Re: [Bacula-users] Backup Method with Multiple Media Types - AIT2 Issue
Many Thanks Robert - I'm running tests with the Linux Sony TapeTool now. Reading the Sony documentation, I notice that it tells me to use /dev/sg2 (after a cat /proc/scsi/scsi command). With tar, btape and bacula (including configurations) I have been using /dev/nst0! Would that be where my problem lies, incorrect device? -- Best Regards Alan To -Original Message- From: Robert Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 November 2006 20:41 To: 'Alan To';bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Bacula-users] Backup Method with Multiple Media Types - AIT2 Issue Are these new tapes? I've seen weird problems like this with bulk-erased tapes. I fixed it by formatting them with Windows version Sony's TapeTool. I'm not sure which variant of Unix you are using but here is a link to the Linux one. http://sony.storagesupport.com/tapetool/linux.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan To Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 2:22 AM To: bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Bacula-users] Backup Method with Multiple Media Types - AIT2 Issue Hi All Many Thanks to everybody who helped out on the multiple media types and correctly scheduling the Full and Differential backups for me. The schedule and media switch works now, but... Something is wrong with my Sony AIT2 tape device (or tapes) itself - see log below. I've checked Google for ERR-Invalid argument, and have since used my Cleaning Tape a number of times on the drive and also tried a few new blank tapes on the device. This might not be directly a Bacula issue as I am getting the same errors with btape/test and tar commands. Here is my tar test commands and responses: [@ bacula]# mt -f /dev/nst0 rewind [@ bacula]# tar cvf /dev/nst0 . ./ ./mtx-changer ./grant_mysql_privileges ./grant_bacula_privileges ./bacula-sd.conf tar: /dev/nst0: Cannot write: Invalid argument tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now [@ bacula]# mt -f /dev/nst0 rewind [@ bacula]# tar tvf /dev/nst0 tar: /dev/nst0: Cannot read: Invalid argument tar: At beginning of tape, quitting now tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now [@ bacula]# mt -f /dev/nst0 rewind Here is my btape SonyAIT test results: *test ... 08-Nov 09:21 btape: btape Error: block.c:552 Write error at 0:0 on device /dev/nst0. ERR=Invalid argument. 08-Nov 09:21 btape: btape Error: Backspace record at EOT failed. ERR=Input/output error btape: btape.c:782 Error writing block to device. *quit Can anybody help me out on this please? Is my tape device itself faulty or not compatable? Or are there other configurations that I need to make first? -- Many Thanks Alan To 07-Nov 21:30 Server-dir: Start Backup JobId 26, Job=2006_BCo_Scheduled_Backup.2006-11-07_21.30.00 07-Nov 21:30 Server-dir: Created new Volume Daily-0001 in catalog. 07-Nov 21:30 Server-sd: 2006_BCo_Scheduled_Backup.2006-11-07_21.30.00 Error: block.c:782 Read error at file:blk 0:0 on device /dev/nst0. ERR=Invalid argument. 07-Nov 21:30 Server-sd: 2006_BCo_Scheduled_Backup.2006-11-07_21.30.00 Error: block.c:552 Write error at 0:0 on device /dev/nst0. ERR=Invalid argument. 07-Nov 21:30 Server-sd: 2006_BCo_Scheduled_Backup.2006-11-07_21.30.00 Fatal error: askdir.c:219 NULL Volume name. This shouldn't happen!!! 07-Nov 21:30 Server-sd: 2006_BCo_Scheduled_Backup.2006-11-07_21.30.00 Fatal error: Job 26 canceled. 07-Nov 21:30 Server-fd: 2006_BCo_Scheduled_Backup.2006-11-07_21.30.00 Fatal error: job.c:1665 Bad response to Append Data command. Wanted 3000 OK data , got 3903 Error append data 07-Nov 21:30 Server-dir: 2006_BCo_Scheduled_Backup.2006-11-07_21.30.00 Error: Bacula 1.36.2 (28Feb05): 07-Nov-2006 21:30:36 JobId: 26 Job: 2006_BCo_Scheduled_Backup.2006-11-07_21.30.00 Backup Level: Differential, since=2006-11-06 21:30:03 Client: Server-fd FileSet: BCo_All_Files 2006-10-30 22:34:19 Pool: DiffPool Storage: SonyAIT Start time: 07-Nov-2006 21:30:02 End time: 07-Nov-2006 21:30:36 FD Files Written: 0 SD Files Written: 0 FD Bytes Written: 0 SD Bytes Written: 0 Rate: 0.0 KB/s Software Compression: None Volume name(s): Volume Session Id: 2 Volume Session Time: 1162813870 Last Volume Bytes: 0 Non-fatal FD errors: 0 SD Errors: 0 FD termination status: Error SD termination status: Error Termination: *** Backup Error *** -Original Message- From: Alan To [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 November 2006 11:37 To: 'bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net' Subject: RE: [Bacula-users] Backup Method with Multiple Media Types - Resend Hi All Just updated the configuration and attempted to restart Bacula, got this error: bacula-dir: ERROR TERMINATION at run_conf.c:192 Config error: Expected an equals, got: mon : line 610, col 53 of file /etc/bacula/bacula-dir.conf Run = Level=Full Storage=USB2 Pool=FullPool mon at 22:30 My Schedule part of bacula.dir is: Schedule { Name = 2006BCoCycle Run = Level=Full Storage=USB2 Pool=FullPool mon at
Re: [Bacula-users] Problems with accentuation in windows
Hello Diego. This is a problem which had already been discussed. I had the same problem and as far as i understood the problem is that bacula handles UTF-8 only. That will be fixed later on. If you change you bacula-dir.conf encoding to UTF-8 and rewrite all the accentuated character it will work. If you need any help you may contact me directly in Portuguese. Jaime Jaime Ventura [Infra-estruturas e Comunicações] Rua Dr. António Bernardino de Almeida, 431 4200 - 072 Porto Telef: +351 22 834 05 00 (04) - ext. 1641 Fax: +351 22 832 11 59 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] url:www.isep.ipp.pt http://www.isep.ipp.pt Diego Rozzini Pires wrote: Hi!! I start using Bacula a few days ago. I don't have any problem using it and I'm really happy with it. But a few days I needed to add to include one folder to a FileSet for one of my Windows Server. The name of the folder is: cotação. The full is: e:/Util/cotação. But, when de job run, I got error: 08-Nov 16:17 zen-srv7-fd: Could not stat e:/Util/cotação: ERR=O sistema não pode encontrar o arquivo especificado. (Trying to translate: The system couldn't find the file) But, that is the director and the full path. Other files and directories with accentuions that was inside other folders, i don't have problems, that files are backuped and recovered without any errors. I tought that was a problem with configuration in LANG in my system, but making tests, i could create and read any file with accentuation. I'm usind LANG=pt_BR.ISO8859-1, my kernel has built-in suport iso-8859-1 and module support for nls_cp850 and i do a modprobe in it in every boot. Bacula Version: 1.38.9 O.S. Gentoo kernel 2.6.17 (sorry for my poor english) - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Tape access speed with LTO3
The top speed I've achieved with an IBM 3581 L38 was around 30 MB/s on a test (btest). With bacula, local disk (sata): JobId: 1384 Job:srv-backup.2006-10-27_22.05.07 Backup Level: Full Client: srv-backup x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu,suse,10.0 FileSet:srv-backup-fs 2006-05-11 11:18:34 Pool: Default Storage:lto Scheduled time: 27-Oct-2006 22:05:06 Start time: 28-Oct-2006 03:49:40 End time: 28-Oct-2006 04:33:46 Elapsed time: 44 mins 6 secs Priority: 500 FD Files Written: 216,994 SD Files Written: 216,994 FD Bytes Written: 48,200,304,853 (48.20 GB) SD Bytes Written: 48,231,485,273 (48.23 GB) Rate: 18216.3 KB/s Software Compression: None Volume name(s): bac-0001 Volume Session Id: 31 Volume Session Time:1161792332 Last Volume Bytes: 222,847,029,453 (222.8 GB) Non-fatal FD errors:0 SD Errors: 0 FD termination status: OK SD termination status: OK Termination:Backup OK and over a Gb net: 29-Oct 04:27 srv-backup-dir: Bacula 1.38.11 (28Jun06): 29-Oct-2006 04:27:53 JobId: 1387 Job:bd-unrc-full.2006-10-29_04.01.00 Backup Level: Full Client: bd-unrc x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu,suse,10.0 FileSet:bd-unrc_full-fs 2006-07-14 12:55:52 Pool: Default Storage:lto Scheduled time: 29-Oct-2006 04:01:00 Start time: 29-Oct-2006 04:01:24 End time: 29-Oct-2006 04:27:53 Elapsed time: 26 mins 29 secs Priority: 10 FD Files Written: 131,196 SD Files Written: 131,196 FD Bytes Written: 31,528,273,511 (31.52 GB) SD Bytes Written: 31,545,629,755 (31.54 GB) Rate: 19841.6 KB/s Software Compression: None Volume name(s): bac-0001 Volume Session Id: 32 Volume Session Time:1161792332 Last Volume Bytes: 254,420,061,578 (254.4 GB) Non-fatal FD errors:0 SD Errors: 0 FD termination status: OK SD termination status: OK Termination:Backup OK I believe the bottleneck are the disks/network. El Miércoles, 8 de Noviembre de 2006 10:00, Adam Huffman escribió: What sort of backup speed should I expect when using Bacula with an LTO3 library? I'm seeing nothing like the advertised 60-80MB/s. Adam -- Cris. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Tape access speed with LTO3
On 11/9/06, Carlos Cristóbal Sabroe Yde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The top speed I've achieved with an IBM 3581 L38 was around 30 MB/s on a test(btest).Have you tried a test of the raw tape speed? When I first got mt lto-2 library I did a few tests like the following time dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/nst0 bs=1G count=10and I got around 35MB/s.With my drive (LTO-2) which I believe is supposed backup at (20 to 40MB/s) I generally get around 21MB/s with bacula on most backups from a raid6 array on a remote system over a gigabit network with the database on a third machine and with MD5 signitures and medical image data that generally compresses around 1.3/1 to 1.5 /1John - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Backup Method with Multiple Media Types - AIT2 Issue
Hi Again All Ignore that last question; tar, bacula and btape all don't like /dev/sg2! Anyway, while the Sony TapeTool happily checks/tests and read/write tapes, using tar/bacula/bconsole etc. still give me the error (this is via bconsole's label command): Connecting to Storage daemon SonyAIT at localhost:9103 ... Sending label command for Volume Thu-A Slot 0 ... block.c:782 Read error at file:blk 0:0 on device /dev/nst0. ERR=Invalid argument. block.c:552 Write error at 0:0 on device /dev/nst0. ERR=Invalid argument. askdir.c:219 NULL Volume name. This shouldn't happen!!! 3912 Failed to label Volume: ERR=block.c:782 Read error at file:blk 0:0 on device /dev/nst0. ERR=Invalid argument. Label command failed for Volume Thu-A. Do not forget to mount the drive!!! Is my Sony SDX-520C not compatable with Bacula or my Linux Server? I'm running Bacula 1.36 that comes with ClarkConnect Office Edition 3.2r1, Kernal Version 2.6.9-28.ccsmp (SMP). Server-dir Version: 1.36.2 (28 February 2005) i686-redhat-linux-gnu redhat. -- Regards Alan To -Original Message- From: Alan To [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 November 2006 09:32 To: 'Robert Nelson';'bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net' Subject: RE: [Bacula-users] Backup Method with Multiple Media Types - AIT2 Issue Many Thanks Robert - I'm running tests with the Linux Sony TapeTool now. Reading the Sony documentation, I notice that it tells me to use /dev/sg2 (after a cat /proc/scsi/scsi command). With tar, btape and bacula (including configurations) I have been using /dev/nst0! Would that be where my problem lies, incorrect device? -- Best Regards Alan To -Original Message- From: Robert Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 November 2006 20:41 To: 'Alan To';bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Bacula-users] Backup Method with Multiple Media Types - AIT2 Issue Are these new tapes? I've seen weird problems like this with bulk-erased tapes. I fixed it by formatting them with Windows version Sony's TapeTool. I'm not sure which variant of Unix you are using but here is a link to the Linux one. http://sony.storagesupport.com/tapetool/linux.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan To Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 2:22 AM To: bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Bacula-users] Backup Method with Multiple Media Types - AIT2 Issue Hi All Many Thanks to everybody who helped out on the multiple media types and correctly scheduling the Full and Differential backups for me. The schedule and media switch works now, but... Something is wrong with my Sony AIT2 tape device (or tapes) itself - see log below. I've checked Google for ERR-Invalid argument, and have since used my Cleaning Tape a number of times on the drive and also tried a few new blank tapes on the device. This might not be directly a Bacula issue as I am getting the same errors with btape/test and tar commands. Here is my tar test commands and responses: [@ bacula]# mt -f /dev/nst0 rewind [@ bacula]# tar cvf /dev/nst0 . ./ ./mtx-changer ./grant_mysql_privileges ./grant_bacula_privileges ./bacula-sd.conf tar: /dev/nst0: Cannot write: Invalid argument tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now [@ bacula]# mt -f /dev/nst0 rewind [@ bacula]# tar tvf /dev/nst0 tar: /dev/nst0: Cannot read: Invalid argument tar: At beginning of tape, quitting now tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now [@ bacula]# mt -f /dev/nst0 rewind Here is my btape SonyAIT test results: *test ... 08-Nov 09:21 btape: btape Error: block.c:552 Write error at 0:0 on device /dev/nst0. ERR=Invalid argument. 08-Nov 09:21 btape: btape Error: Backspace record at EOT failed. ERR=Input/output error btape: btape.c:782 Error writing block to device. *quit Can anybody help me out on this please? Is my tape device itself faulty or not compatable? Or are there other configurations that I need to make first? -- Many Thanks Alan To 07-Nov 21:30 Server-dir: Start Backup JobId 26, Job=2006_BCo_Scheduled_Backup.2006-11-07_21.30.00 07-Nov 21:30 Server-dir: Created new Volume Daily-0001 in catalog. 07-Nov 21:30 Server-sd: 2006_BCo_Scheduled_Backup.2006-11-07_21.30.00 Error: block.c:782 Read error at file:blk 0:0 on device /dev/nst0. ERR=Invalid argument. 07-Nov 21:30 Server-sd: 2006_BCo_Scheduled_Backup.2006-11-07_21.30.00 Error: block.c:552 Write error at 0:0 on device /dev/nst0. ERR=Invalid argument. 07-Nov 21:30 Server-sd: 2006_BCo_Scheduled_Backup.2006-11-07_21.30.00 Fatal error: askdir.c:219 NULL Volume name. This shouldn't happen!!! 07-Nov 21:30 Server-sd: 2006_BCo_Scheduled_Backup.2006-11-07_21.30.00 Fatal error: Job 26 canceled. 07-Nov 21:30 Server-fd: 2006_BCo_Scheduled_Backup.2006-11-07_21.30.00 Fatal error: job.c:1665 Bad response to Append Data command. Wanted 3000 OK data , got 3903 Error append data 07-Nov 21:30 Server-dir: 2006_BCo_Scheduled_Backup.2006-11-07_21.30.00 Error:
Re: [Bacula-users] reloading components' configuration
On Tuesday 07 November 2006 21:59, Arno Lehmann wrote: Hi, On 11/7/2006 1:31 PM, Silver Salonen wrote: On Tuesday 07 November 2006 14:28, Dan Langille wrote: On 7 Nov 2006 at 14:17, Silver Salonen wrote: Hi. I'm a little concerned here about the fact that it's not possible to reload bacula-sd's and bacula-fd's configuration without restarting them. Not something I found a problem. Yes, but don't you see the potential of this becoming a problem some day? :) Such reloading by sending HUP is implemented in most server-apps.. why not in Bacula? I've had situations where adding new clients has to wait until current backups are finished transferring data to bacula-sd (it may take several days as backup-server may be located in WAN), so the problem could be almost as critical as doing backups is. I could avoid this waiting if I used only one device for all the backups, but currently this is not possible/considerable because devices cannot have more than 1 concurrent job. Will these limits persist in Bacula 1.40 also? AFAIK, yes. I have not heard of any work being done in this area. Funny. I guess I don't understand the question. You can set up the SD devices to allow multiple concurrent jobs. For tape storage, the number of drives is fixed enough in the sense that adding more drives doesn't happen often enough to need a dynamic SD reconfiguration IMO, so I suppose you're talking about disk file based volumes. Yes I'm using disk based volumes everywhere. How can you set up SD devices that allow multiple concurrent jobs? I've tried it unsuccessfully in several ways, but.. I guess I miss something simple there.. We've written about this in another thread though ;) With specific requirements I can think about the need for a storage device per client, but I wouldn't want such a configuration monster :-) so I prefer to find a solution where I get what I want with a fine-grained pool setup, and only one or, possibly, a very limited number of storage devices. Doesn't anyone besides me miss this? Not me, at least. Should I submit feature requests for reloading components' configuration Go ahead - let the voters decide ;-) and for adding parameter maximum concurrent jobs for devices? That's implemented now, and has been around as long as I know Bacula. IIRC. Arno Where? Device resource doesn't support this - when I set Maximum Concurrent Jobs = 10 in Device resource, /etc/init.d/bacula start tells me: * Starting bacula storage daemon ... 09-Nov 16:52 bacula-sd: ERROR TERMINATION at parse_conf.c:834 Config error: Keyword MaximumConcurrentJobs not permitted in this resource. Perhaps you left the trailing brace off of the previous resource. : line 69, col 25 of file /etc/bacula/bacula-sd.conf Maximum Concurrent Jobs = 10 Silver - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] maximum concurrent jobs for a job
On Wednesday 11 October 2006 21:44, Arno Lehmann wrote: Hi, On 10/11/2006 1:31 PM, Silver Salonen wrote: Hi. I'm testing Bacula 1.38.9 on Gentoo 2006.1 and I'm a little confused here. What I would like to achieve is to be able to run a job concurrently with the same job's different levels. Tricky, IMO. Mostly because I don't know if it will work as you expect, but a simple test case could confirm that. For example, when there's a full backup running for a week, it'd be possible to run incrementals or differentials at the same time (based on the last successful full backup), I do think that, if you have a full job running, any jobs of a different level would be upgraded to a full because the last full job available is not terminated Ok. I didn't check the source or try it, though. so that I wouldn't lose that week's differentials (that will run right after the full backup completes, but then there wouldn't be much use of them, would there?). So I have to enable at least 2 concurrent jobs for the job, right? That sounds correct. The problem is that every job can have only 1 Device (through Storage) assigned to it, so it isn't actually possible to run the same job concurrently as Device doesn't have the maximum concurrent jobs directive. Can my goal be achieved in some other way? Yes. Either use different pools (which you might do anyway beause of the different retention times) and assign a storage device to the pools. This works only with 1.39.something, though. Or use a job override in the schedule, forcing the backups of different levels to different devices. That works with 1.36., perhaps also older versions, which I know because I did it long enough :-) Arno Hi again. I took up testing it again so here are my results. I tried the 2nd option as I'm using Bacula 1.38.9, but I couldn't get 2 jobs to run into the same directory simultaneously. I set up a schedule that would start differential backup 2 minutes after full backup (16:16 and 16:18) and that would override Storage. I checked status client periodically during the full backup and I didn't see that the differential job had started. Differential started, when full job eventually finished (16:35). Did I misconfigured something? Would you please assist me? :) Silver Configuration (only these things that matter to my mind ;) == bacula-dir == Director { ... Maximum Concurrent Jobs = 10 } Client { Name = btest-fd Catalog = MySQL ... } Schedule { Name = WeeklyCycle2Storages Run = Level=Full Storage=storage-btest-full thu at 16:16 Run = Level=Differential thu at 16:18 } Storage { Name = storage-btest Device = device-btest Media Type = files-btest ... } Storage { Name = storage-btest-full Device = device-btest-full Media Type = files-btest ... } JobDefs { Name= default-btest Client = btest-fd Maximum Concurrent Jobs = 10 Storage = storage-btest ... } Job { Name= btest-test JobDefs = default-btest FileSet = test Schedule= WeeklyCycle2Storages Full Backup Pool= pool-btest-full Differential Backup Pool= pool-btest-diff Write Bootstrap = /var/bacula/btest-test.bsr } Pool { Name = pool-btest-diff ... } Pool { Name = pool-btest-full ... } == bacula-sd == Storage { ... Maximum Concurrent Jobs = 20 } Device { Name = device-btest Media Type = files-btest Archive Device = /backup/bacula/btest ... } Device { Name = device-btest-full Media Type = files-btest Archive Device = /backup/bacula/btest ... } == bacula-fd == FileDaemon { ... Maximum Concurrent Jobs = 20 } - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Tape access speed with LTO3
On Thu, 9 Nov 2006, John Drescher wrote: Have you tried a test of the raw tape speed? When I first got mt lto-2 library I did a few tests like the following time dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/nst0 bs=1G count=10 and I got around 35MB/s. Try if=/dev/zero and if=/dev/random AB - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Tape access speed with LTO3
From: Adam Huffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] What sort of backup speed should I expect when using Bacula with an LTO3 library? I'm seeing nothing like the advertised 60-80MB/s. The tape drive speed is not the bottleneck, then. The number of files saved (or, seen from another point, their average size) has a large influence. For instance I get : FD Files Written: 11,608 SD Files Written: 11,608 FD Bytes Written: 1,593,770,921 (1.593 GB) SD Bytes Written: 1,595,662,849 (1.595 GB) Rate: 34647.2 KB/s FD Files Written: 179,040 SD Files Written: 179,040 FD Bytes Written: 13,268,207,376 (13.26 GB) SD Bytes Written: 13,292,405,638 (13.29 GB) Rate: 22915.7 KB/s FD Files Written: 154,664 SD Files Written: 154,664 FD Bytes Written: 3,127,551,736 (3.127 GB) SD Bytes Written: 3,148,432,104 (3.148 GB) Rate: 9992.2 KB/s All are full backups on a LTO3 through a Gbit/s ethernet with no particular tuning. I don't know if this is mainly due to the filesystem on the client or the index database on the server. The second result above is the server itself. Same hardware as the first one, relatively similar average file size, but noticeably slower when both non-tape-related IOs combine (at least, that's my guess). - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] bacula-mysql rpm error? buildcentos4 hostname?
On Nov 7, 2006, at 2:15 PM, Paul Cubbage wrote: When I install using bacula-mysql-1.38.11-3i386.rpm bacula-mtx-1.38.11-3i386.rpm the config files all have buildcentos4 as the hostname and the address = name That hostname string is nowhere on my system before I install the rpms but it appears in the 2 rpms when I grep them. Bacula works in a test mode if I change my system hostname to buildcentos and have everything operate on that box. I don't want to implement using a script to change all of the appearances of buildcentos. Am I doing something wrong? This looks like an error in the RPM to me but I can't be certain. Hi Paul, You're supposed to be modifying the config files to suit your system, not the other way around. It's not like all the other config file settings are correct. Think of the included config as a template. Alex - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
[Bacula-users] Update: Re: Rescue cd create/make problem
1. The 'nix restore process is working. My process is as discussed earlier, install a base system with bacula and restore everything except - /sys /proc *and* /boot. I learned quite a bit about getting the drive configuration right, but I successfully restored a working RH server. 2. I'm still interested in testing the new recovery cd solution when Kern returns. 3. Now, I'm trying to conquer OSX 10.4... I saw a couple of posts here, but it doesn't look like anyone's *actually* done it by restoring the system. I don't mind figuring it out, but if you can give me a push in the right direction or keep me from repeating your mistakes I'd appreciate the time saved. Almost everything I've read says to use imaging or reinstall everything and restore only the data. The bootcd solutions I found are not for 10.4 or based on creating a bootcd from the OS installation disk. There are a couple of commercial products, but my goal is a one-stop solution that a backup expert can use without being an OSX expert, too. That said... Should I try doing it the same as for 'nix, but using the above- mentioned bootcd? Is BSD significantly different (all my 'nix are RH or CentOS), and if it is should I start with that process? I do actually work on these systems, but mostly remote and on the command line. TIA for any/everything. Don. Thanks for the education. I knew about /proc, but /sys is news to me. Again, many thanks. Don. On Wed, 2006-09-13 at 10:49 +0200, Kern Sibbald wrote: On Wednesday 13 September 2006 06:09, MacArthur, Don wrote: Hi to all! I took the advice about loading a minimal OS config and then restoring from backup. I have another issue that may or may not be related to the restore... I used restore all from the console, with files being replaced always and the where set to /. However, after entering the / for the where parm the field appeared blank. Yes, blank is the same thing as /. No matter, or so I thought. Near the end of the restore process as it is trying to restore the sys/dev folder (some of which can't be restored because it's in use) the server ceases to communicate. No ping, not bacula client response... Well, you should not be trying to restore /sys or /proc. If you have backed them up, then you will need to exclude them from the restore. These are virtual directories created by the OS, and writing into them could cause lots of damage. I rebooted the server and after loading vmlinuz... If you rebooted the server without completing the restore, there is little chance it will boot up. What does loading vmlinuz... mean? If you did not restore everything in /boot AND if you did not rewrite the boot sector with grub (or possibly lilo), there is no chance that your system will boot. I get an error saying that it can't find the root (/) folder, and then the kernel panics. I'm thinking that there are some folders that I should know to exclude from the restore, but don't have the experience to know about. I'm trying to follow the docs (not a complaint, just want you to know I'm not lazy), but I don't see anything different from what I'm doing. They are actually directories that you should exclude from the backup, and there are several places in the doc that show examples. However, it is true, you sort of have to know as it may not be as explicitly stated as it should be -- I'll look at the document in the near future. If you have specified directories or filesystems such as /proc and /sys in your backup, then you can still do a restore, but you will need to explicitly exclude them. Links to mail list threads and/or documentation are welcome - I'm willing to do my homework, I just need a nudge or a shove in the right direction - as are outright answers. Again, I appreciate the features and quality of bacula, you guys are great. Don. PS. I'm willing to do some beta testing as Kern requested, but I'm booked through mid-October. If it's still needed at that time I'll be happy to help. Well, hopefully, I will have the new rescue working the way I want in another day or two, and then documented within the next week. You will be free to try it in mid-October, and by then it should be working at least for SuSE 10.1 systems, which is what I am running, but I will be on vacation (a real vacation this time) from mid-October to mid-November. Regards, Kern -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Arno Lehmann Sent: Tue 9/12/2006 12:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Rescue cd create/make problem Hi, On 9/12/2006 1:39 AM, Don MacArthur wrote: Sorry to be so chatty- Failure: when I eject the bacula boot cd, restart the
Re: [Bacula-users] Tape access speed with LTO3
On 11/9/06, Alan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 9 Nov 2006, John Drescher wrote: Have you tried a test of the raw tape speed? When I first got mt lto-2 library I did a few tests like the following time dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/nst0 bs=1G count=10 and I got around 35MB/s.Try if=/dev/zero and if=/dev/randomABI did not do /dev/zero because of hardware compression. I guess I could turn that off but isn't /dev/random 1 byte at a time?? John - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula Rescue - Solaris 10 - getdiskinfo errors - error on route command
On Nov 8, 2006, at 2:05 PM, Attila Fülöp wrote: A Think Tank wrote: I am trying to go though the rescue procedures / preparation for Solaris, SunOS 5.10 Generic sun4u sparc SUNW,Sun-Fire-V240, as directed by the documentation. I have a couple of errors with the command /usr/local/src/bacula-rescue-1.8.6/solaris/getdiskinfo Error on if statement Begin collecting system info ./getdiskinfo: test: argument expected I changed the if syntax to read: - if [ -e /etc/fstab ]; then + if [ -r /etc/fstab ]; then for all instances of the -e expression and it seemed to work just fine. It identified that i have a vfstab file and read that. Error on route command. route -n route.bsi error message usage: route [ -fnqv ] cmd [[ -qualifers ] args ] I am just not sure how to fix this, because I am not sure what the command is trying to gather. The routing table, this is a linux'ism. Use netstat -rn but be aware that the output differs slightly. debian:~# route -n Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface . solaris:~# netstat -rn Routing Table: IPv4 Destination Gateway Flags Ref Use Interface - - -- - . netstat -rn also works on Linux (at least on my Debian and RH boxes), so perhaps the script should be changed to just use that. debftp1:~# netstat -rn Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 165.123.89.00.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 0.0.0.0 165.123.89.10.0.0.0 UG0 0 0 eth0 debftp1:~# route -n Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 165.123.89.00.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 0.0.0.0 165.123.89.10.0.0.0 UG0 0 0 eth0 Alex - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula under Windows 2003 64 bit.
On Tuesday 17 October 2006 06:09, Troy Daniels wrote: Greetings, We are looking at introducing 6 new Windows 2003 Enterprise 64 Servers into our business in the not too distant future. As the rest of the servers (Mostly Redhat EL3 with a few FreeBSD boxes and a couple of 32 bit Windows servers) are backed up using Bacula we intend to use it on these new beasts as well. Has anyone had experience running Bacula under 64 bit windows? Are 64 bit binaries needed and/or available for Bacula? We'd only need to run File Daemons on the new boxes with backups getting done from our existing Director. We are currently running 1.38.5 but I'm planning on upgrading to 1.40 when it comes out (If I had more time, I'd be upgraded to the latest 1.39 Beta version already to help testing it) Also, if anyone has any information on known limits in the Windows Bacula client (Path lengths, etc) that would be good - one of the other staff here has vague recollections of a maximum path length of 164 characters for restores. In version 1.38.x the maximum Windows total path length is 260 characters. On version 1.39.x and above, it should be limited to something like 65K characters. Any and all information appreciated, Cheers, Troy Daniels Systems Administrator iTouch Australia (pty) ltd. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula under Windows 2003 64 bit.
Actually the Path name limit in version 1.39.x and above is 32767. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kern Sibbald Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 11:18 AM To: bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net Cc: Troy Daniels Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula under Windows 2003 64 bit. On Tuesday 17 October 2006 06:09, Troy Daniels wrote: Greetings, We are looking at introducing 6 new Windows 2003 Enterprise 64 Servers into our business in the not too distant future. As the rest of the servers (Mostly Redhat EL3 with a few FreeBSD boxes and a couple of 32 bit Windows servers) are backed up using Bacula we intend to use it on these new beasts as well. Has anyone had experience running Bacula under 64 bit windows? Are 64 bit binaries needed and/or available for Bacula? We'd only need to run File Daemons on the new boxes with backups getting done from our existing Director. We are currently running 1.38.5 but I'm planning on upgrading to 1.40 when it comes out (If I had more time, I'd be upgraded to the latest 1.39 Beta version already to help testing it) Also, if anyone has any information on known limits in the Windows Bacula client (Path lengths, etc) that would be good - one of the other staff here has vague recollections of a maximum path length of 164 characters for restores. In version 1.38.x the maximum Windows total path length is 260 characters. On version 1.39.x and above, it should be limited to something like 65K characters. Any and all information appreciated, Cheers, Troy Daniels Systems Administrator iTouch Australia (pty) ltd. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Problems with BaculaSD
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matti Jormakka wrote: That the connection was refused seems significant. At least on a Centos4 system with a default firewall configured, ports that are not explicitely permitted are rejected. You don't say what OS you are running, but you might check if firewall software is running locally and open the appropriate ports, with source address controls as necessary. OS is Ubuntu Dapper and all relevant ports should be open in netfilter. Connect from another host on the network, like 10.0.0.3 or something like that if you have access to that host. If THAT machine can't reach 10.0.0.5:9103 (which I suspect will be the case), you'll know for sure. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users - -- _ _ _ _ ___ _ _ _ |Y#| | | |\/| | \ |\ | | |Ryan Novosielski - Systems Programmer III |$| |__| | | |__/ | \| _| |[EMAIL PROTECTED] - 973/972.0922 (2-0922) \__/ Univ. of Med. and Dent.|IST/AST - NJMS Medical Science Bldg - C630 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFU5n6mb+gadEcsb4RAoyoAJ98kh9pQj2mkc4G+CAFDr3kg4EATQCggCwu 4qEt16Ys57usiPUkJ06A5BM= =cosH -END PGP SIGNATURE- - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Tape access speed with LTO3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Adam Huffman wrote: Is the data compressable? A mixture - some already compressed, some images, some XML data etc. The library and the disks are on the same fibre channel fabric, so I wouldn't expect that to be a bottleneck. I'm using SQLite for the catalog- would that really make much of a difference? In this case, who knows, but the default answer is yes. SQLite3 particularly, but I believe 2 isn't known for its speed either. - -- _ _ _ _ ___ _ _ _ |Y#| | | |\/| | \ |\ | | |Ryan Novosielski - Systems Programmer III |$| |__| | | |__/ | \| _| |[EMAIL PROTECTED] - 973/972.0922 (2-0922) \__/ Univ. of Med. and Dent.|IST/AST - NJMS Medical Science Bldg - C630 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFU5twmb+gadEcsb4RArfIAKCGW0qa8z+GgvUoyzdCkYi3Sn6aUgCfeLKN qScAG7m7D3nZVZ/HJDwMPIs= =GHNQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Server Crash on SLES 10
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 There are detailed explanations on the list if you look back sufficiently far about which kernels have this problem and which do not. I suggest you take a look and see if you might be affected. Thomas Traeger wrote: Hello list, Tonight we experienced a server crash during the bacula backup. The last messages from bacula (captured after reboot in bconsole): 03-Nov 00:43 pdc02-sd: backup_ora01.2006-11-02_21.15.02 Error: block.c:538 Write error at 303:4210 on device Quantum_SDLT320 (/dev/nst0). ERR=Device or resource busy. 03-Nov 00:43 pdc02-sd: backup_ora01.2006-11-02_21.15.02 Error: Re-read of last block OK, but block numbers differ. Last block=166408 Current block=0. 03-Nov 00:43 pdc02-sd: End of medium on Volume IFS_daily_2 Bytes=303,252,171,056 Blocks=4,700,710 at 03-Nov-2006 00:43. At the same time there is a logentry in /var/log/messages: Nov 3 00:43:16 ifs01 kernel: Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 0524c3f0 We are using SLES 10 with the latest patches, bacula 1.38.11-3 installed using the rpm packages provided for Suse 10.1. The hardware is a Fujitsu Siemens RX300R3 and a Dell PowerVault 122T with a Quantum SDLT320 drive. This is not the first problem with this combination, in fact we had a similar? problem last weekend. A tape was claimed to be full at the size of around 40GB of 160GB uncompressed. After inserting a new tape and trying to labelling it the Dell PowerVault stopped working and had to be replaced. Is anyone else experiencing such strange things? Is there a connection to recently reported problems with a stock Suse 10.1 Kernel? AFAIK SLES 10 is based on Suse 10.1. Thanks, Thomas - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users - -- _ _ _ _ ___ _ _ _ |Y#| | | |\/| | \ |\ | | |Ryan Novosielski - Systems Programmer III |$| |__| | | |__/ | \| _| |[EMAIL PROTECTED] - 973/972.0922 (2-0922) \__/ Univ. of Med. and Dent.|IST/AST - NJMS Medical Science Bldg - C630 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFU5zomb+gadEcsb4RAsnrAJ9VTTCGgvBYYXA0BtZPbZgtIpVQfgCgiq94 r7GbocuFk+aIW2KsHHRGJQo= =n9wU -END PGP SIGNATURE- - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Tape access speed with LTO3
I have a 7-disk raid fibre attached and a lto3 scsi attached to my sd, and I get the same throughput for both. I run 10 jobs (two from each client) to each store concurrently. I don't think the medium or the connection are the holdup. My network throughput at that time varies around 750 mbps. I'm running postgres, director, sd, and catalog on the internal scsi hardware raid 5 volume. FWIW. On Thu, 2006-11-09 at 16:19 -0500, Ryan Novosielski wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Adam Huffman wrote: Is the data compressable? A mixture - some already compressed, some images, some XML data etc. The library and the disks are on the same fibre channel fabric, so I wouldn't expect that to be a bottleneck. I'm using SQLite for the catalog- would that really make much of a difference? In this case, who knows, but the default answer is yes. SQLite3 particularly, but I believe 2 isn't known for its speed either. - -- _ _ _ _ ___ _ _ _ |Y#| | | |\/| | \ |\ | | |Ryan Novosielski - Systems Programmer III |$| |__| | | |__/ | \| _| |[EMAIL PROTECTED] - 973/972.0922 (2-0922) \__/ Univ. of Med. and Dent.|IST/AST - NJMS Medical Science Bldg - C630 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFU5twmb+gadEcsb4RArfIAKCGW0qa8z+GgvUoyzdCkYi3Sn6aUgCfeLKN qScAG7m7D3nZVZ/HJDwMPIs= =GHNQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Tape access speed with LTO3
On 11/9/06, Don MacArthur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a 7-disk raid fibre attached and a lto3 scsi attached to my sd,and I get the same throughput for both.I run 10 jobs (two from eachclient) to each store concurrently. Both what? What backup speeds are you getting?Thanks,John - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Tape access speed with LTO3
On 11/9/06, Don MacArthur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The jobs are written to both the raid and the tape at almost identicalspeeds.I don't know what my total throughput is,but the transfer rate for each job is about 1.5mbps to 3mbps.For a few minutes after reading this I was very confused about that but after reading your first post again where you said that you run 10 concurrent jobs so these numbers make sense... John - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Tape access speed with LTO3
As a reminder, the director/sd/database system is supporting 20 concurrent jobs, 10 to tape and 10 to raid. It's a 2-cpu hp dl380 G4, 3.4GHz cpus and 3.5Gb ram. On Thu, 2006-11-09 at 17:29 -0500, John Drescher wrote: On 11/9/06, Don MacArthur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The jobs are written to both the raid and the tape at almost identical speeds. I don't know what my total throughput is,but the transfer rate for each job is about 1.5mbps to 3mbps. For a few minutes after reading this I was very confused about that but after reading your first post again where you said that you run 10 concurrent jobs so these numbers make sense... John - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] reloading components' configuration
Hi, On 11/9/2006 3:56 PM, Silver Salonen wrote: On Tuesday 07 November 2006 21:59, Arno Lehmann wrote: Hi, On 11/7/2006 1:31 PM, Silver Salonen wrote: On Tuesday 07 November 2006 14:28, Dan Langille wrote: On 7 Nov 2006 at 14:17, Silver Salonen wrote: Hi. I'm a little concerned here about the fact that it's not possible to reload bacula-sd's and bacula-fd's configuration without restarting them. Not something I found a problem. Yes, but don't you see the potential of this becoming a problem some day? :) Such reloading by sending HUP is implemented in most server-apps.. why not in Bacula? Well, I can see this being a problem, but the reason whiy I wrote Not something I found a problem, together with my more detailed explanation, is that this never was a problem _for me_ :-) ... Yes I'm using disk based volumes everywhere. How can you set up SD devices that allow multiple concurrent jobs? I've tried it unsuccessfully in several ways, but.. I guess I miss something simple there.. We've written about this in another thread though ;) Well, I just followed the manual: - Set Maximum Concurrent Jobs in the Storage section of the SD conf - Set Maximum Concurrent Jobs in the Storage section of the DIR conf - Set it in the Job and / or client setup as needed, too = voilà Arno -- IT-Service Lehmann[EMAIL PROTECTED] Arno Lehmann http://www.its-lehmann.de - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Is Bacula for me: Videography business backups
Hi, On 11/9/2006 1:55 AM, Bill Moran wrote: On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:49:30 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Arno Lehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Currently, the windows FD is running stable and reliable IMO. Unfortunately, I have some problems with VSS backups (windows' name for volume snapshots) where files can't be accessed when I do a snapshot but can be accessed without VSS. For backups of data files not in use during backup operations, this should not be a problem. I'm not sure I'm following you here. Are you saying I would not be able to backup files that were in use? Or just not in some special circumstances...? Well, kind of special circumstances. Bill explained it fine enough, I think, but... I'm not sure what role VSS plays or when it might be used but I would need to routinely be able to backup files that are in use. Depends on your definition of in use. If the system has the file locked for writing, you'll have to enable VSS to get a backup of it while it's write locked. If the application has it open read-only, you'll get a good backup either way. The most common problem files are, in my experience, outlook mailboxes: They are large, they change a lot, and they are usually locked. With normal data files you wouldn't have problems, UNLESS these files are written by the application while Bacula reads them. I don't know if Bacula locks the files it reads (in that case your application would get an error) or if it simply stores inconsistent data (which is the common Unix / linux behaviour). On the flip side, I've been using VSS to back up Windows workstations for a few months now with no problems, and all files are able to be backed up no matter how they're opened. Well, it worked here for a long time, too, but then, without any apparent reason, I got problems with VSS. I started to discuss that on bacula-devel, but since the development FD doesn't even run stable here there's not much I can do to debug this :-( Arno -- IT-Service Lehmann[EMAIL PROTECTED] Arno Lehmann http://www.its-lehmann.de - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Bad response to Append Data command. Wanted 3000 OK data, , got 3903 Error append data
Hi, On 11/9/2006 7:25 AM, Ryan Novosielski wrote: I've gotten this one... I'd love to know what it is too. :) Dat's an error ;-) Jake Goerzen wrote: What does it mean when this happens? and is there a way to fix it? 07-Nov 08:40 adam-dir: Start Backup JobId 369, Job=BackupACSRV.2006-11-07_08.40.54 07-Nov 08:40 adam-sd: 3301 Issuing autochanger loaded drive 0 command. 07-Nov 08:41 adam-sd: 3991 Bad autochanger loaded drive 0 command: ERR=Child exited with code 1. 07-Nov 08:41 adam-sd: 3301 Issuing autochanger loaded drive 0 command. 07-Nov 08:41 adam-sd: 3991 Bad autochanger loaded drive 0 command: ERR=Child exited with code 1. Ok, more to the point, this is a failure from the mtx-changer script. It's not a timeout, that would be indicated by a TERM or KILL exit code, but seems to be problem mt or mtx, inside mtx-changer, report. I'd try to unmount the drive using bconsole, then use mtx-changer from the shell with the loaded command and then follow it's operation until you can determine where the problem comes from. Most probably, the mtx command will not get a proper response to a the status command. Most probably you have a stuck autochanger, which doesn't properly respond to mtx commands, which in turn ends with an error. Power-cycling the autochanger sometimes helps, emergency ejecting any tapes and doing an inventory might also help - that depends on the actual problem and, of course, the autochanger you have. Arno -- IT-Service Lehmann[EMAIL PROTECTED] Arno Lehmann http://www.its-lehmann.de - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Fwd: Have some trouble with Bacula
Hi, On 11/2/2006 10:42 AM, Zemchikhin V.M. wrote: Hi. I don't receive any answers. Please, help! I didn't even receive your mail until now :-) Hi, bacula-users. When backuping I receive this messages in console: 31-Oct 11:08 xxx-dir: xxx Warning: sql_create.c:663 More than one Filename! 2 for file: and this is for all backups I'm use remote last stable MySQL server I'm use bacula-1.36.3-r2 This machine is Linux Gentoo 2006 with 2.6.14-hardened-r5 core on double Intel Xeon 2.8 Ghz CPU What's this message means ?? Your catalog database is broken. Try the dbcheck program to fix it. Make sure you've got a database dump in case something goes wrong. Arno -- IT-Service Lehmann[EMAIL PROTECTED] Arno Lehmann http://www.its-lehmann.de - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] archiving / filesets
Hi, On 11/3/2006 8:13 PM, mike castleman wrote: Hi, We are trying to use bacula for archiving data which is important but rarely accessed. I'm wondering if there is a way to specify in the console which files we would like sent to tape without going into the director configuration file and making a new FileSet every time. Did you notice the different syntaxes for the File= directive in the FileSet definition? [EMAIL PROTECTED], File=... and File=\\... might be interesting to read. It's in the manual, DIR configuration, FileSet section, file-list subsection. Arno -- IT-Service Lehmann[EMAIL PROTECTED] Arno Lehmann http://www.its-lehmann.de - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula under Windows 2003 64 bit.
On Thursday 09 November 2006 20:37, Robert Nelson wrote: Actually the Path name limit in version 1.39.x and above is 32767. OK, noted -- thanks. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kern Sibbald Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 11:18 AM To: bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net Cc: Troy Daniels Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula under Windows 2003 64 bit. On Tuesday 17 October 2006 06:09, Troy Daniels wrote: Greetings, We are looking at introducing 6 new Windows 2003 Enterprise 64 Servers into our business in the not too distant future. As the rest of the servers (Mostly Redhat EL3 with a few FreeBSD boxes and a couple of 32 bit Windows servers) are backed up using Bacula we intend to use it on these new beasts as well. Has anyone had experience running Bacula under 64 bit windows? Are 64 bit binaries needed and/or available for Bacula? We'd only need to run File Daemons on the new boxes with backups getting done from our existing Director. We are currently running 1.38.5 but I'm planning on upgrading to 1.40 when it comes out (If I had more time, I'd be upgraded to the latest 1.39 Beta version already to help testing it) Also, if anyone has any information on known limits in the Windows Bacula client (Path lengths, etc) that would be good - one of the other staff here has vague recollections of a maximum path length of 164 characters for restores. In version 1.38.x the maximum Windows total path length is 260 characters. On version 1.39.x and above, it should be limited to something like 65K characters. Any and all information appreciated, Cheers, Troy Daniels Systems Administrator iTouch Australia (pty) ltd. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula status
On Monday 16 October 2006 17:26, Josh Fisher wrote: Kern Sibbald wrote: 1. I have requested help setting up more community participation in testing, bug fixing, and builds of more platforms such as Solaris, FreeBSD, ... This is to ensure that all important platforms are supported better than I could do alone. Is it possible to package the regression scripts? Standardized regression scripts (if possible) along with a web based form or mailing list for posting the results of those tests would make it easier for users with various hardware/platforms to participate in the testing. I assume that you mean by package the regression scripts to make a tar file or some such release? This is possible, but considering that this is a developement activity, I think it is much better for testers to pull the scripts with CVS. It is really rather trivial to do, and it allows an easy upgrade when they are changed. That said, I do think that Dan Langille will be making available a daily tar file from the CVS .. At some point the regression scripts will probably be converted to cmake which facilitates posting the results in a web based manner. Whatever the case may be, making any package or cmake changes will need to be a contributed project. Though the cmake part is what I really would like to see, it is not on my personal list. 2. I am working on setting up some official structure or structures for Bacula, possibly a Swiss Association, perhaps a Foundation. This will be so that in the near term (1-6 months) Bacula will have a charter and a governing board, and equally important, I plan to transfer the source and documentation copyrights, which are currently held in my name into such a permanent neutral entity. I believe this will help ensure the health, and long term survival of Bacula as Free Software, as well as to ensure that the project is less (no longer) dependent on one person (me). Rest assured, this does not at all mean that I envision decreasing my participation with the project. When you investigated this previously there was some trouble contacting the FSF Europe. I take it you have now been in contact with them and they can at least help determine which Swiss structure is better for a structure that is going to own copyrights, yes? I am in total agreement with your reasoning, but the copyright ownership issues frighten me. Being a US citizen, I am conditioned to think of this as a major legal issue requiring legal council. If I remember right, I already answered this. Best regards, Kern - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)
Hello Arno, Thanks for your comments. Please see below for my responses: On Saturday 04 November 2006 22:42, Arno Lehmann wrote: Hi, On 11/4/2006 1:46 PM, Kern Sibbald wrote: Hello, 1 November 2006 This contents of this email is for discussion on the Bacula email list, but not yet a topic for publication. Quite hard, regarding the number of list readers and open mailing list archives. But then, this is not really vital, and we're only needing confidentiality for a few weeks... Yes, this is not a secret list so the information will go out, but hopefully no one will post it to a public news site until after their announcement (in the next week if I am not mistaken). As you are probably aware, I am planning certain reorganizations of the Bacula project for a number of reasons. ... Yes. Several months ago, I met with Georg Greve, the President of the Free Software Foundation Europe (FSFE). I learned that he was in the process of creating the FSFE Freedom Task Force to work with projects that would like to enter into a fiduciary license agreement with the FSFE with the objective to offload the adminstrative (legal) needs of the project to the FSFE while keeping the project adminstration unchanged. The Freedom Task Force has been in operation since the beginning of October with Shane Coughlan heading it up. Probably the best explaination of their policy as it relates to Bacula is described in the FSFE Fiduciary Licensing Policy, which I have attached to this email in pdf format. A short summary of what I am proposing is: 1. Transfer the Bacula copyright to the FSFE. 2. There will be no change in the license, which is defined in the LICENSE file -- only the copyright holder will be changed. 3. FSFE will look after the legal matters of maintaining and, if necessary, defending the license. 4. Aside from the copyright assignments for important contributions, there will be no other changes to the project resulting from the copyright transfer. 5. The final transfer of the copyright will occur on or shortly after the 15th of November and will apply to the next released version. 6. The official announcement of the formation of the FSFE Freedom Task Force, and that Bacula will particpate in their Fiduciary Licensing will be made at the end of November. Sounds reasonable. I understand that this is about what you - and probably many others - want, and it keeps you from setting op an appropriate organization yourself. The FSFE gets their project going with a renownded open-source project. Looks like a win-win situation :-) Yes, that is how I see it too. My belief is that this copyright transfer will be beneficial to the project in many respects: assure that the source remains Free Software, ensure that the source is not tied to any single person, off load most of the legal tasks, That last one is quite important to me. ... If any of you have concerns, comments, or questions, please do not hesitate to voice them now, either on the Bacula email lists or directly to me. I always have a hard time working through this (semi-)legal stuff, so I guess others may find important points. One regulation I don't especialy like, though, is the reference to the GPL in the current version. While I personally like the GPL V. 2, I see some possible problems with the upcoming, new version. Admittedly, I didn't follow the discussion very close, but as far as I understand there are some things planned I don't think right. For that reason I would prefer having Bacula under a GPL verson 2. YMMV, obviously. The LICENSE will not be changed, only the copyright holder, so Bacula will continue to be distributed under GPL version 2 + a few additions that are specified in the LICENSE file. When GPL version 3 is released, we'll take a look at whether or not we want to use it (with input from Bacula users, of course). I will take all comments and concerns into consideration and attempt to answer all the questions. Since I am on vacation and my Internet access is very limited, some or all my responses may be delayed until after my return on the 10th of November. Well, enjoy the remains of your holidays! Thanks. I enjoyed them a lot. I'm back home, but will need a few days to recuperate and re-adjust to the cool weather ... :-) - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Re: [Bacula-users] File Table entries not pruned
On Wednesday 25 October 2006 23:00, Christoph Haas wrote: On Wednesday 25 October 2006 22:52, Martin Simmons wrote: On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 20:04:27 +0200, Christoph Haas said: On Wednesday 25 October 2006 15:15, Wolfgang Powisch (privat) wrote: My Setup: bacula-1.38.8 Catalog on PostgreSQL 8.0 Server File Storage I'm seeing my Catalog Database getting larger and larger. the file table has 45 million records now and uses over 10GB on disk. Doing a list jobtotals shows only about 5 million files total. (this looks much more realistic than 45millions) It seems, that for some reason, file entries (and maybe others too) are not pruned from the catalog. Calling prune files client=xxx gives a No files to prune. As I've seen in the database, there are records for Clients, which are no more in the configuration of bacula-dir. Is it possible, either from bconsole or with some great SQL query, to make some sort of database cleanup and delete such unused entries from catalog ? Use the dbcheck utility to wipe off orphaned entries. Example on Debian for a possible crontab entry: 3 4 * * * /usr/sbin/dbcheck -b -f -c /etc/bacula/bacula-dir.conf By the way... the documentation reads that orphaned entries are removed automatically. That's not true with at least 1.38.9 here. 'dbcheck' finds orphaned entries every night. Who's fault is that? Orphaned records are never removed automatically. Let me quote http://bacula.org/rel-manual/Volume_Utility_Tools.html#SECTION0003612000 Normally dbcheck should never need to be run, but if Bacula has crashed or you have a lot of Clients, Pools, or Jobs that you have removed, it could be useful. Actually I haven't changed my config in months. And after each full backup I can run dbcheck and it will remove a few ten thousand File entries. So I suspected that some part of Bacula misses to remove old database rows. And it didn't crash either. The storage daemon dies from time to time though. But that should keep altering the database directly anyway. What kind of records is this wiping every night? All orphaned ones. Whatever that means exactly. In general there shouldn't be any orphaned file records because pruning should remove the file records before removing any job records. I hoped so, too, but the otherwise endlessly growing size of my database is telling me differently. If your database is continuously growing, there is some problem. On the two separate systems that I run, the database size (MySQL and SQLite) has remained constant for years. Reasons a database may grow: - the database will continue to grow until the longest retention period is reached, then after a short time, it should stabilize and not grow any more. - failed jobs - incorrectly configured retention periods (or very long ones) - lots of temporary filenames on your system (created for short period, backed up, then deleted). - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Multiple backups for a client
On Monday 30 October 2006 15:23, le dahut wrote: Hello, How can I avoid Bacula launching a second backup while the first one isn't finished ? This phenomenon occurred last WE with summer/winter time switching, a backup was scheduled for 2:00 am and wasn't finished at 3:00 am so when the clock came back to 2:00 a second backup was launched ... Schedule your backups outside of the hour in which the time shift occurs. If the time shift is occurring at 3:00 am, then schedule your jobs to start at 1:55 am. What version of Bacula are you using? - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] File Daemon Encryption Maturity
On Tuesday 31 October 2006 12:58, Mathew Brown wrote: Hi, I'd read several times that the FD encryption feature was not yet stable but this was several months ago. Would you now consider it stable enough for use in production environments? Thanks for your help. It is ready for testing (BETA released), but not recommended for production use until it is officially released (unless you are an experienced Bacula user who knows how to cover his bases and can deal with bugs ...). - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] differential backups not reqiered?
On Friday 03 November 2006 11:27, Jaap Stolk wrote: On 11/3/06, Jaap Stolk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering if i could do without the differential backups altogether ? (in reply to my own post) I did some more reading and found that the differential backup only looks at the file date/time, exactly like the incremental backup. so this is no reason to use a differential backup. Except that doing Differential backups allows you to restore faster and to recycle your Incremental backups faster. The other thing is a differential backup would reduce the number of incremental backups i need to scan when restoring files, but since i backup to a file this doesn't involve manual tape changes, so this is also not a problem in my case. I think i can detect files that are missed in the incremental backup (because of an old file timestamp) using a verify job, and either manual or automatically touch these files, so they will be backed up in the next incremental backup. That's an interesting idea ... so i have no further questions, unless someone sees a bog problem in my setup. Kind regards, Jaap Stolk - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users