Re: [Bacula-users] RHEL6 (Bacula 5.0.0) and 'Begin pruning Jobs older than 41 years etc.'
On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 17:45:42 +0100, Martin Simmons mar...@lispworks.com wrote: On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 16:14:09 +0100, Foo said: I understand this is a known bug but has not been fixed in the RHEL6 packaged 5.0.0 version of Bacula yet (see http://www.mail-archive.com/bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net/msg39554.html). It is cosmetic. Good to hear, thanks! -- Colocation vs. Managed Hosting A question and answer guide to determining the best fit for your organization - today and in the future. http://p.sf.net/sfu/internap-sfd2d ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
[Bacula-users] RHEL6 (Bacula 5.0.0) and 'Begin pruning Jobs older than 41 years etc.'
Hi, I understand this is a known bug but has not been fixed in the RHEL6 packaged 5.0.0 version of Bacula yet (see http://www.mail-archive.com/bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net/msg39554.html). We're actually running a newer version (5.0.3) on Debian without this issue but management has decided to consolidate on Red Hat.. So is this cosmetic or should I look at installing from source or downloading third party (unsupported by RH) packages with newer versions and/or prune manually + dbcheck to trim the database while waiting for RH to update the version? (which might be in another 5 years..) -- Colocation vs. Managed Hosting A question and answer guide to determining the best fit for your organization - today and in the future. http://p.sf.net/sfu/internap-sfd2d ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Windows Backup Junction Point / Filesystem Question
On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 12:12:41 +0100, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: If not, what is the correct procedure to do this within Windows? How do you list the complete filesystem so that everything shows, are there specialist tools for this? (it appears to be impossible to access some dirs even if using console/administrator and explorer/DOS show a different view of the fs) http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896768 Thanks, but this does not explain what Bacula (or other packages) can do about backing up and particularly restoring junctions/reparse points. Are you supposed to dump a listing before a backup and recreate them by hand on a restore? I wonder if that is even possible for some protected areas. -- The modern datacenter depends on network connectivity to access resources and provide services. The best practices for maximizing a physical server's connectivity to a physical network are well understood - see how these rules translate into the virtual world? http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnlfb ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Windows Backup Junction Point / Filesystem Question
On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 18:24:10 +0100, John Drescher dresche...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Randy Katz rk...@simplicityhosting.com wrote: On 1/31/2011 9:08 AM, John Drescher wrote: John, thanks, but this was already addressed to the list, using the onefs option to yes takes care of the issue, and no, there is no other target drive other then C:. My point is no the onefs option does not properly fix the issue. If the target of the junction is on C: you do NOT want to set onefs=no because the data in the junction will be backed up twice then. Sorry, onefs=no is what I meant. This is generally still the wrong thing to do. Its better to include the target of the junction in the fileset instead of backing up through the juction but I guess it would work. This will cause you problems on disaster recovery because the junction will not automatically remade. If you use this method you will have to recreate the junctions before the restore instead of recreating junctions after with the onefs=yes method. I couldn't find this in the manual, but is it even possible to backup/restore a Windows junction point? I.e. the junction point itself, not the data it points to. If not, what is the correct procedure to do this within Windows? How do you list the complete filesystem so that everything shows, are there specialist tools for this? (it appears to be impossible to access some dirs even if using console/administrator and explorer/DOS show a different view of the fs) Or are you supposed to be resigned to using the built-in full image (i.e. space wasting) backup in W2K8? How do other backup solutions handle this? -- Special Offer-- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE (a $49 USD value)! Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better price-free! Download using promo code Free_Logger_4_Dev2Dev. Offer expires February 28th, so secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY! http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsight-sfd2d ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Tuning Bacula
On Mon, 04 Oct 2010 19:37:32 +0200, Tim Gustafson t...@soe.ucsc.edu wrote: However, we're getting pretty pitiful throughput numbers. When I scp a file from my workstation to the Bacula server, I get something like 40MB/s (320Mb/s). When Bacula runs, we're lucky to get 20MB/s (160Mb/s), and we often get numbers closer to 10MB/s (80Mb/s). Are you scp-ing one large file to establish base speed? Your average server's filesystem seldom allows 40 MB/s sustained because it often consists of many thousands of small and often fragmented files. Over time W2k3 suffers most from this, a defrag run or two will often yield the biggest speed increase of them all. Linux with ext3 is much more robust in this respect, although some new W2k8 servers are doing pretty well here so far. As long as you are using something like an average 7200 rpm 2 disk RAID1 setup speed will also degrade very quickly if a few other read/write actions are taking place at the same time simply due to seeking. The only solution for that is to move the main bottlenecks to memory and/or use SSDs. For ext3/4 you might also want to try the noatime mount option in /etc/fstab. Lastly, if you depend on every server doing high speeds it will be an expensive exercise, you should concentrate on saturating the backup storage by running more than one job at the same time. -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/beautyoftheweb ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula 5.0.2, backup works but errors out on the 'finishing touch' after a long time, network issue?
On Wed, 19 May 2010 15:00:22 +0200, Foo bfo...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: On Wed, 19 May 2010 12:16:40 +0200, francisco javier funes nieto esen...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/5/19 Foo bfo...@yahoo.co.uk: May 18 17:17:49 DIRHOSTNAME bacula-sd: bsock.c:488 Packet size too big from client:1.2.3.4:36643. Terminating connection. There is some kind of tunnel (vpn, eoip, pppoe) between machines or different MTU in the routed interfaces of the gateway? The two servers are on a different subnet with a Juniper firewall in between that is currently set to allow all TCP and ICMP traffic through in both directions. There is no tunnel or encapsulation of any kind that I know of. What makes me wonder is why everything else seems to work perfectly, is Bacula doing something different at the very end of the backup? And if so, since one of the backups *did* succeed, whatever it is doing differently is not different enough every time. The firewall is set to: admin mtu 0, operating mtu 1500, default mtu 1500 The W2K8 servers have teamed ports on Intel Gigabit VT quad port server adapters, jumbo frames are off, don't see any pertinent power savings options (servers don't go into sleep mode for example). -- ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula 5.0.2, backup works but errors out on the 'finishing touch' after a long time, network issue?
On Tue, 18 May 2010 18:38:29 +0200, Foo bfo...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: 18-May 18:04 DIRHOSTNAME-dir JobId 32487: Fatal error: Network error with FD during Backup: ERR=Connection reset by peer 18-May 18:04 DIRHOSTNAME-dir JobId 32487: Fatal error: No Job status returned from FD. Where the manually run jobs both failed, one of the scheduled nightly jobs succeeded, the other failed in a similar fashion (same error after 2+ hours). The one that succeeded took 32 mins 52 secs at 6.3 MB/s which is slightly faster than the manuals so could this be some timeout limit that the other one ran into and not this one? What do you do in such a case, add a heartbeat? Is this a networking issue where some I'm done packet was lost/held up? If so, does this go to another port (I don't think so), or does it use a special protocol/form so a specific network issue may block that but not everything else? Additionally, I got the following error message in mail (via logcheck): May 18 17:17:49 DIRHOSTNAME bacula-sd: bsock.c:488 Packet size too big from client:1.2.3.4:36643. Terminating connection. Anyone any ideas what this means? -- ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula 5.0.2, backup works but errors out on the 'finishing touch' after a long time, network issue?
On Wed, 19 May 2010 12:16:40 +0200, francisco javier funes nieto esen...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/5/19 Foo bfo...@yahoo.co.uk: May 18 17:17:49 DIRHOSTNAME bacula-sd: bsock.c:488 Packet size too big from client:1.2.3.4:36643. Terminating connection. There is some kind of tunnel (vpn, eoip, pppoe) between machines or different MTU in the routed interfaces of the gateway? The two servers are on a different subnet with a Juniper firewall in between that is currently set to allow all TCP and ICMP traffic through in both directions. There is no tunnel or encapsulation of any kind that I know of. What makes me wonder is why everything else seems to work perfectly, is Bacula doing something different at the very end of the backup? And if so, since one of the backups *did* succeed, whatever it is doing differently is not different enough every time. -- ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
[Bacula-users] Bacula 5.0.2, backup works but errors out on the 'finishing touch' after a long time, network issue?
Hi, I have a couple of (W2K8) servers on a different subnet, network config is correct as far as I can see (routes/gateways added on both subnets, can ping both ways, telnet into 9102 on client from director/sd, telnet into 9103 on sd/dir machine from clients, status client works from bconsole). The backup commences and the volume files start getting written, bconsole however reports only up to the following lines: 18-May 16:38 DIRHOSTNAME-sd JobId 32487: Job write elapsed time = 00:37:39, Transfer rate = 5.191 M Bytes/second 18-May 16:40 DIRHOSTNAME-sd JobId 32486: Job write elapsed time = 00:39:38, Transfer rate = 5.241 M Bytes/second Normally you get a bunch of VSS lines after that and the summary with an OK. The /var/working/bacula/log file does not contain the above two lines, only a bunch of the intermediate failures on junction points, in fact it freezes in mid line at some point (first other line continues there without newline in between, other director output continues fine afterwards. status dir reports: Running Jobs: Console connected at 18-May-10 17:41 JobId Level Name Status == 32486 FullHOSTNAME1.2010-05-18_16.00.56_18 is running 32487 FullHOSTNAME2.2010-05-18_16.01.03_19 is running The resource monitor on the hosts does not report network activity (i.e. an open connection) to the sd/dir, except when I do a status client on it (which works), and it seems like the (5.0.2) client thinks it has successfully finished the job: *st client=HOSTNAME1-fd Connecting to Client HOSTNAME1-fd at 1.2.3.4:9102 HOSTNAME1-fd Version: 5.0.2 (28 April 2010) VSS Linux Cross-compile Win64 Daemon started 18-May-10 15:54, 1 Job run since started. Heap: heap=0 smbytes=131,202 max_bytes=292,179 bufs=89 max_bufs=274 Sizeof: boffset_t=8 size_t=8 debug=0 trace=1 Running Jobs: Director connected at: 18-May-10 17:45 No Jobs running. Terminated Jobs: JobId LevelFiles Bytes Status FinishedName == 32486 Full 86,47012.44 G OK 18-May-10 16:40 HOSTNAME1 * HOSTNAME2 produces similar output. Somewhat later they error out: 18-May 18:04 DIRHOSTNAME-dir JobId 32487: Fatal error: Network error with FD during Backup: ERR=Connection reset by peer 18-May 18:04 DIRHOSTNAME-dir JobId 32487: Fatal error: No Job status returned from FD. 18-May 18:04 DIRHOSTNAME-dir JobId 32487: Error: Bacula DIRHOSTNAME-dir 5.0.2 (28Apr10): 18-May-2010 18:04:13 Build OS: i686-pc-linux-gnu debian 5.0.4 JobId: 32487 Job:HOSTNAME2.2010-05-18_16.01.03_19 Backup Level: Full (upgraded from Incremental) Client: HOSTNAME2-fd 5.0.2 (28Apr10) Linux,Cross-compile,Win64 FileSet:Windows HOSTNAME2 set 2010-05-18 16:01:03 Pool: Pool_HOSTNAME2 (From Job resource) Catalog:MyCatalog (From Client resource) Storage:HOSTNAME2_storage (From Job resource) Scheduled time: 18-May-2010 16:01:01 Start time: 18-May-2010 16:01:05 End time: 18-May-2010 18:04:13 Elapsed time: 2 hours 3 mins 8 secs Priority: 10 FD Files Written: 0 SD Files Written: 85,253 FD Bytes Written: 0 (0 B) SD Bytes Written: 11,726,994,434 (11.72 GB) Rate: 0.0 KB/s Software Compression: None VSS:no Encryption: no Accurate: no Volume name(s): Vol_HOSTNAME2_0001 Volume Session Id: 9 Volume Session Time:1274189949 Last Volume Bytes: 11,738,369,181 (11.73 GB) Non-fatal FD errors:0 SD Errors: 0 FD termination status: Error SD termination status: OK Termination:*** Backup Error *** Same for HOSTNAME1 (interestingly, it came right after HOSTNAME2, the order reversed only due to timing apparently, but they fail at exactly the same moment (18:04)): 18-May 18:04 DIRHOSTNAME-dir JobId 32486: Fatal error: Network error with FD during Backup: ERR=Connection reset by peer 18-May 18:04 DIRHOSTNAME-dir JobId 32486: Fatal error: No Job status returned from FD. 18-May 18:04 DIRHOSTNAME-dir JobId 32486: Error: Bacula DIRHOSTNAME-dir 5.0.2 (28Apr10): 18-May-2010 18:04:31 Build OS: i686-pc-linux-gnu debian 5.0.4 JobId: 32486 Job:HOSTNAME1.2010-05-18_16.00.56_18 Backup Level: Full (upgraded from Incremental) Client: HOSTNAME1-fd 5.0.2 (28Apr10) Linux,Cross-compile,Win64 FileSet:Windows HOSTNAME1 set 2010-05-18 16:00:56 Pool: Pool_HOSTNAME1 (From Job resource) Catalog:
Re: [Bacula-users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 2008/2008r2 Server backup
On Wed, 12 May 2010 13:04:20 +0200, Kevin Keane subscript...@kkeane.com wrote: No, they don't. Microsoft basically takes a very sensible position, in my mind: we only provide a basic tool. If you don't like it, you can get third-party tools. Think of Windows Backup (or NTBackup) as the backup equivalent of Notepad. In my eyes this boils down to a powergrab where functionality is reduced in order to displace third parties. Like others I want a cross platform, flexible solution, but more importantly there are design, cost and security implications. For a registry backup with ntbackup there is no change needed, using wbadmin requires an infrastructure change: either adding localized storage (for keeping one full + incrementals), inefficiently expanding storage on the Bacula end (for cycling full backups) or giving machines access to the Bacula back end. These have cost, (network) design and security implications, any one of which will prohibit using wbadmin here. -- ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 2008/2008r2 Server backup
On Tue, 11 May 2010 15:59:32 +0200, Koldo Santisteban ksantiste...@gmail.com wrote: Foo, could you explain wich product is ADS?? is open source? It stands for Automated Desployment Service (and by now has been replaced by WDS, where W=Windows), you should be able to download it somewhere off the M$ site. It's not open source of course but was free to download/use, last I heard. There are probably other solutions, this was implemented by a Windows oriented colleague so I don't know that much about it. It basically uses a DHCP server and PXE for an initial loader which then downloads pre-prepared images that can be scripted for various installations (so you might have a base W2K3 install which asks whether you want to make it a db or webserver). -- ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Windows 2008/2008r2 Server backup
On Wed, 12 May 2010 06:51:42 +0200, Kevin Keane subscript...@kkeane.com wrote: The system state in Windows 2008 is really the whole C: drive plus a little extra information (I assume, boot sectors or the like). Do you know if they have a replacement for ntbackup or a similar tool that does the same thing? I.e. only back up registries and other files that Bacula has problems with? -- ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Database version problems caused Ubuntu 10.04 upgrade to abort
On Wed, 12 May 2010 00:15:53 +0200, David Edwards davidaedwa...@optusnet.com.au wrote: Hi. I ran the Ubuntu 10.04 upgrade the other day (from 9.10) and it fell over at the bacula update stage. It was complaining about the database. So I'm guessing the DB upgrade hasn't worked. I've downloaded the 3.0.3 and 5.0.1 gzip files and extracted the updatedb directories. I can see lots of scripts to update the DB. My questions are 1. Do I need to update the DB from v10 to v11 before updating to v12? Probably a good idea. I just did the same, went from 2.4.3 to 3.0.3, then to 5.0.2. Used ./configure + options, make, src/cats/update_mysql_tables, make install, then went on to next version and did the same (ran with 3.0.3 for a few days to check). The first make will compile stuff so you need a compiler, but it will also fill in the .in templates with your setup stuff. For your situation it's probably best if you don't run make install, just configure, make and the table update script from 3.0.3, then do the same with 5.0.2, then use aptitude to install the official package. The various generic update scripts check what db you have, I just ran the mysql one directly. You may need to run the scripts as root or add your db pass somewhere (maybe as a command line argument), not sure about that. -- ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
[Bacula-users] Mail error: bsmtp cannot find libbac-5.0.1.so after upgrade from 3.0.3 to 5.0.2
Just a FYI if someone else runs into this: after upgrading from 2.4.3 to 3.0.3 and then to 5.0.2 I'm getting (ironically) the following mail from logcheck: May 12 11:45:10 HOSTNAME bacula-dir: 12-May 11:45 Message delivery ERROR: Mail prog: /sbin/bsmtp: error while loading shared libraries: libbac-5.0.1.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory May 12 11:45:10 HOSTNAME bacula-dir: 12-May 11:45 Message delivery ERROR: Mail program terminated in error. CMD=/sbin/bsmtp -h mailgw -f 'Bacula bacula-...@domain' -s Bacula: Backup OK of OTHERHOST-fd Incremental f...@domain ERR=Child exited with code 127 But it does exist: -rwxr-x--- 1 root root 1010330 2010-05-12 11:11 /usr/lib/libbac-5.0.1.so The fix was to do a chown root:bacula on /usr/lib/libbac* The bacula group has the bacula-dir and -sd users in it here, as well as some people who need to run bconsole (so executables like /sbin/bconsole are all also root:bacula) Not sure if this is handled correctly by packaging, I used source for all versions so far. -- ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Windows 2008/2008r2 Server backup
On Tue, 11 May 2010 01:51:52 +0200, James Harper james.har...@bendigoit.com.au wrote: With full VSS support, VSS defines the files that make up the system state backup - it's a flag on the writer. Bacula handles junction points perfectly. Does this also go for W2K3 now, i.e. is this a feature of Bacula 5.x, or of W2K8? At least I haven't succeeded in backing up junction points properly under W2K3 yet (e.g. .net dirs), they are backed up as physical files and on a restore replace junction points (and therefore probably break stuff on an update). My understanding so far was that it's best to manually reinstall .net (and any other similar stuff) for this reason. -- ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 2008/2008r2 Server backup
On Tue, 11 May 2010 10:11:17 +0200, Henrik Johansen hen...@scannet.dk wrote: If you are storing your system state backup on C you'll need to apply the reg fix as pointed out in http://support.microsoft.com/kb/944530 first. Thanks for the fix, but even with that: wbadmin START BACKUP -backupTarget:D: -systemState -exclude:C:,D: -include:d:\temp.txt .. The backup storage location is invalid. You cannot use a volume that is included in the backup as a storage location. (I was trying to work around not being able to exclude the C: and D: volumes, temp.txt is a dummy file) If I just use: wbadmin START SYSTEMSTATEBACKUP -backupTarget:D: .. This will back up the system state from volume(s) System Reserved (100.00 MB),Local Disk(C:),Local Disk(D:) to D:. And this results in 6+ GB of data in 2 small and 1 large .vhd file. Astonishingly, the logfile does not actually contain any registry hive that I can see (e.g. ntuser.dat files). Apparently the default systembackup job includes *all* local volumes and *excludes* what it's supposed to backup. #...@$# Microsoft... Does anyone know how to fix this mess? Can you simply forget about wbadmin and have Bacula-fd back up live registry hives (because it should be VSS aware right?) - and restore them when needed? -- ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Windows 2008/2008r2 Server backup
On Tue, 11 May 2010 14:30:09 +0200, Martin Simmons mar...@lispworks.com wrote: You might want to consider having two backups, for different purposes. Use a Windows full backup for disaster recovery and Full+Incremental Bacula backups for per-file recovery. We already have ADS for disaster recovery for W2K3, if it also supports W2K8 it would be a better idea. Or just plain dd as far as I'm concerned :) The point is to integrate this into the regular Bacula framework and schedules, so I either need something like ntbackup which extends Bacula in just the right way or something that can completely replace it. If it's just not possible for W2K8 maybe a different backup product is a better solution. -- ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] [Bulk] Re: Windows registry restore possible?
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 06:49:06 +0200, Craig Ringer cr...@postnewspapers.com.au wrote: Win7 and win2k8 offer an excellent built-in image backup system that makes proper use of VSS to get a consistent copy, We have some W2K8 servers running here but not backing them up yet (just upgraded Bacula from 2.4.3 to 3.0.3, clients still on 2.4.4) so no experience with them in that respect. Under W2K3 I use ntbackup to back up the registry, on W2K8 I played around with wbadmin but can't get it to do the same as this: ClientRunBeforeJob = if [%l]==[Full] (ntbackup backup systemstate /F c:\\systemstate.bkf) ClientRunAfterJob = del c:\\systemstate.bkf ClientRunAfterJob = del \c:\\Documents and Settings\\Default User\\Local Settings\\Application Data\\Microsoft\\Windows NT\\NTBackup\\data\\backup*.log\ Are you also talking about wbadmin and if so what am I missing? Issues with wbadmin I have are: 1) on the command line I tried to make it back up to a local device which it refuses so I need to specify a share on another machine, then copy back the backup before letting Bacula at it 2) thinking I may need to define a schedule first (so it does not include local drives and therefore can back up to a local drive which is now not included in the backup), in the GUI I selected 'system state' only but this seems to include all files instead of just necessary system files/registry hives (I canceled while it was still bust racking up more than 6 files). -- ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Upgrade path from 2.4.x to 5.0.x
On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 15:25:57 +0200, Martin Simmons mar...@lispworks.com wrote: On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 14:15:35 +0200, Foo said: Is Bacula 2.4.4 dir/sd compatible with a newer database layout (11, 12, whatever?) or do I need to update the dir/sd executables at the same time? They are incompatible so you must do it at the same time. I suggest making a dump of the database first, because there is no way to undo the update scripts. Thanks, upgraded database to version 11 and dir/sd/fd 2.4.3 on server to 3.0.3, left other clients on 2.4.4, so far everything working fine. Will probably do the same to 5.0.2 next week and then look at upgrading clients. I think you need to run configure with the appropriate args, rather than make. It might be easier to do it by hand, replacing @SQL_BINDIR@ and @db_name@ by the appropriate values (something like /usr/bin and bacula). configure turned out to be easier :) As before with 2.4.3 I just can't get readline instead of conio compiled into bconsole, but it's not a huge loss. -8- On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 15:57:44 +0200, Matija Nalis mnalis+bac...@carnet.hr wrote: The issue is in MySQL, as its algorithm sometimes chooses terribly wrong index, so SELECT times go up easily from 5 minutes to more than 20 hours. That would not be very nice in the middle of an emergency when it's needed most urgently. Is there a standardized way to crossgrade to postgres without losing all your current backups? I need to upgrade since staying with 3.x would mean that new installations with newer clients in their repos would need to be downgraded and that outside their regular packaging systems too. I suppose you would need to install the pgsql packages, configure and make Bacula for postgres and run some convert db script before using make install? -- ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] [Bulk] Re: Windows registry restore possible?
On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 07:07:43 +0200, Thomas Mueller tho...@chaschperli.ch wrote: Am Tue, 27 Apr 2010 12:50:30 -0400 schrieb jdb: Is it possible to restore just the registry without restoring the entire backup? I have the VSS enabled in the Bacula config, [..] VSS does provide a consistent snapshot. IMHO the VSS Writer loglines just mean that the Service xyz was informed about a snapshot that will happen so that Service xyz can get into a consitent state on disk. this does not mean that anything is written an tape/volume. Right, for W2K3 use ntbackup (heard it was not in W2K8 anymore, anyone know the replacement?) to back up the system state, which should include registry files. For this I added in my job definitions: ClientRunBeforeJob = if [%l]==[Full] (ntbackup backup systemstate /F c:\\systemstate.bkf) ClientRunAfterJob = del c:\\systemstate.bkf ClientRunAfterJob = del \c:\\Documents and Settings\\Default User\\Local Settings\\Application Data\\Microsoft\\Windows NT\\NTBackup\\data\\backup*.log\ This runs the commands on the server and does a compare, if backup level is full then does an ntbackup (so not on 'incremental==full' etc.) and deletes the temp files afterward (systemstate is overwritten but it takes up space, logs keep piling up otherwise). You need to have a few hundred MB free on C: for the systemstate.bkf file and the full backups take a few minutes longer. -- ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Upgrade path from 2.4.x to 5.0.x
On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 20:06:43 +0200, Martin Simmons mar...@lispworks.com wrote: I suggest checking your current db version by select * from version; Version 10. Is Bacula 2.4.4 dir/sd compatible with a newer database layout (11, 12, whatever?) or do I need to update the dir/sd executables at the same time? and then running the appropriate scripts from the updatedb directory of the source code (not the compiled packages) and then the one from 5.0.1 (which is not the updatedb directory). I see some .in files which look like template scripts, I presume I need to 'make' before these are filled in? --8-- On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 15:57:53 +0200, Matija Nalis mnalis+bac...@carnet.hr wrote: Also, can I expect problems if I added some extra indexes for speed and whatever tables/indexes were added by webacula? yes, you can expect problems :) For example, http://wiki.bacula.org/doku.php?id=faq#restore_takes_a_long_time_to_retrieve_sql_results_from_mysql_catalog http://wiki.bacula.org/doku.php?id=faq#jobs_with_accurate_filesets_take_forever_deprecated http://bugs.bacula.org/view.php?id=1472 Thanks, I'll see what I can remove. Can't access the last link though. The indexes did help a lot with dbcheck though, without them it takes days to complete instead of minutes, will this speed up in 3.x/5.x or has dbcheck been updated, is it not necessary anymore, or is this something that needs to be fixed in a future release? I have the following indexes on File currently: Non_unique Seq_in_index || Key_name | | | Column_name | Cardinality |++ | +-+ 0| PRIMARY| 1 | FileId | 6387461 1| JobId | 1 | JobId |2750 1| JobId | 2 | PathId | 638746 1| JobId | 3 | FilenameId | 6387461 1| File_JobId_idx | 1 | JobId |2750 1| File_PathId_idx| 1 | PathId | 206047 1| File_FilenameId_idx| 1 | FilenameId | 912494 1| File_FilenameId_PathId_idx | 1 | FilenameId | 912494 1| File_FilenameId_PathId_idx | 2 | PathId | 2129153 Collation are all A, Sub_part, Packed are all NULL, Null and Comment are all empty, Index_type is all BTREE Which of these can be deleted exactly? (and how, I'm not a DBA :) -- ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
[Bacula-users] Upgrade path from 2.4.x to 5.0.x
Hi, which MySQL update scripts from which archives do I need to run to go from 2.4.4 to 5.0.1, can I skip minor revisions and just run the ones from 3.0.3 and 5.0.1 or are there other db changes between say 3.0.0 and 3.0.3a? Also, can I expect problems if I added some extra indexes for speed and whatever tables/indexes were added by webacula? BTW, maybe I missed something, but whatever happened to 4.x? -- ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Windows restore on different drive
On Wed, 27 May 2009 02:24:00 +0200, James Harper james.har...@bendigoit.com.au wrote: I still haven't found a way to tell bacula to restore on a partition different than C: on windows fd. Most of my customers have a smaller C: containing the system, and a second drive to hold big data, so this becomes a trouble when I have to restore a big amount of data. How should I write the where during restore to let it restore on D:\tmp\bacula-restore? Can't you just set the 'where' to 'D:\tmp\bacula-restore' when you do the restore? The 'where' functionality of restore is somewhat broken, because it simply prepends the original path instead of (partially) replacing it. - if you change 'where' to '/' (or have this as the default), the restore will overwrite the original. - if you don't have '/' as default and don't change 'where', 'c:/foo/bar.txt' from a Windows client may end up restored in a location like 'C:\mnt\nas\bacula\restores\c\foo\bar.txt'. To work around this you need separate restore stanzas for each client. - the closest you can get to restoring in an another location is if you change 'where' to e.g. '/tmp' or 'd:/', in which case your '/foo/bar.txt' or 'c:/foo/bar.txt' backups will end up as '/tmp/foo/bar.txt' or 'D:\c\foo\bar.txt' restores, respectively. Bacula will under no circumstance replace the original path, so even 'd:/foo/bar.txt' will end up as 'D:\d\foo\bar.txt'. -- OpenSolaris 2009.06 is a cutting edge operating system for enterprises looking to deploy the next generation of Solaris that includes the latest innovations from Sun and the OpenSource community. Download a copy and enjoy capabilities such as Networking, Storage and Virtualization. Go to: http://p.sf.net/sfu/opensolaris-get ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] automating windows client installs
On Wed, 27 May 2009 23:55:47 +0200, Jayson Broughton jbrough...@truecos.com wrote: Surely there is an easier way to automate installs than to create an NSIS file from scratch. What I eventually did: - got Sysinternals' (now Microsoft) psexec utility from http://download.sysinternals.com/Files/PsTools.zip - copy psexec, the Bacula client installer and a textfile containing one server per line to a central location on the network - use 'psexec.exe @servers.txt -c winbacula-2.4.4.exe /S' to silently install. - 'psexec.exe @servers.txt -c sc failure Bacula-fd reset= 3600 actions= restart/5000/restart/5000/restart/5000' (set FD service to restart automatically in case of problems). - bash script mounting admin shares + sed the config files into shape (passwords, client names, IP addresses etc.) - start the service on each server with 'psexec @servers.txt sc start Bacula-fd' Do the psexec stuff in a DOS box to see the output, not all services may start correctly immediately etc. -- OpenSolaris 2009.06 is a cutting edge operating system for enterprises looking to deploy the next generation of Solaris that includes the latest innovations from Sun and the OpenSource community. Download a copy and enjoy capabilities such as Networking, Storage and Virtualization. Go to: http://p.sf.net/sfu/opensolaris-get ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Reset webacula password
On Mon, 18 May 2009 18:19:48 +0200, Foo bfo...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 12 May 2009 06:25:55 +0200, Hafiz Rozali tridi...@yahoo.com wrote: Anybody know how to reset webacula password. Find the .htaccess password file, look for a line like 'AuthUserFile /etc/apache2/lalala' in your webserver config (e.g. /etc/apache2/conf.d/webacula). Then put a new password in it with 'htpasswd /etc/apache2/lalala'. This will of course overwrite the old password. Sorry, this should of course be 'htpassword /etc/apache2/lalala webacula'. -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Looking for client removal documentation
On Mon, 18 May 2009 17:05:05 +0200, Frank Altpeter frank.altpe...@gmail.com wrote: Any pointer on how to really completely remove a client would be very appreciated ... See the purge and delete console commands in the manual. I've used them like this: - purge volumes first (this purges filenames etc., unlike 'prune' regardless of retention times) - delete volumes (from bconsole, not physically yet) - delete the pool they belong to if no other volumes use the same pool (if you have separate pools for every client for example) - reload Bacula director config in which client/device/fileset/job/pool/schedule/storage stanzas relating to the client are deleted. This needs to be done right away, e.g. 'status dir' in the meantime may readd the pool you just deleted because it's still in the config. - edit bacula-sd.conf to remove the client, bacula-ctl-sd restart - use dbcheck to get rid of the last remnants (dangling paths and the like) - physically delete volume files or tape -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Reset webacula password
On Tue, 12 May 2009 06:25:55 +0200, Hafiz Rozali tridi...@yahoo.com wrote: Anybody know how to reset webacula password. Find the .htaccess password file, look for a line like 'AuthUserFile /etc/apache2/lalala' in your webserver config (e.g. /etc/apache2/conf.d/webacula). Then put a new password in it with 'htpasswd /etc/apache2/lalala'. This will of course overwrite the old password. -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] [Bulk] Re: thannyd earthlink.net
On Tue, 07 Apr 2009 22:19:54 +0200, Dan Langille d...@langille.org wrote: Regardless of the personal religious views, I wish to point out this user-configurable mailing list option: ### Avoid duplicate copies of messages? When you are listed explicitly in the To: or Cc: headers of a list message, you can opt to not receive another copy from the mailing list. Select Yes to avoid receiving copies from the mailing list; select No to receive copies. This is useful to a degree (and set to yes by default), but the mail sent privately will be different as far as filtering is concerned (i.e. arrive in a different mailbox) and so require extra effort on the recipient's part. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Howto recover from a job being rerun around a summer time change
On Tue, 07 Apr 2009 20:23:49 +0200, Martin Simmons mar...@lispworks.com wrote: On Tue, 07 Apr 2009 16:45:54 +0200, Foo said: Basically on startup Bacula needs to check the locale, get the offset from UTC, if any, and set its internal clock to UTC, and change the offset on DST changes. Then use the offset for calculations involving configs/user output like logging. Doing all of those calculations doesn't solve the underlying problem, which is that the user has entered ambiguous data by saying run this at 2:05am local time today. On the day of the DST change, there is no unique UTC for 2:05am local time -- it might occur twice or not at all. I'm just guessing here but this would seem logical to me: when Bacula (re)loads the config, it parses the Schedule {} stanzas and puts them in an array, then it does a neverending sleep/check loop to see if the current time occurs in the array and if so executes the associated job. I'm proposing to remap the schedule array to UTC and check against UTC current time. Since neither changes during the course of the year, every scheduled job is executed exactly once, and always - unless the config is changed/reloaded exactly during a DST change period, but that's up to the user to deal with. The trick is while doing the mapping, you look at whether the schedule would fall in/on a DST change period/second or not. If so, then map it so it occurs on the UTC time equivalent to the 'first' local time (for changes backwards) or immediately after the change (for changes forwards, possibly offset by the same amount in the hour), i.e. a job scheduled for 02:05 local time would occur at 02:05 364 times a year (at the 'first 02:05' on summer to wintertime change day), and at 03:00 (or 03:05) once a year. Obviously this would mean instead of having a static array as large as there are schedules, a dynamic array that needs to be calculated ahead of time for a certain period and refilled every so often (e.g. FIFO every 24 hours). This might cost some extra memory but can be scaled if needed, down to 1 hour and a second basically. The problem is what should 2:05am mean in that case? E.g. is it 2 hours after midnight or 10 hours before midday? It is 02:05+$offset UTC :) The code gets even more non-trivial when you also need to deal with clock adjustment as well. See the first half of cron_tick in http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/usr.sbin/cron/cron/cron.c?rev=1.20 for example. I haven't thoroughly read the code so I'll assume it is an example of dealing with time/offset changes by checking whether current time previous time instead of the above proposal. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Folder Exclusion... didn't work
On Mon, 06 Apr 2009 23:58:29 +0200, Thomas Manson dev.mansontho...@gmail.com wrote: File = /usr/local/bin/scripts/bacula/excludeFolderList/machine.domain_excludeFolderList.txt Do you see anything wrong ? I would experiment with putting the outside the quotes, or omitting the quotes if you know the folder doesn't contain spaces. Also in the restore section the manual says something about entering an empty newline to delimit the list of files when talking about taking the input from a file like above, so an echo machine.domain_excludeFolderList.txt may do something too. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Howto recover from a job being rerun around a summer time change
On Mon, 06 Apr 2009 19:41:52 +0200, Martin Simmons mar...@lispworks.com wrote: On Mon, 06 Apr 2009 17:34:09 +0200, Foo said: The best solution would be for Bacula to translate time to UTC internally for scheduling, everything external such as logfiles, scheduling stanzas in config etc. would remain in the user's locale. That doesn't help, because saying 2:05am local time in the config file is still ambiguous if the local time moves backwards by 1 hour at 3:00am. Not really, UTC remains the same on DST changes, so internal events using UTC should be fine. Basically on startup Bacula needs to check the locale, get the offset from UTC, if any, and set its internal clock to UTC, and change the offset on DST changes. Then use the offset for calculations involving configs/user output like logging. To resolve this, Bacula would have to use UTC in the config file as well. See above. Alternatively, it would need some non-trivial code to deal with the duplicate/missing local times. I don't see how this is not trivial code. I would assume some standard library/system clock routines are used for time, just put a filter routine in between and call that instead (hopefully this should be a search and replace in the code). -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Howto recover from a job being rerun around a summer time change
On Mon, 06 Apr 2009 23:38:38 +0200, John Lockard jlock...@umich.edu wrote: The time jumps at 2am, either forward or backward depending on whether you're switching to or from DST. Most admins I know just completely avoid the time period from 1:00am to 3:00am. entirely because of the Daylight Saving Time switches. Seriously? Usually you can work around them, 2 hours lost of every day for all kinds of stuff is a major issue. We have routines in place to compensate wherever this is an issue (like automatically adjusting awstats config variables twice a year for looking at IIS logs). If you're going to go UTC, then you should go UTC all the way and not worry about what local time. If it's done properly you shouldn't care whether the server is set to UTC or not, an application should be perfectly capable of using local time and computing UTC internally and/or externally (such as logging) without user intervention. If anything it's not done because developers have better things to do (read are lazy :) - or in the case of Microsoft, well, fill in your favourite expletives. Normally that's not a problem, but for something like a scheduler which has obvious issues with times jumping back and forward there is no excuse. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] [Bulk] Re: thannyd earthlink.net
On Tue, 07 Apr 2009 07:44:26 +0200, James Harper james.har...@bendigoit.com.au wrote: Mike Holden writes: Dan Langille wrote: This is standard practice on this list. If you wish to participate, please ensure you account for this practice. You may see it as standard practice, but it's certainly not encouraged practice, and probably only a handful of users do it that way (i.e. wrongly). Some people lazily hit reply all and don't bother to check what they are doing. I admit I've done it myself on occasion, either through haste or forgetfulness or distraction, but I do at least __try__ to do it properly! Couldn't agree more. I hit reply-all all the time. What MTA are you using that can't sort out duplicates for you? The exact same complaint that Dan made (don't make your spam problem our spam problem) could be levelled at anyone advocating using a specific MTA or alternative mail service to fix duplicate replies: don't make your (personal) list practice our duplicate mail problem. At least do it as an exception, not as a rule. The reason I use reply-all is that the sender is not necessarily going to receive a copy in their inbox otherwise. They may be subscribed in 'digest' mode, or may have their subscription configured to not receive a copy at all, which allows them to post and then read the messages via the archives. In every such case it's their own responsility to make sure they see replies, and if they prefer to receive both private/list, they can ask for it. By your reasoning everyone reading in digest mode and quoting the whole digest (and top quoting, leaving everyone else to figure out message order, what the reply is to etc.) should also be excused. I imagine that wouldn't be an uncommon configuration either - say you were responsible for a server running Xen, also running Debian, using Bacula for backups, Apache as a web server, MySQL as a database, and PHP as a scripting engine, and occasionally asked questions on those mailing lists when the need arose. You'd spend half of your day just processing email if you actually received all of those lists into your inbox! So how does receiving extra mail to process to your private, not as easily filtered mailbox help there? :) The spam problem will never be solved until human nature changes. I now happily refer you to the 'your solution to the spam problem will not work because' standard form http://craphound.com/spamsolutions.txt -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Howto recover from a job being rerun around a summer time change
On Sun, 05 Apr 2009 09:29:48 +0200, Kevin Keane subscript...@kkeane.com wrote: Mark V wrote: Two questions: Q1) Am I going mad or is it possible for bat to show an error that does not show in the bacula log file? I don't know I've seen Bat hijack output away from an open bconsole, though I'm not sure whether this would also prevent output from appearing in the log. If so, I would consider it a bug. This might not be a problem if the concurrent connection limit is increased. I can see several options: Excluding a fair chunk of backup prime time every night is silly. Scheduling/scripting around the specific dates for everything is too laborious and error prone. Fixing it by hand later is a pain if you deal with a lot of backups. Setting the server to UTC seems the best option, except for something like Windows, which always expects the RTC to be local. We have a lot of dumb *IX apps that simply assume local time too, unfortunately. The best solution would be for Bacula to translate time to UTC internally for scheduling, everything external such as logfiles, scheduling stanzas in config etc. would remain in the user's locale. Until then maybe you can combine canceling the job with a scripted check for date. -- ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] phantom filesystems in Windows
On Sun, 05 Apr 2009 06:20:29 +0200, Kevin Keane subscript...@kkeane.com wrote: Close, but not quite. The junction, and anything underneath, is simply disregarded. As John Drescher mentioned, you probably have to recreate it manually. The data itself actually doesn't even sit under the junction in the first place. It's somewhere else in your file system. And it would get backed up *in that place*. Unless it's excluded for some other reason. I would agree this is unlikely, but not impossible. But what happens if the data has to be restored? Will the actual data be restored together with the junction? The actual data will be restored with the whatever directory it actually resides. The important bit is, how do you handle the junction point? If Bacula doesn't understand it, like now, you can either back it up explicitly, which is redundant and quite possibly breaks any updates for apps that expect a junction point instead of a real directory (or update files in one location expecting the other to be in sync), or you can ignore it and probably break whatever is using it immediately after a restore, unless you know why something breaks and how to fix it. Neither option is very good. You might argue that the latter option is better, since it's best to fix something immediately than to have a latent problem that's harder to troubleshoot later, however when you need a restore you tend to be under SLA, already sleep deprived etc. :) Bacula should handle this itself intelligently: on backup note in the Catalog it's a junction point and then check whether the original location is backed up, if so do nothing else, if not, back up enough of the structure referenced by the junction point so that it can be restored and complain in warnings. Do the same in reverse for restores, i.e. restore junction point and if it's not in the fileset enough of the hierarchy it references so the structure underneath it can be restored (and possibly complain again). If the intelligent bit is too much work you could possibly leave the junction dangling like a (soft) symlink without target in *IX, although I'm not familiar enough with Windows to say this will work without problems. -- ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] thannyd earthlink.net
On Mon, 06 Apr 2009 15:54:18 +0200, Mike Ruskai than...@earthlink.net wrote: On 04/05/2009 19:11, Dan Langille wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Please do not make your spam problem *our* spam problem. There are better ways to handle this. Please do not expect every person on this mailing list to fill out this webform every time they post to the list. No one has to do any such thing to post to this list. You're getting that because you're writing a message directly to me, not the list. That you routinely write both to the original sender and the list is not my problem. Something I would have been happy to explain privately, but insist on explaining publicly because you've posted the above to the list. Pwned :) (sorry, couldn't resist, no offence etc. :) -- ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] phantom filesystems in Windows
On Thu, 02 Apr 2009 17:57:32 +0200, John Drescher dresche...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Kevin Keane subscript...@kkeane.com wrote: This actually is correct behavior. If you look carefully, you will see that these two directories are actually not directories at all, but rather junction points that simply reference other directories somewhere else. Windows junction points are like a cross between Linux symlinks and Linux mounts. I would like to add to the OP that these should be ignored as they are harmless. They belong to .net 2.0 and can be included explicitly. If you don't, I would expect .net to break in some mysterious way, although it might break anyway if Bacula cannot restore junction points (can it?). At least I include them to be sure. You'll get warnings about them anyway if you include the whole partition, but that can be ignored. I guess if the restore doesn't work properly, you can always reinstall ..net (+ hotfixes/service packs) to fix it, though that's not ideal. Thankfully I didn't run into this so far. -- ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] [Bulk] Re: How to list file sizes in terminated jobs
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:17:11 +0100, Craig Ringer cr...@postnewspapers.com.au wrote: Foo wrote: Hi, I'm looking to mod query option 12 to list not just path/filename but size too, possibly other attributes like permissions, datestamps etc. Is this info kept in the catalog somewhere or does Bacula parse volume files for this? If the latter, has anyone done any scripting to parse it out? bacula=# select lstat from file limit 10; lstat [..] (10 rows) Thanks for the effort, I was kind of hoping it would be in some table in a usable form already so you can simply change the query select statement (MySQL here). My end users will not accept having to run a separate utility every time they need filesizes (they are already unhappy about having to use the console, webacula/bacula-web is on the todo list). -- ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
[Bacula-users] How to list file sizes in terminated jobs
Hi, I'm looking to mod query option 12 to list not just path/filename but size too, possibly other attributes like permissions, datestamps etc. Is this info kept in the catalog somewhere or does Bacula parse volume files for this? If the latter, has anyone done any scripting to parse it out? -- ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] limit client console messages
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:41:01 +0100, Ulrich Leodolter ulrich.leodol...@obvsg.at wrote: How can i limit console messages to specific client? If i call bconsole on clientxyz i'd like to see only messages related to clientxyz-fd Don't think there is a bconsole command for this, but you could do something like this: echo autodisplay on | bconsole /tmp/foo Then grep hostname on /tmp/foo, make it a pipe for continuous use etc. Unfortunately only a part of the lines is prepended by the proper hostname, so this is only a quick workaround. A better way is to use a script instead (or in front) of /sbin/bsmtp for the mailcommand facility in the Messages {} resource, since this is already splitting output per job. -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
[Bacula-users] Strange backup errors on Windows 2003, 2.4.4 fd, 2.4.3 director
Hi, on one W2K3 machine (same settings as a bunch of others without problems), I started getting some strange errors. The job report says Backup OK with warnings (which is expected), the Windows console tray reports 'Error' for all jobs, even after restart of the bacula-fd service and a rerun of the job which now reports Backup OK in bconsole. The job also does D:, so I do get some files backed up for the second day. The eventlog doesn't show anything bacula related, I haven't tried rebooting the server yet. Is the server on the fritz? What could cause these errors? First day of errors: 10-Mar 00:31 hostname-fd JobId 2060: Cannot open c:/Documents and Settings/foouser/ntuser.dat.LOG: ERR=The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process. .. 10-Mar 00:31 hostname-fd JobId 2060: Cannot open c:/Documents and Settings/baruser/ntuser.dat.LOG: ERR=The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process. .. 10-Mar 00:31 hostname-fd JobId 2060: Cannot open c:/WINDOWS/SoftwareDistribution/DataStore/DataStore.edb: ERR=The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process. .. 10-Mar 00:31 hostname-fd JobId 2060: Cannot open c:/WINDOWS/SoftwareDistribution/DataStore/Logs/edb.log: ERR=The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process. .. 10-Mar 00:31 hostname-fd JobId 2060: Cannot open c:/WINDOWS/SoftwareDistribution/DataStore/Logs/tmp.edb: ERR=The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process. .. 10-Mar 00:31 hostname-fd JobId 2060: Cannot open c:/WINDOWS/SoftwareDistribution/EventCache/{5C27E49F-6DF3-48C9-8A8C-71B7085753F5}.bin: ERR=The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process. .. 10-Mar 00:31 hostname-fd JobId 2060: Cannot open c:/WINDOWS/system32/config/default.LOG: ERR=The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process. .. 10-Mar 00:31 hostname-fd JobId 2060: Cannot open c:/WINDOWS/system32/config/SAM.LOG: ERR=The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process. .. 10-Mar 00:31 hostname-fd JobId 2060: Cannot open c:/WINDOWS/system32/config/SECURITY.LOG: ERR=The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process. .. 10-Mar 00:31 hostname-fd JobId 2060: Cannot open c:/WINDOWS/system32/config/software.LOG: ERR=The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process. .. 10-Mar 00:31 hostname-fd JobId 2060: Cannot open c:/WINDOWS/system32/config/system.LOG: ERR=The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process. .. Second day: 11-Mar 00:30 hostname-fd JobId 2130: Could not open directory c:/: ERR=The system cannot find the path specified. -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
[Bacula-users] Include or exclude /selinux?
Hi, should /selinux be included or excluded from backup? I.e. is it also dynamically created at boot or will I be left with an incomplete system if I exclude it? By default bacula does not descend into it since it's not the same filesystem type as the fs root (only shows up in /proc/mounts as type selinuxfs, not when entering 'mount'). (sorry if this is duplicate, got a bounce earlier) -- ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Include or exclude /selinux?
On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:05:10 +0100, Frank Sweetser f...@wpi.edu wrote: Excluded (or, if you have onefs, not included). /selinux is a virtual filesystem, similar to /proc, that is just a view into the current kernel state. Thanks, I knew it was a simple one :) -- ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] How to force a full backup?
On Thu, 05 Mar 2009 21:49:41 +0100, Kevin Keane subscript...@kkeane.com wrote: Funny you say that. Yes, your version is shorted and will work. I actually used to have it that way. The reason I changed to the longer version is that now the schedule file is generated by a script, it's basically a simple for loop that generates it. One thing this lets me do is easily generate different scheduled so that the full backups are staggered for different clients, and the differentials always happen 7 days after the fulls. Hehe, I think lots of people reinvent that wheel, I also wrote a little bash oneliner to stagger schedules over days/weeks: i=0; for srv in $(cat /tmp/servers.txt); do let i++; let j=(i-1)/7+1; let k=($j-1)*7; let dayno=$i-$k; let p=($j-1)/4; let q=$p*4; let weekno=$j-$q; let tmp=8-$dayno; mainday=$(date +%a --date=$tmp day ago | sed -r 's/(.*)/\L\1\E/'); let tmp=7-$dayno; firstday=$(date +%a --date=$tmp day ago | sed -r 's/(.*)/\L\1\E/'); let tmp=9-$dayno; lastday=$(date +%a --date=$tmp day ago | sed -r 's/(.*)/\L\1\E/'); case $weekno in 1) fullweek=1st; diffweek=2nd-5th;; 2) fullweek=2nd; diffweek=3rd-1st;; 3) fullweek=3rd; diffweek=4th-2nd;; 4) fullweek=4th; diffweek=5th-3rd;; esac; sed -i s+HOSTNAME+$srv+;s+Full 1st fri+Full $fullweek $mainday+;s+2nd-5th fri+$diffweek $mainday+;s+sat-thu+$firstday-$lastday+ schedules/$srv.schedule; done /tmp/servers.txt has a hostname on each line, and I include schedules using the @/etc/bacula/schedules/hostname.schedule format in bacula-dir.conf. The above expects existing dummy schedule files containing 'HOSTNAME', 'Full 1st fri' etc. strings, see the sed stuff, this can be created easily with another for loop copying a sample file. -- Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Windows restore: Can not browse files
On Tue, 17 Feb 2009 01:34:24 +0100, Thomas Lindgaard tho...@it-snedkeren.dk wrote: cwd is: / $ ls C:/ $ cd C:/ cwd is: C:/ $ ls / $ I can not change directories for some reason... I have tried doing the same using the Webmin Bacula Module and the bwx-console with similar results. I thought this was answered a couple of days ago, looks like you capitalized the drive letter, try something like this: FileSet { Name = your fileset name Include { Options { signature = MD5 Exclude = yes # 1. don't use slash at the end or the directory will be ignored # 2. explicit paths can be excluded here or in the Exclude section, WildDir/File (i.e. regexp) only here # 3. only lower case drive letters and forward slashes work properly, e.g. File = C:\\Documents and Settings\\Administrator only allows restore of single files WildDir = c:/Documents and Settings/*/Local Settings/Temporary Internet Files WildDir = c:/Documents and Settings/*/Local Settings/History WildDir = c:/Documents and Settings/*/Local Settings/Temp WildDir = c:/Documents and Settings/*/NetHood WildDir = c:/Documents and Settings/*/PrintHood } File = c:/ # if you have .net 2.0, explicitly include this, it is otherwise not backed up (regardless, you will keep seeing an error because of the previous include) File = c:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_32/System.EnterpriseServices/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a } Exclude { File = c:/pagefile.sys File = c:/Documents and Settings/All Users/Application Data/Bacula/Spool File = c:/Documents and Settings/All Users/Application Data/Bacula/Work File = c:/RECYCLER File = c:/WINDOWS/Temp # File = c:/System Volume Information } } -- Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Windows restore: Can not browse or restore files
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 19:18:16 +0100, Thomas Lindgaard tho...@homohabilis.dk wrote: 5 Jobs, 42,937 files inserted into the tree. You are now entering file selection mode where you add (mark) and remove (unmark) files to be restored. No files are initially added, unless you used the all keyword on the command line. Enter done to leave this mode. cwd is: / $ ls C:/ $ cd C:/ cwd is: C:/ $ ls / $ I can not change directories for some reason... I have tried doing the same using the Webmin Bacula Module and the bwx-console with similar results. It may just be some tiny configuration issue, but I can't figure out what... I have only played around with Bacula for a couple of days. Any ideas? The file selection subsection is a little bit broken, my experience with this is that you need to know the exact syntax in both config and while selecting files. For example, I notice you have a capital C: while in my backups I have a lower case c:, maybe try using it without a slash change the capital to lower case (both while selecting and in your fileset for backup). If all else fails and you need to get data back from already made backups you could try using the 'all' keyword to restore everything without selection (and then restore it to somewhere else so you don't overwrite stuff you don't want to), or use one of the bscan/bextract utils. -- Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
[Bacula-users] Difference between 'client' and 'clients' in bconsole
Just in case someone runs into this too: Added a bunch of clients to the bacula-dir.conf (containing Client {} stanzas with Name, Address, FDPort, Catalog, Password etc. directives), but not yet all the other associated stuff like Storage/Pool/Job/Fileset/Schedule definitions for them, then did reload in bconsole. - 'status clients' and 'list clients' return the defined Storage resources - 'status client', '.client' and '.clients' return the defined Client list - 'list client' gives an error - 'show client' and 'show clients' return the defined Client list - 'status storage' is an alias to 'status clients' - 'list storage' gives an error - 'show storage' shows detailed Storage info I find this a little bit confusing :) -- Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] How to properly escape Linux shell commands for ClientRunBeforeJob?
On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 14:56:34 +0100, Frank Sweetser f...@wpi.edu wrote: The problem isn't that you're not escaping the shell characters, the problem is that there's no shell there to treat them as special characters in the first place. From the RunScript section of http://bacula.org/en/rel-manual/Configuring_Director.html#SECTION00143 Right, so that's probably why the redirection fails as well, thanks. -- Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] bacula-fd not playing nice with time critical apps
On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 09:02:20 +0100, Craig Ringer cr...@postnewspapers.com.au wrote: Try setting the high priority job to -c1 (realtime) and the bacula fd to -c3 (idle) priority. Bacula is already at -c3, I'm not supposed to touch the other app, unfortunately. Thanks for your other suggestions, I'll forward those to the responsible parties as well. I landed up having to hack the sources of the driver for my 3Ware Escalade 8500-8 to get decent I/O latency, since the driver queued up to 256 (!!) requests internally. This prevented Linux from pre-empting already issued I/O with higher priority new I/O requests. As much as I would like to do this kind of thing I have more pressing matters occupying my time :) -- Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] How to properly escape Linux shell commands for ClientRunBeforeJob?
On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 10:10:27 +0100, Ralf Brinkmann ralf.brinkm...@wemhoener.de wrote: (Client)RunBefore/AfterJob: sticking commands one after another on one line separated by semicolon seems not to work propperly. Looks that way, but sticking them on separate lines doesn't work either, since redirection is not properly escaped either. Until someone comes up with an answer I have put the commands in a shell script on the local server, which does work. -- Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
[Bacula-users] How to send Bacula messages to different addresses based on backup job, not type
Hi, Is it possible to send mail to different recipients depending on the backup job? I.e. operator messages and jobs backing up servers 100 to 200 should be sent to address A, but e.g. error messages (or just all messages) concerning machines 110 to 120 should (also) be sent to address B. I couldn't find this in the manual, so I would think it's only possible via an extra 'append =' directive in all message sections, and doing some scripting on the resulting file. -- Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
[Bacula-users] How to properly escape Linux shell commands for ClientRunBeforeJob?
Hi, I'm trying to run the following command before a backup: svnadmin --quiet dump /var/svnrepo /tmp/svnrepo_backup.svn_dump; gzip -9 /tmp/svnrepo_backup.svn_dump and 'rm -f /tmp/svnrepo_backup.svn_dump.gz' after the job. When executing the above on the shell it works fine. So I added in the job definition of the machine: ClientRunBeforeJob = svnadmin --quiet dump /var/svnrepo /tmp/svnrepo_backup.svn_dump; gzip -9 /tmp/svnrepo_backup.svn_dump ClientRunAfterJob = rm -f /tmp/svnrepo_backup.svn_dump.gz This fails with: ClientRunBeforeJob: svnadmin: invalid option character: 9 ClientRunBeforeJob: Type 'svnadmin help' for usage. Error: Runscript: ClientRunBeforeJob returned non-zero status=1. ERR=Child exited with code 1 Obviously the command needs some escapes lest svnadmin think all the line is arguments for it. So I peruse the manual and find the '' needs escaping. But when I do that (or break up the svnadmin and gzip commands into two ClientRunBeforeJob lines), the whole svn dump will be done to standard out, which in short order fills up the bconsole log and since the job output is mailed, kills bsmtp and gets me blacklisted on the mail gateway for DoS-ing it :) Canceling the job doesn't stop the flood, only killing the bacula-fd on the SVN machine does after a while. Does anyone know how to properly escape the above? I could probably use a local shell script as a single command instead, but would like to know how to do proper escaping for future use. -- Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] [Bulk] Re: How to send Bacula messages to different addresses based on backup job, not type
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 13:59:02 +0100, Mike Eggleston mikee...@me.com wrote: On Fri, 13 Feb 2009, Foo might have said: Is it possible to send mail to different recipients depending on the backup job? On unix you could sent the mail to a sendmail alias, use the bacula-main-alias:|/opt/local/bin/parse-bacula-mail.sh syntax. The shell script would decide where the message should be redirected when the alias receives it. Just to clarify the whole chain, output (from jobs etc.) is piped to the mail/operatorcommand, which is normally bsmtp with arguments, so bsmtp listens to stdin, adds formatted headers and sends output to the defined mail gateway. I presume bsmtp doesn't look at aliases, so for the above to work you need to replace the mail/operatorcommand with sendmail. Wouldn't it be more useful to simply point the mail/operatorcommand directly to the shell script and put bsmtp in there with some grep + if/then constructions to decide what goes where? Or possibly procmail? -- Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Debian/Ubuntu and openssl
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 21:17:33 +0100, Bill Merriam li...@billmerriam.com wrote: I would also be happy to provide the scripts for anybody that wants to build their own packages/repository. I think a lot of people would appreciate this, can you add it to the Wiki? (http://wiki.bacula.org/doku.php?id=howtos) -- Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM) software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] bacula-fd not playing nice with time critical apps
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:13:46 +0100, Foo bfo...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:41:53 +0100, Mike Holden bac...@mikeholden.org wrote: You could also look at using iotop and iftop to check disk and network throughtput at the problem times to see what is going on. Looked up iotop, unfortunately it requires kernel 2.6.20 and I'm on 2.6.18 for the time being. -- Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM) software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] bacula-fd not playing nice with time critical apps
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:41:53 +0100, Mike Holden bac...@mikeholden.org wrote: Foo wrote: Hi, I'm doing a backup on a Debian Etch server which runs a network/time critical app at -20 niceness, but even with nice -n19 bacula-fd still causes glitches (packetloss). They seem to happen when the backup starts and ends, during the backup (doing 20-23 MB/s) there is no problem. An incremental backup that takes 5 seconds still causes a glitch, although much smaller. Doing an 'estimate job=servername' via bconsole causes no glitch, but this is probably due to caching after the backup (returns immediately with the correct answer). This makes me think it is disk IO related (2x15K rpm SAS drives in RAID1 on Dell Perc/5i - backup goes to other disk array over Gb Ethernet/Fiber). Is there a way to solve this on the Bacula side? The server is normally using only a few percent CPU, with bacula-fd going up to 15-25% at most, it's scheduling, or some disk related holdup that seems to be the problem. If you suspect disk I/O may be a sticking point, look at using ionice. Works in much the same way as nice, but for limiting I/O rather than cpu. Thanks, that helped, although there is still some packetloss (about a quarter of the previous value). You could also look at using iotop and iftop to check disk and network throughtput at the problem times to see what is going on. I'm afraid these are too general to troubleshoot the remaining loss, since they deal with quantity, not quality. Unless the Bacula FD does something naughty it's probably some low level component that needs optimization (I can't touch network buffer sizes BTW, which are optimized for the main app running on the server). -- Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM) software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
[Bacula-users] bacula-fd not playing nice with time critical apps
Hi, I'm doing a backup on a Debian Etch server which runs a network/time critical app at -20 niceness, but even with nice -n19 bacula-fd still causes glitches (packetloss). They seem to happen when the backup starts and ends, during the backup (doing 20-23 MB/s) there is no problem. An incremental backup that takes 5 seconds still causes a glitch, although much smaller. Doing an 'estimate job=servername' via bconsole causes no glitch, but this is probably due to caching after the backup (returns immediately with the correct answer). This makes me think it is disk IO related (2x15K rpm SAS drives in RAID1 on Dell Perc/5i - backup goes to other disk array over Gb Ethernet/Fiber). Is there a way to solve this on the Bacula side? The server is normally using only a few percent CPU, with bacula-fd going up to 15-25% at most, it's scheduling, or some disk related holdup that seems to be the problem. -- Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM) software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Perception of Bacula (was: products based on bacula)
On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 08:02:14 +0100, Dan Langille d...@langille.org wrote: On Jan 30, 2009, at 3:07 PM, Arno Lehmann wrote: When I'm talking with the management of a potential customer, I neither use the tag line, nor do we read over the website together... Right, so you filter. Which is not always possible. In fact, if they want to talk about those things, they probably know a web server called apache, whose name is also quite ridiculous. It's not how fanciful a name is, but the (unintended) connotations. All product evaluation should start with a list of requirements. We all know about requirements collection. From there, you evaluate the available products. Often points are awarded for various features. In my case we are byond the requirements stage, this is about selling it to third parties. Incidentally, I got a reply which concisely stated that no third party software may be installed, so the issue was deftly avoided, but I'm pretty sure the above played a part. I have yet to see any requirements which specified nice name or non-tacky by line. Sure, but back in the real world marketing is king. The current Bacula marketing doesn't score points in some quarters, whether you like it or not (and eventually if you want to compete you have to compromise, whether you have 'do no evil' as your motto or not (see China)). We have much bigger and better fish to fry. Worrying about potential users who clearly do not have their priorities in order is not on our top 10 list. Hey, I'm just trying to help, illustrated with example. If we were out to make money, these issues have much more merit. I thought that was the object of Bacula Systems. -- Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM) software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] [Bulk] Re: How to automate Windows installer for a large number of hosts?
On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:37:58 +0100, Michel Meyers stel...@tcnnet.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Foo wrote: Hi, I'm looking at a large rollout, and estimate around 16 hours of non-stop clicking for the Windows side of things (I've got the Linux side covered). Is it possible to automate the Windows installer with arguments that fill in the various fields such as hostnames, IP addresses, passwords etc.? If does have a /S switch (must be capital) that should make it auto-install the FD with the default settings. You'll have to fill in the config files for yourself, or somehow replace them further down in your script. Thanks, this will be easier than getting into NSIS. Afterwards I will mount shares and use sed -i on the configs before running the service. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
[Bacula-users] Perception of Bacula (was: products based on bacula)
Sorry, don't have the thread in my mail anymore, so new thread. Today I got this snippet in the mail regarding permission to install Bacula on a subcontractor's systems: Regarding `the count bacula', I need to escalate your request to my colleagues in *** to see if it can co-exist with ***. I'll let you know. Somehow that sounds ominous. Personally I appreciate the catchphrase's humour, and apparently my counterpart above does too, but it also gives the wrong impression regarding maturity (of the product) to his PHB. If Bacula (or more importantly Bacula Systems) wants to be perceived as professional, it needs to be acknowledged that engineering culture (read humour) is not compatible with management/business culture. IMHO it's a mistake to rely on the engineering layer's ability to sensibly filter this to management, at least the 'sucks by night' catchphrase needlessly complicates acceptance and has to go. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
[Bacula-users] How to automate Windows installer for a large number of hosts?
Hi, I'm looking at a large rollout, and estimate around 16 hours of non-stop clicking for the Windows side of things (I've got the Linux side covered). Is it possible to automate the Windows installer with arguments that fill in the various fields such as hostnames, IP addresses, passwords etc.? If not, is it possible to take apart the installer and write new scripts doing this and how much work would this be? It could be a generic installer choosing from a plaintext file with a list of fixed hostnames, IP addresses and passwords, or a unique installer per server, as long as both can simply be copied and run silently. I would prefer the elegant solution over the mindnumbing one, but it has to take less than about two full working days (for a non-developer who has never seen NSIS from the inside). -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
[Bacula-users] Retention period definitions clashing with scheduling definitions?
Hi, Just to make sure I've got this correct: Bacula does a simple calculation when parsing retention config options such as month=30 days*24 hours*60 minutes*60 seconds everywhere. An example: maximum volumes=3 (per pool) volume use duration=1 month volume retention=5 weeks file retention=2 months job retention=2 months Which translates to (llist volumes): VolRetention: 3,024,000 VolUseDuration: 2,592,000 So, Vol A is used for 2,592,000 seconds (day 1-30 day), on day 65 its status is changed from Append to Used (volume retention=5 weeks) and associated files/jobs are purged from the database on day 91. (I may have the status names confused) Vol B is used from day 31-60, its status changes on day 95, file/jobs purge on day 121. Vol C is used from day 61-90, its status changes on day 125. file/jobs purge on day 151. On day 91, Bacula sees Vol A is the only one from the pool which can be recycled (status Used) and it has also just purged file/job info from the db so the cycle is complete, everything's fine. Except, in the schedule section, if you use something like: Run = Full 1st sun at 00:30, the actual backup date can be up to 6 days later (i.e. month starts on a Monday, so 1st Sun is 7th day). For 2009, 1st Sun in Jan/Feb/Mar/Apr is 2009-01-04, 2009-02-01, 2009-03-01 and 2009-04-05. Vol A is used from 2009-01-04 - 2009-02-02, status changed on 2009-03-09, files/jobs purged on 2009-04-03. Vol B from 2009-02-03 - 2009-03-04, status 2009-04-08, purge 2009-05-03. Vol C from 2009-03-05 - 2009-04-03, status 2009-05-08, purge 2009-06-02. So, Vol A has a full backup on 2009-01-04 and 2009-02-01, Vol B has a backup on 2009-03-01 and Vol C has no backups at all. After the cycle rotates around and Vol B is purged, if something goes wrong you are basically missing a month. Also, if you make the mistake with file/job retentions using 3 months for example you will also end up with warnings (and no backups) while Bacula is waiting to purge file/job info. Is there any way to have Bacula keep dynamic track of weeks/months and interpret 'month' as 28 days for February for example? -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] [RESOLVED] Mini stupid how-to restore mark all .bak file
On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 14:45:37 +0100, Bruno Friedmann br...@ioda-net.ch wrote: We want to restore some type of files for a determined client and we have define which jobid we need. (you can always adjust what you need ..) First we create a script for bconsole called mybscript restore 3 9876,9877 - this is the jobid or jobids find *.log- the pattern searched unmark * - be sure to have nothing marked done - close restore quit - exit bconsole So we launch our script by issuing a cat mybscript | bconsole /tmp/my_file_searched (you could use tail or what you want to have the output redirected ... ) Just check that the bacula dir user could cat this output file. After we edit this file to cut all lines concerning bconsole message. (if your log file is too big to be directly edited so can use head tail to cut it cf to man) To automate that: cat /tmp/mybscript | bconsole | awk '/\$ unmark/{p=0};p;/\$ find/{p=1};' /tmp/my_file_searched This assumes that there will be exactly one instance of $ find and $ unmark in the file, so don't add more find statements to 'mybscript'. After we launch the restore echoing to bconsole or directly in bconsole (this will permit to change destination, level, runtime etc...) bconsole restore client=YOUR-fd jobid=9876,9877 file=/tmp/my_file_searched the rest is normal operation like describe in documentation That's all folks. This procedure is LGPL licenced. My addition is public domain ;) -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Mini stupid how-to restore mark all .bak file
On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 21:15:05 +0100, Bruno Friedmann br...@ioda-net.ch wrote: Thanks foo for the script (awk is not my favorite friends and have some difficulties to talk with it ) Did you think it's possible to run this against a 5 files results. Well, like I said it's not optimized for large volumes, just a quick workaround for up to a few hundred files. If you're not in a hurry you could run it in a screen session :) (will probably take a couple of hours) The 'file_with_names' restore option is useful to get around the speed issue but even with the 'before a speficied time' bit you can't select a specific jobid to restore from (it probably takes the newest match before the time you specify from the latest set of full+differential+incremental backups for the particular device you select), which means you might not get the correct file. In either case you still need to create the file containing the filenames. This should really be solved by fixing bconsole's recursive file selection functionality. You might also try creating a restore Job with an Include section with WildFile arguments or something similar, I haven't tried that. But I've just found a way to have an unlimited history in the new kde4 konsole. which save me ... Now just have to insert it in the bconsole restore command. A copy/paste with 5 filenames is probably going to take a large amount of time too, and if there's even one problem (glitch where prompt doesn't come back in time for example) you may end up with a broken restore. I'm not sure how this handles special characters or spaces in filenames either. Really I appreciate the script, which would certainly be used one day or another. Improvements are welcome :) -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula giving slow speed
On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 13:31:54 +0100, Bruno Friedmann br...@ioda-net.ch wrote: Holikar, Sachin (ext) wrote: Hi All, Please find below the extract from the Bacula website( http://www.bacula.org/en/rel-manual/Catalog_Maintenance.html#SECTION0024 8 http://www.bacula.org/en/rel-manual/Catalog_Maintenance.html#SECTION002 48 ) They say, Performance Issues Indexes : I added the following indexes: CREATE INDEX File_JobId_idx ON File(JobId); CREATE INDEX File_PathId_idx ON File(PathId); CREATE INDEX File_FilenameId_idx ON File(FilenameId); CREATE INDEX Path_PathId_idx ON Path(PathId); CREATE INDEX Job_FileSetId_idx ON Job(FileSetId); CREATE INDEX Job_ClientId_idx ON Job(ClientId); CREATE INDEX File_FilenameId-PathId_idx ON File(FilenameId,PathId); This reduced dbcheck time from 24 hours to a few *seconds*. Adding the indexes themselves only took up to 15 seconds, but for now the database is relatively small at 200 MB for the whole /var/lib/mysql/bacula dir and it's a decent machine (quad core Xeon 2.33 GHz machine with 4 GB of RAM). It remains to be seen whether the added indexing will impact insert/update performance, but I'll take a small performance hit if it means faster restores and sanity checks. The bottleneck here is NAS disk throughput so the number of concurrent jobs is limited. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Mini stupid how-to restore mark all .bak file
On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 11:58:09 +0100, Bruno Friedmann br...@ioda-net.ch wrote: Sorry this seems stupid but when I enter in a restore I use the choice 3 ( list of jobids ) get my / rebuild If I issue a find *.bak it find and list all what I want to mark and restore (recurse also) but giving a mark *.bak give 0 file marked help say mark dir/file to be restored recursively, wildcards allowed The recursive behaviour is broken, as well as listing already marked files outside of the directory they are in, in every version I used so far (2.0 - 2.4.3). My workaround for this is: - use 'list jobs' or 'list jobname=jobname to find the jobid you need, use '@output /tmp/foo' then 'list files jobid=nnn', then '@output' to dump the file list to /tmp/foo - on a single line (hopefully not munged by the list/by browsers): grep .bak /tmp/foo | awk '{ gsub(/^\|\ |\ +\|$/,); print }' | awk -F / '{ printf (cd \); for (i=1; iNF; i++) printf (%s/, $i); printf (\\n); print mark \ $NF \ }' /tmp/foo2 Note the space behind the extension, this makes sure we only get files that end with this (so .bak.2 and similar will not be restored). The awks strip leading/trailing pipes and spaces, then strip off path (using '/' as separator), does a cd to the path, then marks the file (NF is number of fields on the line, $NF is last field). - in bconsole do restore, during file selection do '@input /tmp/foo2' - this will dump the file we just created above resulting in a bunch of cd and mark statements executed by bconsole. Use estimate or count to see how many files you marked, should be the same as 'wc -l /tmp/foo2'. With lots of files this is slow, it could be optimized to cd to a dir only once and use wildcards for marking instead of the full filename, but that's left up to the reader :) -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Windows agent status window missing
On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 22:06:33 +0100, John Drescher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this vista? The tray does not work in vista. It's Windows Server 2003 Standard Edition with Service Pack 2. No idea about XP/Vista. - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Windows agent status window missing
On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 21:22:41 +0100, Jari Fredriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have 2.4.3 fd and the status icon and window shows and works fine. It was never stripped. Thanks for confirming that, what version of Windows do you use? - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Windows agent status window missing - SOLVED
On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:45:39 +0100, Foo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, in the Windows FD version 2.2.6 you got a systray icon which when doubleclicked showed the job status, with Windows FD version 2.4.3 you just get the service running in the background. I found the reason: the icon is only visible on the console, and not when logging in via remote desktop. You need to add /console to the remote desktop arguments (or -0 if you use rdesktop from a Linux client), it will show up then. Maybe you guys could test this with Vista as well, I stay well away from it :) - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
[Bacula-users] Windows agent status window missing
Hi, in the Windows FD version 2.2.6 you got a systray icon which when doubleclicked showed the job status, with Windows FD version 2.4.3 you just get the service running in the background. Was this functionality stripped between 2.2.6 and 2.4.3 or is there a way to make it appear again? I actually prefer the systray icon's absence, but would like a way to make the status window (temporarily) appear again. Or am I doing something wrong? (first message posted via POP client, please excuse any irregularities) - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Concurrent backups to disk
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[Bacula-users] Concurrent backups to disk
Hi, according to the manual, you need to create more devices for concurrent backups to disk since Bacula regards everything as tapes, so a single Device will block until each individual job to it is finished. I'm a little unclear on what new sections I need though, presumable a number of 'Device {}' sections in bacula-sd.conf (or one per job if I absolutely want to be able to do concurrent backups of any combination of jobs, right?), but do these need to have unique Names, Media Types, and do I need one new 'Storage {}' section for each of these in bacula-dir.conf? Can these have the same keys for communication? Or am I off base and can I just add new 'Archive Device' lines in the Device {} section of bacula-sd.conf instead and create symlinks to the directory I'm backing up in? BTW, a number of my questions regarding using VSS, OpenSSL encryption and rescue CDs has gone unanswered, does noone have experience with these or have I offended someone? I'm trying to Google and read the manual as much as possible before giving up and posing the question here, if the answers are in the manual a reference to the chapter would already help a lot. __ Sent from Yahoo! - the World's favourite mail http://uk.mail.yahoo.com - SF.Net email is sponsored by: The Future of Linux Business White Paper from Novell. From the desktop to the data center, Linux is going mainstream. Let it simplify your IT future. http://altfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/8857-50307-18918-4 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
[Bacula-users] Restoring encrypted backups with Recovery CD
Can someone please tell me whether I can use the Rescue CD to restore encrypted backups? According to the docs the precompiled/packaged versions don't have OpenSSL support but it doesn't say for the Knoppix subdir. Since all my backups are encrypted, how do I do a bare metal recovery if there is no support for it on the rescue CD? Can the binary that's put into the iso image be supplanted by one I compile myself, but with OpenSSL support? ___ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] All the problems with Bacula
--- Robert LeBlanc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/21/07 7:11 AM, Foo Bar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: all set up (I can't get BAT to compile for example, hopefully the Debian stable package will be updated soon). Debian stable will never get the new version until Lenny is released as stable. I've used the testing and sid packages in Lenny without any problems. Beware that 2.2.5 is stuck in sid until the new version of qt4 fixes dependencies. For stability reasons I cannot run unstable/testing on production servers, and I prefer not to on my own machines. I did download depkgs-qt/qwt-5.0.2, compiled qt4 from source (/usr/local/Trolltech/Qt-4.3.0/) and whatnot but am still getting errors while compiling BAT (undefined reference this and that). I'm clueless on fixing this myself and cannot spend the time to learn. ___ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/environment.html - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] MaxVolBytes 1?
Foo Bar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Foo Bar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [..] I will of course label at least one new volume, but out of curiosity, when, if ever, will the single volume I have now be recycled and reused? Was it blocked because of the 1 byte limit I set yesterday and should it work during the backup tonight? (or after 16 hours, whichever comes first) I meant to say 8 hours here. Found in the documentation that it will keep trying for at most a day, at which point I presume it will be cancelled and other jobs behind it will continue, so some of my questions will be answered tomorrow. The job warned again after 16 hours, so it didn't cancel itself. I found how to update the volume from Error to Append again ('update volume') and when I manually canceled the job the volume was recycled and written to again. Now I had a new problem, due to the 1 GiB limit I set, the job blocked again during the backup. Instead of canceling it, I removed the limit in the config file, did a reload and update, which didn't do much so this time I stopped and restarted the bacula-director process. Now, using 'status dir' the job listing doesn't show any running jobs (all scheduled/waiting jobs are gone), but using 'status client' the job seems to be still running (showing the filename where it stopped due to the volume byte limit). When trying to use 'cancel' it says there are no jobs running. How do I fix this? Still remaining questions: - why does the job output say 2 files were deleted from the catalog when there were many thousands of files (in dozens of jobs) in the volume (and catalog) already? - how do I make sure such an error does not block any other backups without resorting to parallel backups and/or autolabeling? ___ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] MaxVolBytes 1?
Solved the issue of the ghost-job by running dbcheck (which fixed thousands of orphaned files/paths, probably from previous tests), then stopping/restarting the involved storage and file daemons. This list is really helpful ;) (well, I only read about 200 pages of the manual so far and saw dbcheck mentioned) Foo Bar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I stopped and restarted the bacula-director process. Now, using 'status dir' the job listing doesn't show any running jobs (all scheduled/waiting jobs are gone), but using 'status client' the job seems to be still running (showing the filename where it stopped due to the volume byte limit). When trying to use 'cancel' it says there are no jobs running. How do I fix this? ___ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/environment.html - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] MaxVolBytes 1?
Additional info: Bacula 2.2.6 on Debian 4.0, /mnt/bacula is mounted using smbfs on a W2K3 NAS gateway. --- Foo Bar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, after changing the pool settings for a volume (from 365days retention to 2, lowering the number of bytes to 1 GB max etc.) and doing an 'update volume', the output of 'llist volume' shows MaxVolBytes: 1 where it was MaxVolBytes: 0 before. I found this is due to using commas in the Pool definition, which I changed now: Pool { Name = Pool_foo_full Pool Type = Backup Volume Use Duration = 7d ## this results in MaxVolBytes 1 instead of 1 GiB: ## Maximum Volume Bytes = 1,073,741,824 Maximum Volume Bytes = 1073741824 Maximum Volume Jobs = 8 Volume Retention = 2 days Recycle Oldest Volume = yes Purge Oldest Volume = yes Recycle = yes AutoPrune = yes } However, before changing it this morning (and doing update volume) the job ran last night and the following happened: 21-Nov 01:45 foo-dir JobId 499: No prior Full backup Job record found. 21-Nov 01:45 foo-dir JobId 499: No prior or suitable Full backup found in catalog. Doing FULL backup. 21-Nov 01:45 foo-dir JobId 496: Start Backup JobId 496, Job=foo_fulltest.2007-11-21_01.45.06 21-Nov 01:45 foo-dir JobId 496: Max Volume bytes exceeded. Marking Volume Vol_foo_full as Full. 21-Nov 01:45 foo-dir JobId 496: Purging oldest volume Vol_foo_full 21-Nov 01:45 foo-dir JobId 496: 2 Files on Volume Vol_foo_full purged from catalog. 21-Nov 01:45 foo-dir JobId 496: There are no more Jobs associated with Volume Vol_foo_full. Marking it purged. 21-Nov 01:45 foo-dir JobId 496: All records pruned from Volume Vol_foo_full; marking it Purged 21-Nov 01:45 foo-dir JobId 496: Using Device NAS_mount 21-Nov 01:45 foo-sd JobId 496: User defined maximum volume capacity 1 exceeded on device NAS_mount (/mnt/bacula). 21-Nov 01:45 foo-sd JobId 496: Error: label.c:485 Unable to write device NAS_mount (/mnt/bacula): ERR= 21-Nov 01:45 foo-sd JobId 496: Marking Volume Vol_foo_full in Error in Catalog. 21-Nov 01:45 foo-sd JobId 496: Job foo_fulltest.2007-11-21_01.45.06 waiting. Cannot find any appendable volumes. Please use the label command to create a new Volume for: Storage: NAS_mount (/mnt/bacula) Pool: Pool_foo_full Media type: NAS_File The last bit is repeated after 1, 2 and 4 hours. I had a single Vol_foo_full volume which was 11 GB (lots of full/incremental backups before changing max size/duration/retention settings) which changed to 0 bytes during the above. I will of course label at least one new volume, but out of curiosity, when, if ever, will the single volume I have now be recycled and reused? Was it blocked because of the 1 byte limit I set yesterday and should it work during the backup tonight? (or after 16 hours, whichever comes first) Couple more questions: - why does the job output say 2 files were deleted from the catalog when there were many thousands of files (in dozens of jobs) in the volume (and catalog) already? - how do I change the Volume's 'Error' status to 'Append' again? (will a manual cancel job do it for example?) - how do I make sure such an error does not block any other backups without resorting to parallel backups and/or autolabeling? - if this job runs OK tonight the other jobs that are waiting behind it (scheduled to be run at the same time once a day) will presumably run, but will they run again immediately due to the schedule? Or if they take a few minutes, will passing the scheduled time mean they are not executed? ___ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] MaxVolBytes 1?
--- Alan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 21 Nov 2007, Foo Bar wrote: Additional info: Bacula 2.2.6 on Debian 4.0, /mnt/bacula is mounted using smbfs on a W2K3 NAS gateway. Why not put a bacula client directly on the NAS head? Various reasons, chief amongst which support contracts. I see this as a complication anyway, Samba does what I need without installing and configuring an extra daemon. ___ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/environment.html - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] All the problems with Bacula
--- Dan Langille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 21 Nov 2007 at 8:07, Shon Stephens wrote: Ok. This is a rant and you can remove it from the list if you want to later. I just have to vent. Bacula is incredibly complex to setup. Its taken 4 months and its still not working correctly. You are unique. Not really, I've been at it for 2 months too now, although I'm admittedly very busy so haven't exactly spent all my time on it. I have mostly problems with documentation and the learning curve, which is especially going to be a problem for those that will use it once I get it all set up (I can't get BAT to compile for example, hopefully the Debian stable package will be updated soon). I'm not going to list everything I have trouble with, I'll just keep asking questions and hopefully someone will answer, since I have not given up on Bacula yet :) ___ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] All the problems with Bacula
--- John Drescher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have mostly problems with documentation and the learning curve, which is especially going to be a problem for those that will use it once I get it all set up (I can't get BAT to compile for example, hopefully the Debian stable package will be updated soon). BAT is a very recent addition to bacula (written mostly by a single developer in his free time) so it has not gone through the kind of testing that the other parts of the system have that have been around for years. I understand and don't expect miracles, just saying that Bacula currently lacks in the ease of use department for those that can't learn it inside out. For me that means I need a GUI for some colleagues and wouldn't mind using it myself instead of the console. ___ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/environment.html - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
[Bacula-users] Can Bacula-rescue 2.2.6 Knoppix use OpenSSL?
If I sent an empty mail previously my apologies, pushed the wrong button. Since I'm working with remote machines I'm looking at the Knoppix CD with ISO image creation instead of the generic Linux one which seems to want to burn a physical disc. The documentation of bacula-rescue says not to use OpenSSL when building the Linux rescue CD, is this also the case for the Knoppix based image? If so, then since my backups are encrypted with OpenSSL, is it even possible to use a rescue CD to restore? ___ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/environment.html - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
[Bacula-users] How to use VSS to backup registry
Hi, for a Windows 2003 agent I see various lines with VSS Writer (BackupComplete) and System Writer, Event Log Writer, Registry Writer, MSDEWriter, WMI Writer, BITS Writer and COM+ REGDB Writer in them, all followed by State: 0x1 (VSS_WS_STABLE). However for FD/SD bytes written I see 0, so the entire (incremental) backup didn't backup anything. This to me indicates that VSS is available but not used. How do I explicitly use VSS to actually back up the contents of the registry or Event Log for example? And how do I restore them, are they separate special files in the backup or similar? ___ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
[Bacula-users] MaxVolBytes 1?
Hi, after changing the pool settings for a volume (from 365days retention to 2, lowering the number of bytes to 1 GB max etc.) and doing an 'update volume', the output of 'llist volume' shows MaxVolBytes: 1 where it was MaxVolBytes: 0 before. I would have expected the 1,xxx,xxx,xxx number I set in the Pool defaults instead of 1, is this as it's supposed to be? The volume is still labeled Append although it has more bytes in it than the limit I set. ___ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] How to see which volumes are in which pools?
--- Thomas Glatthor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *query Thanks (Arno as well), it's all so simple when you know where to look :) ___ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/environment.html - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] How to see which volumes are in which pools?
--- Thomas Glatthor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: list pools and list volumes will help Ah, thanks, I must be blind :) you can also add custom queries to the bconsole by editing this file: # cat /etc/bacula/bacula-dir.conf | grep QueryFile QueryFile = /etc/bacula/scripts/query.sql How do you call the SQL statements from this? ___ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/environment.html - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] How to see which volumes are in which pools?
--- Thomas Glatthor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: list pools and list volumes will help Ah, thanks, I must be blind :) you can also add custom queries to the bconsole by editing this file: # cat /etc/bacula/bacula-dir.conf | grep QueryFile QueryFile = /etc/bacula/scripts/query.sql How do you call the SQL statements from this? ___ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/environment.html - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
[Bacula-users] How to see which volumes are in which pools?
Hi, Is there a way to see which volumes are present/known about by Bacula and which Pool they belong to? Or for that matter which Pools are available, although I can see that from looking at the configuration (but other users without that privilege might not). If this involves SQL statements, how do I add it to a command that can be executed from within bconsole? ___ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/environment.html - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] How to purge files from a volume?
--- Rich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2007.10.05. 17:30, Foo Bar wrote: ... 'Remove Volume After' is of no use since I want to keep the volume, just control its contents. actually, if you would limit each volume to a single job, it would nicely achieve the goal, i think Unless you need to do a periodic full backup and many incrementals in between (like several times daily), times the number of full backup cycles you want to keep times the number of clients you need to backup. That could mean many hundreds to thousands of volumes, so pretty much useless I'm afraid. [..] i think, in tivoli there were options to keep x amount of last versions for a file that still exists and y copies of a file that has been deleted. That would be extremely useful. ___ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] multi-destination message
--- luyigui loholhlki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi i'm just a beginner in bacula :) could u please tellme what to put in the clause ## Messages { Name = standard mailcommand = /usr/sbin/bsmtp -h localhost -f \\(Bacula\) %r\ -s \message \ %r mail = [EMAIL PROTECTED] = all, !skipped console = all, !skipped, !saved append = /var/bacula/log = all, !skipped } ### i want to send an e-mail to (e.g [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Edit foo.txt to have some text, then do from the shell: /sbin/bsmtp -h your.smtp.server -f (Bacula) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -s Bacula test message [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] foo.txt This should deliver it to both [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED], if it doesn't, your.smtp.server or host.com might be filtering them (for example here I have to fake the -f entry or my host.com refuses the mail, while another recipient has no problems with nonexistent info behind -f). If they do deliver, then the comma separated list I gave you should work, doublecheck the entry. If all else fails, you might also try using a single (local) address and have a .forward with procmail actually sending it to two or more addresses. Or you could use some other mailer instead of bsmtp, although I doubt that's the problem. ___ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] multi-destination message
I wrote an answer to this but it disappeared, so here goes again: --- luyigui loholhlki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi i'm just a beginner in bacula :) could u please tellme what to put in the clause ## Messages { Name = standard mailcommand = /usr/sbin/bsmtp -h localhost -f \\(Bacula\) %r\ -s \message \ %r mail = [EMAIL PROTECTED] = all, !skipped console = all, !skipped, !saved append = /var/bacula/log = all, !skipped } ### i want to send an e-mail to (e.g [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]) I answered this one, multiple comma separated addresses worked for me. If that doesn't work for you (after checking the syntax again), you might want to try running the bsmtp util manually to try if the mail is delivered at all, and then perhaps another util like sendmail, nullmailer or whatever to check why not. I tried from a shell (and it worked): /sbin/bsmtp -h your.smtp.server -f (Bacula) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -s Bacula test message [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] foo.txt (where foo.txt contains the message body) If this doesn't work for you either your.smtp.server or host.com might be rejecting mail based on headers (what you put behind -f for example). ___ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Restoring to different location than client machine
--- John Drescher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/4/07, Foo Bar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have not been able to find this in the manual: specifying the where directive, or using the mod option during manual restore and changing the path will always restore to the client machine and then the path specified. I would like to restore to a different machine (e.g. a network mount relative to the director). How do you specify this? You specify the old client when you start the restore command from bconsole. This will then have you mark the files you want to restore. After this you issue the mod command and then change the client to the new client. Aha, I somehow missed the option to change the restore client. However, after trying that: it fails with either complaints about the path (trying to restore a file backed up from a Windows client to a Linux client) Error: Cannot create directory /mnt/bacula/restores/c:: ERR=No such file or directory) or Error: Missing private key required to decrypt encrypted backup data. The former can probably be worked around by using a Windows client to restore to, which I have not tried yet. I did run into a problem using pathnames restoring from/to the same client though: The way it's described in the manual doesn't work properly (only allows restore of single files), need to use forward slashes and lower case drive letters, so instead of File = C:\\Documents and Settings\\Administrator\\My Documents\\Bacula, File = c:/Documents and Settings/Administrator/My Documents/Bacula To fix the encryption thing I tried copying the client's .pem, .key and .cert files to /etc/bacula/ on the director (which also runs the storage daemon) but to no avail, same error message. The subdirs and file are created, but the file has size 0. It also complains about not being able to set permissions for all the subdirs and files it tries to create although all daemons have as group bacula (restoring to a Samba mount, but /mnt/bacula also has group bacula). All permissions are correct as far as I can see (writable by group etc.). Also, lsmark doesn't show files unless you are in the directory the files were marked in. Lastly, is there an option not to restore the full path, just the file? ___ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] multidestination e-mail
Hi, can you please tell what to put in bacula-dir.conf in order to send notification to different e-mails in (all) the Messages { } section(s): mail = [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] = all, !skipped this worked for me. ___ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] multidestination e-mail
--- Foo Bar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mail = [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] = all, !skipped And if you view this from a webinterface that mangles this, the at should be an at sign for both addresses. Hopefully the brackets aren't mangled now :) ___ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/environment.html - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users