Re: [BackupPC-users] move a set of host from one backuppc to an other

2008-03-06 Thread Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom
On 03/06 08:56 , cedric briner wrote:
  Yes it's possible.
  However, it's generally so much work
 you mean human work ?

yes; tho if you're just copying a subset of the backed-up hosts, it ends up
being a lot of computer work due to all the hardlinks.

if you want to copy the entire backuppc data pool, this is a much more
tractable problem. don't copy it at the file level; copy it at the
filesystem level with dd+netcat, then grow the filesystem to the size of the
new disk. (this is one more reason why /var/lib/backuppc _*really*_ should
be a separate filesystem). dd will copy the data in time it takes to read
all the bits off the disk; anything that operates at the file level (tar,
rsync, cp) will take several times longer, because it ends up seeking all
over the disk to follow the hardlinks. 

Your original question was about copying a subset of the hosts which have
been backed up, tho. :)

 what about this :
 http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/faq/BackupPC.html#other_installation_topics
 Copying the pool
 it feels that this is the howto, I was looking for.

Glad to hear it!

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Real-Time Enterprises
www.real-time.com

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Re: [BackupPC-users] move a set of host from one backuppc to an other

2008-03-06 Thread Adam Goryachev
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Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom wrote:
 On 03/06 08:56 , cedric briner wrote:
 Yes it's possible.
 However, it's generally so much work
 you mean human work ?
 
 yes; tho if you're just copying a subset of the backed-up hosts, it ends up
 being a lot of computer work due to all the hardlinks.
 
 if you want to copy the entire backuppc data pool, this is a much more
 tractable problem. don't copy it at the file level; copy it at the
 filesystem level with dd+netcat, then grow the filesystem to the size of the
 new disk. (this is one more reason why /var/lib/backuppc _*really*_ should
 be a separate filesystem). dd will copy the data in time it takes to read
 all the bits off the disk; anything that operates at the file level (tar,
 rsync, cp) will take several times longer, because it ends up seeking all
 over the disk to follow the hardlinks. 
 
 Your original question was about copying a subset of the hosts which have
 been backed up, tho. :)

Depending on the size of the original pool and the new servers disk
space, it might make more sense to take this approach:

1) Copy the entire pool/etc using dd+netcat or similar
2) Delete all the hosts that you do NOT want to keep (rm -rf pc/host1
pc/host2 pc/host3 etc
3) Run the backuppc_nightly to purge the pool of all the files you do
not need to keep.

This might be easier, of course, if the original backup server has 5TB
of storage and the new one only has 2TB, then it doesn't work for you,
but hopefully that isn't the case.

Regards,
Adam

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[BackupPC-users] move a set of host from one backuppc to an other

2008-03-05 Thread cedric briner
hello,

Is there any possiblity to move a set of host from one backuppc server 
to an other one.

I was thinking to rsync all the server1:backuppc_dir/pc/host[1,2,3] to 
server2:backuppc_dir/pc

and then ask backuppc to create the pool or the cpool from the 
backuppc_dir/pc

any idea on how to do this.

Ced.
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Geneva - Switzerland

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Re: [BackupPC-users] move a set of host from one backuppc to an other

2008-03-05 Thread Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom
On 03/05 04:59 , cedric briner wrote:
 Is there any possiblity to move a set of host from one backuppc server 
 to an other one.
 
 I was thinking to rsync all the server1:backuppc_dir/pc/host[1,2,3] to 
 server2:backuppc_dir/pc
 
 and then ask backuppc to create the pool or the cpool from the 
 backuppc_dir/pc
 
 any idea on how to do this.

Yes it's possible.
However, it's generally so much work and so time-consuming that you're
better off just letting the new host run for a while to back up the data,
until such time as the old data would have expired from the old host.

If you have some very old data that you'd like to preserve, however; I think
there is some discussion in the archives about how to copy just certain
hosts and then rebuild the links. I can't think of just what to search for,
but back in 2005 there was a thread called 'Cpool question' that may give
you some clues.

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Systems Administrator
Real-Time Enterprises
www.real-time.com

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