Re: Inquiry
As the Bab Himself says it means "The most eternal, the most everlasting of the Names." The information was obtained through a learned friend, as I myself know nothing in the Writings of the Bab. Faruq"Richard H. Gravelly" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you very much Faruq. If you will indulge one more question please: What is the translation of Qayyum l'Asma? Richard - Original Message - From: Faruq Izadinia To: Baha'i Studies Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 8:49 PM Subject: Re: Inquiry Dear Richard Qayyum is superlative for Qaim, but it has another meaning which is used in Baha'i Writings. Qaim means somebody who is standing or rose to do something. Qayyum means self-subsisting (as the Guardian has translated). Mihdi, which is pronounced in Persian is Mehdi and in Arabic as MAHDI, means guided. I've never seen something like AMHAD for it, which can mean more or most guided!"Richard H. Gravelly" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am looking for the meaning (definition) of:Qayyum in relationship to Qaim. Does Mihdi also have a superlative?Any help will be appreciated.Thank you.Richard.--You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To unsubscribe send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Baha'i Studies is available through the following:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://list.jccc.net/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=bahai-stnews://list.jccc.net/bahai-sthttp://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist (public)http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] (public) Yahoo! India Mobile: Ringtones, Wallpapers, Picture Messages and more. Download now. -- You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Baha'i Studies is available through the following: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.jccc.net/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=bahai-st news://list.jccc.net/bahai-st http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist (public) http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] (public) --You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To unsubscribe send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Baha'i Studies is available through the following:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://list.jccc.net/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=bahai-stnews://list.jccc.net/bahai-sthttp://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist (public)http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] (public) Yahoo! India Mobile: Ringtones, Wallpapers, Picture Messages and more. Download now. -- You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Baha'i Studies is available through the following: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.jccc.net/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=bahai-st news://list.jccc.net/bahai-st http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist (public) http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] (public)
Re: Inquiry
Your question re: Qayyum al-Asma is most interesting and my friend Faruq has written in reply. Qa'im literally means He Who ariseth. He who is standing. Qayyum in the "superlative" of Qa'im He by Whom through Whom for Whom all else are standing. All have Their being through the Qayyum. In the Writings it is translated either as Self Subsisting or Self existent **the hearts shall be dilated and overflow with the love of the All-living [ha.yy]and Self-existent [Qayyum]God(`Abdu'l-Baha: Baha'i World Faith*, Page: 415) Now Qayyum al Asma would mean that Being through Whom all Names have their being. Without Him no Name will have referential significance. The Bab himself did not call the Book Qayyum al-Asma in the Qayyum al-Asma Itself. The Bab referred to His "first" Book by this name in the Persian Bayan. You can read it clearly on the last line of this page: http://www.h-net.org/~bahai/areprint/bab/A-F/bayanf/bayan239.jpg Further in the Arabic Bayan He said *all of ye should rise should get up in respect when ye hear the Dhikr of Him Whom God will manifest and ye should watch the difference between the Qa'im and Qayyum [9] for in the Year Nine ye shall attain unto all good. fa le taqumunna antum kullukum ajma'uun idha sami'tum dhikra Man Nuz.hiruhu bil Qa'im falituraaqibanna farqa al-Qa'im wa lQayyum thumma fee sanati "Tis'" antum kulla khayrin tudrikuun [Al-Bayan al-arabi The Arabic Bayan] Baha'u'llah refers to this He saith - blessed and glorified be He: "In the year nine ye will attain unto all good." On another occasion He saith: "In the year nine ye will attain unto the Presence of God."(Baha'u'llah: Epistle to the Son of the Wolf, Page: 141) In the past the divines were perplexed over this question, a question which He Who is the Sovereign Truth hath, during the early years of His life, Himself heard them ask repeatedly: `What is that Word which the Qa'im will pronounce whereby the leaders of religion are put to flight?' Say, that Word is now made manifest and ye have fled ere ye heard it uttered, although ye perceive it not. And that blessed, that hidden, that concealed and treasured Word is this: `"HE" hath now appeared in the raiment of "I". He Who was hidden from mortal eyes exclaimeth: Lo! I am the All-Manifest.' This is the Word which hath caused the limbs of disbelievers to quake. Glorified be God! All the heavenly Scriptures of the past attest to the greatness of this Day, the greatness of this Manifestation, the greatness of His signs, the greatness of His Word, the greatness of His constancy, the greatness of His pre-eminent station. Yet despite all this the people have remained heedless and are shut out as by a veil. Indeed all the Prophets have yearned to attain this Day.(Baha'u'llah: Tablets of Baha'u'llah, Pages: 258-259) i hope this helps but if not God willing you will be inspired to see the answer yourself nothing but an ephemeral dust khazeh From: Faruq Izadinia To: Baha'i Studies Sent: 02 December 2003 20:13 Subject: Re: Inquiry As the Bab Himself says it means "The most eternal, the most everlasting of the Names." The information was obtained through a learned friend, as I myself know nothing in the Writings of the Bab. Faruq"Richard H. Gravelly" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you very much Faruq. If you will indulge one more question please: What is the translation of Qayyum l'Asma? Richard - Original Message - From: Faruq Izadinia To: Baha'i Studies Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 8:49 PM Subject: Re: Inquiry Dear Richard Qayyum is superlative for Qaim, but it has another meaning which is used in Baha'i Writings. Qaim means somebody who is standing or rose to do something. Qayyum means self-subsisting (as the Guardian has translated). Mihdi, which is pronounced in Persian is Mehdi and in Arabic as MAHDI, means guided. I've never seen something like AMHAD for it, which can mean more or most guided!"Richard H. Gravelly" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am looking for the meaning (definition) of:Qayyum in relationship to Qaim.Any help will be appreciated.Thank you.Richard. -- You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Baha'i Studies is available through the following: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.jccc.net/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=bahai-st news://list.jccc.net/bahai-st http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist (public) http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] (public)
Re: Inquiry
Thank you very much for the information and your time and trouble. Richard. - Original Message - From: Faruq Izadinia To: Baha'i Studies Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 12:13 PM Subject: Re: Inquiry As the Bab Himself says it means "The most eternal, the most everlasting of the Names." The information was obtained through a learned friend, as I myself know nothing in the Writings of the Bab. Faruq"Richard H. Gravelly" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you very much Faruq. If you will indulge one more question please: What is the translation of Qayyum l'Asma? Richard - Original Message - From: Faruq Izadinia To: Baha'i Studies Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 8:49 PM Subject: Re: Inquiry Dear Richard Qayyum is superlative for Qaim, but it has another meaning which is used in Baha'i Writings. Qaim means somebody who is standing or rose to do something. Qayyum means self-subsisting (as the Guardian has translated). Mihdi, which is pronounced in Persian is Mehdi and in Arabic as MAHDI, means guided. I've never seen something like AMHAD for it, which can mean more or most guided!"Richard H. Gravelly" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am looking for the meaning (definition) of:Qayyum in relationship to Qaim. Does Mihdi also have a superlative?Any help will be appreciated.Thank you.Richard.--You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To unsubscribe send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Baha'i Studies is available through the following:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://list.jccc.net/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=bahai-stnews://list.jccc.net/bahai-sthttp://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist (public)http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] (public) Yahoo! India Mobile: Ringtones, Wallpapers, Picture Messages and more. Download now. -- You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Baha'i Studies is available through the following: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.jccc.net/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=bahai-st news://list.jccc.net/bahai-st http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist (public) http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] (public) --You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To unsubscribe send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Baha'i Studies is available through the following:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://list.jccc.net/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=bahai-stnews://list.jccc.net/bahai-sthttp://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist (public)http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] (public) Yahoo! India Mobile: Ringtones, Wallpapers, Picture Messages and more. Download now. -- You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Baha'i Studies is available through the following: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.jccc.net/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=bahai-st news://list.jccc.net/bahai-st http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist (public) http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] (public) -- You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Baha'i Studies is available through the following: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.jccc.net/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=bahai-st news://list.jccc.net/bahai-st http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist (public) http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] (public)
