Re: BBedit vs. textmate
At 09:50 p -0500 11/11/2008, Aaron W. Hsu didst inscribe upon an electronic papyrus: On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 13:10:25 -0800 Lee Hinde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a project now that requires me to go on-site one day a week. When I get back, I duplicate my current web folder and then copy over the files from my remote work. When I open the project file, it refers to my now out-of-date files rather than my now current files. I have to say I would consider this a bug in BBEdit; if BBEdit professes to adhere to the Mac way of doing things, then this shouldn't happen. From my understanding of how Mac file pointers and the like should work, standard behavior for a program when using these pointers is to grab the file from its new location only if the old location does not have a newly placed file. That is, referencing a file in /blah/x should only go to /blah_me/y (to which an old /blah/x was moved) if /blah/x does not exist. Someone feel free to correct my understanding of the issue. Thus, in projects, I would expect BBEdit to follow the files if and only if these files were not overwritten by newer files in their old locations. Well, that is true. It sounds like Lee did it the correct way, which is: 1. Copy folder to elsewhere 2. Replace files in *original* folder (not the copy, regardless of its name) I don't know why this would fail on an OS level, nevermind BBEdit. It doesn't make sense. -W --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BBEdit Talk group. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a specific feature request or would like to report a suspected (or confirmed) problem with the software, please email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] rather than posting to the group. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: BBedit vs. textmate
On 11-Nov-2008, at 14:10, Lee Hinde wrote: (comments about version control will be considered non-responsive. :-) I'm lucky to get web access at the client site, much less be able to access an svn repository.) You can run SVN locally... -- Is this the light of a new day dawning? A future bright that you can walk in? No, it's just another Monday Morning, do it all over again! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BBEdit Talk group. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a specific feature request or would like to report a suspected (or confirmed) problem with the software, please email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] rather than posting to the group. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: BBedit vs. textmate
On 11/11/08 at 4:10 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lee Hinde) wrote: Is there a way to get projects to use relative paths to files, ala TM? Not today, no; but we're looking at doing so as an enhancement to the project file format. R. -- Rich Siegel Bare Bones Software, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.barebones.com/ Someday I'll look back on all this and laugh... until they sedate me. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BBEdit Talk group. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a specific feature request or would like to report a suspected (or confirmed) problem with the software, please email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] rather than posting to the group. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: BBedit vs. textmate
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 1:57 PM, Rich Siegel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/11/08 at 4:10 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lee Hinde) wrote: Is there a way to get projects to use relative paths to files, ala TM? Not today, no; but we're looking at doing so as an enhancement to the project file format. R. -- Rich Siegel Bare Bones Software, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.barebones.com/ Perfect; thanks. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BBEdit Talk group. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a specific feature request or would like to report a suspected (or confirmed) problem with the software, please email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] rather than posting to the group. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: BBedit vs. textmate
On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 13:10:25 -0800 Lee Hinde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a project now that requires me to go on-site one day a week. When I get back, I duplicate my current web folder and then copy over the files from my remote work. When I open the project file, it refers to my now out-of-date files rather than my now current files. I have to say I would consider this a bug in BBEdit; if BBEdit professes to adhere to the Mac way of doing things, then this shouldn't happen. From my understanding of how Mac file pointers and the like should work, standard behavior for a program when using these pointers is to grab the file from its new location only if the old location does not have a newly placed file. That is, referencing a file in /blah/x should only go to /blah_me/y (to which an old /blah/x was moved) if /blah/x does not exist. Someone feel free to correct my understanding of the issue. Thus, in projects, I would expect BBEdit to follow the files if and only if these files were not overwritten by newer files in their old locations. -- Aaron W. Hsu [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.sacrideo.us Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else. -- Frederic Bastiat +++ ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) ++ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BBEdit Talk group. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a specific feature request or would like to report a suspected (or confirmed) problem with the software, please email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] rather than posting to the group. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: BBedit vs. textmate
On Nov 9, 2008, at 9:43 PM, Steve Piercy wrote: On Nov 9, 5:23 am, Jim Correia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Un/Comment... command on the Text menu in BBEdit does language aware un/commenting. I write code in Lasso, and use the Un/Comment, but it uses the wrong style of commenting: !-- -- In Preferences Languages Installed Languages Options... General Comment Start: /* Comment End: */ What am I missing? If you are using a custom language module, and the document is currently using that module, the comment delimiters from the preferences should be picked up. (I verified that it is working correctly for me.) If you are running into a problem, please contact support so we can diagnose the problem. Jim --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BBEdit Talk group. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a specific feature request or would like to report a suspected (or confirmed) problem with the software, please email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] rather than posting to the group. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: BBedit vs. textmate
On Nov 10, 9:27 am, Steve Piercy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Un/Comment... command on the Text menu in BBEdit does language aware un/commenting. I write code in Lasso, and use the Un/Comment, but it uses the wrong style of commenting: !-- -- In Preferences Languages Installed Languages Options... General Comment Start: /* Comment End: */ What am I missing? If you are using a custom language module, and the document is currently using that module, the comment delimiters from the preferences should be picked up. (I verified that it is working correctly for me.) If you are running into a problem, please contact support so we can diagnose the problem. Thanks, Jim. Yes, I'm using a CLM and it is not picking up the comment delimiters from the .plist. Jim pointed me in the right direction. Thanks, Jim! I had assumed incorrectly that the HTML palette Un/Comment was the same as the Text menu Un/Comment. --steve --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BBEdit Talk group. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a specific feature request or would like to report a suspected (or confirmed) problem with the software, please email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] rather than posting to the group. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: BBedit vs. textmate
On Nov 10, 9:14 am, Jim Correia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 9, 2008, at 9:43 PM, Steve Piercy wrote: On Nov 9, 5:23 am, Jim Correia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Un/Comment... command on the Text menu in BBEdit does language aware un/commenting. I write code in Lasso, and use the Un/Comment, but it uses the wrong style of commenting: !-- -- In Preferences Languages Installed Languages Options... General Comment Start: /* Comment End: */ What am I missing? If you are using a custom language module, and the document is currently using that module, the comment delimiters from the preferences should be picked up. (I verified that it is working correctly for me.) If you are running into a problem, please contact support so we can diagnose the problem. Thanks, Jim. Yes, I'm using a CLM and it is not picking up the comment delimiters from the .plist. I've contacted support. --steve --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BBEdit Talk group. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a specific feature request or would like to report a suspected (or confirmed) problem with the software, please email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] rather than posting to the group. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: BBedit vs. textmate
Thanks for the review. I opted to take the plunge and purchase BBedit, I've been comparing features and usage between BBedit and textmate and found BBedit has a lot more going for it :) On Nov 8, 2008, at 1:04 PM, Dennis wrote: On Nov 7, 2008, at 4:43 AM, maflynn wrote: I'm wondering if there's any resources available to compare bbedit against textmate. Here's a review I wrote on VersionTracker in August 2007 comparing BBEdit and TextMate. It's slightly out of date (especially with the release of BBEdit 9) but still holds true, I think. Anyway, take it for what it's worth: http://www.versiontracker.com/php/feedback/article.php?story=20070806114522845 -Dennis --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BBEdit Talk group. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a specific feature request or would like to report a suspected (or confirmed) problem with the software, please email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] rather than posting to the group. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: BBedit vs. textmate
On Nov 8, 2008, at 11:04 PM, Lee Hinde wrote: Command-/ comments text and TextMate is smart enough to figure out what kind of comment I need. Even if I'm in an html doc and I'm commenting some in-line javascript or css, TM does the right thing. The Un/Comment... command on the Text menu in BBEdit does language aware un/commenting. You can assign a keyboard equivalent to it view Preferences - Menus. Jim --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BBEdit Talk group. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a specific feature request or would like to report a suspected (or confirmed) problem with the software, please email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] rather than posting to the group. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: BBedit vs. textmate
On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 8:23 AM, Jim Correia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 8, 2008, at 11:04 PM, Lee Hinde wrote: Command-/ comments text and TextMate is smart enough to figure out what kind of comment I need. Even if I'm in an html doc and I'm commenting some in-line javascript or css, TM does the right thing. The Un/Comment... command on the Text menu in BBEdit does language aware un/commenting. You can assign a keyboard equivalent to it view Preferences - Menus. When I reinstall BBEdit on a new machine, the first thing I do is remap Un/Comment to command-shift-c. :-) --Kerri --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BBEdit Talk group. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a specific feature request or would like to report a suspected (or confirmed) problem with the software, please email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] rather than posting to the group. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: BBedit vs. textmate
On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 5:23 AM, Jim Correia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 8, 2008, at 11:04 PM, Lee Hinde wrote: Command-/ comments text and TextMate is smart enough to figure out what kind of comment I need. Even if I'm in an html doc and I'm commenting some in-line javascript or css, TM does the right thing. The Un/Comment... command on the Text menu in BBEdit does language aware un/commenting. You can assign a keyboard equivalent to it view Preferences - Menus. Thanks. I'd been using the comment button in the html palette. (yes, I know it's an 'html' palette, but a guy can hope, right?) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BBEdit Talk group. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a specific feature request or would like to report a suspected (or confirmed) problem with the software, please email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] rather than posting to the group. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: BBedit vs. textmate
On Nov 8, 3:07 pm, Michael Flynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the review. I opted to take the plunge and purchase BBedit, I've been comparing features and usage between BBedit and textmate and found BBedit has a lot more going for it :) I'm writing from my phone, but to echo many of the things said: Hotkey the un/comment command Set open the HTML an CSA palettes Use projects to manage your files for easiest access If you really liked autocompletes in textmate you may not be as pleased in bbedit; but it's still very usable and can be customized to your likes. I couple it with transmit for FTP when not on version control. You won't look back- it's a tremendous tool. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BBEdit Talk group. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a specific feature request or would like to report a suspected (or confirmed) problem with the software, please email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] rather than posting to the group. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: BBedit vs. textmate
On Nov 9, 5:23 am, Jim Correia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Un/Comment... command on the Text menu in BBEdit does language aware un/commenting. I write code in Lasso, and use the Un/Comment, but it uses the wrong style of commenting: !-- -- In Preferences Languages Installed Languages Options... General Comment Start: /* Comment End: */ What am I missing? --steve --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BBEdit Talk group. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a specific feature request or would like to report a suspected (or confirmed) problem with the software, please email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] rather than posting to the group. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: BBedit vs. textmate
On Nov 7, 2008, at 4:43 AM, maflynn wrote: I'm wondering if there's any resources available to compare bbedit against textmate. Here's a review I wrote on VersionTracker in August 2007 comparing BBEdit and TextMate. It's slightly out of date (especially with the release of BBEdit 9) but still holds true, I think. Anyway, take it for what it's worth: http://www.versiontracker.com/php/feedback/article.php?story=20070806114522845 -Dennis --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BBEdit Talk group. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a specific feature request or would like to report a suspected (or confirmed) problem with the software, please email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] rather than posting to the group. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: BBedit vs. textmate
Hi I think that is a very good review. I would add that with BBEdit there are great palettes and toolbars. I have Text Factories, Clippings and Scripts palettes open most of the time. I can't remember key short- cuts very well and so I like to have the commands for my customisation appear in the palettes. The palettes readymade by BBEdit are also very useful. Some people like to use a CSS editor for editing CSS such as CSSEdit, but personally I find that simply using BBEdit's CSS palette suits me better. I like to just have it floating around when I'm mucking about with CSS. It reminds me of all that is available and seems to me to be a very neat CSS assistant. Patrick http://www.patrickjames.co.uk On 8 Nov 2008, at 18:04, Dennis wrote: Here's a review I wrote on VersionTracker in August 2007 comparing BBEdit and TextMate. It's slightly out of date (especially with the release of BBEdit 9) but still holds true, I think. Anyway, take it for what it's worth: http://www.versiontracker.com/php/feedback/article.php?story=20070806114522845 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BBEdit Talk group. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a specific feature request or would like to report a suspected (or confirmed) problem with the software, please email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] rather than posting to the group. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: BBedit vs. textmate
On Nov 8, 2008, at 12:26 PM, Patrick James wrote: Some people like to use a CSS editor for editing CSS such as CSSEdit, but personally I find that simply using BBEdit's CSS palette suits me better. I like to just have it floating around when I'm mucking about with CSS. It reminds me of all that is available and seems to me to be a very neat CSS assistant. You're right, Patrick, I overlooked the palettes. I tend to favor keyboard shortcuts myself, but the palettes are very useful. Also, some might not realize that BBEdit's Markup - Tag Maker… command also works with CSS. It does a great job of listing all the available properties for the current selector, and it can be accessed entirely from the keyboard if you prefer that approach. -Dennis --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BBEdit Talk group. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a specific feature request or would like to report a suspected (or confirmed) problem with the software, please email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] rather than posting to the group. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
