falko, try the web archive links below: http://web.archive.org/web/20100701185412/http://www.smop.co.uk/mediawiki/index.php/BackupPC#Media:Backuppc_new http://web.archive.org/web/20100702235043/http://www.smop.co.uk/mediawiki/upload/c/c5/Backuppc_new -- joe -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
[BackupPC-users] Offsite copy
BackupPC is great at what it does, backing up files, which is why I use it. As my original post states, am aware that backuppc is not designed to achieve my offsite-ready-to-use-most-recent-copy which is why I tried the fuse module and was asking more for suggestions or alternatives to the module rather than how backuppc can (can't) do this. Perhaps I shouldn't have used the term snapshot either because of the obvious confusion with lvm snapshots and the like but was instead referring to a like for like copy of my live environment. Sorry for the confusion :( Yes, I could just take the backup directly from the individual servers, and by the looks of things it may be my only option. I was rather hoping for perhaps another fuse module alternative or something that would still allow me to keep everything centralised. I really don't want to have backup scripts running on every server if I can help it. but If I must I must. If only that fuse module would work it would solve all my problems... +-- |This was sent by mem...@thehorvaths.co.uk via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Offsite copy
I manage my offsite disaster-recovery backup (which is rsync'd over the net) by: + Creating a directory of links that point only to the most recent full and incremental for each host. (Incrementals always go against the last full.) + rsync each host directory individually. This breaks dedupe between hosts, but it's a compromise against rsync not handling the huge file list well. + Makes a tarball of the current backuppc config and copies it to the offsite, so there's always copy of the config in the clear, with documentation on how to bring backuppc up on the remote box. So my offsite backup always contains the most recent backup image. It's not a drop in place snapshot, but it's up to date and contains all the information necessary to quickly bring backuppc up on the offsite box, but doesn't contain unnecessary incrementals or older fulls. My offsite is about 1.8 TB, my local is 2.6 TB. I have scripts I can share. On 06/26/2012 12:33 PM, Timothy J Massey wrote: shorvath backuppc-fo...@backupcentral.com wrote on 06/26/2012 01:02:00 PM: I wouldn't want to rsync /var/lib/backuppc as this is not in a format that can be readily used. What I'm after is a ready to use snapshot, As it looks on the server I'm backing up or what it would look like if using the archive host feature but just not in tar format. While I'm at it, another point: you say that you want a snapshot. Great: I think you should have a snapshot, too. Unfortunately, BackupPC does not provide snapshots. It provides files. Under most circumstances (and under Windows, under *all* circumstances), BackupPC is not going to allow you to do a bare-metal restore, and certainly not easily. Frankly, asking it to is a lot to ask. But it does a tremendous job of allowing you to back up huge collections of individual files, as well as keeping an entire history of those files, all in a space-optimized way. There *are* tools that do a great job of snapshots, including bare-metal restore. However, they won't easily allow you to restore a single file, and won't allow you to keep multiple copies of your data efficiently. Clonezilla is a good one to look at. Using LVM snapshots is another. If you're using virtualized hosts, your virtualization engine should have snapshot capabilities already (and snapshots are one of the best reasons to be using virtualization in the first place). File-level and snapshot backups are complementary. There is some overlap, but one does not cover everything that the other does. One is a hammer, one is a screwdriver. Use the right tool for the job. Tim Massey -- Carl D Cravens (ccrav...@excelii.com), Ext 228 (620.327.1228) Lead System Administrator -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
[BackupPC-users] Offsite copy
That sounds very interesting Carl, I'd be keen to take a look at your scripts? The reason I need a like-for-like ready-to-use copy is so that in the event of a disaster I am able to bring a disk unit to the client as a drop in and ready replacement of their (almost) most recent data while I pick up the pieces in the background (eg, restoring from backuppc or whatever) The data is in the several Tb range for most clients. I currently use rsync for this (Both onsite and offsite) and am able to achieve this with great success but it tends to be quite fragile and needs some TLC (more than I'd like actually) and I like the way that backupPC just seems to work!! To be able to replace the onsite daily, incremental, etc side of things with backuppc but still maintain the ready to use offsite element would really be great and a huge improvement on my current system. As Timothy J Massey has seemed to imply, I do NOT expect BackupPC to do this (Unless there's some trick or feature of backuppc that I'm not aware of, then that would be an added bonus, but I doubt). However maybe a third party project, script or fuse module? +-- |This was sent by mem...@thehorvaths.co.uk via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Offsite copy
On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Timothy J Massey tmas...@obscorp.com wrote: What I'm after is a ready to use snapshot, As it looks on the server I'm backing up or what it would look like if using the archive host feature but just not in tar format. Why do you expect BackupPC to provide that? Other than using the Archive function to create a tar and extracting it somewhere, there isn't an option to do that within BacukpPC. It's not something that is included in its capabilities. Theoretically at least, you could add the host where you want the snapshot as a backuppc target, but disable backups on it. Then you could do a restore to it using the data from the original source with rsync as the transfer method. However, I don't think there would be any way to automate that to make the restore run after a new backup. --- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Offsite copy
shorvath backuppc-fo...@backupcentral.com wrote on 06/26/2012 03:10:59 PM: Yes, I could just take the backup directly from the individual servers, and by the looks of things it may be my only option. I was rather hoping for perhaps another fuse module alternative or something that would still allow me to keep everything centralised. I really don't want to have backup scripts running on every server if I can help it. Why would the backup have to be handled by the host? You can use whatever technique BackupPC is using to pull the data, all from a central location just like BackupPC. If you were using rsync over ssh or rsyncd, it would be quite trivial to create a system that looked just like BackupPC to the hosts but instead of storing all files in a single pool and handling versioning, dedupe, etc., it simply dumped the files into the filesystem directly. If you're using some other method (tar or smb, for example), it would still work (and trivially), but would be very hard on bandwidth. If the data is being moved over a WAN link, performance will be an issue. Stick with rsyncd or rsync over ssh. Timothy J. Massey Out of the Box Solutions, Inc. Creative IT Solutions Made Simple! http://www.OutOfTheBoxSolutions.com tmas...@obscorp.com 22108 Harper Ave. St. Clair Shores, MI 48080 Office: (800)750-4OBS (4627) Cell: (586)945-8796 -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
[BackupPC-users] Offsite copy
Hi Timothy, Thanks for your comments, unfortunately however I think you're missing my point. I very much like the way Backuppc handles backup, dedupe etc. and to use this on the local site to handle the backups of each individual client would be preferred, plus it gives the client an interface to browse backups and do restores. (One of the main reasons I want to use it) However for remote backups (eg offsite) I want to be able to have and rsync style snapshot of the most recent backup. I do not want to have to pull backups from my remote site to each individual server for this purpose because A) I'm already backing them up from the local site backup server and I don't want to back them up twice (more io/cpu and it'll take longer) These servers are production and heavily used with a lot of daily changes. Keep in mind that the backup server is used just for backups so it can spend the whole day getting thrashed for all I care. and to be honest that just seems silly and more than a solution. B) I don't like having multiple entry points . actually no other points are needed. Point A is enough reason not to do it. I already achieve my needs currently by simply using rsync for both local and remote but as mentioned earlier I want a more elegant solution and I like backuppc and how it handles the local backups. If there is no way of exposing the latest backup of each host from the backuppc server either via a fuse module (that works) or other means then my solution to either stick to my current solution. eg rsync but spend some time refining it. or use something like rdiff-backup or rsnapshot. rdiff-backup will allow me to see the most recent snapshot but has it's caveats/pitfalls/complexities. Rsnapshot will do everything I need but maybe not the most efficient on space. Of course there are other... Bandwidth, not a problem, I can limit/shape that several ways. +-- |This was sent by mem...@thehorvaths.co.uk via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Offsite copy
shorvath backuppc-fo...@backupcentral.com wrote: Hi Timothy, Thanks for your comments, unfortunately however I think you're missing my point. I very much like the way Backuppc handles backup, dedupe etc. and to use this on the local site to handle the backups of each individual client would be preferred, plus it gives the client an interface to browse backups and do restores. (One of the main reasons I want to use it) However for remote backups (eg offsite) I want to be able to have and rsync style snapshot of the most recent backup. I do not want to have to pull backups from my remote site to each individual server for this purpose because A) I'm already backing them up from the local site backup server and I don't want to back them up twice (more io/cpu and it'll take longer) These servers are production and heavily used with a lot of daily changes. Keep in mind that the backup server is used just for backups so it can spend the whole day getting thrashed for all I care. and to be honest that just seems silly and more than a solution. B) I don't like having multiple entry points . actually no other points are needed. Point A is enough reason not to do it. I already achieve my needs currently by simply using rsync for both local and remote but as mentioned earlier I want a more elegant solution and I like backuppc and how it handles the local backups. If there is no way of exposing the latest backup of each host from the backuppc server either via a fuse module (that works) or other means then my solution to either stick to my current solution. eg rsync but spend some time refining it. or use something like rdiff-backup or rsnapshot. rdiff-backup will allow me to see the most recent snapshot but has it's caveats/pitfalls/complexities. Rsnapshot will do everything I need but maybe not the most efficient on space. Of course there are other... Bandwidth, not a problem, I can limit/shape that several ways. I think the best solution that fits your currently stated requirements has already been given to you ... (for free). Simply setup a new host (this is the remote host where the offsite backup will live), configure it as rsync or rsyncd etc, and then use a cron job to trigger a restore of the most recent backup to this virtual host, in the path /some/path/hostname If you absolutely must pull this archive rather than pushing it, then setup this host as a virtual local host, it just means you end up with one additional copy of the locally backed up machines. Regards, Adam -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
