Re: [Bacula-users] list volumes / list media shows volumes and media from other catalogs
On Thu, 17 Aug 2006, Kern Sibbald wrote: On Thursday 17 August 2006 18:41, Jo Rhett wrote: On Wed, Aug 16, 2006 at 08:49:19AM +0200, Kern Sibbald wrote: On Wednesday 16 August 2006 00:48, Jo Rhett wrote: After using bacula a lot today to do cleanup of some testing I did, I've found that ALL Pools *always* show up everywhere. No matter what command you use, or what catalog you are in. In there any way to associate pools with catalogs, such that pools don't show up in the list if they have no media in that catalog? Or am I thinking about Pools and Catalogs all wrong? I agree this should be changed as it could be very confusing to users at least at first, but it will require someone to write some code. I'm your huckleberry :-) Anything jump out of your mind on things to avoid? No, it seems to me to be straight forward: when Bacula is iterating through the list of Pool resources, it just needs to be made smart enough to skip pools that are defined in a different catalog. That should solve the confusion problem. I had not made the connection between Jo's recent post and my request yesterday about restricting clients to certain areas; I am new enough to Bacula that I am still learning to think about all the Bacula entities and their relationships. I think Jo's desired mod would address my question as well, if I've understood correctly. I am running the CVS version and would be very willing to test out any fixes posted. -- Michael - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] list volumes / list media shows volumes and media from other catalogs
On Wed, Aug 16, 2006 at 08:49:19AM +0200, Kern Sibbald wrote: On Wednesday 16 August 2006 00:48, Jo Rhett wrote: After using bacula a lot today to do cleanup of some testing I did, I've found that ALL Pools *always* show up everywhere. No matter what command you use, or what catalog you are in. In there any way to associate pools with catalogs, such that pools don't show up in the list if they have no media in that catalog? Or am I thinking about Pools and Catalogs all wrong? I agree this should be changed as it could be very confusing to users at least at first, but it will require someone to write some code. I'm your huckleberry :-) Anything jump out of your mind on things to avoid? -- Jo Rhett senior geek SVcolo : Silicon Valley Colocation - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] list volumes / list media shows volumes and media from other catalogs
On Thursday 17 August 2006 18:41, Jo Rhett wrote: On Wed, Aug 16, 2006 at 08:49:19AM +0200, Kern Sibbald wrote: On Wednesday 16 August 2006 00:48, Jo Rhett wrote: After using bacula a lot today to do cleanup of some testing I did, I've found that ALL Pools *always* show up everywhere. No matter what command you use, or what catalog you are in. In there any way to associate pools with catalogs, such that pools don't show up in the list if they have no media in that catalog? Or am I thinking about Pools and Catalogs all wrong? I agree this should be changed as it could be very confusing to users at least at first, but it will require someone to write some code. I'm your huckleberry :-) Anything jump out of your mind on things to avoid? No, it seems to me to be straight forward: when Bacula is iterating through the list of Pool resources, it just needs to be made smart enough to skip pools that are defined in a different catalog. That should solve the confusion problem. A more complete approach would be to add code to look up all the Pools defined in the current database, and then iterate through them listing the contents, and if there are any additional pools defined in the Pool resources for that database, complain that a pool is missing. Likewise, if any Pools are found in the catalog that do not exist in the Pool resource definitions, warn the user that there are unexpected pools. -- Jo Rhett senior geek SVcolo : Silicon Valley Colocation - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] list volumes / list media shows volumes and media from other catalogs
On Thu, 17 Aug 2006, Kern Sibbald wrote: On Thursday 17 August 2006 18:41, Jo Rhett wrote: On Wed, Aug 16, 2006 at 08:49:19AM +0200, Kern Sibbald wrote: On Wednesday 16 August 2006 00:48, Jo Rhett wrote: After using bacula a lot today to do cleanup of some testing I did, I've found that ALL Pools *always* show up everywhere. No matter what command you use, or what catalog you are in. In there any way to associate pools with catalogs, such that pools don't show up in the list if they have no media in that catalog? Or am I thinking about Pools and Catalogs all wrong? I agree this should be changed as it could be very confusing to users at least at first, but it will require someone to write some code. I'm your huckleberry :-) Anything jump out of your mind on things to avoid? No, it seems to me to be straight forward: when Bacula is iterating through the list of Pool resources, it just needs to be made smart enough to skip pools that are defined in a different catalog. That should solve the confusion problem. I had not made the connection between Jo's recent post and my request yesterday about restricting clients to certain areas; I am new enough to Bacula that I am still learning to think about all the Bacula entities and their relationships. I think Jo's desired mod would address my question as well, if I've understood correctly. I am running the CVS version and would be very willing to test out any fixes posted. -- Michael - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] list volumes / list media shows volumes and media from other catalogs
On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 01:54:55PM -0500, Michael Brennen wrote: I had not made the connection between Jo's recent post and my request yesterday about restricting clients to certain areas; I am new enough to Bacula that I am still learning to think about all the Bacula entities and their relationships. I think Jo's desired mod would address my question as well, if I've understood correctly. I am running the CVS version and would be very willing to test out any fixes posted. Hm. This matters to me, but I'm leaving for vacation next week so don't hold your breath on this fix. That said, I need to start poking around on allowing limited client access for query/restore purposes. We should compare notes sometime soon. -- Jo Rhett senior geek SVcolo : Silicon Valley Colocation - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] list volumes / list media shows volumes and media from other catalogs
On Thu, 17 Aug 2006, Jo Rhett wrote: On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 01:54:55PM -0500, Michael Brennen wrote: I had not made the connection between Jo's recent post and my request yesterday about restricting clients to certain areas; I am new enough to Bacula that I am still learning to think about all the Bacula entities and their relationships. I think Jo's desired mod would address my question as well, if I've understood correctly. I am running the CVS version and would be very willing to test out any fixes posted. Hm. This matters to me, but I'm leaving for vacation next week so don't hold your breath on this fix. I understand, will be glad to help with whatever you pull together whenever that is. -- Michael - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] list volumes / list media shows volumes and media from other catalogs
After using bacula a lot today to do cleanup of some testing I did, I've found that ALL Pools *always* show up everywhere. No matter what command you use, or what catalog you are in. In there any way to associate pools with catalogs, such that pools don't show up in the list if they have no media in that catalog? Or am I thinking about Pools and Catalogs all wrong? On Aug 15, 2006, at 9:39 AM, Jo Rhett wrote: Martin Simmons kindly helped me realize that I was ass-u-me-ing something based on the output of list volumes and list media. Both of these commands show the pools from other catalogs, with no entries in them. I assumed something wasn't recorded, not that it simply wasn't visible. Using use to change catalogs reverses the results, showing you the volumes/media in that catalog and no results under the pool headers for the other catalogs. This is confusing. list pools happens to show all pools in any catalog, and that is where I think the problem may lie. Are Pools global? Or are they stored in a single catalog? Obviously this isn't a huge operational problem, so it's low priority, but I think that it would be much more intuitive if the interface only showed you pools (and pool headers) for the catalog you are using. Here's an example of the confusing output: *list media Pool: svcolo_30day No results to list. Pool: svcolo_3month No results to list. Pool: svcolo_1year No results to list. Pool: localnet_Pool No results to list. Pool: clients_Pool +-+--+---+-+-- +--+-+--+---+-- +-+ | MediaId | VolumeName | VolStatus | VolBytes| VolFiles | VolRetention | Recycle | Slot | InChanger | MediaType| LastWritten | +-+--+---+-+-- +--+-+--+---+-- +-+ | 1 | clients-0001 | Full | 1,597,381,545 |0 |2,592,000 | 1 |0 | 0 | File_clients | 2006-08-13 14:03:04 | | 2 | clients-0002 | Full | 173,666,289 |0 |2,592,000 | 1 |0 | 0 | File_clients | 2006-08-13 14:03:24 | | 3 | clients-0003 | Used | 16,645,859,584 |3 |2,592,000 | 1 |0 | 0 | File_clients | 2006-07-20 11:38:18 | ...etc -- Jo Rhett senior geek Silicon Valley Colocation -- --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users -- Jo Rhett senior geek Silicon Valley Colocation - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
