Re: Per document tab widths
Here's a script that to set the tab width for a document with a
dialog.
--CODE BEGINS
(* Set document tab width in BBEdit
Most is copied from Marcus Garvey's message #7 at
http://macscripter.net/viewtopic.php?pid=100407
*)
tell application BBEdit
repeat
set dialogResult to (display dialog Enter a starting number: default
answer )
try
set startNumber to (text returned of dialogResult) as number
if (class of startNumber is integer) then exit repeat
end try
display dialog The starting number needs to be a valid integer!
buttons {Enter again, Cancel} default button 1
end repeat
set tab width of window 1 of text document 1 to startNumber
end tell
--CODE ENDS
On Jul 27, 1:40 pm, Watts Martin lay...@gmail.com wrote:
Bruce Van Allen wrote:
On 2011-07-26, Watts Martin wrote:
As near as I can tell, there's no way to adjust the tab width for a
document at *all* -- you can only change the editor default and the
per-language setting. I'm surprised, thinking about it, that tab width
isn't adjustable via the per-document Text Options. (And a little
surprised those aren't saved with documents.)
What? Those things work over here (BBEdit 10, OS X 10.7, and worked for
years).
I use this applescript saved in scripts folder, with Control-Tab set as
keyboard command:
That will certainly work; thank you.
I suppose to be precise I should have said there appeared to be no UI
control to adjust the tab width on a document-level basis. It's great
that BBEdit has the scripting support that it does, but I'm also bemused
at times by how often scripting seems to be the *only* way to do
something that seems relatively trivial, like set tab widths for the
current document. :)
In any case, this is reinforcing my earlier thought that there really
needs to be a BBEdit Tips Tricks wiki, that allows attachments for
scripts, snippets (and now packages).
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Re: Per document tab widths
I put a script set tab widths via a dialog at: http://www.mediafire.com/?ndchk0imd9u9o -- Steve On Jul 27, 12:11 pm, Rod Buchanan rod_li...@kdsi.net wrote: On Jul 26, 2011, at 8:23 PM, Watts Martin wrote: Kendall Conrad wrote: I don't have BBEdit 10, but for 9, you go to Languages, then Options to get to those settings. Yep, there's an equivalent in BBEdit 10 (it's shuffled a bit), but that's not actually going to help with my use case: I need some HTML files to have tab width 4 and some to have tab width 2. I was hoping there was a way to set that for a *document,* not a language type, and have that setting be sticky (saved in the document's resource fork, or whatever). As near as I can tell, there's no way to adjust the tab width for a document at *all* -- you can only change the editor default and the per-language setting. I'm surprised, thinking about it, that tab width isn't adjustable via the per-document Text Options. (And a little surprised those aren't saved with documents.) Look at View - Text Display - Show Fonts. -- Rod -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: Per document tab widths
My problem is the opposite, sort of. After upgrading to Lion, new text is detabbed, but I want it tabbed. I've looked in every preference, but can't find it. Every time I hit tab, I get three spaces. Can anyone help? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: Per document tab widths
On 2011-07-26, Watts Martin wrote: As near as I can tell, there's no way to adjust the tab width for a document at *all* -- you can only change the editor default and the per-language setting. I'm surprised, thinking about it, that tab width isn't adjustable via the per-document Text Options. (And a little surprised those aren't saved with documents.) What? Those things work over here (BBEdit 10, OS X 10.7, and worked for years). I use this applescript saved in scripts folder, with Control-Tab set as keyboard command: tell application BBEdit set tabW to tab width of text window 1 if tabW 64 then set tabW to 4 else set tabW to tabW + 12 end if set tab width of text window 1 to tabW end tell This allows cycling through increasingly wider tab separations, per document. Adjust your increment as desired (that's the '+ 12'), as well as the maximum (64 here) before it reverts to minimum. Tab width is sticky, so a file keeps the last width I set. HTH. - Bruce _bruce__van_allen__santa_cruz_ca_ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: Per document tab widths
At 10:40 -0700 7/27/11, Watts Martin wrote: Bruce Van Allen wrote, and I snipped: I suppose to be precise I should have said there appeared to be no UI control to adjust the tab width on a document-level basis. Just in case anyone at Bare Bones cares: While you're making tab width adjustable on a per file basis it would really be great if you could arrange for tab stops as in a real typewriter. I am continually frustrated with columnar data that demands a wide column on the left side - full names for example - followed by a couple of small width columns like date and $. Multiple tab characters cannot be used because the final destination of the file won't accept them. The alternative is a full fledged spreadsheet but I really don't need that just to look at, yeah and modify, the data. -- -- From the U S of A, the only socialist country that refuses to admit it. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: Per document tab widths
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 12:04:32PM -0600, Doug McNutt wrote: Just in case anyone at Bare Bones cares: While you're making tab width adjustable on a per file basis it would really be great if you could arrange for tab stops as in a real typewriter. I am continually frustrated with columnar data that demands a wide column on the left side - full names for example - followed by a couple of small width columns like date and $. Multiple tab characters cannot be used because the final destination of the file won't accept them. The alternative is a full fledged spreadsheet but I really don't need that just to look at, yeah and modify, the data. Sounds as if you are asking to further blur the difference between a text editor and a word processor. Am not sure if Nisus still behaves the way it originally did, but it was a word processor that left the data fork as pure text while putting all formatting metadata in the resource fork. Originators of QUED/M, which for me was replaced by BBEdit. Looks like QUED/M is gone: http://www.nisus.com/ -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: Per document tab widths
At 13:13 -0500 7/27/11, David Kelly wrote: On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 12:04:32PM -0600, Doug McNutt wrote: Just in case anyone at Bare Bones cares: While you're making tab width adjustable on a per file basis it would really be great if you could arrange for tab stops as in a real typewriter. I am continually frustrated with columnar data that demands a wide column on the left side - full names for example - followed by a couple of small width columns like date and $. Multiple tab characters cannot be used because the final destination of the file won't accept them. The alternative is a full fledged spreadsheet but I really don't need that just to look at, yeah and modify, the data. Sounds as if you are asking to further blur the difference between a text editor and a word processor. Am not sure if Nisus still behaves the way it originally did, but it was a word processor that left the data fork as pure text while putting all formatting metadata in the resource fork. Originators of QUED/M, which for me was replaced by BBEdit. I still use Nisus 5 or so on this OS 9 box. As of OS 10 Nisus became just another markup based word processor. Really good for right to left Arabic with included left to right Arabic numbers.. I even have a preset resource file into which I can redirect a data fork that is an assembly language listing for a 68HC11 microprocessor. Variable width tabs are really nice for that. I can even word wrap comments into new lines that begin at the rightmost tab. I'd really rather use BBEdit on Apple's OS 10. (Which sort of keeps this on topic.) -- Fe++ // \ Fe++ Fe++ | || Fe++ Fe++ \\/ Fe++ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: Per document tab widths
David Kelly wrote: In my old age I've come to prefer hard spaces so that nobody comes along and messes up my formatting just because they used a different tab value. This is what eventually converted me to the spaces side of the spaces vs. tabs argument. :) (That, and Python coding -- while I know tabs are allowed, they seem to be strongly frowned on in terms of coding style, probably because messing up formatting due to differing tab values will actually break Python code, not just make it look ugly!) -- Watts Martin lay...@gmail.com smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Per document tab widths
On Jul 26, 2011, at 8:23 PM, Watts Martin wrote: Kendall Conrad wrote: I don't have BBEdit 10, but for 9, you go to Languages, then Options to get to those settings. Yep, there's an equivalent in BBEdit 10 (it's shuffled a bit), but that's not actually going to help with my use case: I need some HTML files to have tab width 4 and some to have tab width 2. I was hoping there was a way to set that for a *document,* not a language type, and have that setting be sticky (saved in the document's resource fork, or whatever). As near as I can tell, there's no way to adjust the tab width for a document at *all* -- you can only change the editor default and the per-language setting. I'm surprised, thinking about it, that tab width isn't adjustable via the per-document Text Options. (And a little surprised those aren't saved with documents.) Look at View - Text Display - Show Fonts. -- Rod -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: Per document tab widths
On Jul 26, 2011, at 8:23 PM, Watts Martin wrote: Kendall Conrad wrote: I don't have BBEdit 10, but for 9, you go to Languages, then Options to get to those settings. Yep, there's an equivalent in BBEdit 10 (it's shuffled a bit), but that's not actually going to help with my use case: I need some HTML files to have tab width 4 and some to have tab width 2. I was hoping there was a way to set that for a *document,* not a language type, and have that setting be sticky (saved in the document's resource fork, or whatever). As near as I can tell, there's no way to adjust the tab width for a document at *all* -- you can only change the editor default and the per-language setting. I'm surprised, thinking about it, that tab width isn't adjustable via the per-document Text Options. (And a little surprised those aren't saved with documents.) Look at View - Text Display - Show Fonts. -- Rod -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Per document tab widths
One of my clients has decided that PHP documents should use 4-space tabs, while PHP *templates* should use 2-space tabs. Is there a way to set (ideally persistently) tab width on a per-document basis in BBEdit 10 other than using the Emacs variable block? (I'd thought that was in either Text Options or Document Options in BBEdit 9, although a quick check of TextWrangler suggests that's my imagination.) -- Watts Martin lay...@gmail.com smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Per document tab widths
I don't have BBEdit 10, but for 9, you go to Languages, then Options to get to those settings. -Kendall On Jul 26, 4:34 pm, Watts Martin lay...@gmail.com wrote: One of my clients has decided that PHP documents should use 4-space tabs, while PHP *templates* should use 2-space tabs. Is there a way to set (ideally persistently) tab width on a per-document basis in BBEdit 10 other than using the Emacs variable block? (I'd thought that was in either Text Options or Document Options in BBEdit 9, although a quick check of TextWrangler suggests that's my imagination.) -- Watts Martin lay...@gmail.com smime.p7s 5KViewDownload -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: Per document tab widths
Kendall Conrad wrote: I don't have BBEdit 10, but for 9, you go to Languages, then Options to get to those settings. Yep, there's an equivalent in BBEdit 10 (it's shuffled a bit), but that's not actually going to help with my use case: I need some HTML files to have tab width 4 and some to have tab width 2. I was hoping there was a way to set that for a *document,* not a language type, and have that setting be sticky (saved in the document's resource fork, or whatever). As near as I can tell, there's no way to adjust the tab width for a document at *all* -- you can only change the editor default and the per-language setting. I'm surprised, thinking about it, that tab width isn't adjustable via the per-document Text Options. (And a little surprised those aren't saved with documents.) -- Watts Martin lay...@gmail.com smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Per document tab widths
I don't know anything about PHP, but if documents and templates have different file extensions, you could write an attachment script to set tab width to the number appropriate to the extension. Write the script to run when a document is opened or saved. See the Manual section on Using Attachment Scripts. Steve On Jul 26, 9:23 pm, Watts Martin lay...@gmail.com wrote: Kendall Conrad wrote: I don't have BBEdit 10, but for 9, you go to Languages, then Options to get to those settings. Yep, there's an equivalent in BBEdit 10 (it's shuffled a bit), but that's not actually going to help with my use case: I need some HTML files to have tab width 4 and some to have tab width 2. I was hoping there was a way to set that for a *document,* not a language type, and have that setting be sticky (saved in the document's resource fork, or whatever). As near as I can tell, there's no way to adjust the tab width for a document at *all* -- you can only change the editor default and the per-language setting. I'm surprised, thinking about it, that tab width isn't adjustable via the per-document Text Options. (And a little surprised those aren't saved with documents.) -- Watts Martin lay...@gmail.com smime.p7s 5KViewDownload -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: Per document tab widths
I don't know anything about PHP, but if the documents and templates have different file extensions, you could write an attachment script to set tab width to the number appropriate to the extension. Write the script to run when a document is opened or saved. See the Manual section on Using Attachment Scripts. Steve On Jul 26, 9:23 pm, Watts Martin lay...@gmail.com wrote: Kendall Conrad wrote: I don't have BBEdit 10, but for 9, you go to Languages, then Options to get to those settings. Yep, there's an equivalent in BBEdit 10 (it's shuffled a bit), but that's not actually going to help with my use case: I need some HTML files to have tab width 4 and some to have tab width 2. I was hoping there was a way to set that for a *document,* not a language type, and have that setting be sticky (saved in the document's resource fork, or whatever). As near as I can tell, there's no way to adjust the tab width for a document at *all* -- you can only change the editor default and the per-language setting. I'm surprised, thinking about it, that tab width isn't adjustable via the per-document Text Options. (And a little surprised those aren't saved with documents.) -- Watts Martin lay...@gmail.com smime.p7s 5KViewDownload -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
