Re: Barebones Website

[Jan Erik Moström]

On 17 Dec 2019, at 0:30, Lawrence Salberg wrote:

> Does no one actually use BBEdit to build websites anymore? Even simple
> ones?

It all depends on how the site works/looks like:

- My main site that rarely changes: BBEdit
- My main blog: BBEdit + Blot
- My micro blog: micro.blog
- A site that I'm currently trying to bring to life: Ulysses + WordPress
- A larger tutorial site that I'm working on: BBEdit + Hugo
- Course sites at work: BBEdit + sometimes the CMS we are supposed to use.

= jem

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Re: Zettelkasten

[Jan Erik Moström]

On 17 Dec 2019, at 0:07, Lawrence Salberg wrote:

In other words, when/if I can ever figure out how to remove line 
numbers,

use a nicer font and size (like IA Writer's DuoType), and other
adjustments, I might even use BBEdit for long-form writing, too.


Take a look at "Languages" and "Text Colors" to do this, I have it set 
up to use different colors, font size and some other small stuff for 
Markdown, Python, and Text Files.


= jem

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Re: Barebones Website

[Bill Kochman]

Lawrence, in regards to your question, the last time that I used an all-in-one  
website creation app was with Adobe PageMill, which was discontinued at version 
three about twenty years ago. The thing about it though, was that, as I learned 
later, PageMill inserted a lot of unnecessary, proprietary HTML code in the 
pages that it created. While I do run a self-installed WordPress blog, since 
leaving PageMill behind years ago, I have depended upon the following software 
suite to create all of my web pages for my main website:

BBEdit: all HTML docs are made in BBEdit, and there are thousands of them.

Balthisar Tidy for Work: all HTML checking and automatic correcting is done in 
this app.

Adobe Photoshop: all graphics are created in this app.

ImageOptim: all images are optimized n this app to meet Googe’s AMP 
requirements.

While I rarely do it anymore — being as many of my pages are made from previous 
pages/templates — occasionally I will also run my pages through Google’s online 
AMP validator. For Facebook, I also run my new pages through Facebook’s Sharing 
Debugger and the Open Graph Object Debugger.

BBEdit has been an indispensable part of my workflow for many years.

Kind regards,

Bill Kochman
Bill’s Bible Basics
wordweaver...@gmail.com
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> On Dec 17, 2019, at 9:30 AM, Lawrence Salberg  wrote:

> Does no one actually use BBEdit to build websites anymore? Even simple ones? 
> Is everything a CMS now (and I'm a CMS expert, but still... I hate them and 
> they drag on performance for simple sites).


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Re: Barebones Website

[Charlie Garrison]

On 17 Dec 2019, at 10:30, Lawrence Salberg wrote:


Does no one actually use BBEdit to build websites anymore?


My daily work is building and maintaining (not simple) web sites. BBEdit 
is the most important tool I use; can't imagine getting my work done 
without it.


-cng

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Re: json folding

[Charlie Garrison]

On 17 Dec 2019, at 10:22, Lee Hinde wrote:


And folding is back in today's update.


Yep, I saw that too. And can confirm I can make JSON collapse again. :-)

Seems that BBSW team have taken to mind-reading now. All I have to do is 
__think__ about sending report to support. ;-)


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Re: Barebones Website

[Jean-Christophe Helary]

> On Dec 17, 2019, at 8:30, Lawrence Salberg  wrote:
> 
> Does no one actually use BBEdit to build websites anymore?

Probably, and other editors too.
Not only for HTML/CSS but also for JS/PHP I guess.

> Even simple ones?

Define "simple". Last time I created a site it was on WP and even if the 
structure was "simple", nothing in the site itself was simple. There is no way 
I could reproduce that site by just typing things in my editor of choice.

> Is everything a CMS now

No. Or maybe not "WP/Drupal" like CMS. There are static CMS too. And there are 
complex sites too that don't depend on CMS.

> (and I'm a CMS expert, but still... I hate them and they drag on performance 
> for simple sites).

Then get back to the basics... :)


Jean-Christophe Helary
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Re: Barebones Website

[Patrick Woolsey]

On 12/16/19 at 6:30 PM, lwrncsl...@gmail.com (Lawrence Salberg) wrote:


I'd love to know how Barebones themselves create/edit their website.


With BBEdit, naturally :-)

https://www.barebones.com/company/sitecredits.html


I've also noticed a lot of dead links (mostly on the extras 
wiki, but still...) and wonder what their process if for 
keeping their site fresh.


Since the BBEdit Extras wiki is not an official resource, I 
regret I can't help you there, but since on the other hand it 
*is* a wiki, anyone who's willing to work on it is welcome to. :-)



Does no one actually use BBEdit to build websites anymore? Even 
simple ones? Is everything a CMS now (and I'm a CMS expert, but 
still... I hate them and they drag on performance for simple sites).


Judging from the support questions we get, there are still a 
goodly number of folks doing so.



Regards

 Patrick Woolsey
==
Bare Bones Software, Inc. 

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A simple codeless language module for Gradle build file type

[Paul Furbacher]

Hi, 

Just dropping by to say that I created a simple codeless language module 
for creating and saving new Gradle build files. Primarily, it was created 
so that I could save a new build file with the ".gradle" extension (BBEdit 
kept tacking ".txt" onto "build.gradle"!)

You can get it here: 

https://github.com/pfurbacher/bbedit_gradle

I added single line and block comment prefixes and suffix. But that's it. 
As the readme file says, no syntax coloring or keywords, or anything more 
sophisticated, has been added. 

If someone here can update the BBEdit Wiki page for Codeless Language 
Modules 
(http://bbeditextras.org/wiki/index.php?title=Codeless_Language_Modules) to 
add this module, I'd appreciate it.

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Re: Zettelkasten

[Lawrence Salberg]

I find this topic fascinating. A "personal wiki" is not done well, IMHO, by 
any tools, and I agree with Roland that our "data" needs to be in something 
not bound to a specific tool (probably plain-text, or at least HTML).

I'm not clear what the differences are between a zettekasten and a personal 
wiki, but I can pronounce the latter, so I'll use that here. But if anyone 
can explain to me how it fundamentally differs, I'd like to know. 

I'm not a BBEdit expert, but I try to use it for everything, except for 
long-form text within IA Writer, but that's only because I have yet to 
figure out how to make BBEdit have a different look and feel by filetype. 
In other words, when/if I can ever figure out how to remove line numbers, 
use a nicer font and size (like IA Writer's DuoType), and other 
adjustments, I might even use BBEdit for long-form writing, too.

However, I do know that in relation to Roland's first "weak point" about 
BBEdit, that there is searching just across a single project (Cmd-Shift-F). 
You don't even have to have the project defined as a technical "project" 
per BBEdit's project features. You can search across multiple distinct 
(separate) projects all at once, too, so that you could have, for instance, 
4 or 5 different "personal wikis" (maybe one for work, one for home, etc) 
and search across all of them, even if they aren't in the same path or are 
scattered about your hard drive. 

Yes, I said hard drive. I'm dating myself.

 (See page 154 onward in the manual for 12.6.7 for details).

Then, once you go through the "hassle" (by which I mean, several clicks of 
the mouse, which in our day constitutes cruel and unusual punishment to 
those under the age of 30) of doing a search of your Personal Wiki, then 
you can set it as a Saved Search. 

Once you see a past or Saved Search in your BBEdit menu, then you can 
assign a keyboard shortcut to it. That is done in a few clicks via OS X in 
the Keyboard Settings. You can use Keyboard Maestro or other apps, but for 
creating a simple shortcut, I haven't found any reason to breach the 
confines of OS X itself. 

So, then you can just type your custom shortcut to do a custom search 
across all your files (or even folders, projects, etc) for your Personal 
Wiki.

HOWEVER, you must type most of your search term or word, and then press 
RETURN. I'm so sorry. The beauty is you get that amazing Search Results 
pane in BBEdit, but if you just wanted to type a few characters, and then a 
tab or down-arrow to a file, and have it open up, it won't work like that.

You can down-arrow in that results pane and examine a big chunk of each 
document that is returned, or as is often the case, each section of a 
document when your search term is on multiple lines of a single document. 
When you're done, you can either press RETURN again to open the document in 
your main window (and it will open with that relevant line highlighted and 
your search phrase selected (try that, you other quick search features in 
other programs), such that if you start typing before arrowing or pressing 
escape, you can begin to replace that line of text. Normally, you'd 
probably never do that (instead using find/replace features), but I imagine 
there are some use cases for it. If instead, you just want to go to the top 
or bottom of that document, once opened, press Cmd-Up or Cmd-Down.

So, to reiterate, Special Hotkey, type search phrase, press Enter, press Up 
or Down to get to document you want, press Enter to Open, and then navigate 
in document normally. No mouse required. 

Another good thing about this approach is that you can just close the 
search window with Cmd-W, and you are back to your Multi-File Search modal 
window again, Type another search phrase, or press Cmd-W again to go back 
to whatever you were doing before.

NOW! (Whew!), you also have the power of Grep. I doubt things like Atom and 
others have that built-in (but I don't know so don't sue me). I also don't 
USE Grep myself, because I'm not that geeky yet, but I love knowing that if 
I ever get into trouble and really need it, it's very close by. For a 
Personal Wiki, I would imagine if you need Grep, you have truly lost your 
documents... ha ha. Or your mind. 

What I don't think BBEdit has, as Roland pointed out, is "live search" (or 
instant), the kind we get from Cmd-Space (Spotlight) and other modern 
search engine style features. Personally, I'm not a fan of it on the web as 
it distracts me from what I actually wanted to find, because I have to 
endure the plebeian masses "most popular" searches. (Try typing "die", the 
first three letters of diet, into Google, and watch what it THINKS I'm 
looking for). Anyway, I digress.

There is a live search feature in BBEdit (Option-Cmd-F), but it is only for 
the present document (as near as I can tell). The option above, for me 
anyway, is more than sufficient. 

However, that may be because I'm not doing zettelkasten correctly. I have 
seen for 

Re: json folding

[Lee Hinde]

And folding is back in today's update.

On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 5:23 PM Lee Hinde  wrote:

> Is there a switch to turn on folding in json files?
>

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Barebones Website

[Lawrence Salberg]

I'd love to know how Barebones themselves create/edit their website. 

I noticed initially that the generator tag is not on their website. For 
some reason, mine always says "BBEdit 8.5", even though I'm on 12.6.7. 

I can not find out where/how that is being put into my HTML template. I'm 
going to try a reinstall as maybe I have old files in my library, but even 
a global search for it turned up empty-handed.

I've also noticed a lot of dead links (mostly on the extras wiki, but 
still...) and wonder what their process if for keeping their site fresh. 
There's great documentation on BBEdit, or so everyone says, but the site 
always kind of drives me a bit batty.

Does no one actually use BBEdit to build websites anymore? Even simple 
ones? Is everything a CMS now (and I'm a CMS expert, but still... I hate 
them and they drag on performance for simple sites). 

But if Barebones themselves aren't using BBEdit, I don't know... I kind of 
would like to know, I guess. Anyone know about this?

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Re: Zettelkasten

[Roland Küffner]

Hi Christopher,

I'm actually doing a home brewn approach to a zettelkasten system. The main
things are there: just one repository (folder) and date based id's in the
file names.

Here are some thoughts that you may also read as tipps:


   - My most important advice would be: do not relate on one app. As
   astounding as BBEdit is, it hast some weak points (please forgive me this
   heresy) when it comes to the special needs of a zettelkasten:
  - instant searching your notes (preferable with a system wide hot
  key) - I use nvALT for that, it still holds the crown in that ballpark
  (some kind of a Live Search for project files would be a nice addition to
  BBEdit (at least for my needs))
  - #hashtag support out of the box (you might try The Archive for that)
  - [[WikiLink-Support]] - again, nvALT is good at this
   - I also use BBEdit heavily on my zettelkasten as it is my main tool
   when it comes to editing text. Here are some minor twists that help me
   - I recorded a "Find Next WikiLink" script: just start a recording in
  the Script Editor, switch to BBEdit and perform a search for \[\[.+?\]\]
  - … or hit cmd+B when inside a [[WikiLink]]
  - "Open File by Name" (cmd+D by default) opens other files quickly
  - I use a BBEdit project for my zettelkasten. They allow you to use
  containers to create temporalily hierarchical structures - without
  rearranging your files (I'm not too dogmatic about the no-subfolder-rule)
  - Filters are also a great tool for working with a zettelkasten - I
  set up a few filters that simply search for text contents (mostly for
  hashtags like #project_xy). This narrows down the file list in a project.
   - Last but not least, I rely on Keyboard Maestro (honestly I can not
   imagine using a Mac without it): if you don't know it, in very short words:
   it is a macro utility (and so much more).
   - It nicely handles the creation of new zettel files - including the
  creation of a time based id in the file name
  - It is also easy to set up a macro that creates a new file and
  copies the current selection to it - giving me a system wide
snippet saving
  tool
  - It communicates nicely with BBEdit: it can access BBEdit's Text
  Factories to achieve all kinds of text processing needs, even if
you are in
  some other app (an example: I have a macro that uses a Text Factory to
  extract all [[WikiLinks]] of the frontmost text document and to provide a
  nice Spotlight-like search bar for navigating and opening one of it)

So this might not be the solution you are looking for, but in my opinion
BBEdit is a strong chain link in a zettelkasten system that is even more
fertile when brought together with other good tools. And at the end of the
day it is the beauty of plain text that makes this freedom a joy (and one
of the reasons I still like and use BBEdit so much).

Regards
Roland


On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 10:38 PM Christopher H.  wrote:

> All,
>
> I am wondering if anybody has experience using BBEdit as their primary
> location for a Zettelkasten-based note-taking system? For the uninitiated,
> Zettelkasten is just another way of keeping track of notes and ideas
>  - a system rather than a piece of software.
> It's described thoroughly in English in the book *How to Take Smart Notes*
>  by Sönke Ahrens
> , and while
> there are now a few pieces of primary software that have been built around
> the general principles of the Zettelkasten, others have ported the system
> to their text editor of choice - such as has been done with Sublime Text
> .
>
> I would love to have this functionality ported to BBEdit rather than using
> a separate piece of software, if anybody is aware of efforts to do so. The
> primary features required are related to automatic ID generation for the
> file as well as incorporation of wiki-style links.
>
> - Christopher H.
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