Re: [BangPypers] Open Calais ? Bellenix meeting

2009-10-21 Thread Arvind Jamuna Dixit
There is a small correction with respect to the percentage value given to
the entity. I previously thought that the percentage value with the entity
indicated how sure OpenCalais was on the element being an entity. That turns
out to be incorrect.

 Thomas from OpenCalais team mailed me the correction and it goes like this:

Just a quick note on an email I saw on this list. The % returned by Calais
with an entity is not the certainty of correctness – but something much
cooler. It’s actually the computed relevance of the entity to the document
as a whole. Feed it an article with a bunch of entities mentions and we’ll
attempt to identify the most important entities in the content.

Great for noise level reduction in tagging, etc.

Thanks Thomas.

On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 8:24 PM, Arvind Jamuna Dixit ard...@gmail.comwrote:

 The demo given by Anand on semantic search of feeds using OpenCalais was
 very interesting.
 The fact that his app essentially did something that 
 Feedlyhttp://www.feedly.com/( based on Google Reader ) does piqued my 
 interest.

 Feedly too uses OpenCalais to get semantic information on a blog post and
 for search.
 If you use Google Reader as a RSS reader then you have to check out Feedly.

 Anand used python-calais http://code.google.com/p/python-calais/ for
 communicating to the OpenCalais 
 APIhttp://opencalais.com/documentation/calais-web-service-api/api-invocation/rest
 .
 Anand then showed how OpenCalais categorized the input text into entities,
 topics and relations.
 With every entity OpenCalais attached a percentage that indicated how sure
 it was on the element being the entity
 whose identity was given by a URL. For instance, there is a URL identiying
 the entity Android as a product.

 Open Calais is exciting new technology that has made information gathering
 applications like Feedly and Klezio http://www.klezio.com/ possible.
 Another application is Tagaroo http://tagaroo.opencalais.com/ a
 wordpress plugin that automatically generates tags as you type your blog
 post.

 In the meetup Anand said that the current state-of-the-art of semantic web
 is not even 5% of its potential. A quick search of the term
 imagine semantic 
 webhttp://www.readwriteweb.com/fastsearch?search=imagine+semantic+webx=0y=0on
  ReadWriteWeb shows that a lot of businesses and visionaries are betting
 big on semantic web and know that
 it has a lot of potential.




 On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Anand Balachandran Pillai 
 abpil...@gmail.com wrote:



 On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Sriram Narayanan sriram...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hi,
   I had some stuff to take care of and was too tired to attend the
  meeting. How did it go? Any tidbits that the list might benefit from?
 

 The opencalais session was good. I'm going to tell my colleagues about
 this, and they'd surely explore it more.

 Anand and Ramdas have asked that we have sessions again with more
 detail. I agree, since the scant amount of ZFS that I showcased today
 was in itself radically different from what we all know from other
 file systems.

 I request feedback from other attendees on today's ZFS session. Please
 let me know what else you'd have liked me to cover at an introduction
 level.


 We had a good meeting. There were some initial hiccups with the
 projector but moving to a separate meeting room solved it.

 I presented a brief introduction to semantic web and showcased the
 OpenCalais API using python-calais. I showed how to extract semantic
 concepts (categories) from existing data using the API.

 I went on to demo my application which listens to a couple of mobile
 phone news feeds and uses semantic information returned by OpenCalais
 to provide specific natural language queries (not exactly NLP there yet,
 but I am simulating NLP like queries) which return specific answers.

 The demo showed making a query on cost of motorola android and
 this returning the specific data requested on the price of the most
 recent motorola android mobile phones.

 I will wait for some other attendee for their feedback on how good
 this was rather than making the comment myself :)

 This was followed by a very good session by Sriram and Moinak on
 the capabilities of ZFS. I don't want to get into details, but I was blown
 away by the capabilities of ZFS. I had only read about it before and never
 seen it in action, so when Sriram showed how to increase the storage
 of an existing volume by adding another device and just adding it to
 the volume using zfs add it was just too good to believe. ZFS
 makes those actions which could take hours using Linux ext3
 look trivial and done within seconds...!

 We started the ZFS session a bit late i.e around 5.30 pm so there
 was not much time to showcase all the bits planned. We dispersed
 around 6.10 pm.

 We were 7 attendees in total.



 -- Sriram
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Re: [BangPypers] Open Calais ? Bellenix meeting

2009-10-19 Thread Ramdas S
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 8:24 PM, Arvind Jamuna Dixit ard...@gmail.comwrote:

 The demo given by Anand on semantic search of feeds using OpenCalais was
 very interesting.
 The fact that his app essentially did something that 
 Feedlyhttp://www.feedly.com/( based on Google Reader ) does piqued my 
 interest.




 On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Anand Balachandran Pillai 
 abpil...@gmail.com wrote:



 On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Sriram Narayanan sriram...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hi,
   I had some stuff to take care of and was too tired to attend the
  meeting. How did it go? Any tidbits that the list might benefit from?
 





Both sessions were quite good, left us with a lot of ideas, especially
OpenCalais stuff.

In future we must try to get follow up tracks to some specific interest
groups.
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Re: [BangPypers] Open Calais ? Bellenix meeting

2009-10-19 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
Every mail on this thread increases my regret for missing this
meeting. Oh well... Nice to see the momentum though. Does anyone have
any ideas/requests for a talk next month?

-- 
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in
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Re: [BangPypers] Open Calais ? Bellenix meeting

2009-10-19 Thread Arvind Jamuna Dixit
Below are some points about ZFS and BeneliX that were made in the meetup.

ZFS is a cutting edge
filesystemhttp://www.google.co.in/search?q=cutting+edge+filesystemfrom
Sun Microsystems adopted by
BeneliX http://www.belenix.org/.

Some of the underlying concepts of ZFS
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZFSthat I think is simply stunning are:

* Storage is managed by poolshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZFS#Storage_pools.
A storage pool abstracts several block devices.

* Allows for easy addition and replacement of drives to a pool with zfs *add
* and *replace* commands.

* Ability to create large sparse
fileshttp://blogs.sun.com/bonwick/entry/seek_hole_and_seek_data
.

* 
Snapshotshttp://docs.huihoo.com/opensolaris/solaris-zfs-administration-guide/html/ch06.html:
A snapshot is a read-only copy of a filesystem. It consumes no additional
space initially and is created
  instantly. The snapshot starts consuming space when the data that is being
snapshot changes. So snapshots can
  be used for backup. Snapshots can also be used as means to collaborate
over a project with the zfs *send* and *receive* commands.

* 
Cloneshttp://docs.huihoo.com/opensolaris/solaris-zfs-administration-guide/html/ch06s02.html:
A clone is a writable copy of a filesystem. It is created instantly and
initially occupies no space
  ( because ZFS implements the
copy-on-writehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZFS#Copy-on-write_transactional_modelidiom
).

* ZFS has no notion of formatting.

I had taken a VBox image of BeneliX from Sriram (comes in two DVDs). I tried
installing BeneliX onto it VBox complained
that it could not detect any boot medium. I will try to figure out the
problem soon.

Thanks to Sriram and Moinak for introducing us to this wonderful technology.


On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Sriram Narayanan sriram...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi,
   I had some stuff to take care of and was too tired to attend the
  meeting. How did it go? Any tidbits that the list might benefit from?
 

 The opencalais session was good. I'm going to tell my colleagues about
 this, and they'd surely explore it more.

 Anand and Ramdas have asked that we have sessions again with more
 detail. I agree, since the scant amount of ZFS that I showcased today
 was in itself radically different from what we all know from other
 file systems.

 I request feedback from other attendees on today's ZFS session. Please
 let me know what else you'd have liked me to cover at an introduction
 level.

 -- Sriram
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