Re: Are there any special features about this code editor?

2017-11-30 Thread Jean-Christophe Helary 


> On Nov 30, 2017, at 22:44, Roland Küffner  wrote:
> 
> for a really comprehensible comparison, see:
> https://kieranhealy.org/blog/archives/2011/07/29/text-editors-in-the-lord-of-the-rings/
>  
> 

Although arguably a better essay by Healy is:
https://kieranhealy.org/blog/archives/2011/07/17/what-i-mean-is-that-i-have-marx-in-my-bones-and-you-have-him-in-your-mouth/

where he makes a parallel between having Marx in your mouth vs having him in 
your bones and Brad Delong's critique of David Harvey.

And I'm sure he wrote that in BBEdit.

So I guess another feature of the beast is:

• You can write powerful critiques of false marxists with it.
  (or other really cool and/or earth shattering things)


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Re: Are there any special features about this code editor?

2017-11-30 Thread jgill 
Madelyn, you don't work for Barebone's PR agency by any chance? If so, you 
are doing a great job ;?)


On Monday, November 27, 2017 at 4:52:32 PM UTC, Madelyn Bingham wrote:
>
> Can someone tell me what makes BBEdit different or better than other code 
> editors? I understand it is mostly geared towards Apple Products, but I 
> could just as easily download Notepad++ or Brackets on my Macintosh, which 
> seem to be more popular. Are there any special features about BBEdit that 
> make it special or set it apart? What are some tips and tricks to using 
> this code editor?
>

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Re: Are there any special features about this code editor?

2017-11-28 Thread Mark Damon Hughes 
On Nov 27, 2017, at 08:51, Madelyn Bingham  wrote:
> 
> Can someone tell me what makes BBEdit different or better than other code 
> editors? I understand it is mostly geared towards Apple Products, but I could 
> just as easily download Notepad++ or Brackets on my Macintosh, which seem to 
> be more popular. Are there any special features about BBEdit that make it 
> special or set it apart? What are some tips and tricks to using this code 
> editor?

Plenty of others have echoed my thoughts, especially as Kerri mentions opening 
gigantic files and doing search & replace, which kills most other editors.

I use the text filters (writing shell scripts/Python to process my text) 
constantly.

But the biggest ones are speed and stability. I type fast, and expect to be 
able to jump around in a document tree, and see a live preview when writing 
Markdown. Atom with a bunch of plugins is about as good as BBEdit for complex 
code and regex work, but it's unusable on big files, can slow down to a dead 
crawl, the syntax coloring can die and need a reload, and it's generally flaky, 
whereas BBEdit keeps up and keeps working. It's the Terminator of text editors.

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Re: Are there any special features about this code editor?

2017-11-27 Thread Charlie Garrison 

On 28 Nov 2017, at 6:00, Steve deRosier wrote:


* Command-line starting - I can ssh into my Linux development machine,
type "bbedit filename.c" and though some shell script magic it can ssh
back to my Mac and open the file remotely in BBEdit. Same deal with
using it as my CSCOPE_EDITOR.


Have you tried `rbbedit`?

- https://github.com/cngarrison/rbbedit

It’s a formalised version of “through some shell script magic it can 
ssh back to my Mac”, but has additional ‘copy methods’ such as scp 
and rsync.



* Network - Editing works the same no matter if it's a local file, a
file over NFS or SFTP.


Or a remote volume mounted using ExpanDrive, which rbbedit also 
supports.  ;-)


-cng

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Re: Are there any special features about this code editor?

2017-11-27 Thread Jean-Christophe Helary 


> On Nov 28, 2017, at 1:51, Madelyn Bingham  wrote:
> 
> Are there any special features about BBEdit that make it special or set it 
> apart?

Applescript support, integration with the system, as Christopher described.

As far as "text editing" proper is concerned, even TextEdit covers most of the 
basic needs of a writer.

BBEdit's core functions cover *anything* a coder in any language needs.
BBEdit also has a lot of HTML editing related functions.

The only "serious" editing thing I don't do in BBEdit is validate and correct 
xml files. The day BBEdit offers a solution similar to Emacs' nxml mode I'll 
quit using Emacs for that (maybe it's there but I've not found it).

> What are some tips and tricks to using this code editor?

1) Check the (excellent) manual for complex tasks that you'd like to accomplish.
2) Ask here.



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Re: Are there any special features about this code editor?

2017-11-27 Thread Christopher Stone 
On 11/27/2017, at 10:51, Madelyn Bingham > wrote:
> Can someone tell me what makes BBEdit different or better than other code 
> editors?


Hey Madelyn,

There are a number of good text editors available for the Mac, and some have 
various features or eye candy that BBEdit doesn't.

But...

No other text editor on the Mac has the amount of focussed power BBEdit does.

All of the built-in text processing and development tools are extremely 
powerful and relatively easy to use.

Text Factories allow laymen to do sophisticated text processing.

Text Filters allow any language runnable from the shell to interact with 
documents.

Shell worksheets facilitate shell script development and various shell-related 
tasks.

BBEdit is one of the most AppleScriptable apps on the planet, so users can 
automate and systematize and customize and get work done in various ways other 
editors can't match.

I've used it since somewhere around 1992.

I try out anything that looks interesting - Brackets, Atom, MacVim, Sublime 
Text, Textastic, TextMate, UltraEdit...

But so far I've always come back to BBEdit.

It runs 24/7 on my system.

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Re: Are there any special features about this code editor?

2017-11-27 Thread Steve deRosier 
Throwing my thoughts in the ring, I use BBEdit extensively for nearly
everything I do. My primary activities are in the embedded programming
domain, and I use it heavily in Linux kernel driver programming. I
regard the Mac and BBEdit as a superior platform (for me) for Linux
kernel development than Linux itself; I know that would be considered
blasphemy by some of the community, but I care about effectiveness and
it works for me. Also, I do a fair amount of pure bare-metal coding
with it.  I do Python test frameworks for my work. And some standard
LAMP stack coding. And then there's documentation in Markdown and
reStructuredText.

In short, BBEdit is my swiss-army-knife for getting things done. It's
language and style agnostic. It's got a thin footprint. I can open
100s of files in dozens of document windows. It has a project
management structure that just works but doesn't give my computer fits
(I don't know if it is still an issue, but 10 years ago, trying to
open the Linux kernel as a project in Eclipse ment my computer would
grind for 40 minutes before I could touch a line of code). And it
works the way I do - centralized on my Mac but attached and working
with multiple computers and VMs.

Features I use most:
* Powerful searching - multiple files, projects, single file. Very
flexible to tell it what to search and in what files. And it remembers
your history.
* Command-line starting - I can ssh into my Linux development machine,
type "bbedit filename.c" and though some shell script magic it can ssh
back to my Mac and open the file remotely in BBEdit. Same deal with
using it as my CSCOPE_EDITOR.
* Projects
* Network - Editing works the same no matter if it's a local file, a
file over NFS or SFTP.
* Languages - A typical project for me includes C, C++, Python,
Makefiles, CMake, Bash or Ash scripts, ASM, Markdown, HTML, CSS, and
PHP. BBEdit lets me work seamlessly with all of it.
* And it's good at the small stuff - I use it often for processing log
files, or even silly things like reformatting emails with inserting
quote marks '> ' using the "Prefix/Suffix Lines..." feature in the
Text menu. It's easier than using awk/sed.

Use it or don't use it, doesn't matter to me. I will use it because
it's the best tool for the job.



On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 10:34 AM, François Schiettecatte
 wrote:
> Hi
>
> I code for a living and have been using BBEdit pretty much since it was ‘a 
> thing’, it runs on Macs only but all the work I do is on Linux. Everyone once 
> in a while I take a look around to see what else there is, mostly as an 
> insurance policy (the 90’s were a dark time for Macintosh), but for what I do 
> there is nothing that comes even close, and I use probably 60%-70% of the 
> features it offers. If I was going to put my finger on one feature it would 
> be Projects, they allow me to manage multiple code bases very easily 
> (combined line count is closing in on 7 digits).
>
> Ultimately it comes down to what you are looking for. If you want to edit a 
> few files there are a myriad of choices out there. If you make your living 
> coding then BBEdit is great and time put into learning it is well rewarded in 
> the long run.
>
> François
>
>> On Nov 27, 2017, at 8:51 AM, Madelyn Bingham  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Can someone tell me what makes BBEdit different or better than other code 
>> editors? I understand it is mostly geared towards Apple Products, but I 
>> could just as easily download Notepad++ or Brackets on my Macintosh, which 
>> seem to be more popular. Are there any special features about BBEdit that 
>> make it special or set it apart? What are some tips and tricks to using this 
>> code editor?
>>
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Re: Are there any special features about this code editor?

2017-11-27 Thread François Schiettecatte 
Hi

I code for a living and have been using BBEdit pretty much since it was ‘a 
thing’, it runs on Macs only but all the work I do is on Linux. Everyone once 
in a while I take a look around to see what else there is, mostly as an 
insurance policy (the 90’s were a dark time for Macintosh), but for what I do 
there is nothing that comes even close, and I use probably 60%-70% of the 
features it offers. If I was going to put my finger on one feature it would be 
Projects, they allow me to manage multiple code bases very easily (combined 
line count is closing in on 7 digits).

Ultimately it comes down to what you are looking for. If you want to edit a few 
files there are a myriad of choices out there. If you make your living coding 
then BBEdit is great and time put into learning it is well rewarded in the long 
run.

François

> On Nov 27, 2017, at 8:51 AM, Madelyn Bingham  
> wrote:
> 
> Can someone tell me what makes BBEdit different or better than other code 
> editors? I understand it is mostly geared towards Apple Products, but I could 
> just as easily download Notepad++ or Brackets on my Macintosh, which seem to 
> be more popular. Are there any special features about BBEdit that make it 
> special or set it apart? What are some tips and tricks to using this code 
> editor?
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Re: Are there any special features about this code editor?

2017-11-27 Thread Kyle DeMilo 
If I could throw my hat in the ring, I don't code — and I'm probably
using BBEdit all wrong, but I use it with the Project view to store text
files with all kinds of notes on my job, as well as notes for each ticket I
have to deal with at my 9-to-5.

Could I do it with a cheaper solution? Probably, but BBEdit allows me to do
it all with a minimum of chrome, fuss, and formatting. For me, that's worth
every penny.

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Re: Are there any special features about this code editor?

2017-11-27 Thread Bucky Junior 
Whew! This is bound to bring out the evangelists.

First, BBEdit is Mac OS only. Notepad++is Windows only and Brackets appears to 
be platform agnostic. I’ve not tried either of those.

BBEdit is, to say the least, powerful. I’m not a heavy weight user and only use 
a fraction of what the program is capable of doing. Without making lists here, 
you can view the seven chapter product tour starting at 
>. I see a link 
to Testimonials on that page too.

I only write and maintain a few web sites and _might_ be able to do my work 
with a lesser product but having all the options are worth it to me. My 
daughter uses a much more expensive Adobe product (more of a WYSIWYG interface) 
but I prefer cleaner coding that I get with BBEdit.

Tips and tricks? Read the manual and try things out. Read the product tour and 
pick out things that appeal to your method of working. Pick out things that 
will solve problems for you. Read the manual and try things out. Continue 
monitoring this group because there are some wonderful helpful people here.
> On Nov 27, 2017, at 9:51 AM, Madelyn Bingham  
> wrote:
> 
> Can someone tell me what makes BBEdit different or better than other code 
> editors? I understand it is mostly geared towards Apple Products, but I could 
> just as easily download Notepad++ or Brackets on my Macintosh, which seem to 
> be more popular. Are there any special features about BBEdit that make it 
> special or set it apart? What are some tips and tricks to using this code 
> editor?
> 
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