[Bacula-users] Compiling problems on AIX 5.2

2005-09-02 Thread Daniel Kropveld
I have tried to compile bacula  1.36.3 (22 April 2005) on AIX 5.3.0.0
with mysql (server, client, devel) installed from the AIX rpm's.
Using the following command:

 ./configure \
  --enable-smartalloc \
  --sbindir=/opt/bacula/bin \
  --sysconfdir=/opt/bacula/bin \
  --with-pid-dir=/opt/bacula/bin/working \
  --with-subsys-dir=/opt/bacula/bin/working \
  --with-working-dir=/opt/bacula/working \
  --with-mysql

and I got the follwing output:
-
(...)
Doing make of dependencies
make: *** No rule to make target `depend'.  Stop.

Configuration on Thu Sep  1 15:40:24 DFT 2005:

  Host:   powerpc-ibm-aix5.3.0.0 -- aix 3
  Bacula version: 1.36.3 (22 April 2005)
  Source code location:   .
  Install binaries:   /opt/bacula/bin
  Install config files:   /opt/bacula/bin
  Scripts directory:  /opt/bacula/bin
  Working directory:  /opt/bacula/working
  PID directory:  /opt/bacula/bin/working
  Subsys directory:   /opt/bacula/bin/working
  C Compiler: gcc 3.3.2
  C++ Compiler:   g++ 3.3.2
  Compiler flags:  -g -O2 -Wall
  Linker flags:-O
  Libraries:  -lpthread
  Statically Linked Tools:no
  Statically Linked FD:   no
  Statically Linked SD:   no
  Statically Linked DIR:  no
  Statically Linked CONS: no
  Database type:  MySQL
  Database lib:   -L/usr/lib/mysql -lmysqlclient_r -lz

  Job Output Email:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Traceback Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  SMTP Host Address:  localhost

  Director Port:  9101
  File daemon Port:   9102
  Storage daemon Port:9103

  Director User:
  Director Group:
  Storage Daemon User:
  Storage DaemonGroup:
  File Daemon User:
  File Daemon Group:

  SQL binaries Directory  /usr/bin

  Large file support: no
  Bacula conio support:   yes -lcurses
  readline support:   no
  TCP Wrappers support:   no
  ZLIB support:   yes
  enable-smartalloc:  yes
  enable-gnome:   no
  enable-wx-console:  no
  enable-tray-monitor:
  client-only:no
  ACL support:no
-

Then I tried doing 'make' but that failed.

I have had bacula running on a linux server very succesfully for years.
Now that we switched over to (new) IBM servers I hope to continue using
bacula on AIX.
I am an AIX newbe, so any hint is very welcome!

Tia
Daniel

PS: I already searched the archives for hints, but found nothing useful on
AIX 5.2

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[Bacula-users] right solution for backup MySQL databases

2005-09-02 Thread Dmitry S. Vlasov

Hello!
Can anyone tell me right solution for backup MySQL databases (MyISAM and 
InnoDB) without slave server ( i mean without any replication) and 
without stopping service?

How I feel, backup binary files on-the-fly is realy bad idea :)



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Re: [Bacula-users] right solution for backup MySQL databases

2005-09-02 Thread Rowdy

Dmitry S. Vlasov wrote:

Hello! Can anyone tell me right solution for backup MySQL databases
(MyISAM and InnoDB) without slave server ( i mean without any
replication) and without stopping service? How I feel, backup binary
files on-the-fly is realy bad idea :)


mysqldump?

Indeed, Bacula will use mysqldump to backup it's catalog database if you
are using MySQL for that purpose.

You can even use the make_catalog_backup script as a template.

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Re: [Bacula-users] right solution for backup MySQL databases

2005-09-02 Thread Arno Lehmann

Hello,

Dmitry S. Vlasov wrote:

Hello!
Can anyone tell me right solution for backup MySQL databases (MyISAM and 
InnoDB) without slave server ( i mean without any replication) and 
without stopping service?

How I feel, backup binary files on-the-fly is realy bad idea :)


There are different options, and which one is best for you depends on 
your needs.


- You could use a run before script that stops the databse and a run 
after script to start it again. This makes database access unpossible 
during backup, obviously, and when using the same database server for 
your backup that's not really an option.


- You could use a snapshop, but this doesn't guarantee a consistent 
state of the database before backup, it only lowers the risk of the 
database changing during backup and thus creating an inconsistent backup.


- Use mysqldump to dump the database(s) to a file or sucket you then 
store. The options --lock-tables and --single-transaction could be useful


- mysqlhotcopy could also be used.

- Using any of the above, you could inform your applications that the 
database is to be modified and they have to keep their fingers off it.


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Re: [Bacula-users] Backup Mysql Database Files

2005-09-02 Thread Jonas Björklund

Hello,

On Fri, 2 Sep 2005, Philipp Steinkrueger wrote:


if i want to backup a server running a mysql-db and i just backup
all the mysql-db-files, do i risk to save a corrupted version? i read
in the manual about the VSS problematic and save state in RDBMS
on windows, but in my case, the mysql db runs on linux.


You can't.


i dont want to dump the mysql-dbs before the backup, because this would
take days...


Make a MysQL slave server and do a fulldump each month (or week) and then 
backup all binlogs every day.



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Re: [Bacula-users] right solution for backup MySQL databases

2005-09-02 Thread Dmitry S. Vlasov

Arno Lehmann wrote:


Hello,

Dmitry S. Vlasov wrote:


Hello!
Can anyone tell me right solution for backup MySQL databases (MyISAM 
and InnoDB) without slave server ( i mean without any replication) 
and without stopping service?

How I feel, backup binary files on-the-fly is realy bad idea :)



There are different options, and which one is best for you depends on 
your needs.


- You could use a run before script that stops the databse and a run 
after script to start it again. This makes database access unpossible 
during backup, obviously, and when using the same database server for 
your backup that's not really an option.


In one situation I can stop/start mysqld before/after job...

I add folowing in my job:

 Client Run Before Job = /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mysql-server.sh stop
 Client Run After Job = /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mysql-server.sh start

and see:

244 Increme  pluto.2005-09-02_15.11.32 has terminated

for a long time

then I run

/usr/local/etc/rc.d/mysql-server.sh stop

on the remote host - and in the same time jod finish.

next I insert exit 0; in  /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mysql-server.sh for both 
stop and start but still have 'frozen' job


:(

Do you have any idea ?


- You could use a snapshop, but this doesn't guarantee a consistent 
state of the database before backup, it only lowers the risk of the 
database changing during backup and thus creating an inconsistent backup.


- Use mysqldump to dump the database(s) to a file or sucket you then 
store. The options --lock-tables and --single-transaction could be useful


- mysqlhotcopy could also be used.

- Using any of the above, you could inform your applications that the 
database is to be modified and they have to keep their fingers off it.


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Re: [Bacula-users] Backup Mysql Database Files

2005-09-02 Thread Philipp Steinkrueger

Hi,

Jonas Björklund wrote:


Hello,

On Fri, 2 Sep 2005, Philipp Steinkrueger wrote:


if i want to backup a server running a mysql-db and i just backup
all the mysql-db-files, do i risk to save a corrupted version? i read
in the manual about the VSS problematic and save state in RDBMS
on windows, but in my case, the mysql db runs on linux.



You can't.

what do you mean, that i cannot ? I can copy the files perfectly on 
linux and

i cant perfectly restore them. the question is what the risk it...


Greetings,
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[Bacula-users] Backup Mysql Database Files

2005-09-02 Thread Philipp Steinkrueger

Hi,


if i want to backup a server running a mysql-db and i just backup
all the mysql-db-files, do i risk to save a corrupted version? i read
in the manual about the VSS problematic and save state in RDBMS
on windows, but in my case, the mysql db runs on linux.

i dont want to dump the mysql-dbs before the backup, because this would
take days...

so, do i risk corrupted mysql-dbs or do i just risk to miss a query ?


best regards,
Philipp


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Re: [Bacula-users] Backup Mysql Database Files

2005-09-02 Thread Philipp Steinkrueger

Dan Langille wrote:


On 2 Sep 2005 at 14:16, Philipp Steinkrueger wrote:

 


Dan Langille wrote:

   


On 2 Sep 2005 at 12:39, Philipp Steinkrueger wrote:



 


if i want to backup a server running a mysql-db and i just backup
all the mysql-db-files, do i risk to save a corrupted version? i read
in the manual about the VSS problematic and save state in RDBMS
on windows, but in my case, the mysql db runs on linux.

i dont want to dump the mysql-dbs before the backup, because this would
take days...
  

   


How large is your database?



 

well, actually its more than one database. its a lamp system running 
dozens of databases.

dumping them all would really eat up a lot of time...
   



How much time?  I ask because it sounds like you are assuming and 
have not actually tried it.


My usual stance is: What is more important to you?  a fast backup or 
a reliable backup?


 

you are right, i have not actually tried it with this database server, 
but i have experience with
other projects running on even faster servers. the server i need to 
backup now is always under
heavy load and dumping would take a long time. even if it would be 
sitting around lazy it would

take time to write several GB (around 6 at the moment) of data to disk...


greetings,
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Re: [Bacula-users] Backup Mysql Database Files

2005-09-02 Thread Dan Langille
On 2 Sep 2005 at 14:16, Philipp Steinkrueger wrote:

 Dan Langille wrote:
 
 On 2 Sep 2005 at 12:39, Philipp Steinkrueger wrote:
 
   
 
 if i want to backup a server running a mysql-db and i just backup
 all the mysql-db-files, do i risk to save a corrupted version? i read
 in the manual about the VSS problematic and save state in RDBMS
 on windows, but in my case, the mysql db runs on linux.
 
 i dont want to dump the mysql-dbs before the backup, because this would
 take days...
 
 
 
 How large is your database?
 
   
 
 well, actually its more than one database. its a lamp system running 
 dozens of databases.
 dumping them all would really eat up a lot of time...

How much time?  I ask because it sounds like you are assuming and 
have not actually tried it.

My usual stance is: What is more important to you?  a fast backup or 
a reliable backup?

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Re: [Bacula-users] Backup Mysql Database Files

2005-09-02 Thread Umberto Nicoletti
On 9/2/05, Philipp Steinkrueger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 
 
 if i want to backup a server running a mysql-db and i just backup
 all the mysql-db-files, do i risk to save a corrupted version? i read
 in the manual about the VSS problematic and save state in RDBMS
 on windows, but in my case, the mysql db runs on linux.
 

stop tha database and then copy all database files

or

schedule mysqldump --all-databases to run daily (or as often as you want...)

The dump is very fast and will not require downtime.

Reagrds,
Umberto


 i dont want to dump the mysql-dbs before the backup, because this would
 take days...
 
 so, do i risk corrupted mysql-dbs or do i just risk to miss a query ?
 
 
 best regards,
 Philipp
 
 
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Re: [Bacula-users] Backup Mysql Database Files

2005-09-02 Thread Davide Bolcioni

Philipp Steinkrueger wrote:


if i want to backup a server running a mysql-db and i just backup
all the mysql-db-files, do i risk to save a corrupted version? i read
in the manual about the VSS problematic and save state in RDBMS
on windows, but in my case, the mysql db runs on linux.


I believe most databases are not safe to backup in this manner.


i dont want to dump the mysql-dbs before the backup, because this would
take days...


If you're using LVM, you might (a) stop mysql, (b) create a LVM 
snapshot, and (c) restart mysql. The (b) step is fast since it does not 
make a full copy of the original, it just stores reverse differences, so 
after (c) you can happily have bacula read off the snapshot, which 
you'll delete when done.


Note that the above is not a scheme I've actually tried, but I've had it 
on my to do queue for a while and from what I've read it ought to work.


A wilder idea involves dumping to a FIFO, which Bacula can be instructed
to read from when doing backups, although I do not have yet worked out 
how restore would happen in this case.


Hope this helps,
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[Bacula-users] Alternative PDF version of Bacula manual with section numbering

2005-09-02 Thread Andrew Ford
I have volunteered to edit the Bacula documentation. 

One of the first things I am doing is adding chapter and section 
numbering to the PDF versions of the manuals.  These changes will not be 
committed to CVS before the second half of September and will probably 
not make it to the documentation on the Bacula web site until some time 
after that. 

People may find the new version of the manual easier to navigate, so I 
have put my latest PDF version (with section numbering, formatted for A4 
paper) up on my web site, at:


   http://refcards.com/bacula/

In terms of content it is identical to the version on www.bacula.org -- 
its just the formatting that is different.


Feedback is welcome.

Enjoy!

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Re: [Bacula-users] Compiling problems on AIX 5.2

2005-09-02 Thread Martin Simmons
 On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 08:33:33 +0200 (CEST), Daniel Kropveld [EMAIL 
 PROTECTED] said:

  Daniel I have tried to compile bacula  1.36.3 (22 April 2005) on AIX 5.3.0.0
  Daniel with mysql (server, client, devel) installed from the AIX rpm's.
  Daniel Using the following command:

  Daniel  ./configure \
   --enable-smartalloc \
   --sbindir=/opt/bacula/bin \
   --sysconfdir=/opt/bacula/bin \
   --with-pid-dir=/opt/bacula/bin/working \
   --with-subsys-dir=/opt/bacula/bin/working \
   --with-working-dir=/opt/bacula/working \
   --with-mysql

  Daniel and I got the follwing output:
  Daniel -
  Daniel (...)
  Daniel Doing make of dependencies
  Daniel make: *** No rule to make target `depend'.  Stop.

Were there any other signs of trouble before this?  In particular, did it say
'creating Makefile'?

I'm not sure if it will help, but are you using GNU make or AIX's make (try
running make -v)?  GNU make might work better with Bacula's Makefile.  I think
you do that by setting the environment variable MAKE to the path of GNU make.

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RE: [Bacula-users] Backup Mysql Database Files

2005-09-02 Thread Dan Langille
On 2 Sep 2005 at 15:22, Heigl Florian - Munich-MR - e wrote:

 
  How much time?  I ask because it sounds like you are assuming and 
  have not actually tried it.
 
 [ I think in general it's not bad to think about things impact before
 trying :) ]

Worthwhile.  But one must also act with facts.  Try it.  One might be 
surprised.  I regularly backup large online databases by dumping the 
file to text.

If someone says: it takes 72 hours to dump my database to disk, and 
that's too long, THEN we have something tangible to work with.
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[Bacula-users] schedule resource

2005-09-02 Thread Maurizio Santini
Hi,

Just a question about the schedule resource.  If the Pool directive is
not defined like in

# This schedule does the catalog. It starts after the WeeklyCycle
Schedule {
  Name = WeeklyCycleAfterBackup
  Run = Full sun-sat at 1:10
}

...does it mean that it uses the Default pool?

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Re: [Bacula-users] Backup Mysql Database Files

2005-09-02 Thread Philipp Steinkrueger

Dan Langille wrote:


On 2 Sep 2005 at 12:39, Philipp Steinkrueger wrote:

 


if i want to backup a server running a mysql-db and i just backup
all the mysql-db-files, do i risk to save a corrupted version? i read
in the manual about the VSS problematic and save state in RDBMS
on windows, but in my case, the mysql db runs on linux.

i dont want to dump the mysql-dbs before the backup, because this would
take days...
   



How large is your database?

 

well, actually its more than one database. its a lamp system running 
dozens of databases.

dumping them all would really eat up a lot of time...


so, do i risk corrupted mysql-dbs or do i just risk to miss a query ?
   



I *always* suggest dumping the database and going from there.  If 
this isn't an option, I suggest following up on the MySQL project 
with suggestions.
 


allright, thanx,

Philipp


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Re: [Bacula-users] Backup Mysql Database Files

2005-09-02 Thread Jeronimo Zucco
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You only can copy the database files for mysql if table type is MyISAM.
If you use innodb, only dump or using software InnoDB Hot Backup (it is
not GPL).
You can dump with lock database (is available only for queries in this
time) for prevent not integrity corrupted.

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Philipp Steinkrueger wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Jonas Björklund wrote:
 
 Hello,

 On Fri, 2 Sep 2005, Philipp Steinkrueger wrote:

 if i want to backup a server running a mysql-db and i just backup
 all the mysql-db-files, do i risk to save a corrupted version? i read
 in the manual about the VSS problematic and save state in RDBMS
 on windows, but in my case, the mysql db runs on linux.



 You can't.

 what do you mean, that i cannot ? I can copy the files perfectly on
 linux and
 i cant perfectly restore them. the question is what the risk it...
 
 
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Re: [Bacula-users] Backup Mysql Database Files

2005-09-02 Thread Dan Langille
On 2 Sep 2005 at 12:39, Philipp Steinkrueger wrote:

 if i want to backup a server running a mysql-db and i just backup
 all the mysql-db-files, do i risk to save a corrupted version? i read
 in the manual about the VSS problematic and save state in RDBMS
 on windows, but in my case, the mysql db runs on linux.
 
 i dont want to dump the mysql-dbs before the backup, because this would
 take days...

How large is your database?

 so, do i risk corrupted mysql-dbs or do i just risk to miss a query ?

I *always* suggest dumping the database and going from there.  If 
this isn't an option, I suggest following up on the MySQL project 
with suggestions.
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RE: [Bacula-users] Backup Mysql Database Files

2005-09-02 Thread Heigl Florian - Munich-MR - external

 How much time?  I ask because it sounds like you are assuming and 
 have not actually tried it.

[ I think in general it's not bad to think about things impact before
trying :) ]

 My usual stance is: What is more important to you?  a fast backup or 
 a reliable backup?
 
   
 
 you are right, i have not actually tried it with this 
 database server, 
 but i have experience with
 other projects running on even faster servers. the server i need to 
 backup now is always under
 heavy load and dumping would take a long time. even if it would be 
 sitting around lazy it would
 take time to write several GB (around 6 at the moment) of 
 data to disk...

Could You possible create a solution like one of the following for
reducing
performance penalty during backup:

- run mysqldump with extremely high nice value to a different disk
spindle
- stop mysql for a few seconds, create a filesystem snapshot, restart it
and 
save the snapshot (this of course depends on the filesystem type You're
using
and if You want to add an additional script to Your backup procedure.

florian


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[Bacula-users] Core dump with 1.36.3 on FreeBSD 5.4, Fatal Error because: Bacula interrupted by signal 10: BUS error

2005-09-02 Thread Josh Endries
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Hello,

I noticed someone else had the same error a couple months ago. My
test server's director died this morning mid-backup with the BUS
error in the subject:

Fatal Error because: Bacula interrupted by signal 10: BUS error

It's running on a Pentium machine, backing up five clients.
Everything else kept running fine, only the director died. It isn't
64-bit or non-Intel CPU. I'm not sure off the top of my head about
the chipsets. Could this be due to RAM? The machine isn't
particularly beefy, but has been running okay for a few weeks now.

Josh
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Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula performance

2005-09-02 Thread Uwe Hees

Hello all,

I finally found a solution to speed up the performance dramatically:
In the FileDaemon resource I set Maximum Network Buffer Size =  
65536 (instead of the default 32k).

Now I get ~3MB/sec, which is reasonable.

Thanks for all assistance,
Uwe


Am 31.08.2005 um 18:28 schrieb Uwe Hees:




Hello,

Am 30.08.2005 um 18:15 schrieb Kern Sibbald:





Perhaps you didn't read the ReleaseNotes where I indicate that  
SQLite3 in my

tests was 4 to 10 times slower than SQLite 2.

Try SQLite 2 or MySQL.




I used sqlite3 mainly because it came preinstalled with MacOS 10.4.  
Meanwhile I have installed MySQL for other reasons and tried bacula  
with it. The result was a double in performance up to ~120kB/sec.


While running the backup job I noticed that netstat reported  
32768 entries in the send queue of the bacula-fd. I tried to backup  
to a remote sd (running under Linux on a 200Mhz/PPC603e, i.e. not a  
powerful box) and got ~520kB/sec.



Am 30.08.2005 um 20:46 schrieb Arno Lehmann:



Also, don't forget that notebook HDs (2.5) are usually a lot  
slower than than desktop or even server disks... and in backing up  
the same machine, you use the slow disk three times: reading,  
writing, database.





The disk has a random read/write performance of about 10 MB/sec.



Now, I don't have disk performance comparisons between an iBook  
and a more typical server setup, but I'd bet that the iBook is  
really slow in comparison...


about 650 kB/s is what I get storing the (dumped) catalog database  
on my backupserver - the server is slower than your iBook, but  
still this is what the tape drive can handle - but this server  
only does the backups, the catalog is on another machine, and  
there are no other processes using lots of memory or bus throughput.


In short: Try it with a setup which resembles your planned use of  
bacula, and with some consideration you will get good results.





Backing up my (and my wife's) notebook to an external disk is  
exactly what I intend to do at home. There's no tape drive  
involved. As for the company, the backup tape drive is not yet  
purchased.


Greetings,
Uwe




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Re: [Bacula-users] schedule resource

2005-09-02 Thread Matthias Kurz
On Fri, Sep 02, 2005, Maurizio Santini wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Just a question about the schedule resource.  If the Pool directive is
 not defined like in
 
 # This schedule does the catalog. It starts after the WeeklyCycle
 Schedule {
   Name = WeeklyCycleAfterBackup
   Run = Full sun-sat at 1:10
 }
 
 ...does it mean that it uses the Default pool?

No, it uses the pool that is defined in the Job resource. If no pool is
defined, you get an error. I just tried it. Actually, Pool is a required
directive in the Job resource. There is no default. You have to specify
one, even when you plan to override it in the Schedule resource.


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Re: [Bacula-users] schedule resource

2005-09-02 Thread Phil Stracchino
Maurizio Santini wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Just a question about the schedule resource.  If the Pool directive is
 not defined like in
 
 # This schedule does the catalog. It starts after the WeeklyCycle
 Schedule {
   Name = WeeklyCycleAfterBackup
   Run = Full sun-sat at 1:10
 }
 
 ...does it mean that it uses the Default pool?

Yes, unless otherwise specified in the Job resource or a JobDefs resource.


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