Re: [bajajpulsar] Here comes another issue...

2007-09-30 Thread Deepak Kumar
Maybe the incident is exaggerated...

On 9/30/07, Aditya B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Q: Can fuel (petrol) catch fire if it falls on the hot cylinder head ?
 Ans: Yes, and No..
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Re: [bajajpulsar] Here comes another issue...

2007-09-30 Thread Gopalakrishnan Rajashekar
Hi,

StrikethroughMaybe/strikethrough  the incident is Boldhighly/bold
exaggerated...

would be closer ...

ciao
gr

Maybe the incident is exaggerated...



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Re: [bajajpulsar] Here comes another issue...

2007-09-29 Thread Rajeev Singh
Hi,

To me it looks like the petrol leakage story is true (most probably
from the filter). However the fire story can not be true or else the
writer would have been in hospital for sure. It appears to be a ploy
to get immediate action from BAL (and yes, in my experience, this is
not a company that would give immediate attention to issues with its
products unless one raves and rants or moves on to do the kind of
street theatre that one can see having been done here).

I know Durgesh at Bagga Link. Next time I go there for getting my bike
serviced (within the next week or so), I will ask him about the case
and post the info in case he is willing to share stuff about the
incident.

Ciao // Rajeev




On 9/28/07, Street Hawk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 1 more thing to add.

 Since petrol is highly combustible fluid there wud have a outburst of fire
 or some explosion.

 other things agreed with GR  Nav .





Re: [bajajpulsar] Here comes another issue...

2007-09-29 Thread Gopalakrishnan Rajashekar
Hi,

please do that.

the problem with this kind of nautanki is ofc obvious ..

ciao
gr

I know Durgesh at Bagga Link. Next time I go there for getting my bike



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Re: [bajajpulsar] Here comes another issue...

2007-09-29 Thread Deepak Kumar
If the above incident is true, then...

On 9/28/07, Gopalakrishnan Rajashekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   1. BAL sucks
 2. 220 buyers are guinea pigs/ testers
 3. *^#$ makes better bikes
 4. My next bike will be a 
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Re: [bajajpulsar] Here comes another issue...

2007-09-28 Thread Gopalakrishnan Rajashekar
Hi,

this post bugs/ worries me and all

but it makes less and lesser sense to me

what oil ?

how did the spark plug cause a fire ? if so which one ? and what was it
doing open to the outside

which did not spread ?

no account of who/ how the fire was put out

injectors are implicated and changed

AFAIK they are well below the tank and squirt into the combustion chamber
what do they have to do with leaky fuel from below the tank ?

@ deepak : could you please confirm that this is at worst some April 1 type
joke or just plain attention. And more importantly could you please post a
follow up. betcha a crate of thumsup or sthg better ;p that will prolly be
on the lines of i tried to fiddle with / fix my bike and of course could not
so ...

I have been wrong before and maybe I am wrong again,  but I don't buy this
story, oh let me rephrase that I don't buy the account of this probably true
incident as posted in the first mail on this thread

let save everyone on this list some time and write on the black board in
large alphabets.

1. BAL sucks
2. 220 buyers are guinea pigs/ testers
3. *^#$ makes better bikes
4. My next bike will be a 

dust chalk off trousers and hair

I guess what I would like to know a) what really happened b) do I need to be
aware of something c) should sthg like this happen, what is the correct
thing to do etc.

ciao
gr


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Re: [bajajpulsar] Here comes another issue...

2007-09-28 Thread *** Deepak ***
No Sir,

Not a joke. I just reproduced the post as it was on xbhp. Reading his instance 
and the logical conclusions made by other members, I did find his case 
surprising. Even I was taken aback as to how an injector can spray fuel over 
the engine and on his legs. But at the same time, I wondered how and why would 
someone purposely twist the facts, hence posted it. This chap was supposed to 
come out with the aftermath pics- till the last time I checked he hadn't.

Regards,

Deepak

- Original Message - 
From: Gopalakrishnan Rajashekar 
To: bajajpulsar@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 11:36 AM
Subject: Re: [bajajpulsar] Here comes another issue...

@ deepak : could you please confirm that this is at worst some April 1 type
joke or just plain attention. And more importantly could you please post a
follow up. betcha a crate of thumsup or sthg better ;p that will prolly be
on the lines of i tried to fiddle with / fix my bike and of course could not
so ...

I have been wrong before and maybe I am wrong again, but I don't buy this
story, oh let me rephrase that I don't buy the account of this probably true
incident as posted in the first mail on this thread

let save everyone on this list some time and write on the black board in
large alphabets.

1. BAL sucks
2. 220 buyers are guinea pigs/ testers
3. *^#$ makes better bikes
4. My next bike will be a 

dust chalk off trousers and hair

I guess what I would like to know a) what really happened b) do I need to be
aware of something c) should sthg like this happen, what is the correct
thing to do etc.

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Re: [bajajpulsar] Here comes another issue...

2007-09-27 Thread *** Deepak ***
Source: Ashu, New Delhi.

http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/showthread.php?t=14252

Hi Everyone,

hope everyones' doing fine.

This one will be a new post from my side after a long time and a very very 
important one for sure.

I bought a Pulsar 220 DTSFI some time back.

It was running ok. it has done 1700 kms till date.

2 days ago i noticed some oil dripping from the left hand side underneath the 
tank. Also the meter sensor had failed causing the meter not to show speed 
units.
I took it to the bagga link showroom in Karol bagh and told them about the 
problems.

The Showroom incharge, Mr. Pankaj Kappor assured me it will be fixed in 1 hour.
i returned after 1 hour from the karol bagh market and they said it's taken 
care off. I checked the meter and it was working fine and there was no oil 
dripping as well.

Today in the evening at around 5 i was going from South ex-1 to Gole market.
I was passing from Tuglaka road when i felt my left leg feeling cold, i ignored 
it.
Then it got too much and i looked down and what i saw scared me to death.
There was a stream of petrol coming from underneath the tank and to my horror 
it caught a spark from the spark plug and the Bike  was on fire.

I stopped the Bike  and switched the engine off. todd on the side of the road 
to cath my breath. then i called up Mr. Ramachandran Head Pro-Biking and told 
him what has happened. he got chocked and asked if i was ok, i said i am okay 
but my jeans and shoes are completely wet with Petrol and i could have caught 
fire with the bike. He gave me the number of Mr. Durgesh, service manager Bagga 
Link. I called Mr. Durgesh and he promised to send some mechanics at my 
location. the mechanics arrived in half an hour and examined the bike.

They asked me to sign on a handover job sheet and termed the bike's problem as 
break down. They towed the Bike  to Karol bagh while i traveled in an Auto to 
Bagga Link Karol Bagh.

By that time a few of my friends had also arrived at Bagga link as i had called 
them earlier. They were really worried about me, they were fine once they saw, 
i was ok. 

Then i went ahead and met Mr. Durgesh who asked me if i was okay and then he 
asked me what speed was i doing. I informed him i was doing around 40 kmph, 
then he asked the mechanic to take care of the problem. 

The Bike  took 2 hours to repair, they replaced the fuel injector unit with new 
ones.

Observations - Bajaj quality sucks till date compared to Hero Honda.
I owned a Karizma for more than 3 years and never did i come across any 
compromise on the part quality. They might be losing out to Bajaj in the sales 
war but in terms of quality they are still way ahead of them.

Atleast HH bikes don't have horrific issues like the front suspension cracking 
or breaking under use (refer Pulsar 200) or this one on the P 220 , the 
flagship model, technology laiden bike. P220 has so many minor issues as 
highlighted by other owners on XBHP.

This particular Injector Unit has been sourced by Delphi ans the only thing i 
can think of is somewhere compromises are being made on the component quality 
in favor of financial gains that might leave customers injured or might also 
kill them.

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Re: [bajajpulsar] Here comes another issue...

2007-09-27 Thread Gopalakrishnan Rajashekar
Hi,

worrisome

and while the incident is likely true

these are likely problems in narration

2 days ago i noticed some oil dripping from the left hand side underneath
 the tank. Also the meter sensor had failed causing the meter

which meter ?
what oil ?

I am guessing that fuel level sensor needed to be attended and/ or fuel was
leaking from under the tank.


horror it caught a spark from the spark plug and the Bike  was on fire.


I can't buy this.

Head Pro-Biking and told him what has happened. he got chocked and asked if
 i was ok, i said i am okay but my jeans and shoes are completely wet with
 Petrol and i could have caught fire with the bike. He gave me the number of
 Mr. Durgesh, service manager Bagga


esp in the light of this.

having said all this I will ofc be quite watchful and wary and so on.

I would be *very* interested in reading a proper/ technical discussion on
this. My humble nontechnical guessoffering is it somehow somewhere involves
the fuel filter http://www.flickr.com/photos/arpandiv/622938431/

ciao
gr


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Re: [bajajpulsar] Here comes another issue...

2007-09-27 Thread Gopalakrishnan Rajashekar
I guess so,

and once it has it is not going to ignore fuel soaked denim etc, and most
prolly will flashback to the source of the fuel 

ciao
gr

Can fule catch fire if it fall on the hot cylinder head :-?



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