Re: [Bacula-users] GUI for webmin clone

2007-06-12 Thread Michael Nelson
Stephan Wendl wrote:
  
 Not sure if anyone had noticed but OCM Webmin has a module for bacula
 configuration/management
   
I have installed it and played with it some, but somehow at least for me 
it's easier to just vi the config files.  I find the gui approach to be 
awkward and clunky in comparison.

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Re: [Bacula-users] GUI for webmin clone

2007-05-31 Thread John Drescher
On 5/31/07, Stephan Wendl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I contacted them about some of their other products and they are only
 interested in some OEM type customers
 But the bacula webmin module may be portable to webmin. At least it is a
 start

Thanks for the info. I have not tested that but in theory it can work.

John

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[Bacula-users] GUI for webmin clone

2007-05-30 Thread Stephan Wendl
 
Not sure if anyone had noticed but OCM Webmin has a module for bacula
configuration/management


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Re: [Bacula-users] GUI for webmin clone

2007-05-30 Thread John Drescher
On 5/30/07, Stephan Wendl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Not sure if anyone had noticed but OCM Webmin has a module for bacula
 configuration/management

I noticed the announcement last November but the project is a fork
that not compatible with the open source webmin  which I use on many
of my servers and at the last time I checked it appeared that all
development on this project has ceased.

John

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Re: [Bacula-users] GUI Interface Name Vote Results

2007-01-29 Thread Alan Brown
On Sat, 27 Jan 2007, Dan Langille wrote:

 humour
 As someone else pointed out, it's a shame the standard method for
 getting more information about an application involves putting the
 application name second.  Otherwise, everyone would be typing:

  bat man

 /humour

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man-Bat

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Re: [Bacula-users] GUI Interface Name Vote Results

2007-01-29 Thread Dan Langille
On 29 Jan 2007 at 20:28, Alan Brown wrote:

 On Sat, 27 Jan 2007, Dan Langille wrote:
 
  humour
  As someone else pointed out, it's a shame the standard method for
  getting more information about an application involves putting the
  application name second.  Otherwise, everyone would be typing:
 
   bat man
 
  /humour
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man-Bat
 
 Strictly for comicbook geeks. :)

H, perhaps we need a mascot specifically for bat

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[Bacula-users] GUI Interface Name Vote Results

2007-01-27 Thread Alan Gerber
Greetings and good Saturday to everyone!

The vote for the GUI interface is complete, and the results are all 
tallied up.  We had 24 name suggestions, and 32 total votes.  Here are 
the top 3 results for the vote:

bat (Bacula Admin Tool) with 54 points
badmin with 26 points
bacon with 17 points

It seems that bat was an overwhelmingly popular name, getting 14 first 
choice votes, compared to the next highest first choice votes for badmin 
and Frontula, which were tied for 4 first choice votes.

Congratulations to Peter Buschman for picking our top-rated name!

If anyone is interested in seeing the complete list of votes, email me 
off-list and I'll send them your way.

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Re: [Bacula-users] GUI Interface Name Vote Results

2007-01-27 Thread Dan Langille
On 27 Jan 2007 at 11:25, Alan Gerber wrote:

 Greetings and good Saturday to everyone!
 
 The vote for the GUI interface is complete, and the results are all 
 tallied up.  We had 24 name suggestions, and 32 total votes.  Here are 
 the top 3 results for the vote:
 
 bat (Bacula Admin Tool) with 54 points
 badmin with 26 points
 bacon with 17 points
 
 It seems that bat was an overwhelmingly popular name, getting 14 first 
 choice votes, compared to the next highest first choice votes for badmin 
 and Frontula, which were tied for 4 first choice votes.
 
 Congratulations to Peter Buschman for picking our top-rated name!

humour
As someone else pointed out, it's a shame the standard method for 
getting more information about an application involves putting the 
application name second.  Otherwise, everyone would be typing:

  bat man

/humour

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Re: [Bacula-users] GUI interface

2007-01-22 Thread Marc Schiffbauer
* Kern Sibbald schrieb am 16.01.07 um 17:10 Uhr:
 Hello,

Hi Kern,

 
 Quite awhile ago, I wrote the email that is copied at the end of this email. 
 Since then, my plans have not changed a lot, but have evolved a bit.
 I am now ready to begin the GUI project.  
 
 One of the first and most difficult problems is what should it be called?
 bconsole is already used,  some of the ideas I have come up with are:
 
  bcon
  beacon
  badmin
  ...

 * qbacula ?

... badmin is quiet goot imo



 As I am essentially still zero in using designer, if there is anyone out 
 there 
 that can do a quick programming task, please let me (and the list know).  

only one thing I remember from the times I used Qt3-Designer a bit was:

Don't forget to use the Layout, which needs spacers to make the
widgets stay where they should be, so that they behave nice when the  
window is being resized...

good luck
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Re: [Bacula-users] GUI Interface Name Voting

2007-01-21 Thread Neal Gamradt
Here is my vote:Priority  Name Number=142   
 53   16Neal Gamradt Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 12:42:56 -0500 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net; [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] Subject: [Bacula-users] GUI Interface Name Voting  Hello,  I've 
volunteered to tally up votes for the name of the GUI interface  that Kern 
described in his post to the bacula-users and bacula-devel  lists on 16 Jan 
2007.  For the operational details and concepts of this  tool, please see the 
Gmane archives at  http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.bacula.user/30694 
(beware of line  wrapping!).  You have until Friday, January 26th at 
midnight Eastern Standard Time to  cast your votes.  Only votes cast in the 
manner described below will be  counted.  We received 24 name proposals in 
total, most of them fitting a common  theme.  I've not removed any name 
brought up from the email lists from  the voting ballot - I thought it 
important that Bacula users get to have  the most voice possible in the name 
of the new program.  Voting instructions:  Voting will be very similar to 
the voting method used for Bacula project  development.  Below are the 
specific rules involved:  Very important. Please send your vote to the 
following email address:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]  If you want the list to know 
how you voted, you may copy your response  to the list.  Please don't copy 
Kern or myself directly - you MUST use  the email address above for your vote 
to be counted!  You can vote for up to 3 different names.  Your vote will be 
weighted 3  points for the first choice, 2 for the second, and 1 for the 
third.   This is to obtain data for a secondary and tertiary name should it 
turn  out that the first-place name cannot be used for whatever reason.  
Please use the table below in the email.  All you need to do is put the  name 
number you want to vote for after the appropriate priority.   Priority 1 is 
the highest, and priority 3 is the lowest.  You may only  cast one vote for 
any particular name, you can vote for less than three  names if you wish, and 
please only vote once.  If you do not vote using  the table below, then your 
vote will be discarded (it is too hard to  figure out what you *might* want). 
  Priority  Name Number = 1 2 3  A correct vote 
response could be:  Priority  Name Number = 1   
 5 2   10 3   40  Where the above means that you want 
name 5 above all others, following  by 10, and your last choice, 40.  If you 
have any questions about the voting, please email the list  instead of me 
directly.  The names and numbers list are as follows (best viewed with a 
monospace  font, and apologies if I've missed anyone's suggestion!):  Number 
  Name = 1bcon 2beacon 3badmin 4   
 bgui 5Bacula-Gui (with alternate capitalization bacula-gui) 6  
  VanHelsing 7bat (Bacula Admin Tool) 8bacon 9
badminton (Bacula ADMIN Tool Nouveau) 10   bac (Bacula Admin Console) 11  
 Garlic 12   Batula 13   Bagula (Bacula GUi [L] Admin) 14   
Bagui (Bacula Admin GUI) 15   Bacgui (Bacula Admin Console GUI) 16   
bacula-admin-gui 17   barlic (Bacula Resource Locator InterfaCe) 18   
bob (Backup Orchestrator for Bacula) 19   Frontula 20   baculart 21  
 becon 22   qt-console 23   bqt 24   becuty  Happy 
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[Bacula-users] GUI Interface Name Voting

2007-01-20 Thread Alan Gerber
Hello,

I've volunteered to tally up votes for the name of the GUI interface 
that Kern described in his post to the bacula-users and bacula-devel 
lists on 16 Jan 2007.  For the operational details and concepts of this 
tool, please see the Gmane archives at 
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.bacula.user/30694 (beware of line 
wrapping!).

You have until Friday, January 26th at midnight Eastern Standard Time to 
cast your votes.  Only votes cast in the manner described below will be 
counted.

We received 24 name proposals in total, most of them fitting a common 
theme.  I've not removed any name brought up from the email lists from 
the voting ballot - I thought it important that Bacula users get to have 
the most voice possible in the name of the new program.

Voting instructions:

Voting will be very similar to the voting method used for Bacula project 
development.  Below are the specific rules involved:

Very important. Please send your vote to the following email address:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

If you want the list to know how you voted, you may copy your response 
to the list.  Please don't copy Kern or myself directly - you MUST use 
the email address above for your vote to be counted!

You can vote for up to 3 different names.  Your vote will be weighted 3 
points for the first choice, 2 for the second, and 1 for the third.  
This is to obtain data for a secondary and tertiary name should it turn 
out that the first-place name cannot be used for whatever reason.

Please use the table below in the email.  All you need to do is put the 
name number you want to vote for after the appropriate priority.  
Priority 1 is the highest, and priority 3 is the lowest.  You may only 
cast one vote for any particular name, you can vote for less than three 
names if you wish, and please only vote once.  If you do not vote using 
the table below, then your vote will be discarded (it is too hard to 
figure out what you *might* want).


Priority  Name Number
=
1
2
3

A correct vote response could be:

Priority  Name Number
=
15
2   10
3   40

Where the above means that you want name 5 above all others, following 
by 10, and your last choice, 40.

If you have any questions about the voting, please email the list 
instead of me directly.

The names and numbers list are as follows (best viewed with a monospace 
font, and apologies if I've missed anyone's suggestion!):

Number   Name
=
1bcon
2beacon
3badmin
4bgui
5Bacula-Gui (with alternate capitalization bacula-gui)
6VanHelsing
7bat (Bacula Admin Tool)
8bacon
9badminton (Bacula ADMIN Tool Nouveau)
10   bac (Bacula Admin Console)
11   Garlic
12   Batula
13   Bagula (Bacula GUi [L] Admin)
14   Bagui (Bacula Admin GUI)
15   Bacgui (Bacula Admin Console GUI)
16   bacula-admin-gui
17   barlic (Bacula Resource Locator InterfaCe)
18   bob (Backup Orchestrator for Bacula)
19   Frontula
20   baculart
21   becon
22   qt-console
23   bqt
24   becuty

Happy voting!

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Re: [Bacula-users] GUI interface

2007-01-17 Thread Dan Langille
On 17 Jan 2007 at 14:16, MaxxAtWork wrote:

 On 1/16/07, James Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Tuesday 16 January 2007 12:20, Kern Sibbald wrote:
On Tuesday 16 January 2007 19:32, Peter Buschman wrote:
 Bacula Admin Tool (B.A.T)
   
Yes, that is by far the best one I have heard.  :-)
  
   Amazingly, apt-file search bin/bat doesn't return any conflicts for
  that
   name.
   Also, bac (Bacula Admin Console) has no conflicts.
 
  That's a very good idea checking that... nothing worse than thinking up
  a great name and finding that it's already 'taken'.
 
 
 Apart of checking e.g. in http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages
 is there some other way (more generic than only Debian distro)
 to check whether a name has been already taken for a application?
 
 Just curious... not that I'm really expecting to find it :-)

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Re: [Bacula-users] GUI interface

2007-01-17 Thread Davide Bolcioni
On Tuesday 16 January 2007 5:10 pm, Kern Sibbald wrote:

 One of the first and most difficult problems is what should it be called?
 bconsole is already used,  some of the ideas I have come up with are:

  bcon
  beacon
  badmin
  ...

The names above, and others such as bat and bacon, IMHO are too short for a 
tool which is not used frequently and, by its nature, might end up being 
launched mostly from a menu. Something like

  bacula-gui
  bacula-admin-gui

would be also be easy for shell users, provided tab completion is being used; 
mixed case would be problematic, however, especially at the beginning.

 badmin is a GUI project to create a Bacula Administrative Console.

 This console should be capable of the following things:

 - graphical creation of FileSets

How would it deal with inclusion of lists ? The current bacula syntax is 
conveniently flexible in this regard.

Just my $0.02,
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[Bacula-users] GUI interface

2007-01-17 Thread Jens R . Victorin
 Bacula Admin Tool (B.A.T)
   Also, bac (Bacula Admin Console) has no conflicts.
  Bagula (BAcula GUi something starting with L Admin)
  Bagui (Bacula Admin GUI)... maybe pronounced as Bag-why
  Bacgui (Bacula Admin Console GUI)

How about barlic - BAcula Resource Locator InterfaCe?

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Re: [Bacula-users] GUI interface

2007-01-17 Thread DAve
Kern Sibbald wrote:
 Hello,
 
 badmin is a GUI project to create a Bacula Administrative Console.
 
 This console should be capable of the following things:
 
 - be a Graphical interface
 - Include all the features of:
- bconsole
- gnome-console
- wx-console
- bacula-web
- bweb
- brestore
- jbacula
- tray-monitor
 - tree selection of files for restore (like wx-console)
 - tree selection of files for backup
 - graphical creation of FileSets
 - resource display/modification
 - catalog display/modification
 - graphical report generation (like bacula-web, bweb)
 - programmable graphical report generation
 - scriptable
 - create/modify configuration files
 - remote client upgrade
 - software update/problem/patch notification
 - software patch installation
 - monitor daemons
 

Maybe I am out of line here as I am not on the developer list, in fact 
still a new Bacula user. But I am curious what the method will be for 
tree selection of files for backup and graphical creation of FileSets?

The reason I ask is that we have had much discussion here about wanting 
a graphical application for running on the fd side so a user with access 
could manage the backup for that fd machine only. Such as our 
development department, right now they send changes to the FileSet to 
me, with a Bacula GUI they might be able to manage their own backups.

The one holdup was that Bacula maintains it's FileSet information in the 
bacula-dir.conf on the dir. How will the GUI manage this information? I 
would not want someone on development-fd to cause a config reload on 
director-dir at will.

Would it be possible to store FileSet information in the DB? Possibly 
the bacula-dir could read the next client job from the bacula-dir.conf, 
and fetch the FileSet from SQL.

Job {
Name = newjob
JobDefs = newjob
SQLFileSet = newjob
Write Bootstrap = /data/backups/newjob.bsr
}


Is this a feature request?

Thanks,

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Re: [Bacula-users] GUI interface

2007-01-17 Thread MaxxAtWork
On 1/17/07, Dan Langille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 17 Jan 2007 at 14:16, MaxxAtWork wrote:


  Apart of checking e.g. in http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages
  is there some other way (more generic than only Debian distro)
  to check whether a name has been already taken for a application?
 
  Just curious... not that I'm really expecting to find it :-)

 Freshmeat.net

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Re: [Bacula-users] GUI interface

2007-01-17 Thread Kern Sibbald
On Wednesday 17 January 2007 14:27, Davide Bolcioni wrote:
 On Tuesday 16 January 2007 5:10 pm, Kern Sibbald wrote:
 
  One of the first and most difficult problems is what should it be called?
  bconsole is already used,  some of the ideas I have come up with are:
 
   bcon
   beacon
   badmin
   ...
 
 The names above, and others such as bat and bacon, IMHO are too short for a 
 tool which is not used frequently and, by its nature, might end up being 
 launched mostly from a menu. 

Hey, oh.  I can admit that it might be launched from a menu, but on my system, 

  ./gconsole

it probably the most frequently issued command.

 Something like 
 
   bacula-gui
   bacula-admin-gui
 
 would be also be easy for shell users, provided tab completion is being 
used; 
 mixed case would be problematic, however, especially at the beginning.
 
  badmin is a GUI project to create a Bacula Administrative Console.
 
  This console should be capable of the following things:
 
  - graphical creation of FileSets
 
 How would it deal with inclusion of lists ? The current bacula syntax is 
 conveniently flexible in this regard.

Yes, but what *I* would like is a tree like thing that shows me what files I 
have included on any particular system.  I can then simply check directories 
at the the top of the tree and get everything or walk down the tree and 
include/exclude what I want.  This might not be one of the first features, 
but once we have a nice graphical interface, all sorts of standard things 
like this that already exist with other commercial backup products in the 
Microsoft world (well some have it on Unix too) will become possible in the 
Bacula world.

 
 Just my $0.02,
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Re: [Bacula-users] GUI interface

2007-01-17 Thread Kern Sibbald
On Wednesday 17 January 2007 15:10, DAve wrote:
 Kern Sibbald wrote:
  Hello,
  
  badmin is a GUI project to create a Bacula Administrative Console.
  
  This console should be capable of the following things:
  
  - be a Graphical interface
  - Include all the features of:
 - bconsole
 - gnome-console
 - wx-console
 - bacula-web
 - bweb
 - brestore
 - jbacula
 - tray-monitor
  - tree selection of files for restore (like wx-console)
  - tree selection of files for backup
  - graphical creation of FileSets
  - resource display/modification
  - catalog display/modification
  - graphical report generation (like bacula-web, bweb)
  - programmable graphical report generation
  - scriptable
  - create/modify configuration files
  - remote client upgrade
  - software update/problem/patch notification
  - software patch installation
  - monitor daemons
  
 
 Maybe I am out of line here as I am not on the developer list, in fact 
 still a new Bacula user. But I am curious what the method will be for 
 tree selection of files for backup and graphical creation of FileSets?
 
 The reason I ask is that we have had much discussion here about wanting 
 a graphical application for running on the fd side so a user with access 
 could manage the backup for that fd machine only. Such as our 
 development department, right now they send changes to the FileSet to 
 me, with a Bacula GUI they might be able to manage their own backups.
 
 The one holdup was that Bacula maintains it's FileSet information in the 
 bacula-dir.conf on the dir. 

This will continue to be the case at least in the foreseeable future.

 How will the GUI manage this information? 

 I  would not want someone on development-fd to cause a config reload on 
 director-dir at will.

This is up to you to manage.  For the foreseeable future Bacula will remain a 
central control model.

 
 Would it be possible to store FileSet information in the DB? Possibly 
 the bacula-dir could read the next client job from the bacula-dir.conf, 
 and fetch the FileSet from SQL.
 
 Job {
 Name = newjob
 JobDefs = newjob
 SQLFileSet = newjob
 Write Bootstrap = /data/backups/newjob.bsr
 }
 
 
 Is this a feature request?

You can make the feature request, but at the moment, I'm not planning to add 
any more config data to the DB.  There are already enough problems in that 
regard concerning disaster recovery without making it worse.

There are other solutions to the problem that we may be able to implement, but 
we first need to get the project off the ground.  There will be *plenty* of 
time to be concerned about functionality once the basic framework is working 
so please go ahead and discuss these issues, and I will take note, but not 
respond to all of them at the current time other than to say that in general, 
I would like this adminstratrative console to have as much functionality as 
possible, while at the same time, I reserve the perogative to review the 
exact details of the implementation to keep it within the current (though 
evolving) Bacula philosophy.

 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: [Bacula-users] GUI interface

2007-01-17 Thread Alan Brown
On Wed, 17 Jan 2007, Kern Sibbald wrote:

 Yes, but what *I* would like is a tree like thing that shows me what files I
 have included on any particular system.

So would I - the Legato Networker (Aka Solstice backup) interface would be 
a good starting point in terms of ease of operation.

 I can then simply check directories at the the top of the tree and get 
 everything or walk down the tree and include/exclude what I want.

Smilarly for restores, graphical representation of the restoration tree.

When restoring an individual file, indicating multiple file versions is 
best done using a deck of cards style icon to show multiple dates/sizes 
are available.

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Re: [Bacula-users] GUI interface

2007-01-17 Thread Kern Sibbald
On Wednesday 17 January 2007 16:18, Alan Brown wrote:
 On Wed, 17 Jan 2007, Kern Sibbald wrote:
 
  Yes, but what *I* would like is a tree like thing that shows me what files 
I
  have included on any particular system.
 
 So would I - the Legato Networker (Aka Solstice backup) interface would be 
 a good starting point in terms of ease of operation.

I'm trying to implement this without looking at any specific existing 
implementation.  On the other hand, specific suggestions are welcome.
As the project starts and advances, you will be able to easily see the 
interface, and if we do it all with Designer, you can modify the layout of 
the widgets quite easily if you wish them in a different position. We will 
even have plugin modules that are compiled on the fly for those interfaces 
that are rarely used.


 
  I can then simply check directories at the the top of the tree and get 
  everything or walk down the tree and include/exclude what I want.
 
 Smilarly for restores, graphical representation of the restoration tree.
 
 When restoring an individual file, indicating multiple file versions is 
 best done using a deck of cards style icon to show multiple dates/sizes 
 are available.

I am zero with creating icons, so this might be a good place where a number of 
people could contribute, and where you can easily customize it yourself 
(simply change the icon file).

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[Bacula-users] GUI Interface Name Voting

2007-01-17 Thread Alan Gerber
Hello,

I've volunteered to tally up votes for the name of the GUI interface 
that Kern described in his post to the bacula-users and bacula-devel 
lists on 16 Jan 2007.  For the operational details and concepts of this 
tool, please see the Gmane archives at 
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.bacula.user/30694 (beware of line 
wrapping!).

For the purposes of this vote, I'll accept any name proposed through 
either the bacula-devel or bacula-users lists through Friday, January 
19th at midnight Eastern Standard Time.  I will collect all of the names 
and send out a follow-up email sometime on Saturday, January 20th that 
lists the names proposed.  You will then have until Friday, January 26th 
at midnight Eastern Standard Time to cast your votes.  Only votes cast 
in the manner described below will be counted.

For name proposals, only names that are not currently used in a 
backup-related fashion will be considered, so please take the time to do 
a quick Google search to see if your proposed name is already in use.  
Doing so will save not only my time but the time of many others on the 
two lists.

Voting instructions:

Voting will be very similar to the voting method used for Bacula project 
development.  Below are the specific rules involved:

Very important. Please send your vote to the following email address:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

If you want the list to know how you voted, you may copy your response 
to the list.  Please don't copy Kern or myself directly - you MUST use 
the email address above for your vote to be counted!

You can vote for up to 3 different names.  Your vote will be weighted 3 
points for the first choice, 2 for the second, and 1 for the third.  
This is to obtain data for a secondary and tertiary name should it turn 
out that the first-place name cannot be used for whatever reason.

Please use the table below in the email.  All you need to do is put the 
name number you want to vote for after the appropriate priority.  
Priority 1 is the highest, and priority 3 is the lowest.  You may only 
cast one vote for any particular name, you can vote for less than three 
names if you wish, and please only vote once.  If you do not vote using 
the table below, then your vote will be discarded (it is too hard to 
figure out what you *might* want).


Priority  Name Number
=
 1
 2
 3

A correct vote response could be:

Priority  Name Number
=
 15
 2   10
 3   40


Where the above means that you want name 5 above all others, following 
by 10, and your last choice, 40.

I will post a follow-up email containing the names proposed and their 
corresponding numbers, as well as a re-hash of these rules, on January 
20th.

Good luck to all submitters!

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Re: [Bacula-users] GUI interface

2007-01-17 Thread Michael Nelson
You guys call it whatever you want, I'm aliasing whatever it is to bat.


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Re: [Bacula-users] GUI interface

2007-01-17 Thread Kern Sibbald
On Wednesday 17 January 2007 19:46, Michael Nelson wrote:
 You guys call it whatever you want, I'm aliasing whatever it is to bat.

I'm happy to see that you have a solution, and it gave me a good laugh :-).

Well for the moment it is bat, but that may change according to the vote.



 
 
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Re: [Bacula-users] GUI interface

2007-01-17 Thread DAve
Kern Sibbald wrote:
 On Wednesday 17 January 2007 15:10, DAve wrote:
 Kern Sibbald wrote:
 Hello,

 badmin is a GUI project to create a Bacula Administrative Console.

 This console should be capable of the following things:

 - be a Graphical interface
 - Include all the features of:
- bconsole
- gnome-console
- wx-console
- bacula-web
- bweb
- brestore
- jbacula
- tray-monitor
 - tree selection of files for restore (like wx-console)
 - tree selection of files for backup
 - graphical creation of FileSets
 - resource display/modification
 - catalog display/modification
 - graphical report generation (like bacula-web, bweb)
 - programmable graphical report generation
 - scriptable
 - create/modify configuration files
 - remote client upgrade
 - software update/problem/patch notification
 - software patch installation
 - monitor daemons

 Maybe I am out of line here as I am not on the developer list, in fact 
 still a new Bacula user. But I am curious what the method will be for 
 tree selection of files for backup and graphical creation of FileSets?

 The reason I ask is that we have had much discussion here about wanting 
 a graphical application for running on the fd side so a user with access 
 could manage the backup for that fd machine only. Such as our 
 development department, right now they send changes to the FileSet to 
 me, with a Bacula GUI they might be able to manage their own backups.

 The one holdup was that Bacula maintains it's FileSet information in the 
 bacula-dir.conf on the dir. 
 
 This will continue to be the case at least in the foreseeable future.
 
 How will the GUI manage this information? 
 
 I  would not want someone on development-fd to cause a config reload on 
 director-dir at will.
 
 This is up to you to manage.  For the foreseeable future Bacula will remain a 
 central control model.
 
 Would it be possible to store FileSet information in the DB? Possibly 
 the bacula-dir could read the next client job from the bacula-dir.conf, 
 and fetch the FileSet from SQL.

 Job {
 Name = newjob
 JobDefs = newjob
 SQLFileSet = newjob
 Write Bootstrap = /data/backups/newjob.bsr
 }


 Is this a feature request?
 
 You can make the feature request, but at the moment, I'm not planning to add 
 any more config data to the DB.  There are already enough problems in that 
 regard concerning disaster recovery without making it worse.
 
 There are other solutions to the problem that we may be able to implement, 
 but 
 we first need to get the project off the ground.  There will be *plenty* of 
 time to be concerned about functionality once the basic framework is working 
 so please go ahead and discuss these issues, and I will take note, but not 
 respond to all of them at the current time other than to say that in general, 
 I would like this adminstratrative console to have as much functionality as 
 possible, while at the same time, I reserve the perogative to review the 
 exact details of the implementation to keep it within the current (though 
 evolving) Bacula philosophy.
 

Understood, thanks for the reply.

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Re: [Bacula-users] GUI interface

2007-01-17 Thread Michael Nelson
On Wed, January 17, 2007 11:57 am, Kern Sibbald wrote:

 Well for the moment it is bat, but that may change according to the
 vote.

alias bat=bat

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Re: [Bacula-users] GUI interface

2007-01-17 Thread Joshua Colson
On Wed, 2007-01-17 at 09:10 -0500, DAve wrote:
 The reason I ask is that we have had much discussion here about wanting 
 a graphical application for running on the fd side so a user with access 
 could manage the backup for that fd machine only. Such as our 
 development department, right now they send changes to the FileSet to 
 me, with a Bacula GUI they might be able to manage their own backups.
 
 The one holdup was that Bacula maintains it's FileSet information in the 
 bacula-dir.conf on the dir. How will the GUI manage this information? I 
 would not want someone on development-fd to cause a config reload on 
 director-dir at will.

I don't know if it will help solve your problem, but according to the
Bacula manual regarding FileSets
(http://www.bacula.org/rel-manual/FileSet_Resource.html) you can store
the include list on the client (and therefore the owner of the client
system can modify it). You can do so with a FileSet like:

FileSet {
  Name = ListOnClient;
  Include {
Options { ... }
File = \\/etc/bacula/include-list;
  }
}

The '' in the File directive tells bacula to read the list from a file
and preceding the '' with a backslash '\' (in this case two because you
need a literal backslash in the quoted string) causes bacula to read the
list from the client machine.

I've not used this functionality because I'm just getting started with
bacula but I intend to use it extensively if it proves to work well.

I hope that helps.

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Re: [Bacula-users] GUI interface

2007-01-17 Thread DAve
Joshua Colson wrote:
 On Wed, 2007-01-17 at 09:10 -0500, DAve wrote:
 The reason I ask is that we have had much discussion here about wanting 
 a graphical application for running on the fd side so a user with access 
 could manage the backup for that fd machine only. Such as our 
 development department, right now they send changes to the FileSet to 
 me, with a Bacula GUI they might be able to manage their own backups.

 The one holdup was that Bacula maintains it's FileSet information in the 
 bacula-dir.conf on the dir. How will the GUI manage this information? I 
 would not want someone on development-fd to cause a config reload on 
 director-dir at will.
 
 I don't know if it will help solve your problem, but according to the
 Bacula manual regarding FileSets
 (http://www.bacula.org/rel-manual/FileSet_Resource.html) you can store
 the include list on the client (and therefore the owner of the client
 system can modify it). You can do so with a FileSet like:
 
 FileSet {
   Name = ListOnClient;
   Include {
 Options { ... }
 File = \\/etc/bacula/include-list;
   }
 }
 
 The '' in the File directive tells bacula to read the list from a file
 and preceding the '' with a backslash '\' (in this case two because you
 need a literal backslash in the quoted string) causes bacula to read the
 list from the client machine.
 
 I've not used this functionality because I'm just getting started with
 bacula but I intend to use it extensively if it proves to work well.
 
 I hope that helps.

Well, Windows Administrator and Unix Root access require a trip through 
the tier 3 tech support desks blindfolded, naked, and riding a goat. 
Permission to edit a text file is harder to achieve. Experience has 
taught me to never allow such if I want my pager to stay silent ;^)

We are looking into testing with the pipe though to possibly gather the 
FileSet from another resource.

Good thought though, I had passed over that option earlier.

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Re: [Bacula-users] GUI interface

2007-01-17 Thread Michael Brennen
On Wednesday 17 January 2007 17:39, Geoff Tolley wrote:

 Frontula anyone?

Or 'baculart'?

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Re: [Bacula-users] GUI interface

2007-01-17 Thread James Harper
 
 Frontula anyone?
 

I like that... Frontula - the Front End to Bacula.

It's weird though... after staring at the word 'Frontula', I suddenly
can't be sure if 'Front' is a real word, even though my spell checker
says it is :)

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[Bacula-users] GUI interface

2007-01-16 Thread Kern Sibbald
Hello,

Quite awhile ago, I wrote the email that is copied at the end of this email. 
Since then, my plans have not changed a lot, but have evolved a bit.
I am now ready to begin the GUI project.  

One of the first and most difficult problems is what should it be called?
bconsole is already used,  some of the ideas I have come up with are:

 bcon
 beacon
 badmin
 ...

If anyone has a good idea for a name, please let me know.  My current 
preference is badmin, pronounced either bad-min or be-admin.

One change from my ideas below is that I am now implementing the GUI in C++ 
and Qt4, all the other points indicated below remain valid.

In addition to what is mentioned there, I believe that badmin, or whatever its 
name is, should have at least the following features:

badmin is a GUI project to create a Bacula Administrative Console.

This console should be capable of the following things:

- be a Graphical interface
- Include all the features of:
   - bconsole
   - gnome-console
   - wx-console
   - bacula-web
   - bweb
   - brestore
   - jbacula
   - tray-monitor
- tree selection of files for restore (like wx-console)
- tree selection of files for backup
- graphical creation of FileSets
- resource display/modification
- catalog display/modification
- graphical report generation (like bacula-web, bweb)
- programmable graphical report generation
- scriptable
- create/modify configuration files
- remote client upgrade
- software update/problem/patch notification
- software patch installation
- monitor daemons

My current thinking is that it will be laid out a bit like gnome-console is. 
It will be a main window with a set of menus and an icon bar. Below that will 
be the main console window, and blow that will be a status line and a command 
input line.

However, to the left will be a tree view window consisting of a tree of 
small icons representing all the daemons that the program can access (e.g. 
the directors, SDs, and FDs). As you click on these items, the right console 
pane will be replaced by the window that corresponds to what item you clicked 
on. That is the right window will be a widget stack that can change. 
Depending on what you choose, the right menu may be a dialog, tabbed widgets, 
or any other appropriate window.  It will probably even be dockable or have 
the ability to open in a separate window.  

Among the items in the left window will be things such as:
- Console
- Run Jobs
  - Backup
  - Restore
  - Migrate
...
- Reports
  - bweb like
- Catalog
- Configure
- Monitor
...

This kind of layout was previously suggested by someone, and to a certain 
extent, it is implemented in the pygtk-console. The difference is that in 
that console, clicking on the items in the left pane brought up new tabs in 
the right window, and my concept is that it will bring up a whole new view in 
the right window (StackedWidgets), and that in some, possibly all, the right 
window could be made into a window that remains open on the screen (i.e. you 
may want to monitor at the same time you are starting jobs).

Any help with this project would be appreciated, because once we have the 
basic window layout, adding new items and new views into Bacula will be 
sub-projects that are essentially independent of each other.

As I am essentially still zero in using designer, if there is anyone out there 
that can do a quick programming task, please let me (and the list know).  
What I need to help speed up this project is a Qt4 project file using qmake 
and designer that has the main window defined via designer in the way I 
mentioned.  Once the basic skeleton (badmin.ui + badmin.pro + a couple of 
skeleton c++ files) is implemented, I think it will be relatively fast to 
connect it to Bacula and begin the real work.  This is something I can do, 
but getting there is a rather steep learning curve (designer, forms, slots, 
Qt4 classes/API, subclassing, ...).

Best regards,

Kern


On Saturday 30 September 2006 16:47, Kern Sibbald wrote:
 Hello,
 
 As I previously wrote, working on a GUI solution is now one of my top 
 priorities.  We have discussed the problems and possible solutions for 
 getting a good GUI interface for Bacula a number of times. I've thought 
about 
 all the possibilities, and there are a lot of them.  Previously, I had been 
 leaning more towards a Python Qt interface, because Python is a nice 
language 
 and easy to program.  Unfortunately, I haven't found any really good IDE 
 (integrated development environment) for it, nor have I found any good 
 documentation on the Python Qt interface.  So I have abandoned this idea.
 
 Another idea that I have abandoned is developing a web application. There 
are 
 two reasons: 1. I find no user interface design tools for web based 
 applications.  2. web applications are very problematic for security minded 
 people such as myself.  I run a web server, but there is no way in the world 
 that I would run a Bacula web application on my web server.  In the 

Re: [Bacula-users] GUI interface

2007-01-16 Thread Mike
On Tue, 16 Jan 2007, Kern Sibbald might have said:

 Hello,
 
 Quite awhile ago, I wrote the email that is copied at the end of this email. 
 Since then, my plans have not changed a lot, but have evolved a bit.
 I am now ready to begin the GUI project.  
 
 One of the first and most difficult problems is what should it be called?
 bconsole is already used,  some of the ideas I have come up with are:
 
  bcon
  beacon
  badmin
  ...

bgui?

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Re: [Bacula-users] GUI interface

2007-01-16 Thread Alan Brown

How about simply Bacula-Gui ?

The days of arcane filenames are (hopefully) long past...


VanHelsing did spring to mind - A tool to tame Bacula :)



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Re: [Bacula-users] GUI interface

2007-01-16 Thread Christopher Rasch-Olsen Raa
Tirsdag 16 januar 2007 19:32, skrev Peter Buschman:
 Bacula Admin Tool (B.A.T)

 # bat

Ok, that's just cute. :p

 At 17:37 16.1.2007, Mike wrote:
 On Tue, 16 Jan 2007, Kern Sibbald might have said:
   Hello,
  
   Quite awhile ago, I wrote the email that is copied at the end of
 
  this email.
 
   Since then, my plans have not changed a lot, but have evolved a bit.
   I am now ready to begin the GUI project.
  
   One of the first and most difficult problems is what should it be
   called? bconsole is already used,  some of the ideas I have come up
   with are:
  
bcon
beacon
badmin
...
 
 bgui?
 
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Re: [Bacula-users] GUI interface

2007-01-16 Thread Michael Nelson
On Tue, January 16, 2007 10:32 am, Peter Buschman wrote:

 Bacula Admin Tool (B.A.T)

 # bat

Another vote for bat.  It fits the whole motif, too.

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Re: [Bacula-users] GUI interface

2007-01-16 Thread Peter Buschman

Bacula Admin Tool (B.A.T)

# bat

At 17:37 16.1.2007, Mike wrote:
On Tue, 16 Jan 2007, Kern Sibbald might have said:

  Hello,
 
  Quite awhile ago, I wrote the email that is copied at the end of 
 this email.
  Since then, my plans have not changed a lot, but have evolved a bit.
  I am now ready to begin the GUI project.
 
  One of the first and most difficult problems is what should it be called?
  bconsole is already used,  some of the ideas I have come up with are:
 
   bcon
   beacon
   badmin
   ...

bgui?

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Re: [Bacula-users] GUI interface

2007-01-16 Thread mark . bergman


In the message dated: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 19:35:14 +0100,
The pithy ruminations from Christopher Rasch-Olsen Raa on 
Re: [Bacula-users] GUI interface were:
= Tirsdag 16 januar 2007 19:32, skrev Peter Buschman:
=  Bacula Admin Tool (B.A.T)

There's always:

Bacula ADMIN TOol (Nouveau)

or:
badminton

Yes, it's too silly, and too easy to spell incorrectly.

= 
=  # bat
= 
= Ok, that's just cute. :p

Yep.

Mark

= 
=  At 17:37 16.1.2007, Mike wrote:
=  On Tue, 16 Jan 2007, Kern Sibbald might have said:
=Hello,
=   
=Quite awhile ago, I wrote the email that is copied at the end of
=  
=   this email.
=  
=Since then, my plans have not changed a lot, but have evolved a bit.
=I am now ready to begin the GUI project.
=   
=One of the first and most difficult problems is what should it be
=called? bconsole is already used,  some of the ideas I have come up
=with are:
=   
= bcon
= beacon
= badmin
= ...
=  
=  bgui?
=  
= 
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Re: [Bacula-users] GUI interface

2007-01-16 Thread Kern Sibbald
On Tuesday 16 January 2007 18:05, Alan Brown wrote:
 
 How about simply Bacula-Gui ?

Too hard for me to type.

 
 The days of arcane filenames are (hopefully) long past...
 
 
 VanHelsing did spring to mind - A tool to tame Bacula :)
 
 

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Re: [Bacula-users] GUI interface

2007-01-16 Thread Frank
...and the documentation would be.

   B.A.T  MAN

Sorry... couldn't resist.

Michael Nelson wrote:
 On Tue, January 16, 2007 10:32 am, Peter Buschman wrote:
   
 Bacula Admin Tool (B.A.T)

 # bat
 

 Another vote for bat.  It fits the whole motif, too.

   


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Re: [Bacula-users] GUI interface

2007-01-16 Thread Masopust, Christian

Hello Kern,

is it also planned to have different types of user-rights for that
console? e.g. one user can only run backups or restores, another one 
can do anything within the gui...

Thanks,
christian

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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
 Of Kern Sibbald
 Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 5:11 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: bacula-users
 Subject: [Bacula-users] GUI interface
 
 Hello,
 
 Quite awhile ago, I wrote the email that is copied at the end 
 of this email. 
 Since then, my plans have not changed a lot, but have evolved a bit.
 I am now ready to begin the GUI project.  
 
 One of the first and most difficult problems is what should 
 it be called?
 bconsole is already used,  some of the ideas I have come up with are:
 
  bcon
  beacon
  badmin
  ...
 
 If anyone has a good idea for a name, please let me know.  My current 
 preference is badmin, pronounced either bad-min or be-admin.
 
 One change from my ideas below is that I am now implementing 
 the GUI in C++ 
 and Qt4, all the other points indicated below remain valid.
 
 In addition to what is mentioned there, I believe that 
 badmin, or whatever its 
 name is, should have at least the following features:
 
 badmin is a GUI project to create a Bacula Administrative Console.
 
 This console should be capable of the following things:
 
 - be a Graphical interface
 - Include all the features of:
- bconsole
- gnome-console
- wx-console
- bacula-web
- bweb
- brestore
- jbacula
- tray-monitor
 - tree selection of files for restore (like wx-console)
 - tree selection of files for backup
 - graphical creation of FileSets
 - resource display/modification
 - catalog display/modification
 - graphical report generation (like bacula-web, bweb)
 - programmable graphical report generation
 - scriptable
 - create/modify configuration files
 - remote client upgrade
 - software update/problem/patch notification
 - software patch installation
 - monitor daemons
 
 My current thinking is that it will be laid out a bit like 
 gnome-console is. 
 It will be a main window with a set of menus and an icon bar. 
 Below that will 
 be the main console window, and blow that will be a status 
 line and a command 
 input line.
 
 However, to the left will be a tree view window consisting 
 of a tree of 
 small icons representing all the daemons that the program can 
 access (e.g. 
 the directors, SDs, and FDs). As you click on these items, 
 the right console 
 pane will be replaced by the window that corresponds to what 
 item you clicked 
 on. That is the right window will be a widget stack that can change. 
 Depending on what you choose, the right menu may be a dialog, 
 tabbed widgets, 
 or any other appropriate window.  It will probably even be 
 dockable or have 
 the ability to open in a separate window.  
 
 Among the items in the left window will be things such as:
 - Console
 - Run Jobs
   - Backup
   - Restore
   - Migrate
 ...
 - Reports
   - bweb like
 - Catalog
 - Configure
 - Monitor
 ...
 
 This kind of layout was previously suggested by someone, and 
 to a certain 
 extent, it is implemented in the pygtk-console. The 
 difference is that in 
 that console, clicking on the items in the left pane brought 
 up new tabs in 
 the right window, and my concept is that it will bring up a 
 whole new view in 
 the right window (StackedWidgets), and that in some, possibly 
 all, the right 
 window could be made into a window that remains open on the 
 screen (i.e. you 
 may want to monitor at the same time you are starting jobs).
 
 Any help with this project would be appreciated, because once 
 we have the 
 basic window layout, adding new items and new views into 
 Bacula will be 
 sub-projects that are essentially independent of each other.
 
 As I am essentially still zero in using designer, if there is 
 anyone out there 
 that can do a quick programming task, please let me (and the 
 list know).  
 What I need to help speed up this project is a Qt4 project 
 file using qmake 
 and designer that has the main window defined via designer in 
 the way I 
 mentioned.  Once the basic skeleton (badmin.ui + badmin.pro + 
 a couple of 
 skeleton c++ files) is implemented, I think it will be 
 relatively fast to 
 connect it to Bacula and begin the real work.  This is 
 something I can do, 
 but getting there is a rather steep learning curve (designer, 
 forms, slots, 
 Qt4 classes/API, subclassing, ...).
 
 Best regards,
 
 Kern
 
 
 On Saturday 30 September 2006 16:47, Kern Sibbald wrote:
  Hello,
  
  As I previously wrote, working on a GUI solution is now one 
 of my top 
  priorities.  We have discussed the problems and possible 
 solutions for 
  getting a good GUI interface for Bacula a number of times

Re: [Bacula-users] GUI interface

2007-01-16 Thread Kern Sibbald
On Wednesday 17 January 2007 07:44, Masopust, Christian wrote:
 
 Hello Kern,
 
 is it also planned to have different types of user-rights for that
 console? e.g. one user can only run backups or restores, another one 
 can do anything within the gui...

As with any console that connects, it will be subject to Bacula access 
control lists.  It might be possible to implement some sort of access control 
or password to the console that could select among different connections to 
the Director. In any case, that is currently possible by having multiple 
console conf files, so it is not a priority item.

 
 Thanks,
 christian
 
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to the darkside. 
 
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  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
  Of Kern Sibbald
  Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 5:11 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: bacula-users
  Subject: [Bacula-users] GUI interface
  
  Hello,
  
  Quite awhile ago, I wrote the email that is copied at the end 
  of this email. 
  Since then, my plans have not changed a lot, but have evolved a bit.
  I am now ready to begin the GUI project.  
  
  One of the first and most difficult problems is what should 
  it be called?
  bconsole is already used,  some of the ideas I have come up with are:
  
   bcon
   beacon
   badmin
   ...
  
  If anyone has a good idea for a name, please let me know.  My current 
  preference is badmin, pronounced either bad-min or be-admin.
  
  One change from my ideas below is that I am now implementing 
  the GUI in C++ 
  and Qt4, all the other points indicated below remain valid.
  
  In addition to what is mentioned there, I believe that 
  badmin, or whatever its 
  name is, should have at least the following features:
  
  badmin is a GUI project to create a Bacula Administrative Console.
  
  This console should be capable of the following things:
  
  - be a Graphical interface
  - Include all the features of:
 - bconsole
 - gnome-console
 - wx-console
 - bacula-web
 - bweb
 - brestore
 - jbacula
 - tray-monitor
  - tree selection of files for restore (like wx-console)
  - tree selection of files for backup
  - graphical creation of FileSets
  - resource display/modification
  - catalog display/modification
  - graphical report generation (like bacula-web, bweb)
  - programmable graphical report generation
  - scriptable
  - create/modify configuration files
  - remote client upgrade
  - software update/problem/patch notification
  - software patch installation
  - monitor daemons
  
  My current thinking is that it will be laid out a bit like 
  gnome-console is. 
  It will be a main window with a set of menus and an icon bar. 
  Below that will 
  be the main console window, and blow that will be a status 
  line and a command 
  input line.
  
  However, to the left will be a tree view window consisting 
  of a tree of 
  small icons representing all the daemons that the program can 
  access (e.g. 
  the directors, SDs, and FDs). As you click on these items, 
  the right console 
  pane will be replaced by the window that corresponds to what 
  item you clicked 
  on. That is the right window will be a widget stack that can change. 
  Depending on what you choose, the right menu may be a dialog, 
  tabbed widgets, 
  or any other appropriate window.  It will probably even be 
  dockable or have 
  the ability to open in a separate window.  
  
  Among the items in the left window will be things such as:
  - Console
  - Run Jobs
- Backup
- Restore
- Migrate
  ...
  - Reports
- bweb like
  - Catalog
  - Configure
  - Monitor
  ...
  
  This kind of layout was previously suggested by someone, and 
  to a certain 
  extent, it is implemented in the pygtk-console. The 
  difference is that in 
  that console, clicking on the items in the left pane brought 
  up new tabs in 
  the right window, and my concept is that it will bring up a 
  whole new view in 
  the right window (StackedWidgets), and that in some, possibly 
  all, the right 
  window could be made into a window that remains open on the 
  screen (i.e. you 
  may want to monitor at the same time you are starting jobs).
  
  Any help with this project would be appreciated, because once 
  we have the 
  basic window layout, adding new items and new views into 
  Bacula will be 
  sub-projects that are essentially independent of each other.
  
  As I am essentially still zero in using designer, if there is 
  anyone out there 
  that can do a quick programming task, please let me (and the 
  list know).  
  What I need to help speed up this project is a Qt4 project 
  file using qmake 
  and designer that has the main window defined via designer in 
  the way I 
  mentioned.  Once the basic skeleton (badmin.ui + badmin.pro + 
  a couple of 
  skeleton c++ files

Re: [Bacula-users] GUI interface

2006-10-02 Thread Les Mikesell
On Sat, 2006-09-30 at 09:47, Kern Sibbald wrote:

 Another idea that I have abandoned is developing a web application. There are 
 two reasons: 1. I find no user interface design tools for web based 
 applications.  2. web applications are very problematic for security minded 
 people such as myself.  I run a web server, but there is no way in the world 
 that I would run a Bacula web application on my web server.  In the past, I 
 have gotten around this by having a second LAN only server, but I don't 
 really like this.  In addition with technology such as FreeNX, I believe that 
 there is no disadvantage to writing desktop GUI applications -- they can now 
 be executed from anywhere much like a web application can.
 
 One can certainly argue with the above points, but that is pretty much 
 useless 
 because what I am writing is not to convince you about my views but to give 
 you a little bit of the reasoning behind the direction I am taking.

I'm currently using backuppc and looking at bacula as an alternative
for better tape handling.  However, I find the web interface of
backuppc to be very useful even though the backups themselves
are automated.  In particular, a glance at the 'host summary'
screen shows a color-coded list where you immediately notice
any problems, you can browse through the backups and either
restore files or grab a file or tar/zip archive of multiple
files directly through the browser interface, and backuppc
has a concept of individual machine 'owners' that can browse
and restore their own files through the web interface as well
as request immediate backup runs - without being able to see
hosts other than their own.  When someone needs a restore
they can probably still find a working browser.  I don't think
I'd want to be trying to make an NX client work in that situation,
and it doesn't have a way to deliver files directly in any case.

Also, most places that would need web security and logins
are likely to already have such applications running under
apache so that probably isn't a real big issue. 

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[Bacula-users] GUI interface

2006-09-30 Thread Kern Sibbald
Hello,

As I previously wrote, working on a GUI solution is now one of my top 
priorities.  We have discussed the problems and possible solutions for 
getting a good GUI interface for Bacula a number of times. I've thought about 
all the possibilities, and there are a lot of them.  Previously, I had been 
leaning more towards a Python Qt interface, because Python is a nice language 
and easy to program.  Unfortunately, I haven't found any really good IDE 
(integrated development environment) for it, nor have I found any good 
documentation on the Python Qt interface.  So I have abandoned this idea.

Another idea that I have abandoned is developing a web application. There are 
two reasons: 1. I find no user interface design tools for web based 
applications.  2. web applications are very problematic for security minded 
people such as myself.  I run a web server, but there is no way in the world 
that I would run a Bacula web application on my web server.  In the past, I 
have gotten around this by having a second LAN only server, but I don't 
really like this.  In addition with technology such as FreeNX, I believe that 
there is no disadvantage to writing desktop GUI applications -- they can now 
be executed from anywhere much like a web application can.

One can certainly argue with the above points, but that is pretty much useless 
because what I am writing is not to convince you about my views but to give 
you a little bit of the reasoning behind the direction I am taking.

So that is the brief background.  There is obviously much more to it all, but 
I'd like to get to the point, which is that I am now starting a new core code 
project for Bacula to initially create a console GUI (combination of 
bconsole, gconsole, wx-console, and all the others).  As a second step, it 
will evolve (or start a separate program) to including manangement job 
summary information such as bacula-web and similar programs.

To do the project, I intend to use Kdevelop as the IDE, designer as the GUI 
design tool (integrated into Kdevelop), C++, and Qt3 (later Qt4).  I would 
also like it to use cmake, but expect that in the beginning it will use 
qmake.

All this is a bit too much for me at one time, because all the pieces 
(Kdevelop, designer, Qt3, qmake or cmake) are all new to me, so I really 
would like to get some help from any of you who are experienced in these 
tools or who just want to help.

A few notes about the project:
- as mentioned above, it will be based on C++ and Qt
- it will use Kdevelop, designer and qmake or cmake
- it will be part of the base Bacula code, and hence in the bacula source
  tree.
- it will replace, gconsole and wx-console (i.e. they are depreciated)
- it will be copyrighted by the Bacula project (for the moment me -- more on
  that in my status #2 concerning the future of the Bacula project).
- it will serve as a test bed for defining a Bacula GUI API
- it will be highly integrated with the Director, but nevertheless a separate
  program.
- if I can get some help starting the project, I can imagine that we could get
  something quite functional with at least the capabilities of gconsole (and 
  maybe wx-console) by the end of the year.  If I have to do it alone, it will 
  probably be mid-2007 before it becomes functional.

Best regards,

Kern

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Re: [Bacula-users] GUI interface

2006-09-30 Thread Jo
Kern Sibbald schreef:
 Hello,

 As I previously wrote, working on a GUI solution is now one of my top 
 priorities.  We have discussed the problems and possible solutions for 
 getting a good GUI interface for Bacula a number of times. I've thought about 
 all the possibilities, and there are a lot of them.  Previously, I had been 
 leaning more towards a Python Qt interface, because Python is a nice language 
 and easy to program.  Unfortunately, I haven't found any really good IDE 
 (integrated development environment) for it, nor have I found any good 
 documentation on the Python Qt interface.  So I have abandoned this idea.

 Another idea that I have abandoned is developing a web application. There are 
 two reasons: 1. I find no user interface design tools for web based 
 applications.  2. web applications are very problematic for security minded 
 people such as myself.  I run a web server, but there is no way in the world 
 that I would run a Bacula web application on my web server.  In the past, I 
 have gotten around this by having a second LAN only server, but I don't 
 really like this.  In addition with technology such as FreeNX, I believe that 
 there is no disadvantage to writing desktop GUI applications -- they can now 
 be executed from anywhere much like a web application can.

 One can certainly argue with the above points, but that is pretty much 
 useless 
 because what I am writing is not to convince you about my views but to give 
 you a little bit of the reasoning behind the direction I am taking.

 So that is the brief background.  There is obviously much more to it all, but 
 I'd like to get to the point, which is that I am now starting a new core code 
 project for Bacula to initially create a console GUI (combination of 
 bconsole, gconsole, wx-console, and all the others).  As a second step, it 
 will evolve (or start a separate program) to including manangement job 
 summary information such as bacula-web and similar programs.

 To do the project, I intend to use Kdevelop as the IDE, designer as the GUI 
 design tool (integrated into Kdevelop), C++, and Qt3 (later Qt4).  I would 
 also like it to use cmake, but expect that in the beginning it will use 
 qmake.

 All this is a bit too much for me at one time, because all the pieces 
 (Kdevelop, designer, Qt3, qmake or cmake) are all new to me, so I really 
 would like to get some help from any of you who are experienced in these 
 tools or who just want to help.

 A few notes about the project:
 - as mentioned above, it will be based on C++ and Qt
 - it will use Kdevelop, designer and qmake or cmake
 - it will be part of the base Bacula code, and hence in the bacula source
   tree.
 - it will replace, gconsole and wx-console (i.e. they are depreciated)
 - it will be copyrighted by the Bacula project (for the moment me -- more on
   that in my status #2 concerning the future of the Bacula project).
 - it will serve as a test bed for defining a Bacula GUI API
 - it will be highly integrated with the Director, but nevertheless a separate
   program.
 - if I can get some help starting the project, I can imagine that we could get
   something quite functional with at least the capabilities of gconsole (and 
   maybe wx-console) by the end of the year.  If I have to do it alone, it 
 will 
   probably be mid-2007 before it becomes functional.
   
Did you consider wx-python. There is Boa-constructor as the IDE, but 
apparently you lean very much towards QT. I'm mostly sad because you 
move away from Python, since I don't know any C++. OTOH I don't have 
time to pitch in, so I don't really have too much to say about it.
I do hope you will find somebody who feels like helping. A GUI for 
Bacula is long overdue.

All the best,

Jo

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Re: [Bacula-users] GUI interface

2006-09-30 Thread Peter L. Buschman

One of the things that is sorely missing in enterprise backup 
frameworks is an embedded dynamic language.
C and C++ APIs tend to be rather inaccessible to users who find 
themselves limited to which API functions
the programmer chose to use. Providing easy entrypoints where end 
users can control and extend a piece
of software is one of the best ways to foster adoption and possibly 
even completely unexpected uses of the
software.

As a Python programmer myself, I would have to say that wxPython 
would have my vote.  As Jo notes, it does
have some very nice tools available and is also well documented (the 
author, Robin Dunn, also released a book
on it this year which is nicely paced for newcomers).  It is also 
easily packaged and compiled so distribution of
programs written in it need not be dependent on a local installation 
with all dependencies.

Possibly the biggest drawback to using Python for a Bacula GUI is 
that Bacula's Python API does not fully wrap
the C++ API.  Thus, building a GUI on it would require taking this 
intermediate step first whereas Kern's choice
of C++ has no such dependency and is already well-known to him. That 
said, the foundations are there given that
Python is already embedded in Bacula. Creating the scaffolding that 
allows Python to talk to the underlying C++ APIs
is not rocket science and a lot can be done automatically with tools 
like SWIG (wxPython itself is created this way
and is nothing more than a wrapper of wxWidgets).

Kern is, of course, Bacula's BDFL, so his choice stands. Ultimately, 
the right GUI toolkit is the one the main developer
is motivated enough to learn and he should have fun doing so.  Those 
of us in the peanut gallery don't have much right
to criticize the choice unless we are prepared to dive in and spend 
as much time on this new component as he is. ;-)

--PLB

At 17:28 30.9.06, Jo wrote:

Did you consider wx-python. There is Boa-constructor as the IDE, but
apparently you lean very much towards QT. I'm mostly sad because you
move away from Python, since I don't know any C++. OTOH I don't have
time to pitch in, so I don't really have too much to say about it.
I do hope you will find somebody who feels like helping. A GUI for
Bacula is long overdue.

All the best,

Jo

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Re: [Bacula-users] GUI interface

2006-09-30 Thread Kern Sibbald
On Saturday 30 September 2006 21:56, Les Mikesell wrote:
 On Sat, 2006-09-30 at 09:47, Kern Sibbald wrote:
 
  Another idea that I have abandoned is developing a web application. There 
are 
  two reasons: 1. I find no user interface design tools for web based 
  applications.  2. web applications are very problematic for security 
minded 
  people such as myself.  I run a web server, but there is no way in the 
world 
  that I would run a Bacula web application on my web server.  In the past, 
I 
  have gotten around this by having a second LAN only server, but I don't 
  really like this.  In addition with technology such as FreeNX, I believe 
that 
  there is no disadvantage to writing desktop GUI applications -- they can 
now 
  be executed from anywhere much like a web application can.
  
  One can certainly argue with the above points, but that is pretty much 
useless 
  because what I am writing is not to convince you about my views but to 
give 
  you a little bit of the reasoning behind the direction I am taking.
 
 I'm currently using backuppc and looking at bacula as an alternative
 for better tape handling.  However, I find the web interface of
 backuppc to be very useful even though the backups themselves
 are automated.  In particular, a glance at the 'host summary'
 screen shows a color-coded list where you immediately notice
 any problems, you can browse through the backups and either
 restore files or grab a file or tar/zip archive of multiple
 files directly through the browser interface, and backuppc
 has a concept of individual machine 'owners' that can browse
 and restore their own files through the web interface as well
 as request immediate backup runs - without being able to see
 hosts other than their own.  When someone needs a restore
 they can probably still find a working browser.  I don't think
 I'd want to be trying to make an NX client work in that situation,
 and it doesn't have a way to deliver files directly in any case.
 
 Also, most places that would need web security and logins
 are likely to already have such applications running under
 apache so that probably isn't a real big issue. 

Yes, I  understand and agree with your points.  

No need to worry as there are already a number of web interfaces developed for 
Bacula, and I have no doubt that will be more written in the future.  

My point was only that it is unlikely that I will be directly or personally 
involved in writing/supporting them.



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[Bacula-users] GUI or web interface

2006-02-21 Thread Boniforti Flavio
Hello all.
I guess it's a question already being posted many times, but *at the
time being*, what's the best and most powerful GUI or web interface for
bacula?

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Re: [Bacula-users] Gui working

2005-12-22 Thread Willard Farqwark
 root = /bacula-web
Where and what did you call the directory for the main gui files are?
mine are in /var/www/html/bacula--
I did try /bacula-web and same problem.
The problem is the gui cannot find the DB  but I can log in on the comand line
using the info in bacula.conf. 
I must not understand what  root = /bacula-web means.

Thanks for any help

Ted

PS  I feel this is important, its the only way to sell management that 
something is happing, unless you really have to restore something.. :)

On Tuesday 20 December 2005 06:09, Beren Gamble wrote:
 The defaults worked for me.

 Make sure you change ownership of the bacula-web directory to whatever user
 is used for apache. Usually the user is called 'apache'.

 Cheers,

 # This is the config file.
 # Please, modify with your preferences

 # Title of main window
 title = Bacula-Web 1.1

 # If http://www.domain.com/bacula/
 # root = /bacula
 root = /bacula-web

 # Show a box with a detailed report at index or Status report
 # I'll remove this in future versions.
 IndexReport = 0

 # Secs since last run. Default 24h.
 # Unused in this version
 # LastRun = 86400


 # Mode of index page: Full or Lite
 # Only useful if IndexReport = 0
 #
 # Lite: Only shows a little report for the last 24h.
 #   Maybe you would want this if you have very much jobs.
 # Full: This shows a full table with detailed data
 #   Maybe you would want this if you have a bit of jobs.
 mode = Lite



 # LANGUAGE
 # In this version only:
 # en_EN - English
 # es_ES - Spanish
 # it_IT - Italian, Mantained by Gian Domenico Messina (gianni.messina AT
 c-ict.it). # fr_FR - Frech, Mantained by Morgan LEFIEUX (comete AT
 daknet.org). lang = en_EN



 # DATABASE INFORMATION
 # 
 # This section contains the database configuration.
 # You must create a user or to give it permissions to access
 # from web machine.

 [.DATABASE]
 # Your database host or IP
 host = localhost

 # Your database login
 login = bacula

 # Your database password.
 # For empty passwords use this:
 # pass =
 pass =

 # Your database name
 db_name = bacula

 # Your database type: mysql,sqlite,pgsql
 db_type = mysql

 # Uncomment this and modify it if your database runs on a non standard
 port. # db_port = 3306

  Willard Farqwark [EMAIL PROTECTED] 19/12/2005 22:26:23 

 Does anyone have the Web Gui working yet with mysql?
 If so, can you show the bacula.conf

 Thanks

 Ted


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[Bacula-users] Gui working

2005-12-20 Thread Willard Farqwark
Does anyone have the Web Gui working yet with mysql?
If so, can you show the bacula.conf

Thanks

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[Bacula-users] GUI Connect problem

2005-12-15 Thread Ted Sudtell
I have the GUI installed and get the famous DB:Error: no such database

Using the config prams 'mysql -hlocalhost -uroot -pmypass bacula  Works fine.
Using RHEL3
Mysql 4.1.12
Bacula 1.38.2

The web test.php shows all fine..

Where do I look?

Thanks


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Re: [Bacula-users] GUI?

2005-09-18 Thread Erik P. Olsen
On Sat, 2005-09-17 at 22:48 +0200, Arno Lehmann wrote:
 Hi.
 
 On 17.09.2005 22:31, Erik P. Olsen wrote:
 
  Does a gui frontend to Bacula exist?
 
 Yes.
 
 A more useful answer would, of course, be possible if you told us what 
 aspect of bacula you want to use graphically...

Thanks, sounds promissing, then there must be more than one gui
possibility :)

My preference is a gui interface to restoring files. I.e. a display of
backed-up files from which you may select files to be restored. 

I have seen the gui on|off command to bconsole but that doesn't seem
to make any difference.

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[Bacula-users] GUI?

2005-09-17 Thread Erik P. Olsen
Does a gui frontend to Bacula exist?

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Re: [Bacula-users] GUI?

2005-09-17 Thread Arno Lehmann

Hi.

On 17.09.2005 22:31, Erik P. Olsen wrote:


Does a gui frontend to Bacula exist?


Yes.

A more useful answer would, of course, be possible if you told us what 
aspect of bacula you want to use graphically...


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Re: [Bacula-users] GUI?

2005-09-17 Thread Phil Stracchino
Erik P. Olsen wrote:
 Does a gui frontend to Bacula exist?

There is a GUI console, though it is fairly minimally GUIfied.

An optional wxConsole exists, which is a little more GUI in some
respects; in particular it offers a GUI file-selection tree window for
restores.

There is a Bacula-Web application which can be used to monitor Bacula
status and recent job history.

There is not, at this time, a complete GUI point-click-select
administration/management console, though I believe several people are
working on web-based management front-ends.


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