Re: [BackupPC-users] stumped by ssh

2012-10-13 Thread Robert E. Wooden

I still haven't figured this out so I ran the following:

admin@wdnbkup01:~$ su backuppc

   Password: $ ssh -vvv root@bob-desktop2
   OpenSSH_5.9p1 Debian-5ubuntu1, OpenSSL 1.0.1 14 Mar 2012
   debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config
   debug1: /etc/ssh/ssh_config line 19: Applying options for *
   debug2: ssh_connect: needpriv 0
   debug1: Connecting to bob-desktop2 [192.168.242.120] port 22.

 snip 


 snip 
   debug2: callback done
   debug2: channel 0: open confirm rwindow 0 rmax 32768
   debug2: channel_input_status_confirm: type 99 id 0
   debug2: PTY allocation request accepted on channel 0
   debug2: channel 0: rcvd adjust 2097152
   debug2: channel_input_status_confirm: type 99 id 0
   debug2: shell request accepted on channel 0
   Welcome to Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS (GNU/Linux 3.2.0-32-generic x86_64)

 * Documentation:  https://help.ubuntu.com/

   Last login: Fri Oct 12 11:52:49 2012 from wdnbkup01
   root@bob-desktop2:~#


   As you can see, it logs into root@bob-desktop2 like it is suppose too!

   I know very little about rsync. But, doesn't this mean I have an
   issue with rsync?

   (Ok, somebodies gonna just say it, then yes, it is time to learn
   rsync but, if you think I am heading in the correct direction,
   please, please let me know.)

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Re: [BackupPC-users] stumped by ssh

2012-10-13 Thread Robert E. Wooden
I work nights, so, last night when I got home I sent my previous email. 
This morning I got up early and while (software) updating my backuppc 
server I decided to try sudo -u backuppc 
/usr/share/backuppc/BackupPC_dump -v -f [clienthostname] and the client 
is backup as I write this.


What happened, I am asking myself. Last night I was running ssh -vvv 
[clienthostname] to test my ssh connection. ssh was 'complaining' that 
I had some bad lines in my /var/lib/backuppc/.ssh/known_hosts file. I 
removed those 'bad lines' with ssh-keygen -f 
/var/lib/backuppc/.ssh/known_hosts -R bob-desktop2 and long story 
short, this morning (half asleep) decided to let my backuppc server fail 
again trying to backuppc this troubled client. To my amazement, half 
asleep, it did not fail!


Thank you everyone for your help. Somehow, during this journey, I 
stumbled onto the solution but, I might never have found it without the 
help of the mailing list. So, thank you everyone!


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Re: [BackupPC-users] stumped by ssh

2012-10-13 Thread Tyler J. Wagner
On 2012-10-13 14:33, Robert E. Wooden wrote:
 What happened, I am asking myself. Last night I was running ssh -vvv
 [clienthostname] to test my ssh connection. ssh was 'complaining' that I
 had some bad lines in my /var/lib/backuppc/.ssh/known_hosts file. I removed
 those 'bad lines' with ssh-keygen -f /var/lib/backuppc/.ssh/known_hosts
 -R bob-desktop2 and long story short, this morning (half asleep) decided
 to let my backuppc server fail again trying to backuppc this troubled
 client. To my amazement, half asleep, it did not fail!

Some related SSH tips:

1. Remove your known_hosts file now.
2. Create an ~/.ssh/config file, owned by the right user, mode 644, containing:

HashKnownHosts no
StrictHostKeyChecking no

This means that:

1. Lines will be added to known_hosts without prompting (no more pressing
yes to accept new fingerprints).
2. Key mismatches will be tolerated with SSH key logins. A warning will be
printed, and password logins are still blocked.
3. Lines added to known_hosts will have a readable host/ip entry at the
begin of line. This makes removing conflicts easier.

Some people think this reduces security. It does. But I consider it a fair
balance versus usability, especially when you work with a large number of
hosts.

Regards,
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Re: [BackupPC-users] stumped by ssh

2012-10-13 Thread Robert E. Wooden
I'll keep this for future reference. Thanks!

Robert Wooden
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On 10/13/2012 10:08 AM, Tyler J. Wagner wrote:
 On 2012-10-13 14:33, Robert E. Wooden wrote:
 What happened, I am asking myself. Last night I was running ssh -vvv
 [clienthostname] to test my ssh connection. ssh was 'complaining' that I
 had some bad lines in my /var/lib/backuppc/.ssh/known_hosts file. I removed
 those 'bad lines' with ssh-keygen -f /var/lib/backuppc/.ssh/known_hosts
 -R bob-desktop2 and long story short, this morning (half asleep) decided
 to let my backuppc server fail again trying to backuppc this troubled
 client. To my amazement, half asleep, it did not fail!
 Some related SSH tips:

 1. Remove your known_hosts file now.
 2. Create an ~/.ssh/config file, owned by the right user, mode 644, 
 containing:

 HashKnownHosts no
 StrictHostKeyChecking no

 This means that:

 1. Lines will be added to known_hosts without prompting (no more pressing
 yes to accept new fingerprints).
 2. Key mismatches will be tolerated with SSH key logins. A warning will be
 printed, and password logins are still blocked.
 3. Lines added to known_hosts will have a readable host/ip entry at the
 begin of line. This makes removing conflicts easier.

 Some people think this reduces security. It does. But I consider it a fair
 balance versus usability, especially when you work with a large number of
 hosts.

 Regards,
 Tyler



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Re: [BackupPC-users] stumped by ssh

2012-10-11 Thread Robert E. Wooden
Yes, when I ran ssh -l root [clientip] whoami I was indeed backuppc 
user. Thanks Les Mikesell and Richard Shaw.


Ray Frush,

I ran admin@wdnbkup01:~$ sudo -u backuppc rsync -aP 
root@[myclientip]:/tmp /tmp/client


   [sudo] password for admin:
   receiving incremental file list
   created directory /tmp/client
   tmp/
   tmp/.X0-lock
  11 100%   10.74kB/s0:00:00 (xfer#1, to-check=40/42)
   tmp/indicator-weather-1010.pid
   5 100%0.07kB/s0:00:00 (xfer#2, to-check=39/42)
   tmp/qtsingleapp-homebo-c768-3f2
   tmp/qtsingleapp-homebo-c768-3f2-lockfile
   0 100%0.00kB/s0:00:00 (xfer#3, to-check=37/42)
   tmp/tmp9rfGGH
   0 100%0.00kB/s0:00:00 (xfer#4, to-check=36/42)
   tmp/tmpTJVb6u
   0 100%0.00kB/s0:00:00 (xfer#5, to-check=35/42)
   tmp/tmpdvZaiW
   0 100%0.00kB/s0:00:00 (xfer#6, to-check=34/42)
   tmp/tmpklVFkz
   0 100%0.00kB/s0:00:00 (xfer#7, to-check=33/42)
   tmp/unity_support_test.0
   0 100%0.00kB/s0:00:00 (xfer#8, to-check=32/42)
   tmp/.ICE-unix/
   tmp/.ICE-unix/13650
   tmp/.X11-unix/
   tmp/.X11-unix/X0
   tmp/at-spi2/
   tmp/at-spi2/socket-10572-1804289383
   tmp/at-spi2/socket-13312-1804289383
   tmp/at-spi2/socket-1360-1804289383
   tmp/at-spi2/socket-4936-1804289383
   tmp/keyring-vALUtM/
   tmp/keyring-vALUtM/control
   tmp/keyring-vALUtM/gpg
   tmp/keyring-vALUtM/pkcs11
   tmp/keyring-vALUtM/ssh
   tmp/orbit-bob/
   tmp/pulse-2L9K88eMlGn7/
   tmp/pulse-PKdhtXMmr18n/
   tmp/pulse-ikLM6dQvIz5H/
   tmp/pulse-ikLM6dQvIz5H/native
   tmp/pulse-ikLM6dQvIz5H/pid
   6 100%0.07kB/s0:00:00 (xfer#9, to-check=10/42)
   tmp/sni-qt_skype_13737-Us8Air/
   tmp/sni-qt_skype_13737-Us8Air/icons/
   tmp/sni-qt_skype_13737-Us8Air/icons/hicolor/
   tmp/sni-qt_skype_13737-Us8Air/icons/hicolor/24x24/
   tmp/sni-qt_skype_13737-Us8Air/icons/hicolor/24x24/apps/
   
tmp/sni-qt_skype_13737-Us8Air/icons/hicolor/24x24/apps/skype_13737_0972e5fde53a4a87346ebb91c4c2b159.png
 935 100%8.70kB/s0:00:00 (xfer#10, to-check=5/42)
   
tmp/sni-qt_skype_13737-Us8Air/icons/hicolor/24x24/apps/skype_13737_6cbeda8e2c9f56d3ac75ccdf8d282a69.png
 888 100%8.18kB/s0:00:00 (xfer#11, to-check=4/42)
   
tmp/sni-qt_skype_13737-Us8Air/icons/hicolor/24x24/apps/skype_13737_c2ee5f08e8df31fd4dcef88f95ed4a16.png
1389 100%   12.80kB/s0:00:00 (xfer#12, to-check=3/42)
   
tmp/sni-qt_skype_13737-Us8Air/icons/hicolor/24x24/apps/skype_13737_dad77418071bead905e2dbe605715dcd.png
 968 100%8.83kB/s0:00:00 (xfer#13, to-check=2/42)
   
tmp/sni-qt_skype_13737-Us8Air/icons/hicolor/24x24/apps/skype_13737_f2fc4a539a7b9553f5b35241d1154e84.png
 911 100%8.31kB/s0:00:00 (xfer#14, to-check=1/42)
   tmp/ssh-UauLqpz13650/
   tmp/ssh-UauLqpz13650/agent.13650

   sent 376 bytes  received 7160 bytes  15072.00 bytes/sec
   total size is 5113  speedup is 0.68

You clearly know more about rsync than I do. What does this tell you?

And for the record, I have three other clients working properly. For 
what ever reason this particular client (that use to work fine) has 
decided to resist exchanging keys and after I got it to exchange keys 
and answer whoami with 'root' still will not backup.


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Re: [BackupPC-users] stumped by ssh

2012-10-11 Thread Pedro M. S. Oliveira
Hi,
If you are using a redhat 6 or one of it's clients check if you're using
selinux.  If so configure it's policies to allow ssh with keys loggin or
put it in permissive mode.
Check redhat documentation for details.
Cheers,
Pedro Oliveira
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 On Oct 10, 2012 6:25 PM, Robert E. Wooden rbrte...@comcast.net wrote:

  I have been using Backuppc for a few years now. Recently I upgraded my
 machine to newer, faster hardware. Hence, I have experience exchanging ssh
 keys, etc.

 It seems I have one client that refuses to connect via ssh. When I
 exchanged keys and ran ssh -l root *[clientip]* whoami the client
 properly returns 'root'. When I sudo -u backuppc
 /usr/share/backuppc/BackupPC_dump -v -f *[clienthostname]* I get 'dump
 failed: Unable to read 4 bytes'.

 I have checked versions of rsync, ssh and openssh-server on both the
 backuppc machine and the client. They are the same on both (both running
 Ubuntu 12.04LTS.)

 I have tailed the clients auth.log file it shows sshd[10109]: Connection
 closed by *[backuppc-ip]* [preauth] so, the backuppc machine is closing
 the connection. (I might be tailing the wrong file, I am not sure.)

 Why won't this client connect?

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Re: [BackupPC-users] stumped by ssh

2012-10-11 Thread Ray Frush
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 12:34 AM, Robert E. Wooden rbrte...@comcast.netwrote:

 I ran admin@wdnbkup01:~$ sudo -u backuppc rsync -aP root@[myclientip]:/tmp
 /tmp/client

 [sudo] password for admin:
 receiving incremental file list
 created directory /tmp/client


I was hoping for some kind of informative failure.  But we got none.  That
rules out the .ssh keys and any obvious mis-configurations.

When you rund BackupPC_dump part of what it runs is an rsync server on
the client to be backed up.   The rest of the script is a perl based rsync
receiver.

backuppc 32396 24278  2 09:31 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/perl
/usr/share/BackupPC/bin/BackupPC_dump -i hostname
backuppc 32406 32396  0 09:31 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/ssh -q -x -l root
hostname /usr/bin/rsync --server --sender --numeric-ids --perms --owner
--group -D --links --hard-links --times --block-size=2048 --recursive .


This is where my knowledge breaks down  BackupPC_dump tries to talk to the
rsync --server...   running on the client, but in your case it is
failing.  In our environment that's usually because the client disconnects
from the network before any data is transferred.  (We backup a lot of
laptops that wander around).   You'll have to see if there's any evidence
that the client becomes unavailable after a backup is started.   Also
check that the 'rsync --server' is actually getting started on the client.


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Re: [BackupPC-users] stumped by ssh

2012-10-11 Thread Robert E. Wooden
Thanks everyone.

I will add that I am not running SELinux nor am I running ufw (Ubuntu 
firewall.)

I am an Ubuntu OS house.

I have even considered a ssh blacklist but, I cannot find one anywhere 
(unless I am looking in the wrong directories.)

I am beginning to consider possible hardware issues but, it worked 
before I re-installed the OS. So, that doesn't make much sense.

What can this issue be???

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Re: [BackupPC-users] stumped by ssh

2012-10-11 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Robert E. Wooden rbrte...@comcast.net wrote:
 Thanks everyone.

 I will add that I am not running SELinux nor am I running ufw (Ubuntu
 firewall.)

 I am an Ubuntu OS house.

 I have even considered a ssh blacklist but, I cannot find one anywhere
 (unless I am looking in the wrong directories.)

 I am beginning to consider possible hardware issues but, it worked
 before I re-installed the OS. So, that doesn't make much sense.

 What can this issue be???

One other thing that can cause trouble is any output sent before the
rsync program starts (from /etc/profile, .bashrc, etc.).  Stock rsync
will ignore that and work anyway, but the backuppc implementation will
fail.  I didn't see any in your test, but perhaps you didn't paste the
entire results.   Also, you might look at /var/log/secure on the
target system to see if any problem is reported for the ssh
connection.

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[BackupPC-users] stumped by ssh

2012-10-10 Thread Robert E. Wooden
I have been using Backuppc for a few years now. Recently I upgraded my 
machine to newer, faster hardware. Hence, I have experience exchanging 
ssh keys, etc.


It seems I have one client that refuses to connect via ssh. When I 
exchanged keys and ran ssh -l root /[clientip]/ whoami the client 
properly returns 'root'. When I sudo -u backuppc 
/usr/share/backuppc/BackupPC_dump -v -f /[clienthostname]/ I get 'dump 
failed: Unable to read 4 bytes'.


I have checked versions of rsync, ssh and openssh-server on both the 
backuppc machine and the client. They are the same on both (both running 
Ubuntu 12.04LTS.)


I have tailed the clients auth.log file it shows sshd[10109]: 
Connection closed by /[backuppc-ip]/ [preauth] so, the backuppc machine 
is closing the connection. (I might be tailing the wrong file, I am not 
sure.)


Why won't this client connect?

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Re: [BackupPC-users] stumped by ssh

2012-10-10 Thread Les Mikesell
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 12:19 PM, Robert E. Wooden rbrte...@comcast.net wrote:
 I have been using Backuppc for a few years now. Recently I upgraded my
 machine to newer, faster hardware. Hence, I have experience exchanging ssh
 keys, etc.

 It seems I have one client that refuses to connect via ssh. When I exchanged
 keys and ran ssh -l root [clientip] whoami the client properly returns
 'root'.

Are you executing this test as the backuppc user?

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Re: [BackupPC-users] stumped by ssh

2012-10-10 Thread Ray Frush
What happens when you run

 sudo -u backuppc rsync -aP root@client:/tmp /tmp/client


On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Robert E. Wooden rbrte...@comcast.netwrote:

  I have been using Backuppc for a few years now. Recently I upgraded my
 machine to newer, faster hardware. Hence, I have experience exchanging ssh
 keys, etc.

 It seems I have one client that refuses to connect via ssh. When I
 exchanged keys and ran ssh -l root *[clientip]* whoami the client
 properly returns 'root'. When I sudo -u backuppc
 /usr/share/backuppc/BackupPC_dump -v -f *[clienthostname]* I get 'dump
 failed: Unable to read 4 bytes'.


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Re: [BackupPC-users] stumped by ssh

2012-10-10 Thread Richard Shaw
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 12:19 PM, Robert E. Wooden rbrte...@comcast.net wrote:
 I have been using Backuppc for a few years now. Recently I upgraded my
 machine to newer, faster hardware. Hence, I have experience exchanging ssh
 keys, etc.

 It seems I have one client that refuses to connect via ssh. When I exchanged
 keys and ran ssh -l root [clientip] whoami the client properly returns
 'root'. When I sudo -u backuppc /usr/share/backuppc/BackupPC_dump -v -f
 [clienthostname] I get 'dump failed: Unable to read 4 bytes'.

Quick check... When you ran ssh -l root [client ip] whoami, did you
run that as the backuppc user on the server or as root or another
user?

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