Re: [BackupPC-users] Backing up the backup to an external USB drive
Hi Rob Owens wrote: I thought about something similar a while back. I never got anywhere with it, but the plan was to use Knoppix or Knoppix-like technology to have all the hardware automatically detected and configured at boot. That way the hard drive could be installed in any machine and it would work. This info may be outdated: Knoppix has 3 configuration options for a hard drive installation. The one you would want is called Knoppix, and it basically runs the live cd system on a hard drive. All the live cd startup scripts run, so hardware is detected automatically. I don't think Knoppix would be the best distro to use, due to its mish-mash of repositories, but maybe a Debian live cd or Ubuntu live cd would do the trick for you. I'm just not sure how to install them to the hard drive in Knoppix mode. The approach I am proposing is a little simpler than that, I only want to have a bootable usb system which is equal to the backuppc system, and which could easily replace it. Of course I will not have all the hardware detection that the liveCDs do, so maybe somethings will still be done by hand. Let me tell you what happened in my tests. After 33 hours dd'ing the pool to the usb disk, it finally ended, so I am really considering a eSata case, there is no way to wait 33 hours each time I want to sync the server with the usb case. My experience in booting the usb disk was successful, I had some problems with grub and fstab, which I guess are not easy to avoid. Depending on how many disks I have on the machine the device is recognized as sdb, sdd, etc, so I should, at least, dinamically generate the fstab file, which I am not willing to do right now. By now I could live with this kind of manual operation. Below you will find the script I made for doing the sync operation, this is a very simple script which only solves my problem, but maybe this can help others and maybe you could help improving it. Sorry for some portuguese comments... Rodrigo #!/bin/bash /etc/init.d/backuppc stop || exit umount /var/lib/backuppc || exit echo Fazendo backup do /boot mount /dev/sdd1 /mnt/sdd1 || exit time rsync -a --delete-after /boot/* /mnt/sdd1/ umount /mnt/sdd1 echo Fazendo backup do barra mount /dev/sdd2 /mnt/sdd2 || exit time rsync -ax --delete-after --exclude=/proc --exclude=/dev --exclude=/sys --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/var/lib/backuppc --exclude=/tmp /* /mnt/sdd2/ mkdir /mnt/sdd2/proc /mnt/sdd2/dev /mnt/sdd2/sys /mnt/sdd2/mnt /mnt/sdd2/tmp /mnt/sdd2/var/lib/backuppc chmod 777 /mnt/sdd2/tmp chmod o+t /mnt/sdd2/tmp ## acertando o fstab cat EOF /mnt/sdd2/etc/fstab # /etc/fstab: static file system information. # # file system mount point type options dump pass proc/proc procdefaults0 0 /dev/sdb2 / reiserfs defaults0 1 #/dev/sdb1/boot reiserfs notail 0 2 /dev/sdb3 /var/lib/backuppc reiserfs defaults0 2 /dev/sdb4 noneswapsw,pri=1 0 0 /dev/hda/media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 EOF umount /mnt/sdd2 echo Fazendo backup da area de dados do backuppc lvcreate -L1G -s -n bkp_snapshot /dev/vg/backup || exit time dd if=/dev/vg/bkp_snapshot of=/dev/sdd3 lvremove -f /dev/vg/bkp_snapshot mount /var/lib/backuppc /etc/init.d/backuppc start -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Backing up the backup to an external USB drive
Hello, Holger Parplies wrote: Hi, Adam Goryachev wrote on 2008-12-12 11:09:14 +1100 [Re: [BackupPC-users] Backing up the backup to an external USB drive]: Rodrigo Real wrote: [...] Adam Goryachev wrote: The only problem I see is that I don't have disk space to make a snapshot and after it to dd the file to the usb disk, I never used this snapshot feature, I will see if I can redirect the file as a pipe directly to the usb drive. You could always reduce your FS size, to make space for the snapshots, depending on your pool size/etc I think the point to point out is that making an LVM snapshot does not involve copying the whole partition. You need a limited amount of free space in the VG - enough to hold the changes to the LV during the life time of the snapshot. LVM presents to you the (unchanging) snapshot on the one hand and the normal (read-write) LV on the other hand, both as block devices. You do *not* get a file containing an image of your LV (well, you can create that yourself, but there is no reason to do that). The difficult part is to figure out beforehand *how much* space you will need for the snapshot. That depends on how long you need the snapshot and how much write activity on your LV will occur during this time. Yesterday I read a little about the LVM snapshot, I didn't know that LVM had this feature. When I read that suggestion I thought that snapshot was a sort of dd. By now I am running a dd on the snapshot, I opened some space on the lvm by reducing the root size and created the snapshot. If you can do all of it outside of your backup window, you will need virtually no space for the snapshot, but then again, you wouldn't really need a snapshot in this case :). Currently I believe that I can stop backuppc and perform the copy of the data, but I don't know if in the future it will still be possible, so I am trying to do everything considering that the data may change while I am performing the copy. That said, you *will* need *some* space in your VG, so if it's all allocated right now, you will need to reduce the size of your root or backup volumes. On the bright side, that would mean you have some spare space on your USB disk for a live root partition. Yes, I have space for everything on the USB HD, I tested the boot from it, and it worked fine, so I guess that this idea will work greatly. I intend to publish this recipe on the Backuppc Wiki, I guess that Tips Tricks is a good place for it, am I right? Rodrigo -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Backing up the backup to an external USB drive
Adam Goryachev wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rodrigo Real wrote: Hello Adam Adam Goryachev wrote: Step 1) Use LVM's snapshot feature to take a snapshot of your root and backuppc partitions. Step 2) dd the snapshot to the two partitions on your USB HDD You won't be able to boot from the USB directly, because as you said, you would need to install grub, adjust the menu.lst, etc to make it work. If you had a USB drive larger than 500GB, eg, a 750GB drive, then you could do so much more :) I was thinking about running a small shell script that would do this adjustments just after the end of the copy process. This script would mount the usb partitions e edit those files. ie, setup the 3rd partition as the active partition, install grub to this partition, and configure the menu.lst file as needed. Then use the first two partitions the same as above. This is a good idea, and would simplify the process. Re-structuring the thoughts, maybe I could do: 1 - copy the /boot and root partitions just once in a while, or maybe rsync it in a low frequency, excluding the files that should be adjusted 2 - in a higher frequency take a snapshot of the backuppc lvm volume to the usb drive This way I guess some problems would be solved: * I don't have to take a snapshot of a mounted and live root system, which I guess would cause problems (as said by Tino) * I don't have to make that script to adjust everything everytime I do a backup If a script can fix it properly, why not do it on the same frequancy (if you can solve problem 1) ? You are completely right, no reason for not synching everything... The only problem I see is that I don't have disk space to make a snapshot and after it to dd the file to the usb disk, I never used this snapshot feature, I will see if I can redirect the file as a pipe directly to the usb drive. You could always reduce your FS size, to make space for the snapshots, depending on your pool size/etc Yes, I reduced the root system and the snapshot backup is running right now. Rodrigo Regards, Adam -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJQauqGyoxogrTyiURAuwMAKDTv2F/kjW1W2s9GHn5eTJP0cu2AACfUrhd 5h9rGH+JAUsacn0tRswiZf4= =3ztI -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Backing up the backup to an external USB drive
Hi Les Mikesell wrote: Rodrigo Real wrote: The only problem I see is that I don't have disk space to make a snapshot and after it to dd the file to the usb disk, I never used this snapshot feature, I will see if I can redirect the file as a pipe directly to the usb drive. You could always reduce your FS size, to make space for the snapshots, depending on your pool size/etc I think the point to point out is that making an LVM snapshot does not involve copying the whole partition. You need a limited amount of free space in the VG - enough to hold the changes to the LV during the life time of the snapshot. LVM presents to you the (unchanging) snapshot on the one hand and the normal (read-write) LV on the other hand, both as block devices. You do *not* get a file containing an image of your LV (well, you can create that yourself, but there is no reason to do that). The difficult part is to figure out beforehand *how much* space you will need for the snapshot. That depends on how long you need the snapshot and how much write activity on your LV will occur during this time. Yesterday I read a little about the LVM snapshot, I didn't know that LVM had this feature. When I read that suggestion I thought that snapshot was a sort of dd. By now I am running a dd on the snapshot, I opened some space on the lvm by reducing the root size and created the snapshot. If you can do all of it outside of your backup window, you will need virtually no space for the snapshot, but then again, you wouldn't really need a snapshot in this case :). Currently I believe that I can stop backuppc and perform the copy of the data, but I don't know if in the future it will still be possible, so I am trying to do everything considering that the data may change while I am performing the copy. To make the filesystem clean, you really should stop backuppc and unmount the archive partition during the copy. With the snapshot approach you'd only need to have it unmounted for the time it takes to make the snapshot, but realistically, most machines will be almost unusably slow during a partition copy to usb (at least for anything using the source partition), so you won't gain that much by letting backuppc continue to run. I am feeling it right now, I umounted backuppc partition and the load of the machine is 4! So it is almost impossible to do anything else with it... Rodrigo I do something similar with raid1 mirroring, stopping and unmounting just long enough to break the raid, but performance is horrible if a backup runs during the mirror sync. -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
[BackupPC-users] Backing up the backup to an external USB drive
Hello, I've been quiet for some months, but I've been trying to read the messages in the way I can. Now I am running to the list to ask a question that has been discussed here some time before (maybe many times), but I could not find a solution that fits exactly on my needs, maybe I wasn't able to identify it... Let me tell you the full story... I have a backuppc server with 3 250GB Sata disks running in Software RAID-5 with LVM built on top of it. This systems is been running for quite some time now. This server is in a different building from where we have most of our computers and our servers. But now we got a little more paranoid, so we want to backup the backuppc server, and take it home. We want to do this process at least once a month, by now we don't believe that we need a greater frequency. So, I bought an USB external drive with 500GB and now I am thinking about what is the best way to do it. My first attempt is to dd each partition of the backuppc server and save it as files on the usb disk. This seems to be a simple solution and maybe it is good enough. But I was wondering if it wouldn't be possible to dd the entire installation, and have a sort of LiveHD. That would be really good and easy to use in case of panic. My installation looks like this: /dev/mapper/vg-root on / type reiserfs (rw) /dev/md0 on /boot type reiserfs (rw,notail) /dev/mapper/vg-backup on /var/lib/backuppc type reiserfs (rw) I am thinking about creating 3 partitions on the usb hard drive and to dd each of this disks to its corresponding partition. I guess that this could work, but I see that there will be some issues: * After dd I will have to mount the usb system and adjust fstab * I will have to boot on the system on a liveCD to do this, or I will have to remount the root system as read-only to run dd * install grub on the usb disk (never did this...). maybe some adjustments on menu.lst will be needed. * don't know if I can boot the usb drive directly on any computer ( I guess that this is not a problem since I can get a not old computer) What do you think of this? Does it seems to be reasonable? Thanks for any comments or help, Rodrigo -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] First backup failed
Hi Jockes Jockes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jockes wrote: The log below was from the host and the global log says: 2008-01-08 22:37:40 Reading hosts file 2008-01-08 22:37:40 BackupPC started, pid 12469 ... ... tarExtract: Done: 0 errors, 2461 filesExist, 0 sizeExist, 0 sizeExistComp, 47883 filesTotal, 13190814719 sizeTotal Running: /usr/bin/env LC_ALL=C /bin/tar -c -v -f - -C /var/vmail --totals . full backup started for directory /var/vmail Xfer PIDs are now 30851,30850 /bin/tar: /var/vmail: Cannot chdir: Permission denied /bin/tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now Tar exited with error 512 () status tarExtract: Done: 0 errors, 0 filesExist, 0 sizeExist, 0 sizeExistComp, 0 filesTotal, 0 sizeTotal Got fatal error during xfer (No files dumped for share /var/vmail) Backup aborted (No files dumped for share /var/vmail) I have a lot of permission errors n /etc as well... How should backuppc be configured to resolve these permission denied errors? I guess you have two paths to follow. You can directly make backuppc access your files, which is what you are doing, then backuppc user must have read acces to all files and read/execute access to all directories. You can do this adding backuppc user to the groups that own those directories, and giving the read/execute access to the group. Somebody once send some tips for using sudo to do this, I think you can try that if you are familiar with sudo. Another approach, which I think is easier, is to treat your localhost as a remote host, and do the backup using rsync+ssh, or tar+ssh. Hope this helps, Rodrigo - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Re-install Backuppc
Hi Jockes Jockes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello, I have backuppc installed a long time ago but removed (apt-get remove backuppc) it due to I used another approach. Now however I want to give it a more serious evaluation and tried to install it (apt-get install backuppc). It seems that it discovered the previous installation and didn't install correctly. I got errors for apache and didn't get all configuration files (e.g. missing /etc/backuppc/apache.conf). How can I remove backuppc completely and get a clean/fresh installation? You can try: apt-get remove --purge backuppc This should remove everything, even configuration files. Rodrigo Using Ubuntu 7.10 (the previous backuppc installation was using 7.04 and was upgraded to 7.10) Thanks in advance for any help... BR/Jocke - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
[BackupPC-users] ssh, rsync and root access
Hello I've been using backuppc to backup several hosts in a lan. Most of them are backep up with rsync+ssh using root access. Now I am backing up a host which is also connected to the Internet, and which does not accept direct root access through ssh. I looked at some alternatives and ended up with changing sshd_config to PermitRootLogin directive to: PermitRootLogin without-password I think that this issue would be a good one for a Topic somewhere on the wiki, maybe inside de FAQ. I am sure that there are lots of different solutions on this topic. Best regards, Rodrigo - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] ssh, rsync and root access
dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi i would really consider NOT addowing root login on ssh without a password. HUGE security hole. instead, use a shared key so that you can get no-password logins for machines you provide a key for. much much safer! I guess that you lost the point here, the meaning of without-password in this case is not what you are thinking. From sshd_config manual: , | If this option is set to ``without-password'', password authenti- | cation is disabled for root. ` The main idea is to provide root access through ssh only when the shared key method is in use. No interactive login for root. This is another way to prevent from brute force attacks. Rodrigo On Nov 14, 2007 5:13 AM, Rodrigo Real [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello I've been using backuppc to backup several hosts in a lan. Most of them are backep up with rsync+ssh using root access. Now I am backing up a host which is also connected to the Internet, and which does not accept direct root access through ssh. I looked at some alternatives and ended up with changing sshd_config to PermitRootLogin directive to: PermitRootLogin without-password I think that this issue would be a good one for a Topic somewhere on the wiki, maybe inside de FAQ. I am sure that there are lots of different solutions on this topic. Best regards, Rodrigo - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] backuppc problem
dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi ?? im not sure why you would be getting a gdk error. if you dont already know, gdk is a graphics framework for gnome and xfce and the Xlib is an access library for gdk to talk to X windows. it looks like your ssh client does some gdk calls. what distro are you on? this looks like a gentoo thing, am i wrong? The problem seems to be related to the ssh-askpass program, probably the keys are not corrected configured to work without a password, and ssh is trying to run ssh-askpass. Don't know exactly how this works, but if the keys are correct, I think that everything will work fine. Try to run ssh as backuppc user, to see if you can connect to the hello.com host. Good Luck! Rodrigo On 10/17/07, Varuna Nohar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi all i'm getting the error while taking the backup with backuppc. I came out of this prolem by changing --devices to -Das suggested by some one but now again the problem is same so nw what shd i do ?plz help me . Contents of file /var/lib/backuppc/pc/hello.com/XferLOG.bad, modified 2007-10-18 09:33:27 Running: /usr/bin/ssh -q -x -l root hello.com /usr/bin/rsync --server --sender --numeric-ids --perms --owner --group --devices --links --times --block-size=2048 --recursive --ignore-times . /home/ Xfer PIDs are now 6566 Got remote protocol 1936926730 Fatal error (bad version): (ssh-askpass:6567): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib Read EOF: Tried again: got 0 bytes fileListReceive() failed Done: 0 files, 0 bytes Got fatal error during xfer (fileListReceive failed) Backup aborted (fileListReceive failed) - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Any way to limit disk space?
Arch Willingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi Arch
Is there any way to automatically tell BackupPC to limit the amount
of disk space it uses (a % of the disk or x GB used or x GB free,
etc)?
I guess DfMaxUsagePct in the config.pl file do what you want:
, /etc/backuppc/config.pl (in Debian)
| #
| # Maximum threshold for disk utilization on the __TOPDIR__ filesystem.
| # If the output from $Conf{DfPath} reports a percentage larger than
| # this number then no new regularly scheduled backups will be run.
| # However, user requested backups (which are usually incremental and
| # tend to be small) are still performed, independent of disk usage.
| # Also, currently running backups will not be terminated when the disk
| # usage exceeds this number.
| #
| $Conf{DfMaxUsagePct} = '95';
`
Rodrigo
Thanks!
Arch
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Re: [BackupPC-users] wiki
Hi Toni Van Remortel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: dan wrote: i have add some content to the wiki backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net i have ripped some data off of the mainpage for 'features' and 'supported systems' and whatnot under the FAQ section. also started the Installation section, added entries for ubuntu 7.04 and 7.10 and the ever important License! Cool. I added the Debian Etch install instructions, and a small proposal for LoCUS (List of Custom User Scripts) [name to be dfined ;-)] I added the idea of installing some extra packages in debian. Also added a line telling where the main directories will be. The wiki is becaming very nice! Rodrigo I'll add some more soon. -- Toni Van Remortel, MSc Linux System Engineer @ Precision Operations NV +32 3 452 92 26 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] wiki and forums
Hi David Nalley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thursday 11 October 2007 16:30:57 Nils Breunese (Lemonbit) wrote: backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net/. Anyone willing to setup a sort of skeleton for the wiki? I think that would be a lot better than having a free for all and trying to fix it later. Nils Breunese. I agree wholeheartedly, a structure needs to exist - I created: http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net/ProposedWikiStructure and filled in some rough ideas - please feel free to edit and comment. I made some edits for your avaliation. Added this two itens: Basic Infrastructure - Here we could put things like: Recomendations for having a safe BackupPC platform, no-breaks and their control software, LVM, RAID, etc. Stories - Here we could have a list of pages, where people could tell us their stories, and show how they use BackupPC. As we are using Sourceforge for everything, which really seems to be the best option, isn't that a good idea to have users scripts in a separate cvs repository under backuppc project? This way we could have a Tips and Tricks wiki section that points to that code when necessary, and we get version control, which in a wiki would be a little complicate. Rodrigo - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] On-demand backups of laptops
Nils Breunese (Lemonbit) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Toni Van Remortel wrote: That reminds me about something: is there a kind of 'BackupPC Script Repository' somewhere? If not, what webbased framework should I use to set one up? Got plenty of webspace and traffic at hand :-) Maybe a wiki? That would be suitable for more than just a script repository. I believe others have said they'd like to see a BackupPC wiki in the past on the list, but a wiki needs maintainance. Did I hear somewhere that SourceForge (where BackupPC is hosted) is also providing wikis nowadays? Craig would have to set that up then (but probably doesn't have the time to maintain it?). You could also just setup anonymous FTP and have people mail their script to you if Web 2.0 is not a requirement. :o) I think this is a nice idea, but in this case, cvs or svn would be a better choice. I would like to see a Wiki for things like: backuppc experiences, backuppc setups (hardware and software), tragic histories, list of things you should not do, list of things you should do, etc. The scripts could have a section in this wiki, but I think that version control is a must have when talking about code. Some time ago I came up with the idea of a backuppc wiki, but it seemed that everybody (even me) were too busy to take the idea on. If someone is interested I could provide some infrastructure for this. I work in a Univercity and have a server with a Trac (http://trac.edgewall.org/) installation, which could handle a wiki, svn and ticket system. This could serve a sort of backuppc-contrib project. Cheers, Rodrigo Nils. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] setting up the web interface
Curtis Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Curtis Well, while it might seem to you like I'm trying to get to Barcelona but I haven't arrived yet, to me it is more along the lines of I am trying to get out of the room but I can't find the door. Thanks for the link. I made the changes that were referred to in the docs, in reference to the httpd.conf file but when I try accessing the page with http://ip_address/BackupPC:8080 I just get a 401 error message stating that it cannot display or find the page. One of the problems is that you are using the wrong URL, you should write: http://ip_address:8080/BackupPC In the way you did, your webserver is trying to find an entry called BackupPC:8080, which doesn't exist. Rodrigo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith Edmunds Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 6:46 AM To: backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] setting up the web interface On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 06:35:21 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I have not been able to get the web interface configured for BackupPC. That's a bit like saying I'm trying to get to Barcelona but I haven't arrived yet. So, could someone point me to a guide or give some instructions on how to configure the web interface? Perhaps you could tell us what the symptoms are, what you've tried so far, etc? You might like to read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html The help on this list is, in my experience, excellent, but you have to give those who are trying to help a clue. Keith - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] How to schedule a backup
FleX [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi FleX
I'm a new BackupPC's user, and I don't understand how can I schedule a
backup.
For example: I have a notebook , and I'd like to backup ONLY it at 13:00
every week (incremental) on saturday and every month for a full backup.
How can I do it ?
I find only these option, but I don't know how to set them.
$Conf{FullPeriod} = 6.97;
$Conf{IncrPeriod} = 0.97;
Take a look at $Conf{BlackoutPeriods}, there you can set the days and
hours that you DON'T want to backup.
Rodrigo
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Best
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Re: [BackupPC-users] partial backups over internet
Rob Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Rob My concern becomes that a full over-the-internet backup will take quite a lot of days. Are there any special precautions I need to take in order to ensure that file transfers don't get wasted (eg, after 3 days of transferring files, the internet connection goes down, but the full backup did not complete). I think BackupPC retains and re-uses partial full backups. But what happens in the case of multiple partial full backups? I am not sure, but I believe that in this case backupc will keep every file it transfer, until your full is complete. I think that it will not keep partial transfered files, so if you have a very large file that never finishes to download (maybe because of a rsync timeout), your full will never complete. I don't think partial incremental backups get retained, but correct me if I'm wrong. Do I need to configure BackupPC to perform only full backups until the initial full completes? Or is BackupPC smart enough to not try an incremental until a complete full backup has been done? Your backuppc will keep trying to complete the full backup before trying any incremental. You don't have to manually control this. Rodrigo Thanks for your help. -Rob - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Renaming a host
Systeem- en Netwerkbeheer OW [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi One reasonable approach is to disable the backup from the old names, and to add the new ones as new hosts. It is not a great solution, but could work. Rodrigo Keith Edmunds wrote: On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 16:11:26 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Renaming it in the hosts file and renaming it's directory doesn't work. doesn't work in what way? In the console, I only see the new name, without any backups behind it. I seem to recall that that is all I did when I renamed a server. Did you reload the BackupPC configuration file after the rename? Yes I did. I stopped the backuppc daemon, changed the config, and started the daemon again. No luck though. -- Toni Van Remortel Systeem- en Netwerkbeheer HA - Dept. Ontwerpwetenschappen Mutsaardstraat 31 2000 Antwerpen [EMAIL PROTECTED] - +32 473 73 14 40 - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
[BackupPC-users] Automatic Samba hosts configuration
Hi Guys Some weeks ago I sent a message to the list, saying that I would like to have a Windows Installer for backuppc clients. I never started that, and started to think that maybe in some cases I could do almost everything from the server. So, considering I will do backups using smb transfer method, I only need that the shares be configured on the clients, and that backuppc have at least read access. I made a simple prototype to search for shares on the local network and to add the machines to the hosts configuration file, and to create the host specific configuration file in backkuppc config directory. It seems to be working. It doesn't have any options by now, you can customize some thinks directly in the begining of the source code. Please take a look at it before testing. I am sending you the file in case you want to give a try and send some opinions. The script was made with Chicken, which is a scheme implementation, so you will need it if you want to test the script. You can download Chicken from here: http://www.call-with-current-continuation.org/ Best regards, Rodrigo backuppc-smb-autoconf.scm Description: Binary data - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] dissapointed and lost
ilias [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Ilias I don't think you are so lost, you made a lot of things, and just didn't find the right solution for you. I tried usign rsync. I setup a windows client with the Rsyncd process running at the background. Everything seems to be fine but I still get the same error when backing up the same files and also when I try to restore I get the error Restore failed on hostname (Unable to read 4 bytes). I am not sure, but I think this error means that backuppc is not able to autenticate or connect to the client host. Good luck, Rodrigo I initially tried backuppc on 2 virtual machines (one debian4 server, one winXP) and I never got the first error (BackupPC_link got error -4 when calling MakeFileLink /blah/random) which leads me to believe that something went wrong with the installation of backuppc in the psysical debian4 server. However the 2nd error persists in both virtual and physical installments making me unable to restore files when using rsync. Can anyone point me ..or write a guide on how to setup backuppc on a Debian 4 machine and make it take backups from a windows machine using rsyncd ? cheers - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC won't take scheduled backups
ilias [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Ilias I got BackupPC 3.0 up and running. I'm currently testing it with a windows client using a samba share. I haven't touched anything in the default configuration with which I believe the server should take backups of all hosts every 1 hour excluding the blackout period which is the only thing I changed in order to test it. This is the last line of the logs, and every time that passes it reproduces the same message. 2007-07-04 10:00:00 Next wakeup is 2007-07-04 11:00:00 And just that, no backups are been taken by the system. Take a look at your Host Summary screen, and tell us what is the last attempt message for this host. Also if I manually take incremental backups after I make some changes in the files of the share, for instance, change the filename of a file, the incremental backup won't see that change and take backup of the file with its older filename. I have to take full backups in order to store updated files. Any solutions to that ? I've read somewhere that samba method won't be able to detect file changes and I'll have to install cygwin in every client in order to use rsync which does proper backup of updated files, is that true ? This seems to be a problem with the samba transfer method, take a look at: , http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/faq/roadMap.html | Replacing smbclient with the perl module FileSys::SmbClient. This | gives much more direct control of the smb transfer, allowing | incrementals to depend on any attribute change (eg: exist, mtime, file | size, uid, gid), and better support for include and exclude. Currently | smbclient incrementals only depend upon mtime, so deleted files or | renamed files are not detected. FileSys::SmbClient would also allow | resuming of incomplete full backups in the same manner as rsync will. ` Maybe this rsync windows package will help: http://itefix.no/cwrsync/ I had never used it, ok? Maybe you could send some feedback about rsync and windows if you go this way. Best regards, Rodrigo - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] /var/lib/backuppc replace HDD
Nils Breunese (Lemonbit) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Stefan Degen wrote: Nils Breunese (Lemonbit) [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: P.S. You could also just start over and keep the old disk around for emergency... This is a quite good idea. If there is an emergency, i only need to change the harddisk again? Backuppc will not be angy :-)? If you stop the backuppc daemon before unmounting and removing the drive, I think it should be fine, but I haven't tried this myself. I also think it would work. If you are in a hurry, don't try to copy the files, it will take a long time, and you will have to stop doing backups during this time. I had a problem with a disk in a LVM last week, I had something like 120GB of data in the backuppc pool, and it took almost 4 days to copy everything to another disk. Of course, one of my disks had some errors which slows the copy, but most of the time was spent for re-creating the hard links. Rodrigo Nils Breunese. - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC won't take scheduled backups
ilias [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi
ok i've managed to make it work. Scheduled backups are working ok and updated
files are stored correctly using rsyncd (i used the cygwin-rsync packet on the
windows client). I need to ask you one thing though. IncrPeriod is set as
default 0.97, does this mean backuppc takes incremental backups once per day ?
and what time of day does it take the backup ?
I would like to make it take incremental backups of every pc at 18:00 every
day
and full backups once per week on mondays at 21:00.
In backuppc you don't schedule a specific time for a backup to start,
instead, you specify the wakeup times, in which it will try to do
the backups, and you specify the blackout period in which it will not
do backups. So you should play with this values to make what you
want.
Also take a look at $Conf{MaxBackups} and $Conf{MaxUserBackups}, which
define how many backups you will do simultaneously.
Rodrigo
thanks for you reply
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Re: [BackupPC-users] cloning the backup pool
Rob Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Rob Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom wrote: On 06/29 08:21 , Rob Owens wrote: Should I have the BackupPC server in office A do a nightly backup of all the file shares in office B? Or should office A do a nightly backup of the pool directory in office B? Or should I simply rsync the pool directory from office B to office A every night using a cron job? Don't try to rsync the pools. The number of hardlinks (lots of files) will be murderous on the rsync memory requirements. Just do backups in parallel; with office A backing up office B's machines once per day, and vice versa. Thanks for the input. Is it possible for me to give assign different backup schedules for different machines? (I don't currently have BackupPC installed, and I couldn't tell by scanning through the documentation). In my case, I want local backups to happen hourly, but I want remote backups to occur only once a night. Yes, you schedule each of your hosts. You can have a default schedule, and then you can specify the different ones. Rodrigo -Rob - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Incremental Backup every two hours
Chir patel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Chir Hi there I am trying to do an Incremental backup dataserver Departmental data (word,excel,access,pics,pdf files) every two hours. Size of the departmental data folder is about 80 GB. I have installed Backup pc, I have done following 1) Changed confil.pl using web interface so that backup starts every 2 hours. [ 7,9,11,13,15,17,19] 2) Changed the Backout period from 20 to 6 3) Changed number of incremental backup to 140 4) Change minmum days before next full backup to 30.97 5) change minimium no of full backup to keep. 1 what else do I need to configure to achieve Incremental backup every 2 hours ? It seems right. What error message(s) are you getting? Also if a file that has been created on my dataserer after full backup, will that file be backed up every incremental backup ? Yes, all files will be backed up, it doesn't matter if the backup is full or incremental. Keep in mind that backuppc stores just once each identical file. Regards, Rodrigo Thank you in advance for all your help. Regards Chir - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Automating windows clients installation
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lemonbit) writes: Hi Nils Rodrigo Real wrote: My idea is to build a sort of installer for this situation, which with a few questions would do the job. But I don't have any experience with this kind of thing in the windows world. I believe it could be done with Inno Setup (http://www.jrsoftware.org/isinfo.php), which seems to be a nice program, but I never used it. You might also want to check out NSIS [0], the installer created by the guys that make Winamp and which is being used by lots of programs. It seems to be a very good software, it seems to be better than Inno Setup. I am going to download it and make some experiments. Would anybody else be interested a project like this? Rodrigo Nils Breunese. [0] http://nsis.sourceforge.net/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
[BackupPC-users] Automating windows clients installation
Hi guys I am using backuppc with success for at least 3 years, I backup mostly linux servers, but also have some windows hosts. Some of these linux machines are through a VPN, using openVPN. Now I am thinking about backing up some disperse Windows hosts using the Internet as the network, with the backuppc server in a safe place. The idea is that the amount of data on each machine will be something like 100-200MB. One of the problems I see are the difficulties related to installing and configuring OpenVPN on windows, configure the samba shares, and backuppc. Although this is not a very very hard problem, it is for final users. My idea is to build a sort of installer for this situation, which with a few questions would do the job. But I don't have any experience with this kind of thing in the windows world. I believe it could be done with Inno Setup (http://www.jrsoftware.org/isinfo.php), which seems to be a nice program, but I never used it. Do you think it is a good idea to implement this sort of thing? The main question seems to be: Is this sort of thing already available? Best regards, Rodrigo - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Rebuilding backups file
Rodrigo Real [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi guys I am writing just to give some feedback. I upgraded my system to etch (debian current stable version), and upgraded the backuppc package to 3.0.0-2, which is a packaged version of backuppc for debian unstable. Everything is going fine, I reconstructed the backups file, as Craig said, with the following command: /usr/share/backuppc/bin/BackupPC_fixupBackupSummary -l independence Thanks for the help, Rodrigo In 3.0.0 there is a script BackupPC_fixupBackupSummary that re-creates the backups file. An extra copy of the relevant information is stored in each numbered backup directory. BackupPC_fixupBackupSummary can also try to recover that information from the LOG files in the case of backups made prior to 3.x that don't have this meta data saved. 3.x is also more careful about how it writes these files: it writes to a temporary and does a readback comparison before renaming the file. You could upgrade and try BackupPC_fixupBackupSummary, but upgrading right after you had problems on the system might add too much perceived risk for your liking. I already have another server with the 3.0 version running, but I was too lasy (or busy) too upgrade this one. I will wait a little bit, to see if everything is really ok, and after that, will upgrade the system. Thanks for the tips, specially for the one about BackupPC_fixupBackupSummary. Rodrigo Craig - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
[BackupPC-users] Rsync + SSH and unix domain sockets (was Re: Rebuilding backups file)
Rodrigo Real [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi again
In my last emails I did not told you the full story, because I thought
that it would be irrelevant, but I am experiencing another problem
now.
Before the power loss problem, I upgraded the ltsp server
(independence) I run in this site, and after that, backuppc stoped to
back it up, the problem seemed to be with unix-domain sockets and
FIFOs (represented by p on ls -l output). I was putting all files of
this kind I could found in $Conf{BackupFilesExclude} and running some
tests when I had the power failure.
I already had this problem with unix sockets and fifos on another
site, and I did this same workaround. But I am not very happy with it.
I am running the backups in rsync+ssh mode and have the following
debian packages versions:
, backuppc server
| libfile-rsyncp 0.52-1
| rsync 2.6.4-6
`
, independence server
| libfile-rsync-perl 0.42-1
| libfile-rsyncp-perl 0.52-1
| rsync2.6.9-2
`
I believe that the problem should be with the different versions of
rsync.
Anyway, in the next week I will upgrade this backuppc system, but as I
have other hosts been backedup by this same backuppc server, I would
like to understand this problem, which is a little obscure to me right
now.
Cheers,
Rodrigo
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Rsync + SSH and unix domain sockets
Holger Parplies [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi,
Rodrigo Real wrote on 05.05.2007 at 11:38:40 [[BackupPC-users] Rsync + SSH
and unix domain sockets (was Re: Rebuilding backups file)]:
[...]
Before the power loss problem, I upgraded the ltsp server
(independence) I run in this site, and after that, backuppc stoped to
back it up, the problem seemed to be with unix-domain sockets and
FIFOs (represented by p on ls -l output). I was putting all files of
this kind I could found in $Conf{BackupFilesExclude} and running some
tests when I had the power failure.
did you s/--devices/-D/ ?
Humm... No.
Just check the man page of rsync and found that!
Thanks a lot!
Regards,
Rodrigo
Regards,
Holger
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[BackupPC-users] Rebuilding backups file
Hi guys I had a power failure problem on a machine where I run backuppc 2.1.1, it is a debian system. I was running a backupc_dump in HOST when the problem ocurred, and the /var/lib/backuppc/pc/HOST/backups corrupted. The only problem seems to be with this index file and status.pl. I just removed status.pl, and backuppc re-made it. I dont know if this was the best thing to do in this situation, but everything else seems to be fine. My question is: is there any way to rebuild backups file based on the data available in the disk? Cheers, Rodrigo - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Rebuilding backups file
Craig Barratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Craig Rodrigo writes: The only problem seems to be with this index file and status.pl. I just removed status.pl, and backuppc re-made it. I dont know if this was the best thing to do in this situation, but everything else seems to be fine. That's perfectly fine. status.pl will be rebuilt and, over time, the per-host status information will get updated. Ok. My question is: is there any way to rebuild backups file based on the data available in the disk? The prior version of the backups should be saved in backups.old. Check if that file exists is non-empty and correct. If so, copy it to backups. This file is corrupted also... I think one of the problems I have, is that this system is running with xfs. This filesystem seems to behave very bad on power losses. I had a similar problem with another machine that runs xfs. In 3.0.0 there is a script BackupPC_fixupBackupSummary that re-creates the backups file. An extra copy of the relevant information is stored in each numbered backup directory. BackupPC_fixupBackupSummary can also try to recover that information from the LOG files in the case of backups made prior to 3.x that don't have this meta data saved. 3.x is also more careful about how it writes these files: it writes to a temporary and does a readback comparison before renaming the file. You could upgrade and try BackupPC_fixupBackupSummary, but upgrading right after you had problems on the system might add too much perceived risk for your liking. I already have another server with the 3.0 version running, but I was too lasy (or busy) too upgrade this one. I will wait a little bit, to see if everything is really ok, and after that, will upgrade the system. Thanks for the tips, specially for the one about BackupPC_fixupBackupSummary. Rodrigo Craig - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Strange Backuppc Problem with rsync
Paulo Cardoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Paulo I had a similar problem with a client host that had a different rsync version. I did not read the begining of this thread, but maybe this could be your case. Rodrigo Hi, Thanks but this didn't fixed it. I still get the same error. As I said, it only happends sametimes. Regarding the backup, if I select a small folder, nothing happends. If I select a folder with many many files and sub-folders, I can see rsync starts listing it... I'd like to test the backup on a small folder with about 200 files but it doesn't work. I'm getting crazy with it as I can't find the problem.. On 2/11/07, Craig Barratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paulo writes: xferPids 10100 Rsync command pid is 10100 Got remote protocol 1768191091 Checksum seed is 1763719790 Got checksumSeed 0x69203a6e [snip] Sometimes I get Fatal error (bad version): stdin: is not a tty between Yes - the first 8 bytes sent from the client should be the protocol version and the checksum seed. Instead the ascii characters stdin: is not a tty is sent instead. The most likely cause is that root's .cshrc (or equivalent) is doing an stty. You should change it so that it doesn't do an stty on a non-login shell. For csh/tcsh you could do something like this if ( ! $?USER || $prompt == || ! $?term ) then # done for non-interactive shell exit endif prior to running login-shell commands like stty. Craig - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier. Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier. Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] File-RsyncP-0.66 released on CPAN and SF
Hi guys I just released File-RsyncP-0.66 on CPAN and SF. This is a bug fix release. Here are the changes: - Support turning off --perms option, reported by Cameron Dale. - Applied patches from Mark Weaver to handle skipping duplicate file names. - Added FileList/snprintf.c to handle solaris configure failures. I made a debian package for the new version of File-RsyncP. You can download it from: http://g3pd.ucpel.tche.br/~rreal/download/libfile-rsyncp-perl_0.66_i386.deb Best wishes, Rodrigo Craig Barratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Enjoy! Craig - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Burn Backups to CD
Rob Ogle [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Rob I've got a client who is not comfortable just having their data on the backuppc. They want something they can put in a fireproof safe. What's the best way to implement that with backuppc? Look for Archive functions on the documentation, I think it does exactly what you need. []s Rodrigo - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] 3.0.0 host config files
David Relson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi David I've got 3.0.0 installed and running. Backuppc is reading the config.pl file but isn't reading the config files for specific hosts. As 2.1.2 works fine, so I think the various host.pl files are OK.. What detail am I missing? In 3.0.0 the per-hosts configuration moved to /etc/BackupPC/pc/host.pl. You should move your files to this place. Rodrigo Thanks. David - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] 3.0.0 host config files
David Relson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks for the pointer! Does the following look correct: find /etc/BackupPC -name *.pl /etc/BackupPC/config.pl /etc/BackupPC/pc/nic.pl /etc/BackupPC/pc/osage.pl The obvious next question is: How does one view and edit the config info for the hosts, i.e. 'nic' and 'osage' in my example??? By the other message, I guess that you already got the answer... Best wishes, Rodrigo Regards, David - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Disk full
Sebastian Fohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Sebastian What can I do if the disk is full, a resize afterwards seems to be very difficult. is there some possiblity to add some other disk to the backup space without resizing the disk or copying the old file to a new disk? I use LVM in my backuppc data space. With it you can add/remove more disks any time you need, without problems. Best regards, Rodrigo -- Best regards, Far-galaxy Networks Sebastian Fohler mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.far-galaxy.de Tel: 0173 / 8796211 - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Back-up to another host
Paul Guijt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Paul Dear all, I run BackupPC on system 10.0.0.170, and would like to backup to system 10.0.0.254. System 10.0.0.254 can't run BackupPC, but can be reached through ftp and SMB. You want some sort of replication? I think that the main problem of replicating the BackupPC base is that you must keep the hard links in the copy/synchronization process. I think that is not (at least, directly) possible with SMB or ftp, maybe if do some magic using tar, but still, I know nothing about tar and hard links. Can't you install rsync on 10.0.0.254? That should be the easiest way, rsync can preserve hard links with the -H option, additionally it would transfer only the differences between the two hosts. Best wishes, Rodrigo Is that possible? And how? I'm new to BackupPC, so please forgive me if the question has been answered earlier. I couldn't find an answer in the archive, though. Regards, Paul Guijt - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Back-up to another host
Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 10/28 10:23 , Rodrigo Real wrote: Can't you install rsync on 10.0.0.254? That should be the easiest way, rsync can preserve hard links with the -H option, additionally it would transfer only the differences between the two hosts. on the topic of server replication; the problem with using rsync is that it uses a tremendous amount of memory when dealing with millions of files. I tried it once; rsync'ing a 100GB pool (with perhaps 5 or 6 million files) from one disk to another on a box with 512MB RAM and perhaps 1GB swap. I had never tryed that, but I can't think of another way of doing it. I am sure it is hard to rsync two huge mass of files. Maybe it is possible to split the rsync process in some parts, but it will still be hard. Best wishes, Rodrigo the box eventually ran out of memory to the point that I had to power-cycle it to regain control. it's the only time in recent memory that I can think of a linux box needing to be rebooted for a software problem. I know of people who do it; but they're doing it on machines with more memory and fewer files. -- Carl Soderstrom Systems Administrator Real-Time Enterprises www.real-time.com - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] per-pc config.pl
Jean-Michel Beuken [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi I had BackupPC 2.1.2 running on a FreeBSD box and then have recently tried to mimic the configuration on a CentOS box with version 3.0.0beta1. My problem is that I can't figure out where to put the per-pc files so that they are read. After reading various suggestions, I have tried putting them in: /backuppc/data/pc/[host]/config.pl /backuppc/data/[host]/config.pl /etc/BackupPC/[host] /etc/BackupPC/[host].pl /etc/BackupPC/[host]/config.pl for me /etc/BackupPC/pc/[host].pl works For me too, when you create the files using the web interface, that's where they are created. Rodrigo - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Interupted backups, partial files and Rsync
David Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi David Les Mikesell wrote: If your VPN provides any quality-of-service capabilities you might be able to script a change that limits the bandwidth for ssh or to your backuppc destination during work hours. Otherwise we are back to the problem of not being able to restart without losing a partly transferred file. I am using OpenVPN, which can shape / limit a particular connection, but am not sure if it can change the shaping based on time, without stopping and starting OpenVPN, which may well upset Rsync. It still really doesn't get around the root problem of a large partially transferred file not being able to be restarted. I think you should work on RsyncP to try to solve the root problem. There seems to be no other way to go ... Rodrigo - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] user backuppc has no home directory?
naroza [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Should I give backuppc a passwd or will that break something else? Should I even care about unrestricted access to the backuppc user? The backuppc user have access to all data on your backuped machines, and depending on your configuration, can execute any command on any machine. So you must be careful with anything related to it. I never gave a password for this user, I don't think it is necessary, but you can do it if you want. Regards, Rodrigo - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Interupted backups, partial files and Rsync
David Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi David
$Conf{ClientTimeout} = 3600*6; # 6 Hours!!
I have a similar case here and had the same problems when I was
setting everything up. My ClientTimeout is in 8 hours, and I am not
having problems for almost a year.
I know that this is not a good solution for the problem, but if it
works we can use it until we have a better one.
...
If File::RsyncP could keep the partial transfer in its partial-dir
directory, even if BackupPC didn't want to know about the partially
transferred file, at least next attempt File::RsyncP could pick up from
where it left off.
It seems to be a good idea to me, but I never looked to File::RsyncP
code and have no idea of how hard it would be.
Rodrigo
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Problem backing up a machine in the DMZ
Nicolai Nordahl Rasmussen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Nicolai Hmm..very strange. I just tested it again by logging on to the backup server, su to backuppc and did ping -c 1 merkur No reply...It's like it just hangs there...the request never actually got to the firewall (at least that's what my logs tell me). I hit ping -c 1 merkur again, and all was well..very very very odd :( Take a look at /etc/host.conf, you should have order hosts,bind in it, to resolve names preferably in /etc/hosts. You could try to use -W in ping to set a higher timeout, but I don't think the problem is there, maybe in can find a way to make it work, but I am quite sure there is something wrong. For your tests, you could try something like this: while [ 1 ]; do ping -c 1 -W 2 merkur || echo Ping Problem sleep 1s done Gook luck, Rodrigo - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Interupted backups, partial files and Rsync
David Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi David
Hello all,
I am having a problem using BackupPC over a slowish VPN link with large
files. If BackupPC is aborted (mainly due to signal=ALRM) when
transferring a large file, BackupPC appears to delete the partially
transfered file, preventing Rsync from restarting where it dropped off.
I have set the --partial in $Conf{RsyncArgs}, but when the backup is
aborted, the partially transfered file is deleted.
The problem is that each time the same file times out, and as the
partially transfered file is deleted, next backup the same thing
happens, and the backup never completes.
Did you tryed to increase $Conf{ClientTimeout} variable?
Rodrigo
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Full vs the partial back up
McAuley, Frank [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Hello, My company has started to use backup PC with our new POS. After reading the documentation I have a few question. We have 173 computer to back up. There is one file that is 10GB and will change with every computer. We are setting up to run 4 backups at the same time between 2am and 6am. I understand that Backup PC will pool and compress the files and crate hard links to the files that are the same. If I were to create a back up of a store and then did partial backups every day to get only the files that change per store in the Database file and then had to run a restore would I only have to run the one full back up and then the latest partial back up? I am not sure if I understood your question, but possibly the answer is 'yes'. This is what I understood: you want to do full backups, let's say weekly, and _incremental_ (not partial, which is another thing in backuppc) backups daily. If you need to restore, you will do it using the last incremental, you don't even have to look to your last full. Also, with the archive function back up pc see a USB external hard disk drive and then write to that device? Yes, I think you can use anything you can mount. Best regards, Rodrigo - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] (pas de sujet)
Vincent [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Backuppc run now but i have a problem with the cgi interface. The following error : You don't have permission to access /backuppc/cgi-bin/ on this server. It seems an apache problem but i can't solve it. This message comes before or after you authenticate? Rodrigo - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] (pas de sujet)
Vincent [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Rodrigo Real a écrit : Vincent [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Backuppc run now but i have a problem with the cgi interface. The following error : You don't have permission to access /backuppc/cgi-bin/ on this server. It seems an apache problem but i can't solve it. This message comes before or after you authenticate? Rodrigo After. My authenticate works fine. Take a look at your apache log file to see if it gives you any clue. Rodrigo Thanks - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] [BackupPC-devel] BackupPC 3.0.0beta1 released
Craig Barratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi I made a debian package for File::RsyncP version 0.64. You can download it here if you would like: http://g3pd.ucpel.tche.br/~rreal/download/libfile-rsyncp-perl_0.64-1_i386.deb I used this package in a Debian testing system, don't know if it will work in anything else... Rodrigo I have released BackupPC 3.0.0beta1 on SF at: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ A new version 0.64 of File::RsyncP that is needed for rsync hardlink support has also been released on SF and CPAN. I've attached the ChangeLog with the changes since 3.0.0beta0. 3.0.0beta1 has some substantial new features compared to 2.1.2. New features include: * Added configuration and host CGI editor. * Added rsync hardlink support. Requires latest version of File::RsyncP (0.64). * Decoupled BackupPC_dump from BackupPC_nightly by making asynchronous file linking/delete robust to race conditions. Now only BackupPC_nightly and BackupPC_link are mutually exclusive so only one runs at a time, and BackupPC_dump and BackupPC_restore can run anytime. * Added support for multi-level incrementals. In the style of dump(1), the level of each incremental can be specified. Each incremental backups up everything since the most recent backup of a lower level (fulls are always level 0). Previous behavior was all incrementals were level 1, meaning they backed up everything since the last full (level 0). Default configuration is all incrementals are level 1. * Server file names are now in utf8 and optional conversion to/from client name charsets can be configured. All CGI pages now use the utf8 charset. * Added RSS support from Rich Duzenbury. * Added optional checking of exit status of Dump/Restore/Archive Pre/Post UserCmd. * For new installations configure.pl places all the configuration files below /etc/BackupPC, bringing it more in line with the File System Hierarchy Standard (FHS). Depending upon the reported bugs and issues there could be additional patches and beta releases prior to the offical 3.0.0 release. Enjoy! Craig # # Version 3.0.0beta1, 30 Jul 2006 # * Fixed several Xfer charset conversions. * Added some CGI utf8 conversions from Rodrigo Real and Vincent Fleuranceau. * Host name is forced to lower case, to match 2.x. * Fixed LOG file naming in BackupPC_restore and BackupPC_archive. * GFK applied fr.pm corrections from Nicolas Stransky. * Updated init.d/src scripts for FHS (ie: replaced __TOPDIR__/log with __LOGDIR__ and __TOPDIR__/conf with __CONFDIR__). Patch provided by Rodrigo Real. * Added --log-dir and --conf-dir options to configure.pl. Reported by Vincent Fleuranceau. * Updated File::RsyncP version check in configure.pl, reported by Vincent Fleuranceau. Changed File::RsyncP version to 0.64. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ BackupPC-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-devel http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] hosts configuration
don Paolo Benvenuto [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi
Your per-host config files should be in
/var/lib/backuppc/pc/hostname/config.pl.
Your /etc/backuppc/colegio file should be moved to
/var/lib/backuppc/colegio/config.pl, for example.
Gook luck!
Rodrigo
I followed the instructions in http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/backuppc.htm
to configure backuppc, and I put in /etc/backuppc a separate file with
the specific settings for each host:
$ ls -l /etc/backuppc
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1473 2006-06-22 16:37 basica
- ubuntu host
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1473 2006-06-22 16:37 colegio
- ubuntu host
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 64459 2006-06-22 22:18 config.pl
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1517 2006-06-22 22:47 dir-basica
- ubuntu host
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2465 2006-06-24 08:19 hosts
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2006-06-22 16:39 htgroup
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root23 2006-06-22 16:39 htpasswd
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 240 2006-06-22 16:37 localhost.pl
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1473 2006-06-22 16:37 lorenzo
- ubuntu host
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1497 2006-06-23 08:10 misiongenovesa
- debian host
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1473 2006-06-22 16:37 parroquia
- ubuntu host
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1473 2006-06-23 08:20 server-basica
- ubuntu host
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1473 2006-06-22 16:37 suore
- ubuntu host
the various per host configuration are very similar, for example:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/backuppc$ cat basica
$Conf{FullPeriod} = 6.97;
$Conf{IncrPeriod} = 0.97;
$Conf{FullKeepCnt} = 2;
$Conf{IncrKeepCnt} = 6;
$Conf{XferMethod} = 'rsync';
$Conf{RsyncShareName} = '/';
$Conf{BackupFilesOnly} = undef;
$Conf{BackupFilesExclude} = ['/proc', '/dev', '/cdrom', '/media',
'/mnt', '/lost+found'];
$Conf{XferLogLevel} = 1;
$Conf{RsyncClientCmd} = '$sshPath -C -x -l root -o
PreferredAuthentications=publickey $host $rsyncPath $argList+';
$Conf{RsyncClientRestoreCmd} = '$sshPath -C -q -x -l root $host
$rsyncPath $argList+';
$Conf{CompressLevel} = 3;
However, I can see that backuppc doesn't read these per-host files, for
example because it doesn't obey the $Conf{BackupFilesExclude} nor the
$Conf{CompressLevel}.
What is the trick? What should I do? thank you!
$ cat hosts
hostdhcpusermoreUsers # --- do not edit this line
#farside0 craig jill,jeff # --- example static IP host
entry
#larson 1 bill # --- example DHCP host entry
misiongenovesa 0 backuppc
lorenzo 0 backuppc
suore 0 backuppc
parroquia 0 backuppc
basica 0 backuppc
colegio 0 backuppc
dir-basica 0 backuppc
server-basica 0 backuppc
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don Paolo Benvenuto
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Removing backups when disk is full
Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, 2006-04-11 at 09:09, Rodrigo Real wrote: I didn't find any tools to manually remove backups, and I still think we should have one. The brute force approach is to go to the pc/hostname directory and rm -rf some of the numbered backup directories, but you still don't recover the space until BackupPC_Nightly runs and removes the pooled links, and the web page backup list will probably be wrong for a while too. I tried this approach, but I never got the free space back, I was hopping that the nightly routine would remove the files, but it didn't work, maybe because I did not detect exactly what I should delete. The way hardlinks work is that the space for the data is not released until the last link is removed, and all of the files have a link under the cpool directory. The manual approach to that is to cd into the cpool directory and find . -type f -links 1 |xargs rm That is, remove the files in the pool that no longer have any links from pc backup directories, but you can do some damage if you get this wrong. I figured out something similar to your suggestion, but I was a too afraid to do it :) thanks for the idea, Rodrigo -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] received signal=ALRM
Manfred [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi Manfred
Hi,
i am sorry about my bad english but i trie my best.
I have to backup one server with about 50 GB Data.
After some howers i get allweys this
received signal=ALRM
and the backup is nor ready.
I had this kind of problem in many servers. It seems that rsync takes
too long for giving any feedback when it is copying big files. I
usually solve this problem by dividing the backup in many shares,
something like this:
$Conf{RsyncShareName} = ['/bin',
'/boot',
'/etc',
'/lib',
'/root',
'/sbin',
'/usr',
];
Additionally, you can raise the $Conf{ClientTimeout} value.
Hope this helps.
Good luck,
Rodrigo
By other servers with not so many datas is everithing working fine.
Pleas, how can istop this Problem.
Thanks a lott
your
Manfred
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Backuppc Error: Unable to read 4 bytes
Craig Barratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Craig Had anyone experienced a problem like this? What happens when you connect in exactly the same way as the backuppc user: su backuppc ssh -p 222 -q -x -l root HOST whoami Do you get prompted for a password? Do you see any extraneous output other than root? No, it works fine, no password asked, and I get root access. ~$ ssh -p 222 -q -x -l root server whoami root ~$ I didn't told you the full story, there was another strange thing happening with this. The host that I am trying to backup is, in fact, the localhost. I tried to configure it as localhost, to backup all the hard disk, excluding the backup partition of course, but backuppc only backed up /etc. Then I configured backuppc to backup localhost, but using his host name, I thought that backuppc would behave like it was an ordinary host. What happened is that I am experiencing this problem with the ssh server port. I know it is stupid to do it through ssh, but I don't know any other way to do it. Another question, is it possible to use the hostname as localhost and still backup all the hard disk? Thanks a lot, Rodrigo Craig --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
[BackupPC-users] Backuppc Error: Unable to read 4 bytes
Hi guys
I am having a problem with a host that must be backed-up with
backuppc. This host runs an ssh server on the port 222, so I changed
the variable $Conf{RsyncClientCmd} to meet this requirement, but when
I try to run the backup on this host, I receive the error: Unable to
read 4 bytes. Below is the configuration I am using for this
variable, in this host specific config.pl.
$Conf{RsyncClientCmd} = '$sshPath -p 222 -q -x -l root $host $rsyncPath
$argList+';
The other hosts which I backup on this server are working just
fine. Additionally, I can manually connect through ssh to this
problematic host. So I think that there is nothing wrong with ssh or
ssh-key.
Had anyone experienced a problem like this?
Cheers,
Rodrigo
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Wake-on-lan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi Chris
I am trying to get wake-on-lan working for my installation.
I tried '$Conf{DumpPreUserCmd} = /usr/share/wol.sh $host;' and this didn't
work for me. Has anyone else had success with this?
I have gotten as far as implementing the Net::Wake perl module from within
BackupPC_dump perl script.
This correctly wakes the PC but I still get a 'Host not found' error
message. I assume this is because whilst the PC has woken it has not
connected to the network in time for BackupPC to find it.
In short am I approaching this the right way? If I am how do I introduce a
delay between the wake command being issued and BackupPc continuing?
I am not very familiar with wake on lan, but you could insert a sleep
in you DumpPreUserCmd.
An easy way to do it is to insert a sleep in the end of wol.sh, if you
don't want to change anything in this script, just do another one
which calls wol.sh for you and insert the sleep in the end.
The one bellow should be enough, save it and put it in DumpPreUserCmd.
---
#!/bin/bash
wol.sh $1
sleep 1m
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