Re: [BackupPC-users] Is this software abandoned? Who is packager Bernard Johnson?

[David Cramblett]

I'm very familiar with GitHub. However, forking a "github repo" and forking
a "project" have different connotations.

David

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 12:41 AM, Kenneth Porter <sh...@sewingwitch.com>
wrote:

> On 6/6/2016 9:52 AM, David Cramblett wrote:
> > Not forking, just migrating to GitHUb. Craig will still be project
> > lead and maintain control. This is probably what you meant, just want
> > to be clear for others who may read this.
>
> It wasn't clear to me whether Craig would be returning.
>
> However, note that the git architecture naturally creates forks, if only
> short-lived ones. It allows us all to pick and choose patches from
> downstream repos to create our own custom version of a project. So if
> Craig gets busy and can't keep up with everyone's fixes, someone else
> can gather them in an independent repo. Much like the way there are many
> Linux kernels that share the same core code but focus on different
> objectives. This isn't a bad thing. Embrace it. Much like we enjoy
> "covers" of popular songs.
>
>
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Is this software abandoned? Who is packager Bernard Johnson?

[David Cramblett]

Not forking, just migrating to GitHUb. Craig will still be project lead and
maintain control. This is probably what you meant, just want to be clear
for others who may read this.

David

On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 12:43 PM, Kenneth Porter <sh...@sewingwitch.com>
wrote:

> Check the list archives. There's been a huge amount of activity recently
> on forking the project. Also check the -devel list archives.
>
> For Fedora, check Bugzilla to see who's the contact.
>
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Win 10 issue with NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME

[David Cramblett]

On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 9:54 AM, Michael Stowe <mst...@chicago.us.mensa.org>
wrote:

> On 2016-05-26 11:49, David Cramblett wrote:
> > Here is a link to ensuring administrative shares are enabled in
> > Windows 10:
> >
> https://tommynation.com/enable-remote-access-administrative-shares-windows-10/
> >
> > David
>
> C$ is an administrative share.
> C is not.
>
> I also note that this particular behavior did not change between W7 and
> W10, but changed after Windows XP.
>


Yes, I would recommend the hidden version c$. Also, the advanced sharing
configuration will help either way. Simple Sharing will typically be an
issue, I'm guessing that may be the change the occurred in the
upgrade/conversion to Windows 10.

David

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Win 10 issue with NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME

[David Cramblett]

Here is a link to ensuring administrative shares are enabled in Windows 10:
https://tommynation.com/enable-remote-access-administrative-shares-windows-10/

David

On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 4:57 AM, Michael Stowe <mst...@chicago.us.mensa.org>
wrote:

> On 2016-05-25 17:14, Jeff Boyce wrote:
> > Greetings -
> >
> >  I recently converted a Win7 box to a Win10 box.  Ever since this
> > change the Win10 box has failed to backup.  I have another Win7 box
> > with
> > the same configuration for BackupPC as the Win10 box, except a
> > different
> > user and password, and this Win7 box is still working. This indicates
> > to
> > me that there was some change in the networking stuff of Win10 that has
> > caused my problem, but I don't have a clue to what it might be.  I am
> > running BackupPC 3.3.1 on a CentOS 6 box, using SMB as the transfer
> > method.
> >
> > The config and error log for the broken Win10 box:
> > /etc/BackupPC/pc/rdr-lat6540.pl
> > $Conf{BackupFilesOnly} = {
> >'C' => [
> >  '\\users\\robynr\\AppData\\Local\\Microsoft\\Windows Live Mail'
> >]
> > };
> > $Conf{SmbSharePasswd} = '';
> > $Conf{SmbShareUserName} = 'robynr';
> > $Conf{SmbShareName} = [
> >'C'
> > ];
> >
> > Host name resolution works.  Bacteria is the BackupPC box.
> > [root@bacteria ~]# perl -e 'print(gethostbyname("rdr-lat6540") ? "ok/n"
> > : "not found/n");'
> > ok/n
> >
> > Abbreviated Error Log
> > 2016-05-25 14:12:36 full backup started for share C
> > 2016-05-25 14:12:38 Got fatal error during xfer (tree connect failed:
> > NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME)
> > 2016-05-25 14:12:43 Backup aborted (tree connect failed:
> > NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME)
> >
> > Detailed Error Log
> > Running: /usr/bin/smbclient rdr-lat6540\\C -U robynr -E -d 1 -c
> > tarmode\ full -Tc -
> > \\users\\robynr\\AppData\\Local\\Microsoft\\Windows\
> > Live\ Mail
> > full backup started for share C
> > Xfer PIDs are now 19313,19312
> > Domain=[RDR-LAT6540] OS=[Windows 10 Pro 10586] Server=[Windows 10 Pro
> > 6.3]
> > This backup will fail because: tree connect failed:
> > NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME
> > tree connect failed: NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME
> > Domain=[RDR-LAT6540] OS=[Windows 10 Pro 10586] Server=[Windows 10 Pro
> > 6.3]
> > tree connect failed: NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME
> > tarExtract: Done: 0 errors, 0 filesExist, 0 sizeExist, 0 sizeExistComp,
> > 0 filesTotal, 0 sizeTotal
> > Got fatal error during xfer (tree connect failed:
> > NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME)
> > Backup aborted (tree connect failed: NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME)
> > Not saving this as a partial backup since it has fewer files than the
> > prior one (got 0 and 0 files versus 0)
> >
> > I have been searching the mailing list archives and other sources
> > online
> > for 2 days to try and diagnose this.  The error messages don't seem
> > clear enough to me.  I have the exact same configuration on a Win7 box
> > that is working.  The only possibility that I see online is reference
> > to
> > the SMB protocols changing between Win7 and Win10 that has some issues
> > with network discovery, but nothing specific to BackupPC.  Is there
> > anyone that has BackupPC backing up Win10 clients that might be able to
> > shed some light on this?
> >
> > Please cc me directly as I only receive the daily digest of this list
> > (which is more like once every couple weeks).  Thanks.
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> > --
> >
> > Jeff Boyce
> > Meridian Environmental
>
> It must be said:  there are a lot of potential causes for
> NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME, so what solves one issue may not solve
> another.  However, I do recommend you start with the obvious thing that
> the error message is telling you, mainly that W10 does not have a share
> named C.
>
> Perhaps simple sharing is turned on, perhaps the share name has been
> transliterated to something else.  You might want to try the
> troubleshooting step of listing the actual share names:
>
> /usr/bin/smbclient -L //rdr-lat6540
>
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Copyright protection

[David Cramblett]

On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 1:11 PM, Stefan Peter 
wrote:

>
> There have been mentions of the infamous SCO trials. But there, the
> situation is different: SCO claims that vast amounts of their code has
> been lifted and transplanted in to the Linux kernel. And such claims can
> be made by anyone, against any project. This is just lawyers having a
> blast and investors gambling.
>

Yes, understood. We're just using SCO as the example that anyone (or any
company) can sue someone, even with little or no merit.


> I feel that this whole discussion is pointless and a real time sink. All
> the effort going into this discussion would better be spent by working
> on BackupPC and the infrastructure to support it. All I wanted to say is
> that CDAs may not be legally possible for all contributors and that it
> would require some institution which may have to be tightly controlled
> in order to mitigate the risk of loosing the control over the project.
>

Time sink yes. Pointless, maybe not.
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Copyright protection

[David Cramblett]

I think it's more the general idea of this situation is common. My employer
uses BackupPC as well, and much of my work would be on company time -
although I work for a government agency. So not necessarily singling you
out, just the situation your in. I think it's a common situation.

David

On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 11:10 AM, Richard Alloway <rallo...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Wow!  I'm totally surprised by how much discussion my possible
> contributions (because they would be on work time) have launched!
>
> Is anyone in a position to discuss this with representatives of my
> employer?  Just a discussion of discovery for both sides...
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Rich
>
>
> -
> He's just this guy... ya know?!
> -----
>
> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 1:03 PM, David Cramblett <
> da...@functionalchaos.net> wrote:
>
>> Exactly. Nothing you can do to prevent baseless lawsuits, only make the
>> case against them harder and hopefully not worth the financial risk.
>>
>> SCO is probably the best example of the worst case scenario from a
>> financial perspective. As you say, BackupPC doesn't have a value that would
>> make it worthwhile target.
>>
>> David
>>
>> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 9:37 AM, Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom <
>> chr...@real-time.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 05/20 01:18 , Stefan Peter wrote:
>>> > The worst that can happen is that the new copyright holder wants to
>>> > retrieve his contribution. So you remove the individuals code and
>>> > replace it with independent, fresh code from another contributor. But I
>>> > have never heard of an event like this and I'm not sure if it actually
>>> > is possible to retract a license. And whatever company actually would
>>> > try to get off a stunt like this would probably be taken to the
>>> internet
>>> > sponger so fast they would not survive it.
>>>
>>> The experience with Linux and SCO serves as something of a cautionary
>>> tale.
>>> Even if the cause is groundless, there's a lot of hassle possible when
>>> someone decides you're a worthwhile target.
>>>
>>> OTOH, if BackupPC (however you define it) has no money, there's really
>>> not
>>> much reason for lawyers to go after it. So this risk becomes more of an
>>> issue if/when BPC becomes 'successful'.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Carl Soderstrom
>>> Systems Administrator
>>> Real-Time Enterprises
>>> www.real-time.com
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>>
>>
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>>
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Copyright protection

[David Cramblett]

Yeah, nothing I've suggested was in regards to recommending a license
change. That's the exact thing I would want to avoid. The goal from my
perspective is to protect all the work Craig has done, while allowing for
outside contributions without fear that someone could do something evil
down the road. My last point was if the GPL alone is sufficient for the
scenario we were discussing with employees of companies making
contributions, perfect!  If not, what else can/should be done?

David

On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 5:50 PM, Stefan Peter <s_pe...@swissonline.ch>
wrote:

> Dear David Cramblett
>
> On 20.05.2016 01:28, David Cramblett wrote:
> > Stefan - Based on all this discussion, is your recommendation the GPL
> > lic alone is enough, and we don't need anything additional?
>
> The license is given, more or less. If Craig and the other contributors
> do not agree to a license change, there is nothing anyone else can do.
> But I do not see any reason to change the license, so I'd suggest to
> forget the whole license discussion for now.
>
> A contributor agreement, roughly cut along the one of the Linux Kernel
> would be the next item on my wish list.
>
>
> In order to become a mature, well functioning open source project, there
> are a lot of other requirements, as you well may know. Bit I'm to tired
> right now to go into details, I might miss something crucial.
>
>
> >
> >
> > All - Does anyone know what the situation is with this Zamanda site
> > http://backuppc.com/ ?
>
> I have no idea, why don't you contact them and ask? But be polite, they
> actually may be the driving force behind the resurrection of the
> BackupPC development, just using their private eMail instead of a
> @zamanda one.
>
> Another issue may be backupcentral.com. They feed our mailing list into
> their forum (probably displaying adds and monetizing on that, but I
> could not be bothered to have a closer look) and the quality of input
> this mailing list gets from them "leaves something to be desired"
> normally. I do not remember any constructive input from their site, but
> I may be wrong, as usual. But this situation opens the question for me:
> What shall we do with pilot fish?
>
> With kind regards
>
> Stefan Peter
>
> --
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> Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
> A: Top-posting.
> Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
> (See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style for details)
>
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Copyright protection

[David Cramblett]

Stefan - Based on all this discussion, is your recommendation the GPL lic
alone is enough, and we don't need anything additional?


All - Does anyone know what the situation is with this Zamanda site
http://backuppc.com/ ?

David



On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 4:18 PM, Stefan Peter <s_pe...@swissonline.ch>
wrote:

> Dear David Cramblett
>
> On 19.05.2016 23:59, David Cramblett wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Stefan Peter <s_pe...@swissonline.ch
> > <mailto:s_pe...@swissonline.ch>> wrote:
> >
> > On 19.05.2016 19:01, David Cramblett wrote:
> > > Yeah, or "CofO", or "Sign-Off", or whatever term folks feel the
> most
> > > comfortable with. It doesn't have to be "CLA", it could be
> whatever make
> > > since. Just something protecting the project from the unlikely
> "evil
> > > company scenario".
> >
> > Sorry, but I seem to have missed something. What "evil company"
> scenario
> > exactly do you talk about?
> >
> >
> > We're talking about a scenario where an individual submits code to the
> > project while working for "abc company", who later says they own the
> > copyright of the code and not the individual.
>
> So what? In order to "capture" the project and make it their own, they
> would have to get the consent of all other copyright holders
> (contributors). Unless you actually introduce this CLA and the "enemy"
> company manages to get hold of it, you have nothing to fear.
>
> The worst that can happen is that the new copyright holder wants to
> retrieve his contribution. So you remove the individuals code and
> replace it with independent, fresh code from another contributor. But I
> have never heard of an event like this and I'm not sure if it actually
> is possible to retract a license. And whatever company actually would
> try to get off a stunt like this would probably be taken to the internet
> sponger so fast they would not survive it.
>
>
> With kind regards
>
> Stefan Peter
>
> --
> --
> A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
> Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
> A: Top-posting.
> Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
> (See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style for details)
>



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Re: [BackupPC-users] Copyright protection

[David Cramblett]

On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Stefan Peter <s_pe...@swissonline.ch>
wrote:

> On 19.05.2016 19:01, David Cramblett wrote:
> > Yeah, or "CofO", or "Sign-Off", or whatever term folks feel the most
> > comfortable with. It doesn't have to be "CLA", it could be whatever make
> > since. Just something protecting the project from the unlikely "evil
> > company scenario".
>
> Sorry, but I seem to have missed something. What "evil company" scenario
> exactly do you talk about?
>

We're talking about a scenario where an individual submits code to the
project while working for "abc company", who later says they own the
copyright of the code and not the individual.

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Copyright protection

[David Cramblett]

Yeah, or "CofO", or "Sign-Off", or whatever term folks feel the most
comfortable with. It doesn't have to be "CLA", it could be whatever make
since. Just something protecting the project from the unlikely "evil
company scenario".

David

On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 9:52 AM, Kris Lou <k...@themusiclink.net> wrote:

> How about making the above explanation in a "How to contribute to BackupPC
> development", and requiring a short note in the pull request?  Something as
> simple as "CLA:agreed"?
>
> Kris
>
>
> Kris Lou
> k...@themusiclink.net
>
> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 9:37 AM, David Cramblett <
> da...@functionalchaos.net> wrote:
>
>> Yes. I think there may be too much emphasis on the term CLA. We could
>> refer to the language under whatever term makes the most since. It can be a
>> simple as possible and you wouldn't necessarily have to require it with
>> each patch submission. It could be in a Contributing document within the
>> project, on the wiki, or ?.
>>
>> David
>>
>> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 7:09 AM, Iain Hallam <i...@nineworlds.net> wrote:
>>
>>> The contributor certificate of origin from the Linux process linked
>>> earlier in the thread seems sensible and a basic level for what would
>>> be needed. They require a shorthand at the end of every patch which
>>> signifies that the contributor is asserting the contents of the
>>> certificate:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/Documentation/SubmittingPatches?id=HEAD#n409
>>>
>>> It affirms that the code can be contributed to an open-source project
>>> and that the sign-off will be public. Real names must be used with an
>>> email address.
>>>
>>> - Iain.
>>>
>>> On 19 May 2016 at 14:20, Rob Owens <row...@ptd.net> wrote:
>>> > - Original Message -
>>> >> From: "Mauro Condarelli" <mc5...@mclink.it>
>>> >
>>> >> Hi,
>>> >> please note a this spawned from something Richard Alloway wrote:
>>> >>> If I can get approval to do any of this on work's dime (which I
>>> think I can do,
>>> >>> since contributing to Open Source projects is part of my job), I
>>> should be able
>>> >>> to get a little of 5:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> 5) Time
>>> >> As I read it this means Richard's employer will explicitly pay for
>>> contributions
>>> >> to BackupPC.
>>> >>
>>> >> My concern is said employer may, perhaps in a distant future,
>>> possibly after
>>> >> being sold to some Evil Empire, decide they still "own" those patches
>>> and
>>> >> prevent us from redistributing anything which includes them.
>>> >> This is the problem we should address (if it exists).
>>> >>
>>> >> I do not want to open possibility for anyone to make BackupPC
>>> proprietary (I
>>> >> know what Rob depicts has happened in the past and will happen
>>> again), this
>>> >> should be explicitly forbidden in whatever solution we finally chose.
>>> >>
>>> >> Initial question remains: "Should we be concerned"?
>>> >> This might be sheer paranoia, but I'm to ignorant in the subject to
>>> discern it.
>>> >> If someone has a positive answer please elaborate.
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> > My "I'm not a lawyer" opinion is that if the code is GPL, then we
>>> really don't
>>> > need anything more.  Contributions/patches must then be GPL.  The
>>> angry employer
>>> > scenario is a possibility I suppose.  Maybe each contributor must
>>> sign/swear that
>>> > the code is his to give away?  Then if an employer raises a stink,
>>> would the
>>> > issue be the contributor's problem and not ours?  Maybe, but I kind of
>>> doubt it.
>>> > It may be a waste of time to try to prepare for this scenario.
>>> >
>>> > The chances of an angry employer scenario are significantly reduced,
>>> in my
>>> > opinion, if BackupPC remains a non-commercial project.
>>> >
>>> > -Rob
>>> >
>>> >
>>> --
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Copyright protection

[David Cramblett]

Yes. I think there may be too much emphasis on the term CLA. We could refer
to the language under whatever term makes the most since. It can be a
simple as possible and you wouldn't necessarily have to require it with
each patch submission. It could be in a Contributing document within the
project, on the wiki, or ?.

David

On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 7:09 AM, Iain Hallam <i...@nineworlds.net> wrote:

> The contributor certificate of origin from the Linux process linked
> earlier in the thread seems sensible and a basic level for what would
> be needed. They require a shorthand at the end of every patch which
> signifies that the contributor is asserting the contents of the
> certificate:
>
>
> http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/Documentation/SubmittingPatches?id=HEAD#n409
>
> It affirms that the code can be contributed to an open-source project
> and that the sign-off will be public. Real names must be used with an
> email address.
>
> - Iain.
>
> On 19 May 2016 at 14:20, Rob Owens <row...@ptd.net> wrote:
> > - Original Message -
> >> From: "Mauro Condarelli" <mc5...@mclink.it>
> >
> >> Hi,
> >> please note a this spawned from something Richard Alloway wrote:
> >>> If I can get approval to do any of this on work's dime (which I think
> I can do,
> >>> since contributing to Open Source projects is part of my job), I
> should be able
> >>> to get a little of 5:
> >>>
> >>> 5) Time
> >> As I read it this means Richard's employer will explicitly pay for
> contributions
> >> to BackupPC.
> >>
> >> My concern is said employer may, perhaps in a distant future, possibly
> after
> >> being sold to some Evil Empire, decide they still "own" those patches
> and
> >> prevent us from redistributing anything which includes them.
> >> This is the problem we should address (if it exists).
> >>
> >> I do not want to open possibility for anyone to make BackupPC
> proprietary (I
> >> know what Rob depicts has happened in the past and will happen again),
> this
> >> should be explicitly forbidden in whatever solution we finally chose.
> >>
> >> Initial question remains: "Should we be concerned"?
> >> This might be sheer paranoia, but I'm to ignorant in the subject to
> discern it.
> >> If someone has a positive answer please elaborate.
> >>
> >
> > My "I'm not a lawyer" opinion is that if the code is GPL, then we really
> don't
> > need anything more.  Contributions/patches must then be GPL.  The angry
> employer
> > scenario is a possibility I suppose.  Maybe each contributor must
> sign/swear that
> > the code is his to give away?  Then if an employer raises a stink, would
> the
> > issue be the contributor's problem and not ours?  Maybe, but I kind of
> doubt it.
> > It may be a waste of time to try to prepare for this scenario.
> >
> > The chances of an angry employer scenario are significantly reduced, in
> my
> > opinion, if BackupPC remains a non-commercial project.
> >
> > -Rob
> >
> >
> --
> > Mobile security can be enabling, not merely restricting. Employees who
> > bring their own devices (BYOD) to work are irked by the imposition of MDM
> > restrictions. Mobile Device Manager Plus allows you to control only the
> > apps on BYO-devices by containerizing them, leaving personal data
> untouched!
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> > Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net
> > Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
>
>
>
> --
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> http://www.iainhallam.com/
>
>
> --
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> bring their own devices (BYOD) to work are irked by the imposition of MDM
> restrictions. Mobile Device Manager Plus allows you to control only the
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Copyright protection

[David Cramblett]

If you read this (from Linux kernel link provided):

 (d) I understand and agree that this project and the contribution
are public and that a record of the contribution (including all
personal information I submit with it, including my sign-off) is
maintained indefinitely and may be redistributed consistent with
this project or the open source license(s) involved.


It's kind of splitting hairs to say they don't require CLA, "it's a
Certificate of Origin". It's essentially accomplishing the same goal. The
developer is agreeing that the patch belongs to the project and may be
redistributed indefinitely.

I'm not particularly concerned one way or the other. If any evil person or
company tries to convert a useful OSS project into a pay-for software (or
do other disruptive things), the community is going to fork the project and
move on, e.g. LibreOffice, MariaDB, etc.

However, almost all major OSS projects have some type of language in an
*Agreement*, no matter the name it's refereed to, that the submissions
belong to the project with redistribution rights indefinitely. The linux
kernel goes the furthest (which I would not recommend for this project) as
to require an *assertion* with each patch submission. Any OSS license
essentially provides similar requirements, yet these projects are still
requiring this or a similar assertion.

Again, I'm not particularly concerned one way or the other.

David

On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 11:37 PM, Stefan Peter <s_pe...@swissonline.ch>
wrote:

> Dear David Cramblett,
> Am 18.05.2016 um 18:45 schrieb David Cramblett:
> > I think most GPL projects still use a CLA to help protect the project in
> > the case of future litigation. The Linux Kernel for example is GPL v2,
> > but still requires CLA language appended to each patch submission.
>
> This is simply wrong: The Linux Kernel does _not_ require a CLA. But it
> requires a Certificate of Origin, also known as Signed-off-by. See
>
> http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/Documentation/SubmittingPatches?id=HEAD
> for details.
>
> Additionally, there are countries where you can not legally transfer
> your copyright to someone else unless you have been hired to do the work
> in question. This would mean that Backuppc would either have to hire the
> contributors or reject their contributions in order to make sure the CLA
> is effective.
>
> With kind regards
>
> Stefan Peter
>
>
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[BackupPC-users] Message from Craig

[David Cramblett]

Hi All,

I just posted an email response from Craig (BackupPC creator) on the
development mail list.

I thought I should post it here as well. I promise, last message from me on
the user list in regards to this topic.  : )

--

David & team,

Thanks for reaching out and gathering interested parties.

Yes, as Stephen passed along, unfortunately my day job has kept me really
busy over the last couple of years.  So I simply haven't had any time to
devote to BackupPC, and I haven't even had time to keep up with the mail
lists either.  Most of 4.0 development happened when I was able to take a
few months off between jobs in 2013.

It would be great to get help in moving things forward again.  Having some
people contribute in various areas would definitely help, and motivate me
to find some time to work on it again.  The current 4.0 is generally pretty
stable and works well (albeit I haven't been watching the mail list).  As
you noted, FTP is the one area that's not finished.  The original FTP code
was contributed and it has some significant issues.  I suspect FTP is
rarely used - we could simply drop it for 4.0, or I can revisit my latest
code (not yet checked in) to see how much more there is to do?

So, yes, help with the project would be great.

Amazingly, I've never used github - just goes to show how out of touch I've
become :(.  But I agree moving all the development to github makes sense.
Actually, it looks like that's started to happen, eg:
https://github.com/backuppc.  That looks like 3.x, while rsync-bpc and
backuppc-xs are 4.x.  Maybe we should have backuppc3 for 3.x, and backuppc
is 4.x?

In terms of contributions, all kinds can be very helpful (feel free to
augment this and repost to the user or developer lists if you want):

   - perusing the mail lists and finding bug reports that can be concisely
   documented and/or replicated. There are also feature requests that are
   worth keeping track of.  I last did this over the xmas holidays in 2014/15,
   which led to the last release of 3.3.1 in Jan 2015.  So I'm almost 1.5
   years behind on doing this, and as more time goes by I feel like I need
   even more time to catch up
   - actually fixing and patching bugs
   - testing (given the big user base, it became more nerve wracking doing
   new releases given how little time I had left to do testing...)
   - releases (actually generating releases, posting announcements etc)
   - writing code for new releases and features (mainly perl, but 4.0 has
   significant portions of C code)
   - updating rsync-bpc to be based on the most recent rsync; can be done
   mostly by applying diffs, but some hand work required, especially if rsync
   has changed a lot.
   - refreshing cygwin-rsyncd for 3.x users
   - wiki needs a complete restart (somewhere I have tarballs of the old
   wiki, but it was relatively disorganized)
   - documentation
   - user support (there's been a great group of people selflessly
   providing user support, which has been one of the most important parts of
   the project's success, and one of the main things that kept me motivated to
   keep working on the project)

The more people can do the better!  I'd be happy to try to commit the time
to finish off 4.0 (help there would be great; even just testing help), and
I would definitely be interested in reviewing patches and other code
submissions (eg: for every release I carefully look at the diffs from the
prior release).

Craig

On Tue, 17 May 2016, David Cramblett wrote:

Craig,
>
> I'm writing to you on behalf of the active users of the BackupPC mailing
> list. We have been tossing around the idea of helping out with the BackupPC
> project for the last year or so. In the recent days, critical mass has
> finally been achieved and we have some volunteers stepping up.
>
> We have been discussing how we could help and what's needed to keep
> BackupPC supported with future operating system updates, third party
> software
> libraries, etc. As well as getting v4 out of beta, it works quite well
> (and I have seen a very nice performance boost!).
>
> However, we're all in agreement, the first order of business was to reach
> out to you and see if you're even interested in the help?
>
> Stephen Joyce shared with us that he had communicated with you recently
> offering some help. Stephen said you had let him know you were still very
> interested in your project, but that time was tight right now with other
> obligations. He also said he has access to the BackupPC SF site and was
> hoping to apply some patches he was aware of, and do something about the
> wiki being shut down by SF. He also let us know that you were holding off
> on v4 mostly due to an implementation of the FTP client.
>
> With all that in mind:
>
> 1) Are you interested in some assistance with the BackupPC project?
>
> 2) If yes. We were also inte

Re: [BackupPC-users] Status on new BackupPC v4

[David Cramblett]

Hey Les,

Travis-CI is just the integration point, it runs in the cloud, not on a
client machine. The actual tests would be some perl testing framework,
whatever is chosen, and those tests could be launched locally by the
developers as well. Ideally the test-running would be built into the code
base, but you could get a little creative and run them however worked best
for your processes.

Travis-CI will get kicked off whenever someone submits new code to GitHub,
and would run on a VM in the cloud (provided by Travis-CI) for free. Travis
will run whatever testing framework is configured for the project and then
report the results right on github.

I have used Jenkins, it's a nice tool and has been used by many projects.
However, the Travis-CI integration into GitHub just makes it hard to beat.
Many of the projects Lars mentioned used to use Jenkins and have since
switched to Travis due to it's capabilities.

David

On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 10:13 AM, Les Mikesell <lesmikes...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 11:58 AM, David Cramblett
> <da...@functionalchaos.net> wrote:
> > Another options is travis-ci which has great integration with GitHub.
> > Basicly we can configure the project so that when a user makes a pull
> > request (submits a patch), tests are run automatically. Every person (not
> > just admins) can see right on the pull request page if the tests passed
> or
> > failed. Also, there are code coverage tools that will state if the code
> > testing coverage has decreased or increased with the patch submitted.
>
> I haven't used travis so I can't compare them, but I don't see
> anything about it running on windows.  Jenkins can run in
> client/server mode where an agent runs on an assortment of different
> client machines (basically anything that runs java) to
> build/test/automate across a set of different platforms or do things
> that require a set of different operations done in parallel or
> sequenced across different machines.  I never ran it against github
> but with its large user base and set of plugins I'd expect that to be
> a common setup.
>
> --
>Les Mikesell
>  lesmikes...@gmail.com
>
>
> --
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> bring their own devices (BYOD) to work are irked by the imposition of MDM
> restrictions. Mobile Device Manager Plus allows you to control only the
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Status on new BackupPC v4

[David Cramblett]

Another options is travis-ci which has great integration with GitHub.
Basicly we can configure the project so that when a user makes a pull
request (submits a patch), tests are run automatically. Every person (not
just admins) can see right on the pull request page if the tests passed or
failed. Also, there are code coverage tools that will state if the code
testing coverage has decreased or increased with the patch submitted.

Take a look at this example to see what I'm talking about:
https://github.com/selectize/selectize.js/pull/820

David

On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 9:50 AM, Les Mikesell <lesmikes...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 11:16 AM, Richard Alloway <rallo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I do have some lab resources available to me for standing up and tearing
> > down VMs of various OS flavors.
> > The resources are not limitless, but more than I have on my personal
> > machines.
> >
> > We've been using puppet and ansible for some of our internal test
> > automation.  One or both may be candidates for automated testing of
> > BackupPC.
>
> You might want to look at jenkins to manage the automation.  It is
> java and might be overkill, but it is pretty great at cross-platform
> operations.  It can be triggered by changes in your source control
> system and can collate results from different runs in one place for
> you.  There are plugins for all sorts of build/test/publish scenarios
> if you need them.
>
> --
>Les Mikesell
>  lesmikes...@gmail.com
>
>
> --
> Mobile security can be enabling, not merely restricting. Employees who
> bring their own devices (BYOD) to work are irked by the imposition of MDM
> restrictions. Mobile Device Manager Plus allows you to control only the
> apps on BYO-devices by containerizing them, leaving personal data
> untouched!
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Copyright protection

[David Cramblett]

I think most GPL projects still use a CLA to help protect the project in
the case of future litigation. The Linux Kernel for example is GPL v2, but
still requires CLA language appended to each patch submission. Other
projects just have the developer submit a signed CLA a single time when
they make their first contribution to the project.

The CLA is not so much an attempt to state the the patch is using the same
license as the project, it's more to say the copyright belongs to the
project owner (Craig in this case), and not the developer who wrote the
patch.

David

On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 9:31 AM, Les Mikesell <lesmikes...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 11:02 AM, Mauro Condarelli <mc5...@mclink.it>
> wrote:
> > Hi Everybody,
> > it occurred to me there may be legal pitfalls (particularly in the
> States, but not only) concerning "Intellectual Property" of any
> contribution.
> >
> > I know several organizations (e.g.: Eclipse) require a declaration from
> each contributor stating:
> > 1) he is transferring Copyright of each and all patches to the Project.
> > 2) no other party (i.e.: his employer) has any claim on his
> contributions.
> > I know because I had to go into some loops to have some contributions
> accepted.
> >
> > Should we be concerned?
> > I know *noting* about USA Copyright laws (aside from the fact they're
> making many "attorneys" rich).
> > Is there someone knowledgeable here on the list?
> > Should we seek advice? (where? github? FSF?)
> >
> > We should fix this ASAP, before the coder base enlarges.
> >
> > Please give advice.
>
>
> Since the initial license is GPL v2, the only restriction is that any
> changes/additions must also be GPL or compatible (include source and
> not add additional restrictions).  In some cases projects add a
> requirement to transfer ownership of contributions to the official
> version so that someone would have the authority to change the license
> on future versions if desired - but it may already be too late for
> that.
>
> --
>Les Mikesell
>  lesmikes...@gmail.com
>
>
> --
> Mobile security can be enabling, not merely restricting. Employees who
> bring their own devices (BYOD) to work are irked by the imposition of MDM
> restrictions. Mobile Device Manager Plus allows you to control only the
> apps on BYO-devices by containerizing them, leaving personal data
> untouched!
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Copyright protection

[David Cramblett]

Your right about this. Most projects have a "Contributor's Agreement". We
should look at some examples from popular projects and maybe just copy it
with a few changes where appropriate.

Starting Point: http://oss-watch.ac.uk/resources/cla

David

On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 9:02 AM, Mauro Condarelli <mc5...@mclink.it> wrote:

> Hi Everybody,
> it occurred to me there may be legal pitfalls (particularly in the States,
> but not only) concerning "Intellectual Property" of any contribution.
>
> I know several organizations (e.g.: Eclipse) require a declaration from
> each contributor stating:
> 1) he is transferring Copyright of each and all patches to the Project.
> 2) no other party (i.e.: his employer) has any claim on his contributions.
> I know because I had to go into some loops to have some contributions
> accepted.
>
> Should we be concerned?
> I know *noting* about USA Copyright laws (aside from the fact they're
> making many "attorneys" rich).
> Is there someone knowledgeable here on the list?
> Should we seek advice? (where? github? FSF?)
>
> We should fix this ASAP, before the coder base enlarges.
>
> Please give advice.
>
> Regards
> Mauro
>
>
> --
> Mobile security can be enabling, not merely restricting. Employees who
> bring their own devices (BYOD) to work are irked by the imposition of MDM
> restrictions. Mobile Device Manager Plus allows you to control only the
> apps on BYO-devices by containerizing them, leaving personal data
> untouched!
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Fatal Error during Samba backup

[David Cramblett]

What version of Samba are you using? There is an issue in regards to newer
versions of samba having different verbose output then samba has had in the
past. BackupPC doesn't get some information it's expecting causing it to
think there is a problem. More details from an earlier email thread here:

https://sourceforge.net/p/backuppc/mailman/message/34770512/

David



On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 9:22 AM, David Williams <
dwilli...@dtw-consulting.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am still getting this issue daily.  Can anyone provide any ideas as to
> what is happening or how I can hunt down the exact error?
>
> Regards,
> --
> *Dave Williams *
> Senior Oracle MDM & Financials Consultant
>
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "David Williams" <dwilli...@dtw-consulting.com>
> To: "backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net" <
> backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Sent: 5/13/2016 12:23:20
> Subject: [BackupPC-users] Fatal Error during Samba backup
>
>
> Having some issues trying to backup a Samba share and trying to determine
> just what exactly the error is.  From what I can see from the error log it
> has gotten all the way to the end of this particular share and then the
> error message below, without too much detail that I can see.
>
> The command being executed is:
>
> /usr/bin/smbclient dwlaptop\\DTW-Consulting -I 192.168.15.82 -U dwilliams 
> -E -d 1 -c tarmode\ full -Tc
>
> The end of the error log file:
>
> tarExtract: Done: 0 errors, 11777 filesExist, 15089174042 sizeExist, 
> 12314421307 sizeExistComp, 11811 filesTotal, 15233442674 sizeTotal
> Got fatal error during xfer (No files dumped for share DTW-Consulting)
> Backup aborted (No files dumped for share DTW-Consulting
>
>
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Re: [BackupPC-users] github setup

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I think security and reliability of the code are worth waiting a few extra
days (weeks) on a release when maintainers are busy.

I want to add, one of the great things about github is how easy it is to
create your own local fork and work of it as needed. Users can also re-sync
their fork with the "upstream" (main backuppc) project very easily. If
anyone has certain patches that are too specific to be useful for the main
backuppc project, or they think the maintainers are too slow, they can
always use their own fork and pull in whatever they want.

David

On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 8:57 AM, Mauro Condarelli <mc5...@mclink.it> wrote:

> Hi Adam,
> comments inline.
>
>
> Il 16/05/2016 17:24, Adam Goryachev ha scritto:
> > Thank you for taking the time to explain, but it doesn't (well,
> > partially) explain how to solve my "concern". We ideally want a larger
> > number of "maintainers" available to share the burden of developing
> > backuppc, and allowing the survival of backuppc when a couple of people
> > are too busy for extended periods of time. Consider if we have 3
> > maintainers, and one moves job, another is simply swamped with
> > work/family, and one is not really a developer, and gets bored of
> > working on backuppc. We need to actively maintain this group of
> > maintainers, and ensure there is always enough to allow someone else to
> > be added, and to remove the old maintainers that can be confirmed as no
> > longer interested.
> This can be done easily by controlling the "Teams" in github.
> You may have different teams with different capabilities, including the
> possibility
> to alter team member list.
>
> > So, lets say we now have 20 maintainers. One of those happens to be ...
> > accidentally dangerous. They follow the work flow, sending their pull
> > request, but since they are also a maintainer, then they immediately
> > accept the request, and it is committed to the main backuppc repo. Every
> > user after this point now ends up with a system that is corrupting 0.1%
> > of files backed up. It might take years before this is noticed and
> > tracked back to the original commit. Consider how that could be
> > different if the maintainer had the intent to cause damage (without
> > notice) or to steal information if ($domainname="cia.gov") {
> send_secrets }
> You need to balance between security and ease of use.
> In the States, in spite of huge resources of "cia.gov", they have
> "automatic declassification"
> due to the burden to handle "top secrets" for extended periods of time.
>
> > So, I feel that we would like to enforce some peer review. Perhaps the
> > solution is to require 2 maintainers to approve a patch, but I fear that
> > increases the workload/makes the process more fragile.
> If You want peer-review we could move to the "patchwork" infrastructure,
> and retain
> the ML as primary mean, but even there I'm not aware of any way to enforce
> multiple
> approval, it just makes it possible and traceable.
>
> In general, in any unix-like system, there will be someone with "root"
> access and stopping
> him is very difficult ;)
> Having many persons with commit privilege (root-like PW) is good for
> redundancy, but
> increases risk of lockout. Craig, very evidently, leaned toward security,
> let's avoid doing the
> mirror mistake.
> This is obviously different from having strong identification to keep out
> unwanted people.
>
> > Ultimately, perhaps I'm being silly, and just seeing demons where none
> > exist. I'm sure many open source projects would have similar issues, and
> > have solved them.
> This might be, but "better safe than sorry".
>
> >
> > Regards,
> > Adam
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Re: [BackupPC-users] github setup (was: Status on new BackupPC v4)

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d potentially submit and commit a patch to
> > undo the "erroneous" commit, but not the same as preventing the wrong
> > commit in the first place.
> >
> > Ideally, anyone can submit a patch
> > Ideally, any "approved" person can commit a patch, as long as it isn't
> > their own
> >
> > Could that be done?
> >
> > PS, I think I forgot to include my github account name "adamgoryachev",
> > I can't promise to be terribly helpful, but I do try from time to time.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Adam
> >
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Status on new BackupPC v4

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If the group was interested in GitHub, then services/platform for items 1 -
4 would be available for free with good tools. Also, GitHub is somewhat of
an industry standard for open source projects now. It also allows for easy
patching from interested parties via pull request, forking for those who
need a custom version for their special situation, etc.

On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Mauro Condarelli  wrote:

> IMHO we need (at least):
>
>  1. maintained web site
>  2. online documentation
>  3. online bugtracking / wishlist
>  4. source repository
>  5. steering committee (managing releases)
>  6. IRC channel (or equivalent)
>
>
I think if one person (or persons) could step up and take a lead on this,
others like myself would be willing to pitch in. Even if your not a perl
expert (I'm certainly not), if you have some spare time to dedicate to
managing the project each week, others could be delegated to for specific
technical tasks.

I have been using BackupPC for at least 12-14 years, I can't remember when
I started using it for certain. Currently using BackupPC v3 where I'm
employed, and then I use BackupPC v4 at home. I would really like to see
another source tree setup that we all can support. I'm a software engineer,
but I also teach classes at the local community college, do contract work,
and have three busy teenagers. I don't have the time to lead, but would
gladly follow someone(s) who has the best intentions for the community.

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Issue with samba client 4.1.6 and newer

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I found in my testing that you don't want that backslash before "verbose".

What you have specified:

Running: /bin/smbclient \\host\share -U username -E -d 1 -c tarmode full
\verbose -Tc -

What I found I needed with BackupPC v4 (should be same with 3)

Running: /bin/smbclient \\host\share -U username -E -d 1 -c tarmode full
verbose -Tc -


Here is what I changed my backuppc config.pl to look like:

$Conf{SmbClientFullCmd} = '$smbClientPath $host\\$shareName $I_option
-U $userName -E -d 1 -c tarmode\\ full\\ verbose -Tc$X_option - $fileList';

I also updated the SMB  incremental and restore commands.

David


On Sun, Dec 27, 2015 at 10:29 AM, pasci <backuppc-fo...@backupcentral.com>
wrote:

> By the way:
>
> Your tarmode string is wrong! The first space of the tarmode option is not
> escaped:
>
> Currently:
> Running: /bin/smbclient \\hayun-13\GIS -I 192.168.1.75 -U arava\adir -E -d
> 1 -c tarmode full \verbose -TcrX - ortho DEM
>
> But should by:
> Running: /bin/smbclient \\hayun-13\GIS -I 192.168.1.75 -U arava\adir -E -d
> 1 -c tarmode\ full \verbose -TcrX - ortho DEM
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Issue with samba client 4.1.6 and newer

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Fatal error (bad version): /sbin/nologin: invalid option

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On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 6:34 AM, fujisan <backuppc-fo...@backupcentral.com>
wrote:

> Well, when i do
>
> su backuppc
>
> it says
>
> This account is currently not available.
>
> But that's normal because the shell is set to /sbin/nologin.
>
> Fuji
>


That's probably a smart configuration to protect the backuppc user. If you
need to set up SSH keys or perform other maintenance as the backuppc user,
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Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC v4 running fsck all the time

[David Cramblett]

I'm not certain, but I don't think my centos based v4 system is doing this.
Do the fsck show in the log?

I will investigate when I get back to my computer.

David

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On Sep 21, 2015 10:48 AM, "Jimmy" <mupper...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> It seems that BackupPC v4 runs fsck each time it does a backup, both incr
> or full. After an actual backup, it would run fsck on all the backups that
> it has for the host.
>
> For example, host "pc1" has backup #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, and the new
> backup created #8. After BackupPC created backup #8, it would run fsck on
> #1, then on to #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8 before it goes to "idle".
>
> And when it runs again the next time to create backup #9, it would then
> run fsck all over again for all the backups (#1 - #9).
>
> This makes each backup run for every host to take a very long time to
> finish and sometimes it takes longer than 24 hours to complete the whole
> fsck cycle against all the backups.
>
> As a result, the backup lags behind and instead of a daily backup, I get
> backups that have gaps, be it a 1 day gap or 2+ day gap.
>
> This is an issue for computers with a large number of files + a big total
> size of data.
>
> Is this a normal behaviour? Is there something that can be done to improve
> this situation so that I have no gaps in my backups?
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Advice, please

[David Cramblett]

The project is very mature (I've been using for over 12 years), so constant
updates aren't really needed.

Either option is fine, depending on whether or not your okay with running
an alpha build. Several people are using the 4.0 alpha build and having
great success. Setting up the 4.0 alpha seems to be a little more work for
some. If your newer to linux, then the 3.3 stable version may be easier to
get installed. I'm a linux sysadmin and found installing the 4.0 alpha
quite easy. However, there were several things I had to work around that
may be harder for someone with less experience.

David

On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 10:39 AM, Mauro Condarelli mc5...@mclink.it wrote:

 Hi all,
 For a new installation what's advised? backuppc-3.3.1 or the older (and
 seemingly unmaintained) 4.0.0alpha3 ?
 Project doesn't look very active and that's areal shame because I think it
 has some very strong points.
 I plan to produce a dockerized version for use on synology NAS.
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Re: [BackupPC-users] help installing BackupPC4.0.0alpha3.tar.gz

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That is a function call I added to my init script that runs the following
commands:

# mkdir -p /var/run/BackupPC

# chown [backuppc-user]:[backuppc-group] /var/run/BackupPC

You can run them manually before attempting to start BackupPC to test if it
solves the problem.

If it works then you can add the function to the init script sample
provided in the BackupPC install directory.

David

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On Aug 4, 2015 4:45 AM, Bob of Donelson Trophy b...@donelsontrophy.net
wrote:

 David,

 I have placed your checkTempFs file but it appears to not be running on
 restart.

 What directory did you place your checkTempFs file in?

 What file permissions does checkTempFs need?

 Then finally, simply insert the checkTempFs above the echo -n Starting
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 On 2015-08-03 20:48, David Cramblett wrote:

 How are you currently starting BackupPC? If you doing via the daemon mode,
 you may want to leave off the -d and start it in the foreground so you can
 see the error. I'm guessing your having the issue with the temp file system
 I mentioned before.

 David

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 I am so-o-o close to functional.

 When I run ps -ef | grep BackupPC I get only:


 root  2379  2344  0 21:39 pts/000:00:00 grep --color=auto BackupPC

 There is no backuppc (bunch of numbers) /usr/bin/perl
 /usr/local/BackupPC/bin/BackupPC -d like your output!

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 Comments below:

 On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 8:07 AM, Bob of Donelson Trophy 
 b...@donelsontrophy.net wrote:

 David,

 Within the BackupPC-4.0.0alpha3.tar.gz is a file to be placed at
 /var/www/httpd/conf.d/ which used to create the cgi page needed to web
 administer BackupPC.

 If I am understanding what I am reading, this file, in conjunction with
 the httpd.conf file does the same as you suggested in your last email
 regarding accessing the webgui. (Maybe not, I consider myself very much a
 newbie when it comes to httpd.)


 Yes that will work fine. As I mentioned, I only run BackupPC software on
 my backup server, so I don't bother with separate config files.

 I have set httpd.conf to be run by 'backuppc' user and 'backuppc' group
 as suggested.


 I assume you restarted the httpd server after making this change. If not,
 please do.


 I can access my webgui at my ip address/cgi-bin/BackupPC_Admin but not
 at ip address/BackupPC as I have configured in /etc/
 BackupPC.configure.pl.


 As far as i'm aware, the BackupPC alias is just for web images, not the
 program. You need to use the /cgi-in/BackupPC_Admin to use the web-gui.
 I'm not sure what you mean in regards to I have configured in /etc/
 BackupPC.configure.pl.? There is not setting for the web gui location
 that I'm aware of. That location is handled by the httpd configuration.


 My webpage is saying:
 Error: Unable to connect to BackupPC server

 This CGI script (/cgi-bin/BackupPC_Admin) is unable to connect to the
 BackupPC server on backuppc4 port 0.
 The error was: unix connect: No such file or directory.
 Perhaps the BackupPC server is not running or there is a configuration
 error. Please report this to your Sys Admin.

 It use to say . . . backuppc4 port -1. until I changed the port to 0
 in configure.pl. Tells me it has something to do with the S/CGI port
 setting.


 The port should be -1 (negative 1). You only set the port if the BackupPC
 daemon is running on a different machine than the web-gui. I would go back
 to -1 and troubleshoot the problem from there.

 The error your getting usualy means the BackupPC service is not running.
 Please type the following command and verify that BackupPC is running:

 # ps -ef |grep BackupPC

 It should list something like the following:

 *backuppc* 20503 1  0 09:20 ?00:00:00 */usr/bin/perl
 /usr/local/BackupPC/bin/BackupPC -d*
 root 20521 20287  0 09:21 pts/000:00:00 grep --color=auto BackupPC

 Make sure BackupPC is running in daemon mode (-d) and the user it's
 running as is backuppc.


 I am fairly sure I have configured something wrong but, what?

 Any help would be greatly appreciated?

 Here is my httpd.conf file:

 [root@backuppc4 ~]# cat /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf
 #
 # This is the main Apache HTTP server configuration file.  It contains
 the
 # configuration directives that give the server its instructions.
 # See URL:http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/ for detailed information.
 # In particular, see
 # URL:http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/mod/directives.html
 # for a discussion of each configuration directive.
 #
 # Do NOT simply read the instructions in here

Re: [BackupPC-users] help installing BackupPC4.0.0alpha3.tar.gz

[David Cramblett]

 and configuration for the BackupPC CGI
 #   interface.
 #
 # Distributed with BackupPC version 3.1.1, released 22 Dec 2008.

 Directory  /var/www/cgi-bin 

 #
 # This section tells apache which machines can access the interface.
 # You can change the allow line to allow access from your local
 # network, or comment out this region to allow access from all
 # machines.
 #
 order deny,allow
 deny from all
 ##allow from 127.0.0.1
 allow from all

 #
 # You can change the authorization method to LDAP or another method
 # besides htaccess here if you are so inclined.
 #
 AuthType Basic
 AuthUserFile /etc/BackupPC/BackupPC.users
 ###AuthName BackupPC Community Edition Administrative Interface
 AuthName backuppc
 require valid-user

 /Directory

 Alias   /BackupPC /var/www/html
 ScriptAlias /BackupPC_Admin /var/www/cgi-bin/BackupPC_Admin---

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 Bob,

 The web server user needs to be able to access the backuppc software and
 daemon. You can handle this different ways (i.e. setuid, etc), but I'm
 always running just the backuppc daemon on my backup server. I just change
 the web server user and group to my backuppc user to make things easy. You
 can change this in your apache conf (/etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf on CentOS)
 if that will work for you.

 User backuppc
 Group backuppc

 You also need some adjustments to the cgi-bin config for apache. I setup a
 basic http passwd file so that authentication to the backuppc web interface
 is required. Again, this configuration is in the httpd.conf file.

 #   /var/www/cgi-bin should be changed to whatever your ScriptAliased
 #   CGI directory exists, if you have that configured.
 Directory /var/www/cgi-bin

 AuthType basic
 AuthName BackupPC
 AuthUserFile /etc/httpd/conf/backuppc_passwd

 Require valid-user
 Order allow,deny
 Allow from all

 AllowOverride None
 Options None
 #Require all granted

 /Directory


 If you want to create the password file, use the command htpasswd. You
 can run:

 # htpasswd -c /etc/httpd/conf/backuppc_passwd [username]

 The -c option means create a new file. You should leave it off after the
 first time, if creating multiple users and passwords.

 David


 On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Bob of Donelson Trophy 
 b...@donelsontrophy.net wrote:

 I might be wrong but, there is something new and different about the
 httpd configuration in CentOS 7.

 Polite as I can . . bump . . . . anybody ? . . . . please.


 ---

 ___

 Bob Wooden of Donelson Trophy
 615.885.2846www.donelsontrophy.com
 Everyone deserves an award!!

 On 2015-07-29 14:38, Bob of Donelson Trophy wrote:

 Having trouble finding instruction regarding how to setup CGI access for
 Apache on CentOS 7. Most of the instructions I am finding are for older
 versions. Any of those changes break httpd . . . so I remove that to return
 to functionality.

 With 'Links' installed, I can run the su -u backuppc
 /var/www/cgi-bin/BackupPC_Admin and the webpage appears on the sverver
 machine (via ssh) itself. So, the cgi-bin file is functional.

 Any help would be greatly appreciated.


 ---

 ___

 Bob Wooden of Donelson Trophy
 615.885.2846www.donelsontrophy.com
 Everyone deserves an award!!

 On 2015-07-28 09:25, Bob of Donelson Trophy wrote:

 Good news!

 Got BackupPC 4.0.0 to run!!

 I had a permissions issue with /data, my data (storage) directory. When I
 'chown' to backuppc user, and ran sudo -u backuppc
 /usr/local/BackupPC/bin/BackupPC -d BackupPC started . . . yeah!! (Now I
 can go look at logfiles.)

 Now, I think I have an Apache permissions issue as when I use my browser
 to access the [ip address]/BackupPC I get nothing but, when I try [ip
 address]/backuppc I get the directory that contains all the *.gif files and
 other. This is a (Apache?) permissions issue I have read about somewhere .
 . . now to find that again.

 My linux education continues . . .


 ---

 ___

 Bob Wooden of Donelson Trophy
 615.885.2846www.donelsontrophy.com
 Everyone deserves an award!!

 On 2015-07-27 15:50, David Cramblett wrote:

 As mentioned in a previous email, I had a problem getting backuppc to
 start or stay running when I first installed it. I found I had to ensure
 that the temp file location was created in in /var/run/BackupPC before
 starting the daemon. If backuppc uses a temp file location for your distro,
 I assume it does, then it will be needed to start the daemon, regardless
 whether you start it manually or form the init script.

 You could look and see if you have a directory at /var/run/BackupPC

 The config.pl parameter below will tell you where this directory should
 be created:

 $Conf{RunDir} = '/var/run/BackupPC';

 If you don't have the correct

Re: [BackupPC-users] help installing BackupPC4.0.0alpha3.tar.gz

[David Cramblett]

How are you currently starting BackupPC? If you doing via the daemon mode,
you may want to leave off the -d and start it in the foreground so you can
see the error. I'm guessing your having the issue with the temp file system
I mentioned before.

David

Sent from my mobile device

David Cramblett
On Aug 3, 2015 6:44 PM, Bob of Donelson Trophy b...@donelsontrophy.net
wrote:

 I am so-o-o close to functional.

 When I run ps -ef | grep BackupPC I get only:


 root  2379  2344  0 21:39 pts/000:00:00 grep --color=auto BackupPC

 There is no backuppc (bunch of numbers) /usr/bin/perl
 /usr/local/BackupPC/bin/BackupPC -d like your output!

 Suggestions?
 ---

 ___

 Bob Wooden of Donelson Trophy
 615.885.2846www.donelsontrophy.com
 Everyone deserves an award!!

 On 2015-08-03 11:24, David Cramblett wrote:

 Comments below:

 On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 8:07 AM, Bob of Donelson Trophy 
 b...@donelsontrophy.net wrote:

 David,

 Within the BackupPC-4.0.0alpha3.tar.gz is a file to be placed at
 /var/www/httpd/conf.d/ which used to create the cgi page needed to web
 administer BackupPC.

 If I am understanding what I am reading, this file, in conjunction with
 the httpd.conf file does the same as you suggested in your last email
 regarding accessing the webgui. (Maybe not, I consider myself very much a
 newbie when it comes to httpd.)


 Yes that will work fine. As I mentioned, I only run BackupPC software on
 my backup server, so I don't bother with separate config files.

 I have set httpd.conf to be run by 'backuppc' user and 'backuppc' group
 as suggested.


 I assume you restarted the httpd server after making this change. If not,
 please do.


 I can access my webgui at my ip address/cgi-bin/BackupPC_Admin but not at
 ip address/BackupPC as I have configured in /etc/BackupPC.configure.pl.


 As far as i'm aware, the BackupPC alias is just for web images, not the
 program. You need to use the /cgi-in/BackupPC_Admin to use the web-gui.
 I'm not sure what you mean in regards to I have configured in /etc/
 BackupPC.configure.pl.? There is not setting for the web gui location
 that I'm aware of. That location is handled by the httpd configuration.


 My webpage is saying:
 Error: Unable to connect to BackupPC server

 This CGI script (/cgi-bin/BackupPC_Admin) is unable to connect to the
 BackupPC server on backuppc4 port 0.
 The error was: unix connect: No such file or directory.
 Perhaps the BackupPC server is not running or there is a configuration
 error. Please report this to your Sys Admin.

 It use to say . . . backuppc4 port -1. until I changed the port to 0
 in configure.pl. Tells me it has something to do with the S/CGI port
 setting.


 The port should be -1 (negative 1). You only set the port if the BackupPC
 daemon is running on a different machine than the web-gui. I would go back
 to -1 and troubleshoot the problem from there.

 The error your getting usualy means the BackupPC service is not running.
 Please type the following command and verify that BackupPC is running:

 # ps -ef |grep BackupPC

 It should list something like the following:

 *backuppc* 20503 1  0 09:20 ?00:00:00 */usr/bin/perl
 /usr/local/BackupPC/bin/BackupPC -d*
 root 20521 20287  0 09:21 pts/000:00:00 grep --color=auto BackupPC

 Make sure BackupPC is running in daemon mode (-d) and the user it's
 running as is backuppc.


 I am fairly sure I have configured something wrong but, what?

 Any help would be greatly appreciated?

 Here is my httpd.conf file:

 [root@backuppc4 ~]# cat /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf
 #
 # This is the main Apache HTTP server configuration file.  It contains the
 # configuration directives that give the server its instructions.
 # See URL:http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/ for detailed information.
 # In particular, see
 # URL:http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/mod/directives.html
 # for a discussion of each configuration directive.
 #
 # Do NOT simply read the instructions in here without understanding
 # what they do.  They're here only as hints or reminders.  If you are
 unsure
 # consult the online docs. You have been warned.
 #
 # Configuration and logfile names: If the filenames you specify for many
 # of the server's control files begin with / (or drive:/ for Win32),
 the
 # server will use that explicit path.  If the filenames do *not* begin
 # with /, the value of ServerRoot is prepended -- so 'log/access_log'
 # with ServerRoot set to '/www' will be interpreted by the
 # server as '/www/log/access_log', where as '/log/access_log' will be
 # interpreted as '/log/access_log'.

 #
 # ServerRoot: The top of the directory tree under which the server's
 # configuration, error, and log files are kept.
 #
 # Do not add a slash at the end of the directory path.  If you point
 # ServerRoot at a non-local disk, be sure to specify a local disk on the
 # Mutex directive, if file-based mutexes are used.  If you wish to share
 the
 # same ServerRoot for multiple

Re: [BackupPC-users] help installing BackupPC4.0.0alpha3.tar.gz

[David Cramblett]

Bob,

The web server user needs to be able to access the backuppc software and
daemon. You can handle this different ways (i.e. setuid, etc), but I'm
always running just the backuppc daemon on my backup server. I just change
the web server user and group to my backuppc user to make things easy. You
can change this in your apache conf (/etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf on CentOS)
if that will work for you.

User backuppc
Group backuppc

You also need some adjustments to the cgi-bin config for apache. I setup a
basic http passwd file so that authentication to the backuppc web interface
is required. Again, this configuration is in the httpd.conf file.

#   /var/www/cgi-bin should be changed to whatever your ScriptAliased
#   CGI directory exists, if you have that configured.
Directory /var/www/cgi-bin

AuthType basic
AuthName BackupPC
AuthUserFile /etc/httpd/conf/backuppc_passwd

Require valid-user
Order allow,deny
Allow from all

AllowOverride None
Options None
#Require all granted

/Directory


If you want to create the password file, use the command htpasswd. You
can run:

# htpasswd -c /etc/httpd/conf/backuppc_passwd [username]

The -c option means create a new file. You should leave it off after the
first time, if creating multiple users and passwords.

David


On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Bob of Donelson Trophy 
b...@donelsontrophy.net wrote:

 I might be wrong but, there is something new and different about the httpd
 configuration in CentOS 7.

 Polite as I can . . bump . . . . anybody ? . . . . please.


 ---

 ___

 Bob Wooden of Donelson Trophy
 615.885.2846www.donelsontrophy.com
 Everyone deserves an award!!

 On 2015-07-29 14:38, Bob of Donelson Trophy wrote:

 Having trouble finding instruction regarding how to setup CGI access for
 Apache on CentOS 7. Most of the instructions I am finding are for older
 versions. Any of those changes break httpd . . . so I remove that to return
 to functionality.

 With 'Links' installed, I can run the su -u backuppc
 /var/www/cgi-bin/BackupPC_Admin and the webpage appears on the sverver
 machine (via ssh) itself. So, the cgi-bin file is functional.

 Any help would be greatly appreciated.


 ---

 ___

 Bob Wooden of Donelson Trophy
 615.885.2846www.donelsontrophy.com
 Everyone deserves an award!!

 On 2015-07-28 09:25, Bob of Donelson Trophy wrote:

 Good news!

 Got BackupPC 4.0.0 to run!!

 I had a permissions issue with /data, my data (storage) directory. When I
 'chown' to backuppc user, and ran sudo -u backuppc
 /usr/local/BackupPC/bin/BackupPC -d BackupPC started . . . yeah!! (Now I
 can go look at logfiles.)

 Now, I think I have an Apache permissions issue as when I use my browser
 to access the [ip address]/BackupPC I get nothing but, when I try [ip
 address]/backuppc I get the directory that contains all the *.gif files and
 other. This is a (Apache?) permissions issue I have read about somewhere .
 . . now to find that again.

 My linux education continues . . .


 ---

 ___

 Bob Wooden of Donelson Trophy
 615.885.2846www.donelsontrophy.com
 Everyone deserves an award!!

 On 2015-07-27 15:50, David Cramblett wrote:

 As mentioned in a previous email, I had a problem getting backuppc to
 start or stay running when I first installed it. I found I had to ensure
 that the temp file location was created in in /var/run/BackupPC before
 starting the daemon. If backuppc uses a temp file location for your distro,
 I assume it does, then it will be needed to start the daemon, regardless
 whether you start it manually or form the init script.

 You could look and see if you have a directory at /var/run/BackupPC

 The config.pl parameter below will tell you where this directory should
 be created:

 $Conf{RunDir} = '/var/run/BackupPC';

 If you don't have the correct directory, try creating it (of course
 customize this to your run dir location from config.pl):

 $ mkdir -p /var/run/BackupPC
 $ chown [backuppc-user]:[backuppc-group] /var/run/BackupPC

 Then try starting the daemon again.

 I ended up adding a temp file system check to my init script for backuppc:

 checkTempFs() {
 if `test -d /var/run/BackupPC`;  then
 echo BackupPC tempfs exisits
 else
 mkdir -p /var/run/BackupPC
 chown backuppc:backuppc /var/run/BackupPC
 echo BackupPC tempfs created
 fi
 }


 Then I I added the checkTempFs() function to the init script's start
 function:

 start() {
 # Make sure /var/run/BackupPC tempfs exisits
 *checkTempFs   *
 echo -n Starting BackupPC: 
 daemon --user backuppc /usr/local/BackupPC/bin/BackupPC -d
 RETVAL=$?
 echo
 [ $RETVAL -eq 0 ]  touch /var/lock/subsys/backuppc || \
RETVAL=1
 return $RETVAL
 }


 David



 On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Bob of Donelson Trophy 
 b...@donelsontrophy.net wrote:

 (Sorry, David. 'Hit' reply instead of reply-all. So your getting a
 duplicate.)

 Yes

Re: [BackupPC-users] help installing BackupPC4.0.0alpha3.tar.gz

[David Cramblett]

Bob,

My samba packages on CentOS 7:

samba-common-4.1.12-21
samba-libs-4.1.12-21
samba-client-4.1.12-21

I just wanted to double check, your following these steps below for your
backuppc install correct?

#
# Installation instructions: download and install all three tar balls.
#

BackupPC-XS-0.30.tar.gz:

  tar zxvf BackupPC-XS-0.30.tar.gz
  cd BackupPC-XS-0.30
  perl Makefile.PL
  make
  make test
  make install

rsync-bpc-3.0.9.3.tar.gz:

  tar zxvf rsync-bpc-3.0.9.3.tar.gz
  cd rsync-bpc-3.0.9.3
  ./configure.sh
  make
  make install

BackupPC-4.0.0alpha3.tar.gz:

  tar zxvf BackupPC-4.0.0alpha3.tar.gz
  cd BackupPC-4.0.0alpha3
  ./configure.pl

The last step for each will need to be run as a privileged user.

If you want to install rsync_bpc in /usr/local/bin (default might be
/usr/bin), then you should add the --prefix option to configure.sh:

  ./configure.sh --prefix=/usr/local

David



On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Bob of Donelson Trophy 
b...@donelsontrophy.net wrote:

  This is a BIG help. Thank you.

 I have re-installed my server with CentOS7. Resolved all (I think) my
 dependencies issues. Currently having some file permissions issues with
 Apache. My linux education continues.

 As I look through your file, the initial question is, what version Samba
 have you installed? Or is it smbclient?


 ---

 ___

 Bob Wooden of Donelson Trophy
 615.885.2846www.donelsontrophy.com
 Everyone deserves an award!!

  On 2015-07-26 12:24, David Cramblett wrote:

  Bob,

 Here is my config.pl. Anything in braces{ } is data I sanitized before
 sharing my config file.




  config.pl =

 $Conf{ServerHost} = '{BACKUPPC_HOST}.{MY_DOMAIN}';
 $Conf{ServerPort} = -1;
 $Conf{ServerMesgSecret} = '';
 $Conf{MyPath} = '/bin';
 $Conf{UmaskMode} = 23;
 $Conf{WakeupSchedule} = [
   1,
   2,
   3,
   4,
   5,
   6,
   7,
   21,
   22,
   23
 ];
 $Conf{PoolV3Enabled} = '0';
 $Conf{MaxBackups} = 4;
 $Conf{MaxUserBackups} = 4;
 $Conf{MaxPendingCmds} = 15;
 $Conf{CmdQueueNice} = 10;
 $Conf{MaxBackupPCNightlyJobs} = 4;
 $Conf{BackupPCNightlyPeriod} = 2;
 $Conf{PoolSizeNightlyUpdatePeriod} = 16;
 $Conf{MaxOldLogFiles} = 7;
 $Conf{DfPath} = '/usr/bin/df';
 $Conf{DfCmd} = '$dfPath $topDir';
 $Conf{SplitPath} = '/usr/bin/split';
 $Conf{ParPath} = undef;
 $Conf{CatPath} = '/usr/bin/cat';
 $Conf{GzipPath} = '/usr/bin/gzip';
 $Conf{Bzip2Path} = '/usr/bin/bzip2';
 $Conf{DfMaxUsagePct} = 98;
 $Conf{DHCPAddressRanges} = [];
 $Conf{BackupPCUser} = '{BACKUPPC_USER}';
 $Conf{TopDir} = '/backuppc';
 $Conf{ConfDir} = '/etc/BackupPC';
 $Conf{LogDir} = '/var/log/BackupPC';
 $Conf{RunDir} = '/var/run/BackupPC';
 $Conf{InstallDir} = '/usr/local/BackupPC';
 $Conf{CgiDir} = '/var/www/cgi-bin';
 $Conf{BackupPCUserVerify} = '1';
 $Conf{HardLinkMax} = 31999;
 $Conf{PerlModuleLoad} = undef;
 $Conf{ServerInitdPath} = undef;
 $Conf{ServerInitdStartCmd} = '';
 $Conf{FullPeriod} = '6.97';
 $Conf{IncrPeriod} = '0.97';
 $Conf{FillCycle} = 0;
 $Conf{FullKeepCnt} = [
   2,
   0,
   6
 ];
 $Conf{FullKeepCntMin} = 1;
 $Conf{FullAgeMax} = 90;
 $Conf{IncrKeepCnt} = 6;
 $Conf{IncrKeepCntMin} = 1;
 $Conf{IncrAgeMax} = 30;
 $Conf{BackupsDisable} = 0;
 $Conf{RestoreInfoKeepCnt} = 10;
 $Conf{ArchiveInfoKeepCnt} = 10;
 $Conf{BackupFilesOnly} = {};
 $Conf{BackupFilesExclude} = {};
 $Conf{BlackoutBadPingLimit} = 3;
 $Conf{BlackoutGoodCnt} = 7;
 $Conf{BlackoutPeriods} = [
   {
 'hourEnd' = 24,
 'weekDays' = [
   1,
   2,
   3,
   4,
   5
 ],
 'hourBegin' = 7
   }
 ];
 $Conf{BackupZeroFilesIsFatal} = '1';
 $Conf{XferMethod} = 'rsync';
 $Conf{XferLogLevel} = 1;
 $Conf{ClientCharset} = '';
 $Conf{ClientCharsetLegacy} = 'iso-8859-1';
 $Conf{SmbShareName} = [
   'C$'
 ];
 $Conf{SmbShareUserName} = '';
 $Conf{SmbSharePasswd} = '';
 $Conf{SmbClientPath} = '/usr/bin/smbclient';
 $Conf{SmbClientFullCmd} = '$smbClientPath $host\\$shareName $I_option
 -U $userName -E -d 1 -c tarmode\\ full -Tc$X_option - $fileList';
 $Conf{SmbClientIncrCmd} = '$smbClientPath $host\\$shareName $I_option
 -U $userName -E -d 1 -c tarmode\\ full -TcN$X_option $timeStampFile -
 $fileList';
 $Conf{SmbClientRestoreCmd} = '$smbClientPath $host\\$shareName
 $I_option -U $userName -E -d 1 -c tarmode\\ full -Tx -';
 $Conf{TarShareName} = [
   '/'
 ];
 $Conf{TarClientCmd} = '$sshPath -q -x -n -l root $host env LC_ALL=C
 $tarPath -c -v -f - -C $shareName+ --totals';
 $Conf{TarFullArgs} = '$fileList+';
 $Conf{TarIncrArgs} = '--newer=$incrDate+ $fileList+';
 $Conf{TarClientRestoreCmd} = '$sshPath -q -x -l root $host env LC_ALL=C
 $tarPath -x -p --numeric-owner --same-owner -v -f - -C $shareName+';
 $Conf{TarClientPath} = '/usr/bin/gtar';
 $Conf{RsyncClientPath} = '/usr/bin/rsync';
 $Conf{RsyncBackupPCPath} = '/usr/local/bin/rsync_bpc';
 $Conf

Re: [BackupPC-users] help installing BackupPC4.0.0alpha3.tar.gz

[David Cramblett]

As mentioned in a previous email, I had a problem getting backuppc to start
or stay running when I first installed it. I found I had to ensure that the
temp file location was created in in /var/run/BackupPC before starting the
daemon. If backuppc uses a temp file location for your distro, I assume it
does, then it will be needed to start the daemon, regardless whether you
start it manually or form the init script.

You could look and see if you have a directory at /var/run/BackupPC

The config.pl parameter below will tell you where this directory should be
created:

$Conf{RunDir} = '/var/run/BackupPC';

If you don't have the correct directory, try creating it (of course
customize this to your run dir location from config.pl):

$ mkdir -p /var/run/BackupPC
$ chown [backuppc-user]:[backuppc-group] /var/run/BackupPC

Then try starting the daemon again.

I ended up adding a temp file system check to my init script for backuppc:

checkTempFs() {
if `test -d /var/run/BackupPC`;  then
echo BackupPC tempfs exisits
else
mkdir -p /var/run/BackupPC
chown backuppc:backuppc /var/run/BackupPC
echo BackupPC tempfs created
fi
}


Then I I added the checkTempFs() function to the init script's start
function:

start() {
# Make sure /var/run/BackupPC tempfs exisits
*checkTempFs   *
echo -n Starting BackupPC: 
daemon --user backuppc /usr/local/BackupPC/bin/BackupPC -d
RETVAL=$?
echo
[ $RETVAL -eq 0 ]  touch /var/lock/subsys/backuppc || \
   RETVAL=1
return $RETVAL
}


David



On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Bob of Donelson Trophy 
b...@donelsontrophy.net wrote:

  (Sorry, David. 'Hit' reply instead of reply-all. So your getting a
 duplicate.)

 Yes, I am following the steps below.

 However the ./configure.sh --prefix option suggestion to add to the
 rsync-bpc, I did not do as running ./configure.sh reports that is has
 installed in /usr/local/bin by default. Keywords in that suggestion
 sentence are default might be . . ..

 Also, your config.pl file is very much identical to mine except I have
 not yet installed samba.

 I am having trouble getting backuppc to run manually (have not activated
 the init.d script, yet.)

 I am struggling with file permissions and will not get back to post any
 specific questions until late this afternoon or tomorrow.

 So far the project seems to be progressing well.


 ---

 ___

 Bob Wooden of Donelson Trophy
 615.885.2846www.donelsontrophy.com
 Everyone deserves an award!!

  On 2015-07-27 11:29, David Cramblett wrote:

 Bob,

 My samba packages on CentOS 7:

  samba-common-4.1.12-21
 samba-libs-4.1.12-21
 samba-client-4.1.12-21

 I just wanted to double check, your following these steps below for your
 backuppc install correct?

  #
 # Installation instructions: download and install all three tar balls.
 #

 BackupPC-XS-0.30.tar.gz:

   tar zxvf BackupPC-XS-0.30.tar.gz
   cd BackupPC-XS-0.30
   perl Makefile.PL
   make
   make test
   make install

 rsync-bpc-3.0.9.3.tar.gz:

   tar zxvf rsync-bpc-3.0.9.3.tar.gz
   cd rsync-bpc-3.0.9.3
   ./configure.sh
   make
   make install

 BackupPC-4.0.0alpha3.tar.gz:

   tar zxvf BackupPC-4.0.0alpha3.tar.gz
   cd BackupPC-4.0.0alpha3
   ./configure.pl

 The last step for each will need to be run as a privileged user.

 If you want to install rsync_bpc in /usr/local/bin (default might be
 /usr/bin), then you should add the --prefix option to configure.sh:

   ./configure.sh --prefix=/usr/local

 David



 On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Bob of Donelson Trophy 
 b...@donelsontrophy.net wrote:

  This is a BIG help. Thank you.

 I have re-installed my server with CentOS7. Resolved all (I think) my
 dependencies issues. Currently having some file permissions issues with
 Apache. My linux education continues.

 As I look through your file, the initial question is, what version Samba
 have you installed? Or is it smbclient?


 ---

 ___

 Bob Wooden of Donelson Trophy
 615.885.2846www.donelsontrophy.com
 Everyone deserves an award!!

  On 2015-07-26 12:24, David Cramblett wrote:

  Bob,

 Here is my config.pl. Anything in braces{ } is data I sanitized before
 sharing my config file.




  config.pl =

 $Conf{ServerHost} = '{BACKUPPC_HOST}.{MY_DOMAIN}';
 $Conf{ServerPort} = -1;
 $Conf{ServerMesgSecret} = '';
 $Conf{MyPath} = '/bin';
 $Conf{UmaskMode} = 23;
 $Conf{WakeupSchedule} = [
   1,
   2,
   3,
   4,
   5,
   6,
   7,
   21,
   22,
   23
 ];
 $Conf{PoolV3Enabled} = '0';
 $Conf{MaxBackups} = 4;
 $Conf{MaxUserBackups} = 4;
 $Conf{MaxPendingCmds} = 15;
 $Conf{CmdQueueNice} = 10;
 $Conf{MaxBackupPCNightlyJobs} = 4;
 $Conf{BackupPCNightlyPeriod} = 2;
 $Conf{PoolSizeNightlyUpdatePeriod} = 16;
 $Conf{MaxOldLogFiles} = 7;
 $Conf{DfPath} = '/usr/bin/df';
 $Conf{DfCmd

Re: [BackupPC-users] help installing BackupPC4.0.0alpha3.tar.gz

[David Cramblett]

 issue is where to
 place what. There is an html-dir directory that I am not sure where to
 put it (i.e. /usr/share/backuppc/html or somewhere in Apache2?) And so I
 cannot get the URL to allow access via the webpage (http://[ip
 address]/backuppc.)And then the permissions required for backuppc user to
 access the cgi-bin files?

 Could I see a copy (sanitized, if you like) of your configure.pl file?
 Where you chose to place various directories might help me figure out what
 I am doing wrong.


 ---

 ___

 Bob Wooden of Donelson Trophy
 615.885.2846www.donelsontrophy.com
 Everyone deserves an award!!

  On 2015-07-24 17:18, David Cramblett wrote:

 Bob,

 What kind of issue are you running in to? I installed about 6-9 months ago
 on CentOS 7. I didn't write down any instructions though - I'm terrible
 about that. I only ran into a couple of issues that I can recall:

 1) Dependencies - A few were missing and I had manually install them. I
 think the BackupPC install script listed the dependencies, and whether I
 had them installed or not. I would just cancel the installer, add the
 missing dependencies, and then re-run the installer. A couple of libraries,
 I couldn't identify the package off the top of my head, but I was able to
 locate which package had the library from a quick Google search.

 2) The installer did not have a good init script for the newest version of
 CentOS I was using. I found a couple tips on the list serve and then wrote
 my own init script to start BackupPC on system startup for CentOS. The main
 issue was the temp file system in /var/run/BackupPC was not being created
 properly, so BackupPC would not start or wouldn't stay running.

 If you can let me know what specific issue your having, I can try and give
 you a hand.


 David

 On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Bob of Donelson Trophy 
 b...@donelsontrophy.net wrote:

  I know this is a very general request but, I have been trying to
 install BackupPC4.0.0alpha3.tar,gz on Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS.

 It is not as simple as Install essentials, install
 BackupPC-XS-0.3.0.tar.gz, install rsync-bpc-3.0.9.3.tar.gz, install
 BackupPC4.0.0alpha3.tar.gz., etc.

 I believe I have solved most of my dependencies issues.

 Does anyone have any notes to better guide me than the information that I 
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Re: [BackupPC-users] help installing BackupPC4.0.0alpha3.tar.gz

[David Cramblett]

Bob,

What kind of issue are you running in to? I installed about 6-9 months ago
on CentOS 7. I didn't write down any instructions though - I'm terrible
about that. I only ran into a couple of issues that I can recall:

1) Dependencies - A few were missing and I had manually install them. I
think the BackupPC install script listed the dependencies, and whether I
had them installed or not. I would just cancel the installer, add the
missing dependencies, and then re-run the installer. A couple of libraries,
I couldn't identify the package off the top of my head, but I was able to
locate which package had the library from a quick Google search.

2) The installer did not have a good init script for the newest version of
CentOS I was using. I found a couple tips on the list serve and then wrote
my own init script to start BackupPC on system startup for CentOS. The main
issue was the temp file system in /var/run/BackupPC was not being created
properly, so BackupPC would not start or wouldn't stay running.

If you can let me know what specific issue your having, I can try and give
you a hand.


David

On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Bob of Donelson Trophy 
b...@donelsontrophy.net wrote:

  I know this is a very general request but, I have been trying to install
 BackupPC4.0.0alpha3.tar,gz on Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS.

 It is not as simple as Install essentials, install
 BackupPC-XS-0.3.0.tar.gz, install rsync-bpc-3.0.9.3.tar.gz, install
 BackupPC4.0.0alpha3.tar.gz., etc.

 I believe I have solved most of my dependencies issues.

 Does anyone have any notes to better guide me than the information that I 
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Single User Access

[David Cramblett]

Take a look here:
http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/faq/BackupPC.html#Step-4:-Setting-up-the-hosts-file

Checkout the Users section if the host file.

David

On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Niels Przybilla n...@sf-solutions.net
wrote:

 Hello,

 We like backuppc.

 Is it possible to give users access to their own backup data ?

 So for example they can restore files from their backups.

 THX for clarification.

 Best wishes

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Backuppc 4.0 usage

[David Cramblett]

I'm currently using SMB for my Windows hosts, and I'm only backing up
C:/Users/* on most systems. I also backup some MSSQL database backup
directories on one host, and a Quickbooks folder share on another host. I
have found over the years trying to backup all of the Windows file-system
just isn't worth it for my purposes.

And for anyone who may be interested, I'm running BackupPC 4.0 as a KVM
virtual guest on a Core i5, with 2 of the 4 CPU's, and 8GB of the 16GB of
RAM. 4 SATA Disk RAID 10 running the virtual host and guests. Has been
working quite well and been plenty fast for my needs.

David

On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 4:14 AM, Robert Wooden rbrte...@comcast.net wrote:

 David,

 On your W7 clients, what is your backup method of choice? SMB or rsync or
 rsyncd?

 And what did you use to configure the W7 client? Cygwin? Michael Stowe?

 Do you use junction points or do you have an extensive exclude list?

 Or are you primarily backing up your My Documents only and not the OS?

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 I have been using 4.0 on CentOS 7 for about 5 months at my home office. I
 have 7 hosts being backed-up. About 4 TB pooled / 42 TB prior to pooling
 and compression. Combination of Linux and Windows hosts.

 No issues at this point.

 David



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Re: [BackupPC-users] Backuppc 4.0 usage

[David Cramblett]

I have been using 4.0 on CentOS 7 for about 5 months at my home office. I
have 7 hosts being backed-up. About 4 TB pooled / 42 TB prior to pooling
and compression. Combination of Linux and Windows hosts.

No issues at this point.

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Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC won't start, no output when command executed

[David Cramblett]

On my centos 7 system, I added the following function to my
/etc/init.d/backuppc script:

# ...

checkTempFs() {
if `test -d /var/run/BackupPC`;  then
echo BackupPC tempfs exisits
else
mkdir -p /var/run/BackupPC
chown backuppc:backuppc /var/run/BackupPC
echo BackupPC tempfs created
fi
}

# ...


Then I added the checkTempFs function to the top of the start function
in the same script:


# ...

start() {
# Make sure /var/run/BackupPC tempfs exisits
checkTempFs

# ...



On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 5:32 PM, kpolb...@kpolberg.net wrote:

  I think it will be missing after a reboot again. Because /var/run is a
 tmpfs mounted directory. So probably need to create the backuppc directory
 in the init script.

 Knut Petter


 On 28.11.2014 07:35, David Cramblett wrote:

 Turned out I was some how missing the /var/run/BackupPC directory, where
 BackupPC creates the BackupPC.sock and BackupPC.pid files when it's
 running. How I got BackupPC started the first time, without this directory,
 I can not tell at this point.

  Regardless, things are working well again and it seems that
 BackupPC-4-alpha is solid for linux and windows clients so far.

  David

 On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 9:38 AM, David Cramblett 
 da...@functionalchaos.net wrote:

 Looks like its failing here trying to find libc.mo

  open(/usr/share/locale/en_US.UTF-8/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo, O_RDONLY) =
 -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
 open(/usr/share/locale/en_US.utf8/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo, O_RDONLY) = -1
 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
 open(/usr/share/locale/en_US/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT
 (No such file or directory)
 open(/usr/share/locale/en.UTF-8/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo, O_RDONLY) = -1
 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
 open(/usr/share/locale/en.utf8/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo, O_RDONLY) = -1
 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
 open(/usr/share/locale/en/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT
 (No such file or directory)
 write(3, 2014-11-27 09:29:48 unix bind() ..., 66) = 66

  That unix bind() failure message is writtent to the backuppc log.


 On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 9:38 PM, David Cramblett 
 da...@functionalchaos.net wrote:


  I recently decided to upgrade my long running BackupPC system (personal
 home instance). Since it's for personal use, I decided to give
 the BackupPC-4.0.0alpha3 a go.  I installed on a CentOS 7 system.

  My initial install went fine. I added four hosts and made several
 backups over the past several days. Today I restarted the sever to move
 some cabling around and now the BackupPC daemon wont start.

  I ran /usr/local/BackupPC/bin/BackupPC manually and got no output and
 no errors, but the program just exited ( I expected it to run in the
 foreground without the -d option). I tried again several times, both with
 and without the -d option. No output, just exits and I can't find any
 instance of the BackupPC daemon running.

  I tried running BackupPC as root and received the expected Wrong
 user message.

  I added the -w flag after #!/usr/bin/perl in the BackupPC command
 file, hoping to get some help, but nothing stands out to me:

  [backuppc@backuppc ~]$ /usr/local/BackupPC/bin/BackupPC
 my variable $lockFd masks earlier declaration in same scope at
 /usr/local/BackupPC/lib/BackupPC/Storage/Text.pm line 474.
 my variable $locked masks earlier declaration in same scope at
 /usr/local/BackupPC/lib/BackupPC/Storage/Text.pm line 474.
 Statement unlikely to be reached at
 /usr/local/BackupPC/lib/BackupPC/Lib.pm line 1153.
 (Maybe you meant system() when you said exec()?)
 Statement unlikely to be reached at
 /usr/local/BackupPC/lib/BackupPC/Lib.pm line 1218.
 (Maybe you meant system() when you said exec()?)
 Statement unlikely to be reached at /usr/local/BackupPC/bin/BackupPC
 line 565.
 (Maybe you meant system() when you said exec()?)
 Statement unlikely to be reached at /usr/local/BackupPC/bin/BackupPC
 line 737.
 (Maybe you meant system() when you said exec()?)
 Possible attempt to separate words with commas at
 /usr/local/BackupPC/bin/BackupPC line 1314.
 Name BackupPC::Storage::Text::LOCK used only once: possible typo at
 /usr/local/BackupPC/lib/BackupPC/Storage/Text.pm line 482.
 Use of uninitialized value $topDir in string eq at
 /usr/local/BackupPC/lib/BackupPC/Lib.pm line 68.
 Use of uninitialized value $installDir in string eq at
 /usr/local/BackupPC/lib/BackupPC/Lib.pm line 69.
 Use of uninitialized value $confDir in string eq at
 /usr/local/BackupPC/lib/BackupPC/Lib.pm line 77.
 Use of uninitialized value $host in string ne at
 /usr/local/BackupPC/lib/BackupPC/Lib.pm line 346.
 Use of uninitialized value in string ne at
 /usr/local/BackupPC/bin/BackupPC line 244.

  Regards,

  David


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Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC won't start, no output when command executed

[David Cramblett]

Looks like its failing here trying to find libc.mo

open(/usr/share/locale/en_US.UTF-8/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo, O_RDONLY) = -1
ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open(/usr/share/locale/en_US.utf8/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo, O_RDONLY) = -1
ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open(/usr/share/locale/en_US/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT
(No such file or directory)
open(/usr/share/locale/en.UTF-8/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo, O_RDONLY) = -1
ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open(/usr/share/locale/en.utf8/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT
(No such file or directory)
open(/usr/share/locale/en/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
write(3, 2014-11-27 09:29:48 unix bind() ..., 66) = 66

That unix bind() failure message is writtent to the backuppc log.


On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 9:38 PM, David Cramblett da...@functionalchaos.net
wrote:


 I recently decided to upgrade my long running BackupPC system (personal
 home instance). Since it's for personal use, I decided to give
 the BackupPC-4.0.0alpha3 a go.  I installed on a CentOS 7 system.

 My initial install went fine. I added four hosts and made several backups
 over the past several days. Today I restarted the sever to move some
 cabling around and now the BackupPC daemon wont start.

 I ran /usr/local/BackupPC/bin/BackupPC manually and got no output and no
 errors, but the program just exited ( I expected it to run in the
 foreground without the -d option). I tried again several times, both with
 and without the -d option. No output, just exits and I can't find any
 instance of the BackupPC daemon running.

 I tried running BackupPC as root and received the expected Wrong user
 message.

 I added the -w flag after #!/usr/bin/perl in the BackupPC command file,
 hoping to get some help, but nothing stands out to me:

 [backuppc@backuppc ~]$ /usr/local/BackupPC/bin/BackupPC
 my variable $lockFd masks earlier declaration in same scope at
 /usr/local/BackupPC/lib/BackupPC/Storage/Text.pm line 474.
 my variable $locked masks earlier declaration in same scope at
 /usr/local/BackupPC/lib/BackupPC/Storage/Text.pm line 474.
 Statement unlikely to be reached at
 /usr/local/BackupPC/lib/BackupPC/Lib.pm line 1153.
 (Maybe you meant system() when you said exec()?)
 Statement unlikely to be reached at
 /usr/local/BackupPC/lib/BackupPC/Lib.pm line 1218.
 (Maybe you meant system() when you said exec()?)
 Statement unlikely to be reached at /usr/local/BackupPC/bin/BackupPC line
 565.
 (Maybe you meant system() when you said exec()?)
 Statement unlikely to be reached at /usr/local/BackupPC/bin/BackupPC line
 737.
 (Maybe you meant system() when you said exec()?)
 Possible attempt to separate words with commas at
 /usr/local/BackupPC/bin/BackupPC line 1314.
 Name BackupPC::Storage::Text::LOCK used only once: possible typo at
 /usr/local/BackupPC/lib/BackupPC/Storage/Text.pm line 482.
 Use of uninitialized value $topDir in string eq at
 /usr/local/BackupPC/lib/BackupPC/Lib.pm line 68.
 Use of uninitialized value $installDir in string eq at
 /usr/local/BackupPC/lib/BackupPC/Lib.pm line 69.
 Use of uninitialized value $confDir in string eq at
 /usr/local/BackupPC/lib/BackupPC/Lib.pm line 77.
 Use of uninitialized value $host in string ne at
 /usr/local/BackupPC/lib/BackupPC/Lib.pm line 346.
 Use of uninitialized value in string ne at
 /usr/local/BackupPC/bin/BackupPC line 244.

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Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC won't start, no output when command executed

[David Cramblett]

Turned out I was some how missing the /var/run/BackupPC directory, where
BackupPC creates the BackupPC.sock and BackupPC.pid files when it's
running. How I got BackupPC started the first time, without this directory,
I can not tell at this point.

Regardless, things are working well again and it seems that
BackupPC-4-alpha is solid for linux and windows clients so far.

David

On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 9:38 AM, David Cramblett da...@functionalchaos.net
wrote:

 Looks like its failing here trying to find libc.mo

 open(/usr/share/locale/en_US.UTF-8/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo, O_RDONLY) = -1
 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
 open(/usr/share/locale/en_US.utf8/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo, O_RDONLY) = -1
 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
 open(/usr/share/locale/en_US/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT
 (No such file or directory)
 open(/usr/share/locale/en.UTF-8/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo, O_RDONLY) = -1
 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
 open(/usr/share/locale/en.utf8/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo, O_RDONLY) = -1
 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
 open(/usr/share/locale/en/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No
 such file or directory)
 write(3, 2014-11-27 09:29:48 unix bind() ..., 66) = 66

 That unix bind() failure message is writtent to the backuppc log.


 On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 9:38 PM, David Cramblett 
 da...@functionalchaos.net wrote:


 I recently decided to upgrade my long running BackupPC system (personal
 home instance). Since it's for personal use, I decided to give
 the BackupPC-4.0.0alpha3 a go.  I installed on a CentOS 7 system.

 My initial install went fine. I added four hosts and made several backups
 over the past several days. Today I restarted the sever to move some
 cabling around and now the BackupPC daemon wont start.

 I ran /usr/local/BackupPC/bin/BackupPC manually and got no output and no
 errors, but the program just exited ( I expected it to run in the
 foreground without the -d option). I tried again several times, both with
 and without the -d option. No output, just exits and I can't find any
 instance of the BackupPC daemon running.

 I tried running BackupPC as root and received the expected Wrong user
 message.

 I added the -w flag after #!/usr/bin/perl in the BackupPC command file,
 hoping to get some help, but nothing stands out to me:

 [backuppc@backuppc ~]$ /usr/local/BackupPC/bin/BackupPC
 my variable $lockFd masks earlier declaration in same scope at
 /usr/local/BackupPC/lib/BackupPC/Storage/Text.pm line 474.
 my variable $locked masks earlier declaration in same scope at
 /usr/local/BackupPC/lib/BackupPC/Storage/Text.pm line 474.
 Statement unlikely to be reached at
 /usr/local/BackupPC/lib/BackupPC/Lib.pm line 1153.
 (Maybe you meant system() when you said exec()?)
 Statement unlikely to be reached at
 /usr/local/BackupPC/lib/BackupPC/Lib.pm line 1218.
 (Maybe you meant system() when you said exec()?)
 Statement unlikely to be reached at /usr/local/BackupPC/bin/BackupPC line
 565.
 (Maybe you meant system() when you said exec()?)
 Statement unlikely to be reached at /usr/local/BackupPC/bin/BackupPC line
 737.
 (Maybe you meant system() when you said exec()?)
 Possible attempt to separate words with commas at
 /usr/local/BackupPC/bin/BackupPC line 1314.
 Name BackupPC::Storage::Text::LOCK used only once: possible typo at
 /usr/local/BackupPC/lib/BackupPC/Storage/Text.pm line 482.
 Use of uninitialized value $topDir in string eq at
 /usr/local/BackupPC/lib/BackupPC/Lib.pm line 68.
 Use of uninitialized value $installDir in string eq at
 /usr/local/BackupPC/lib/BackupPC/Lib.pm line 69.
 Use of uninitialized value $confDir in string eq at
 /usr/local/BackupPC/lib/BackupPC/Lib.pm line 77.
 Use of uninitialized value $host in string ne at
 /usr/local/BackupPC/lib/BackupPC/Lib.pm line 346.
 Use of uninitialized value in string ne at
 /usr/local/BackupPC/bin/BackupPC line 244.

 Regards,

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[BackupPC-users] BackupPC won't start, no output when command executed

[David Cramblett]

I recently decided to upgrade my long running BackupPC system (personal
home instance). Since it's for personal use, I decided to give
the BackupPC-4.0.0alpha3 a go.  I installed on a CentOS 7 system.

My initial install went fine. I added four hosts and made several backups
over the past several days. Today I restarted the sever to move some
cabling around and now the BackupPC daemon wont start.

I ran /usr/local/BackupPC/bin/BackupPC manually and got no output and no
errors, but the program just exited ( I expected it to run in the
foreground without the -d option). I tried again several times, both with
and without the -d option. No output, just exits and I can't find any
instance of the BackupPC daemon running.

I tried running BackupPC as root and received the expected Wrong user
message.

I added the -w flag after #!/usr/bin/perl in the BackupPC command file,
hoping to get some help, but nothing stands out to me:

[backuppc@backuppc ~]$ /usr/local/BackupPC/bin/BackupPC
my variable $lockFd masks earlier declaration in same scope at
/usr/local/BackupPC/lib/BackupPC/Storage/Text.pm line 474.
my variable $locked masks earlier declaration in same scope at
/usr/local/BackupPC/lib/BackupPC/Storage/Text.pm line 474.
Statement unlikely to be reached at /usr/local/BackupPC/lib/BackupPC/Lib.pm
line 1153.
(Maybe you meant system() when you said exec()?)
Statement unlikely to be reached at /usr/local/BackupPC/lib/BackupPC/Lib.pm
line 1218.
(Maybe you meant system() when you said exec()?)
Statement unlikely to be reached at /usr/local/BackupPC/bin/BackupPC line
565.
(Maybe you meant system() when you said exec()?)
Statement unlikely to be reached at /usr/local/BackupPC/bin/BackupPC line
737.
(Maybe you meant system() when you said exec()?)
Possible attempt to separate words with commas at
/usr/local/BackupPC/bin/BackupPC line 1314.
Name BackupPC::Storage::Text::LOCK used only once: possible typo at
/usr/local/BackupPC/lib/BackupPC/Storage/Text.pm line 482.
Use of uninitialized value $topDir in string eq at
/usr/local/BackupPC/lib/BackupPC/Lib.pm line 68.
Use of uninitialized value $installDir in string eq at
/usr/local/BackupPC/lib/BackupPC/Lib.pm line 69.
Use of uninitialized value $confDir in string eq at
/usr/local/BackupPC/lib/BackupPC/Lib.pm line 77.
Use of uninitialized value $host in string ne at
/usr/local/BackupPC/lib/BackupPC/Lib.pm line 346.
Use of uninitialized value in string ne at /usr/local/BackupPC/bin/BackupPC
line 244.

Regards,

David


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Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup a host 1 time and 1 time only.

[David Cramblett]

If you look in the config file under full period there is an option 
for this very thing.

David

Ryan Turnbull wrote:
 Is there a way to have backuppc backup a system once and keep the backup 
 indefinately?  I have backed up a crashed PC and restored some data from 
 the backup, however I DON'T want to have BackupPC backup that host 
 again.  The PC host is at the same IP address as previous.  As well I 
 need to be able to view the backup within the CGI.
 
 Please let me know if there is a way.
 
 Thanks
 
 Ryan
 
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