[BackupPC-users] Quotas whith BackupPC
hello, aahhaah the world is not infinite and my resources (hardware/brain) neither :( Can we implement such feature I'm thinking to put quota on my user, telling them how much data they can backup. To do this, the backup will proceed like: 1 - first do a disk usage (DU) with the exclude path 2 - if not bigger than the quota, start the backup. 3 - else 3.1 - send an email to the person and ask it to remove some folder or some file extension to make his saving data smaller 3.2 - the user launch a DU java WebStart application (GUI) to help him to easily calculate the size of what backuppc lets him to backup 3.3 - when done, the DU application talk with backuppc to let know it about the new configuration and the new size of the data to be saved 3.4 - backuppc start the backup The java application should do something like jDiskReport or JDU or ... - calculate the DU and display it - able to see the tree to backup - set/unset directories to exclude from. - display a small panel of file extensions to remove (.jpg, .mp3 ...) - able to provide as line command options the exclude directories and the file extensions directories) - talk back to the backuppc server the data (exclude directories, exclude file extensions, disk usage) - launch the application as a GUI when launch in 3.2 - launch the application with no GUI when launch in 1 What do you think about such idea. cEd -- Cedric BRINER Geneva - Switzerland -- Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It is the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Xq1LFB ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
[BackupPC-users] backuppc quotas
hello, aahhaah the world is not infinite and my resources (hardware/brain) neither :( Can we implement such feature I'm thinking to put quota on my user, telling them how much data they can backup. To do this, the backup will proceed like: 1 - first do a disk usage (DU) with the exclude path 2 - if not bigger than the quota, start the backup. 3 - else 3.1 - send an email to the person and ask it to remove some folder or some file extension to make his saving data smaller 3.2 - the user launch a DU java WebStart application (GUI) to help him to easily calculate the size of what backuppc lets him to backup 3.3 - when done, the DU application talk with backuppc to let know it about the new configuration and the new size of the data to be saved 3.4 - backuppc start the backup The java application should do something like jDiskReport or JDU or ... - calculate the DU and display it - able to see the tree to backup - set/unset directories to exclude from. - display a small panel of file extensions to remove (.jpg, .mp3 ...) - able to provide as line command options the exclude directories and the file extensions directories) - talk back to the backuppc server the data (exclude directories, exclude file extensions, disk usage) - launch the application as a GUI when launch in 3.2 - launch the application with no GUI when launch in 1 What do you think about such idea. cEd -- Cedric BRINER Geneva - Switzerland -- Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It is the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Xq1LFB ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] backuppc quotas
Hi Andy Hi Cedric, Unless I'm missing something, why wouldn't you implement quotas on the users data before backups? Most systems have this capability already. It'd be much simpler than trying get users to prioritize which things they want backed up. I'm not really sure to very well understand what you've said. But, the idea developed is to tell the user: I can provide you a backup with a 10GB. Then whatever you do, checking the size in the server or in the client, the user will have to do a disk usage (DU), to find out which directories or which files extensions they want to exclude. That said, yes, I agree with you that instead of 1 - first do a disk usage (DU) with the exclude path you can directly start with a backup, because you do make the assumption that the size to be downloaded will be as higher as the last time (so no really need to do a DU before each time). And then it will be more efficient for the client that this verification occurs on the server side. Andy cEd -- Cedric BRINER Geneva - Switzerland -- Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It is the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Xq1LFB ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] backuppc quotas
Hi Andy Hi Cedric, Unless I'm missing something, why wouldn't you implement quotas on the users data before backups? Most systems have this capability already. It'd be much simpler than trying get users to prioritize which things they want backed up. I'm not really sure to very well understand what you've said. But, the idea developed is to tell the user: I can provide you a backup with a 10GB. User quotas would normally be used on a server. I assume you want to back up local hard disks where the whole space is available. Then whatever you do, checking the size in the server or in the client, the user will have to do a disk usage (DU), to find out which directories or which files extensions they want to exclude. Your idea of checking the size on the client before starting should work and if you have sshd running you should be able to do it as a DumpPreUserCmd with UserCmdCheckStatus set to abort on failure. However, any per-client size checking is unrealistically simple because the server-side space that will be used depends very much on the uniqueness of the client's files. That is, if you add a backup of a Who cares that files could be already backup in the pool ? Not the enduser, the enduser only cares about saving his data and being able to get them back. And you as the sysadmin, are a bit more happy, because you have a way to control how much data will be backed up. Which will help you to evaluate your backup system. The main problem with my situation is that people have huge amount of data stored, and that we only want to provide backup for important ones. So we let the user to tell backuppc which directory to backup, and each a year we said, we want people beeing able to save 10Gb or 100Gb. large directory where the files are all copies of things already backed up from other machines it will take very little additional server space. yes, but as already said, such things is a nice feature for the sysadmin and not for the enduser. -- Cedric BRINER Geneva - Switzerland -- Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It is the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Xq1LFB ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
[BackupPC-users] gui exclude
hello and Happy new year, I'm searching a GUI where people can click on the hierarchical file system to tell which folder they do not need to be saved. And then this application should also provides the amount of data that it is going to save. And it will be even nicer if it could also give this information in such format that rsync will understand it. And it will be even more nicer if it could be in java webstart which fits nicely in backuppc. So do you guys have some clues, hints, ideas that I can go for ??? thanks for you help cEd -- Cedric BRINER Geneva - Switzerland -- ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
[BackupPC-users] move a set of host from one backuppc to an other
hello, Is there any possiblity to move a set of host from one backuppc server to an other one. I was thinking to rsync all the server1:backuppc_dir/pc/host[1,2,3] to server2:backuppc_dir/pc and then ask backuppc to create the pool or the cpool from the backuppc_dir/pc any idea on how to do this. Ced. -- Cedric BRINER Geneva - Switzerland - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
